Most of us accept practices from our churches without inquiring into its origin. We tend to carry on with a practice because we feel it bring results, and careless if it transgress the law of the spirit of God. Many wrong things are been done in the name of Christ but those who follow the footsteps of Christ should carefully decipher them.

Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter. 22 On judgment day many will say to me, ‘Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.' 23 But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws.’

The Cross is a symbol of curse.
Deuteronomy 21:22-23
22 “If someone has committed a crime worthy of death and is executed and hung on a tree, 23 the body must not remain hanging from the tree overnight. You must bury the body that same day, for anyone who is hung is cursed in the sight of God. In this way, you will prevent the defilement of the land the Lord your God is giving you as your special possession.

Galatians 3:13
13 But Christ has rescued us from the curse pronounced by the law. When he was hung on the cross, he took upon himself the curse for our wrongdoing. For it is written in the Scriptures, Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree.”

The Cross is not something good in the sight of God, it is meant for those to be put to death, and those who are executed on it are cursed in the sight of God. To avoid defiling the land, such a person must be buried the same day and must not be left hanging on it overnight.[/color=#006600]

This is the same with the case of Christ. Therefore it is an affront to God and a systematic disobedience to His commandment to always depict Christ His son as always accursed (ie always hanging on the Cross), even when he is no longer hanging on a cross(tree) in heaven.

Christ bore our curse once and for all and it all ended that day when he was brought down and buried, Jn 19:31.

The Catholics and other churches who keep, kneel and bow to a cursed image (cross) made of wood and stone should know by now why God strongly condemn the use of images to worship Him. Such a thing is pure idol worship. The Father is pleased with those who worship Him spirit and in truth, Jn 4:22-24.

You don't need to wait for Rome or your G.O to tell you to follow the truth before you do so. Our loyalty is to God, not man.

[color=#006600]UPDATED

This goes a long way to show that the Catholics are really confused and are just helpless to accept the truth. They have been tested and trusted in this regard. They presented their submission/defense to this topic with these bible verses but could not answer the question I asked them concerning their submission. Chai! its really a pity:

"Then he called the crowd to him along with his disciples and said: "Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me." Lk. 9:23.

May I never boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world Gal.6:14

1cor1:18-19......18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19For it is written:

“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise;
the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.”
Dude to people like you(JW and co)the Cross is FOOLISHNESS but,to the Crucified once it's the Power of GOD.
Your wisdom and intelligence will only get you as far as your ceiling.
The Truth is that you guys can't comprehend the Power of God. not now or ever.


Then I asked them these questions they should have asked themselves long ago before engaging in Idol worship.
1. So are our saying that Jesus was urging his disciples to carve wooden cross for themselves and follow him?

2. Are you also saying that Paul was boasting over a piece of wooden cross?

3. What is the message of the cross? Is the message about how to design, kneel and bow before a man-made cross?

Ex 20:4
"You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below." This is Gods commandment for those who enjoy creating and embracing idol.

If the cross is no good ... Why should God die on the cross

The 1st character of the demonic is staurophobia(fear of the Holy Cross).so op we know who you are.

The poster above me needs thorough flogging I wonder why you are lazy to follow the roman doctrine without bothering to follow your own instinct

kennedymonk:
If the cross is no good ... Why should God die on the cross

The Son of God died on the Cross. God cannot die(search for this and you will find it).

The Cross is no good because it is meant for people who are convicted to die for their wrong doings. Those who hang on it are accursed by God.

You and I cannot hang there to die and atone for our sins, that is why christ died for our sake and he became accursed.

That a pastor went to prison does not make prison a good place to go.

kennedymonk:
If the cross is no good ... Why should God die on the cross

Did God or Jesus die?
By the way did he die on the cross?

Lumiere91:
The 1st character of the demonic is staurophobia(fear of the Holy Cross).so op we know who you are.

Are you a demon to know what they really fear. Don't you know that one meeting they do on ones ignorance, they can easily deceive that one? Have you ever pretended to be sick when you are not?

You are still a learner because the devil can do anything to keep deceiving people. You have the scripture up there, there is where you find the truth.

saintgoogle:

Yea. Sign of the curse (cross) should be avoided too.

The Cross Governs everything related to the new Life and the house of God.
Without the Cross God will stil be an imaginary being,without it there's no new life.christainity derives it power from the Cross.
Show me a cursed/condemned man and I will show you an uncrucified fool.

ichuka:
The Cross Governs everything related to the new Life and the house of God.
Without the Cross God will stil be an imaginary being,without it there's no new life.christainity derives it power from the Cross.
Show me a cursed/condemned man and I will show you an uncrucified fool.

Please which Bible portions are you quoting?

ichuka:
The Cross Governs everything related to the new Life and the house of God.
Without the Cross God will stil be an imaginary being,without it there's no new life.christainity derives it power from the Cross.
Show me a cursed/condemned man and I will show you an uncrucified fool.

Are you quoting from the 'Character of the demonic' like Lumiere91? Please we are Christians, we use BIBLE and we don't use demonic scriptures as backup.

goodnews201668:


Please which Bible portions are you quoting?

I wonder o.

The write up is on point. Jesus was not the first to be mailed to the cross. Crucifixion was a punishment meted on hardened criminal, way long before Jesus was born.

It amazes when people do this, in the name of the father, of the son and the holt spirit as a representation of the holy trinity by a cross on the body.

Zombies also go to Church. Whatever they are told they believe, without a through search and understanding of the message

Wow! Now the devil wants to keep me away from the cross. The very thing that Jesus specifically instructed us to embrace as a sign of our discipleship. He says the cross is not something good in the sight of God, but Jesus said "Then he called the crowd to him along with his disciples and said: "Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me." Lk. 9:23.
Sorry sir I go with scripture and proclaim with St.Paul, all Catholics and indeed every faithful Christian, May I never boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world Gal.6:14

goodnews201668:


Did God or Jesus die?
By the way did he die on the cross?

Is Jesus God? Is the Holy Spirit God ? Is the father God?

What symbol should Christians use then?

Boomark:


The Son of God died on the Cross. God cannot die(search for this and you will find it).

The Cross is no good because it is meant for people who are convicted to die for their wrong doings. Those who hang on it are accursed by God.

You and I cannot hang there to die and atone for our sins, that is why christ died for our sake and he became accursed.

That a pastor went to prison does not make prison a good place to go.

John 10:30 ( if Jesus is God)


Acts of the apostles 10:14and 15 talks about an unclean meal Peter would rather not eat...

I understand that God interacted with many unclean things (the leapers and sinners) but He kept on giving us different meaning to all these.... The cross is no different, it used to be our shame , Christ has turned it into our victory
And about the prison , who says it is a bad place, it is as good as a school , a Centre of reformation, a bad pastor like famous pastor king and a good pastor like St Paul have been to prison all for the glory of God...

goodnews201668:


Did God or Jesus die?
By the way did he die on the cross?

"If you deny the trinity you lose your soul, if your try to explain the trinity you shall lose your mind"- St. Augustin of hippo... I shouldn't explain this mystery

Jesus died on the cross

I don't know what you stand to gain with all this your lies. Jehovah's Witnesses publish
pictures in which they show Jesus' two
hands together straight above his head,
with one long nail driven first through one
hand and then through the other hand,
which is underneath it. Yet this use of one
nail is contradicted by the words of
Scripture. In John 20:25 we read the
words of the Apostle Thomas: "Unless I
see the nail marks in his hands and put my
finger where the nails were, and put my
hand into his side, I will not believe it."
Thomas is only talking about Jesus' hands,
not about His feet. The word 'nails' and
the verb 'were' are both unambiguously
plural. In fact, in the original Greek the
word 'nails' is in the plural twice , ie. there
were two nails, one in each hand, because
the hands were not placed one on top of
each other above Christ's head, as the
Jehovah's Witnesses now claim, but
stretched out, one on each side of him,
with one nail through each hand or wrist,
not on a vertical stake but on a cross.

Since when is Jesus no longer god? So your God is cursed? Wonders.

kennedymonk:
John 10:30 ( if Jesus is God)


Acts of the apostles 10:14and 15 talks about an unclean meal Peter would rather not eat...

I understand that God interacted with many unclean things (the leapers and sinners) but He kept on giving us different meaning to all these.... The cross is no different, it used to be our shame , Christ has turned it into our victory
And about the prison , who says it is a bad place, it is as good as a school , a Centre of reformation, a bad pastor like famous pastor king and a good pastor like St Paul have been to prison all for the glory of God...

This my post will help you.

Jn 10:30
"I and my Father are one."

1 Corinthians 6:17
But whoever is united with the Lord is one with him in spirit.
John 17:21-22
21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you.May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 I have given them the glory that you gave me,that they may be one as we are one.
Read the bolded carefully. Oneness means unity. That is why it is true even for husband and wife. It does not mean one Yahweh, God or co-equality.
Jesus and the Father are one. We all are one just as Jesus and the Father are one. We are also one with the Lord....No lies, no twisting, no importation of co-equality, plain truth backed by the scripture.

Please share with your friends who don't know this.

In the new testament, unclean animals where made clean. This does not mean you should make their images, worship and adore them. In the new testament, the cross still remained a place for the accursed, Gal 3:13. It is even worst to make its image and adore it.

Christ is our victory, his blood, shed for the forgiveness of sin is our victory. A piece of wood is not, golgotha is not, the soldiers spare is not, their horse whip is not. The cross is not unique to christ. Many evil men died on the cross before and after Christ. Look for scriptures to back your claims. Painting it good with your own thinking will not help.

Don't worry, when they send you to kirikiri prison you will know.

Boomark:


This my post will help you.


Please share with your friends who don't know this.

In the new testament, unclean animals where made clean. This does not mean you should make their images, worship and adore them. In the new testament, the cross still remained a place for the accursed, Gal 3:13. It is even worst to make its image and adore it.

Christ is our victory, his blood, shed for the forgiveness of sin is our victory. A piece of wood is not, golgotha is not, the soldiers spare is not, their horse whip is not. The cross is not unique to christ. Many evil men died on the cross before and after Christ. Look for scriptures to back your claims. Painting it good with your own thinking will not help.

Don't worry, when they send you to kirikiri prison you will know.

.

kennedymonk:
"If you deny the trinity you lose your soul, if your try to explain the trinity you shall lose your mind"- St. Augustin of hippo... I shouldn't explain this mystery

Jesus died on the cross

Because you cannot explain something cannot be made true. You get the feeling one gets when he is trying so hard to really defend a lie....brain gay. Check my profile and read about the simple truth.

freecocoa:
Since when is Jesus no longer god? So your God is cursed? Wonders.

Cherrycocoa, what is it that you don't understand?

Jesus is a God, men are Gods. But the God of all, the God of our Lord Jesus Christ (Jn 20:17) cannot die.

Yes. He was cursed because of us. See for yourself.
Gal 3:13
But Christ has rescued us from the curse pronounced by the law. When he was hung on the cross, he took upon himself the curse for our wrongdoing. For it is written in the Scriptures, "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree."

Boomark:


Because you cannot explain something cannot be made true. You get the feeling one gets when he is trying so hard to really defend a lie....brain gay. Check my profile and read about the simple truth.

you are right, I can't explain God , no one can, though many will make a fool of themselves trying to explain whom God is, but that is why He is God, a mystery, Oh that he reveals Him self to you else ...

I don't need to check your profile for "simple truths" ... I have all I need... Thanks

Lumiere91:
The 1st character of the demonic is staurophobia(fear of the Holy Cross).so op we know who you are.

you checkmated the motherfücker

goodnews201668:


Please which Bible portions are you quoting?

1cor1:18-19......18For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19For it is written:

“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise;
the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.”
Dude to people like you(JW and co)the Cross is FOOLISHNESS but,to the Crucified once it's the Power of GOD.
Your wisdom and intelligence will only get you as far as your ceiling.
The Truth is that you guys can't comprehend the Power of God.not now or ever.

kennedymonk:
"If you deny the trinity you lose your soul, if your try to explain the trinity you shall lose your mind"- St. Augustin of hippo... I shouldn't explain this mystery

Jesus died on the cross

Lol, you guys can be funny eee.
You think everyone believe in Trinity? Yet their souls are intact, does it not show they have been lying to you?
After all the explanation the Bible gave you are still saying it's a mystery, well it's actually a mystery to you. But Bro try and look into your Bible.

ichuka:

1cor1:18-19......18For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19For it is written:

“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise;
the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.”
Dude to people like you(JW and co)the Cross is FOOLISHNESS but,to the Crucified once it's the Power of GOD.
Your wisdom and intelligence will only get you as far as your ceiling.
The Truth is that you guys can't comprehend the Power of God.not now or ever.

Before I tell you what God's power is, what is cross?

kennedymonk:
Is Jesus God? Is the Holy Spirit God ? Is the father God?

Did the Bible said God or Jesus dies?

jossi994:
you checkmated the motherfücker

smiles

I will cling to my old rugged cross and exchange it someday for a crown! such a refreshing song...

Now how does one begin to forget the finished work on the cross of calvary and the propitiation for our salvation and redemption by the Saviour Jesus Christ


OP U lieeeeeeeee