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Re: The Cross: Symbol Of The Accursed Not Christianity by Syncan(m): 2:15pm On Apr 25, 2016
goodnews201668:


My brother that we preach about Christ is a different thing.
That we preach about how Christ suffered and was finally put to death on a torture stake is different from carving cross or using it in worship.
We are not the first followers of Christ, he had early disciples. Have you ever heard that the Bible said they used cross in worship or while praying.

Let me tell you one secret, maybe you never knew it.
That cross has long been in use by those who never knew the true God long before Christ came to the earth. It's a worship instrument for pegans at first.
Now Google and see how it was adopted by Christians with time.
The Bible has no record of followers of Christ ever using cross in worship, it was adopted as time goes by.


Just keep saying what you like. I just have a simple fact for you. Not long ago, some missionaries came to convert your fathers, they destroyed your father's shrines and gods, taught them Christ crucified, and the power of God was made manifest in them. These men came with the cross, the planted it on the land, they wore it on their bodies, they blessed the people with its sign, they were Christians. What are you without the cross?
Re: The Cross: Symbol Of The Accursed Not Christianity by goodnews201668: 3:29pm On Apr 25, 2016
Syncan:


I have had a fair share of religious discuss and arguments on this forum, so I am not so in need of a discuss to jump into argument with just any one, especially one who tells brazen lies. Why should I be arguing with someone who claims there was a Pope Constantine that introduced cross to Christianity. Stop spreading falsehood.

Some scholars says emperor Constantine was a Pope.
Anyways if you deny him being a Pope no wahala.
But he is revered as a saint!
My point however is that he introduced the use of cross in Christianity!
Re: The Cross: Symbol Of The Accursed Not Christianity by goodnews201668: 3:40pm On Apr 25, 2016
Syncan:


I have had a fair share of religious discuss and arguments on this forum, so I am not so in need of a discuss to jump into argument with just any one, especially one who tells brazen lies. Why should I be arguing with someone who claims there was a Pope Constantine that introduced cross to Christianity. Stop spreading falsehood.

Some scholars says Emperor Constantine was a Pope.
Anyways if you deny him being a Pope no wahala.
But he is revered as a saint!
My point however is that he introduced the use of cross in Christianity!
Re: The Cross: Symbol Of The Accursed Not Christianity by goodnews201668: 3:44pm On Apr 25, 2016
Syncan:


I have had a fair share of religious discuss and arguments on this forum, so I am not so in need of a discuss to jump into argument with just any one, especially one who tells brazen lies. Why should I be arguing with someone who claims there was a Pope Constantine that introduced cross to Christianity. Stop spreading falsehood.

Some scholars says Emperor Constantine was a Pope.
Anyways if you deny him being a Pope no wahala.
But he is revered as a saint!
My point however is that he introduced the use of cross in Christianity!
It's not about argument. It's about what's right.
Re: The Cross: Symbol Of The Accursed Not Christianity by Boomark(m): 7:24pm On Apr 25, 2016
Goshen360:


This wooden cross represent something to Christianity unlike the topic of the thread that's misleading.

What does the wooden cross represent in Christianity? Present bible proof.

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Re: The Cross: Symbol Of The Accursed Not Christianity by Boomark(m): 7:27pm On Apr 25, 2016
QuentinDay:
Right on point write up in the opening post and titled correctly for whom it may concern

Not just the wooden cross but also the Kaaba too

Kissing the cross, bowing down to the cross, bowing down to the Kaaba, touching or kissing the Kaaba
Both are symbols of worship of gods made of wood/cross and stone/Kaaba as predicted to be or as prophesied in
Deuteronomy 4:28, Deuteronomy 28:36 and Deuteronomy 28:64

Nicely titled bro. wink
Re: The Cross: Symbol Of The Accursed Not Christianity by Boomark(m): 7:39pm On Apr 25, 2016
Syncan:



All your rigmarole cannot help you. The questions you ask have no connection with the topic of discuss oga. If cross is such a bad thing, why did Jesus tell us to carry ours and follow him, why did St. Paul pray that we boast of nothing but the cross, why did he continue preaching Christ crucified even though Christ is in heaven? Yet you say it is an affront to depict that act because Christ is now in heaven, lol. Oga you fail this one, just admit it.

I see. It has always been like this. Catholics have nothing to offer as far as bible truth is concerned. I asked you which cross did he tell them carry and follow him, wooden cross? was Paul boasting over a carved wooden cross? Instead of answering, you keep repeating "carry your cross and follow me," because there is nothing to say in defense to making, bowing and kissing the cross.

Ubenedictus came and ran away when he saw it is Boomark again. grin I no boast o. wink

Meanwhile the OP has been UPDATED to reflect you guys poor defense to what you practice.

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Re: The Cross: Symbol Of The Accursed Not Christianity by goodnews201668: 8:11pm On Apr 25, 2016
Boomark:

I see. It has always been like this. Catholics have nothing to offer as far as bible truth is concerned. I asked you which cross did he tell them carry and follow him, wooden cross? was Paul boasting over a carved wooden cross? Instead of answering, you keep repeating "carry your cross and follow me," because there is nothing to say in defense to making, bowing and kissing the cross.

Ubenedictus came and ran away when he saw it is Boomark again. grin I no boast o. wink

Meanwhile the OP has been UPDATED to reflect you guys poor defense to what you practice.

grin grin grin cheesy
Re: The Cross: Symbol Of The Accursed Not Christianity by Ubenedictus(m): 8:27pm On Apr 25, 2016
Syncan:


I have had a fair share of religious discuss and arguments on this forum, so I am not so in need of a discuss to jump into argument with just any one, especially one who tells brazen lies. Why should I be arguing with someone who claims there was a Pope Constantine that introduced cross to Christianity. Stop spreading falsehood.
Did i just read pope constantine? that is funny.
Re: The Cross: Symbol Of The Accursed Not Christianity by Boomark(m): 9:35pm On Apr 25, 2016
goodnews201668:


grin grin grin cheesy

wink cheesy

Bro if you enter history, you will create room for them to enjoy. But when you make it strictly scriptural things with your ogbonge questions, you will see them running like tomorrow no dey.

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Re: The Cross: Symbol Of The Accursed Not Christianity by goodnews201668: 9:46pm On Apr 25, 2016
Boomark:


wink cheesy

Bro if you enter history, you will create room for them to enjoy. But when you make it strictly scriptural things with your ogbonge questions, you will see them running like tomorrow no dey.

Na true my brother, but I know it's not easy to change ones beliefs.
Re: The Cross: Symbol Of The Accursed Not Christianity by Ubenedictus(m): 9:48pm On Apr 25, 2016
Boomark:

I see. It has always been like this. Catholics have nothing to offer as far as bible truth is concerned. I asked you which cross did he tell them carry and follow him, wooden cross? was Paul boasting over a carved wooden cross? Instead of answering, you keep repeating "carry your cross and follow me," because there is nothing to say in defense to making, bowing and kissing the cross.

Ubenedictus came and ran away when he saw it is Boomark again. grin I no boast o. wink

Meanwhile the OP has been UPDATED to reflect you guys poor defense to what you practice.
U just couldnt help mentioning me could u?
i have been in NL long enough to know a useless thread, heck i have even made d mistake of debating on such thread. i will not do it again.
the concept of d cross was revolutionized by Jesus, the symbol of death, despair, sin and curse is now d symbol of life, hope, victory and the power of God.
that is my contribution, accept it or nt, just keep off my mention
Re: The Cross: Symbol Of The Accursed Not Christianity by goodnews201668: 10:19pm On Apr 25, 2016
Ubenedictus:
U just couldnt help mentioning me could u?
i have been in NL long enough to know a useless thread, heck i have even made d mistake of debating on such thread. i will not do it again.
the concept of d cross was revolutionized by Jesus, the symbol of death, despair, sin and curse is now d symbol of life, hope, victory and the power of God.
that is my contribution, accept it or nt, just keep off my mention

Revolutionized?
When it's clear that Christ was impaled not on cross but a pale or stake and cross was introduced by pegans. Na waoo.
Re: The Cross: Symbol Of The Accursed Not Christianity by Ubenedictus(m): 10:42pm On Apr 25, 2016
goodnews201668:


Revolutionized?
When it's clear that Christ was impaled not on cross but a pale or stake and cross was introduced by pegans. Na waoo.
HEHEHE, i'll leave u with the jehovah witnes judge rutherford.
“The cross of Christ is the greatest pivotal truth of the divine arrangement, from which radiate the hopes of men.”
Joseph Rutherford. The Harp of God (Brooklyn, NY: Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, 1921) 141.
Re: The Cross: Symbol Of The Accursed Not Christianity by ichuka(m): 10:47pm On Apr 25, 2016
goodnews201668:


I was thinking you are going to explain the meaning of cross, I asked the question for you to explain it.

It might interest you to know that cross is a Latin word (Cruz).

The Bible was not written in Latin.
Where you have cross in most bibles today in the Greek language which is one of the original language the Bible was written you'll rather see (stauros) which means an upright stake or straight pole.
The Jews used to hang a cursed person or criminal on a tree or stake.
Galatians 3:13, Acts 5:30 and 10:39 says Jesus Christ was hunged on a tree as a cursed person.
Deuteronomy 21:22,23 shows the Jews are used to hanging people on a stake long before Christ came.

So starous Greek meaning of doesn't mean cross it rather means a torture stake or a pole where people are hanged to make them die agonizing death.

While Cruz is a Latin word that when translated into English means cross and it's pegan nations who knew nothing about the true God that were using it in worship long before Christ came. Google and see how and when it became part of items used as worship in the church.

However God actually warns us against using any image in our worship to him, we should rather worship him in spirit and truth.
Using images in worship is idolatary!! God condemned it.
You are in ERROR!!!
Not Knowing the Scripture or the The Power of God.
Mart:22:29/Mark12:24
The scriptures and the Power of God are two different things and you guys knowledge of both are futile.(Una no know Jack)
Without the Power of God the knowledge of the scripture can never be known.
Am doing all this because of the viewers and not your kind(JW and co)
You reject Jesus as God,you reject the Cross and still claim you are Christains?
You guys are in the same league with occultic men PERIOD!!!!
Re: The Cross: Symbol Of The Accursed Not Christianity by goodnews201668: 10:50pm On Apr 25, 2016
ichuka:

You are in ERROR!!!
Not Knowing the Scripture or the The Power of God.
Mart:22:29/Mark12:24
The scriptures and the Power of God are two different things and you guys knowledge of both are futile.(Una no know Jack)
Without the Power of God the knowledge of the scripture can never be known.
Am doing all this because of the viewers and not your kind(JW and co)
You reject Jesus as God,you reject the Cross and still claim you are Christains?
You guys are in the same league with occultic men PERIOD!!!!

grin grin
Rejected cross? Just show me one scripture that shows the early Christians used cross in worship.
Re: The Cross: Symbol Of The Accursed Not Christianity by goodnews201668: 10:54pm On Apr 25, 2016
Ubenedictus:
HEHEHE, i'll leave u with the jehovah witnes judge rutherford.
“The cross of Christ is the greatest pivotal truth of the divine arrangement, from which radiate the hopes of men.”
Joseph Rutherford. The Harp of God (Brooklyn, NY: Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, 1921) 141.

Yes Jehovah's witnesses used cross in past and realized it's wrong and adjusted likewise many other religious group, it takes courage to go against the crowd!
Re: The Cross: Symbol Of The Accursed Not Christianity by ichuka(m): 11:16pm On Apr 25, 2016
goodnews201668:


grin grin
Rejected cross? Just show me one scripture that shows the early Christians used cross in worship.
Who said anything of cross worshiping?
Dude accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and not ur imaginary Jehovah.then can you See and understand the scriptures.
Even other occultic groups knows who they are serving but you guys don't even know your god.
Re: The Cross: Symbol Of The Accursed Not Christianity by goodnews201668: 11:26pm On Apr 25, 2016
ichuka:

Who said anything of cross worshiping?
Dude accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and not ur imaginary Jehovah.then can you See and understand the scriptures.
Even other occultic groups knows who they are serving but you guys don't even know your god.

Accepting Jesus is not by mouth, it also includes knowing the truth about him and how to worship him!
Re: The Cross: Symbol Of The Accursed Not Christianity by Syncan(m): 6:34am On Apr 26, 2016
goodnews201668:


Some scholars says emperor Constantine was a Pope.
Anyways if you deny him being a Pope no wahala.
But he is revered as a saint!
My point however is that he introduced the use of cross in Christianity!

Stop reading junks, constantine was an emperor, he was not a Pope. Before the cross, Christians used the fish as their symbol, do you know that too?

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Re: The Cross: Symbol Of The Accursed Not Christianity by Syncan(m): 6:41am On Apr 26, 2016
Boomark:

I see. It has always been like this. Catholics have nothing to offer as far as bible truth is concerned. I asked you which cross did he tell them carry and follow him, wooden cross? was Paul boasting over a carved wooden cross? Instead of answering, you keep repeating "carry your cross and follow me," because there is nothing to say in defense to making, bowing and kissing the cross.

Ubenedictus came and ran away when he saw it is Boomark again. grin I no boast o. wink

Meanwhile the OP has been UPDATED to reflect you guys poor defense to what you practice.

You start a thread with a post, I comment based on your post, you see your error and rush to "update" your post, just to make my comment look out of place. Tell me why I should take you seriously. Smh. May I boast of nothing else but the cross. Gal.6:14.
Re: The Cross: Symbol Of The Accursed Not Christianity by goodnews201668: 6:42am On Apr 26, 2016
Syncan:


Stop reading junks, constantine was an emperor, he was not a Pope. Before the cross, Christians used the fish as their symbol, do you know that too?

Interesting, the early Christians? Well weather fish or meat it's not right, we should follow the patterns set by the early Christians closely!
Re: The Cross: Symbol Of The Accursed Not Christianity by Syncan(m): 6:44am On Apr 26, 2016
Ubenedictus:
Did i just read pope constantine? that is funny.

You have seen it in black and white, "Awake pamphlet christians".
Re: The Cross: Symbol Of The Accursed Not Christianity by Syncan(m): 6:52am On Apr 26, 2016
goodnews201668:


Interesting, the early Christians? Well weather fish or meat it's not right, we should follow the patterns set by the early Christians closely!


This is why you should study, study about the religion you profess, stop arguing in ignorance, now a sign even the apostles used is what you say is not right. I told you before, when the missionaries came to your fathers, they came with the cross, they destroyed your father's gods and shrines, they planted the cross on forbidden lands and claimed them for Christ, they blessed the people with the sign of the cross, they wore the cross on their bodies, they were true Christians, spreading the goodnews to all nations, and the Most High wrought many miracles through them. You without the cross how far?
Re: The Cross: Symbol Of The Accursed Not Christianity by Syncan(m): 6:55am On Apr 26, 2016
Ubenedictus:
HEHEHE, i'll leave u with the jehovah witnes judge rutherford.
“The cross of Christ is the greatest pivotal truth of the divine arrangement, from which radiate the hopes of men.”
Joseph Rutherford. The Harp of God (Brooklyn, NY: Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, 1921) 141.

Ah, even their oga at the top told them so, why these ones de revolt na?
Re: The Cross: Symbol Of The Accursed Not Christianity by Syncan(m): 7:02am On Apr 26, 2016
goodnews201668:


Yes Jehovah's witnesses used cross in past and realized it's wrong and adjusted likewise many other religious group, it takes courage to go against the crowd!

Oh, jehova witness was in error when they were using it, I see. So how are you now sure you are right this time? Not to worry, na here I de, it will soon change again, your truth changes with time.

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Re: The Cross: Symbol Of The Accursed Not Christianity by goodnews201668: 7:14am On Apr 26, 2016
Syncan:



This is why you should study, study about the religion you profess, stop arguing in ignorance, now a sign even the apostles used is what you say is not right. I told you before, when the missionaries came to your fathers, they came with the cross, they destroyed your father's gods and shrines, they planted the cross on forbidden lands and claimed them for Christ, they blessed the people with the sign of the cross, they wore the cross on their bodies, they were true Christians, spreading the goodnews to all nations, and the Most High wrought many miracles through them. You without the cross how far?

Please my question is did the early Christians used it?
Re: The Cross: Symbol Of The Accursed Not Christianity by goodnews201668: 7:17am On Apr 26, 2016
Syncan:


Oh, jehova witness was in error when they were using it, I see. So how are you now sure you are right this time? Not to worry, na here I de, it will soon change again, your truth changes with time.

Justify the use of cross with the Bible, that's my own!
Re: The Cross: Symbol Of The Accursed Not Christianity by Syncan(m): 7:18am On Apr 26, 2016
goodnews201668:


Please my question is did the early Christians used it?

Of what use is the answer to you? When I told you something the early Christians used, you said they were wrong, so why do you now want to know this, since you are right and they were wrong.
Re: The Cross: Symbol Of The Accursed Not Christianity by Syncan(m): 7:30am On Apr 26, 2016
goodnews201668:


Justify the use of cross with the Bible, that's my own!

The message of the bible is the messasge of the cross. May I not boast in anything else except the cross. Gal.6:14. I am not ashamed like you are to show the cross to the world, on it I was redeemed.
Re: The Cross: Symbol Of The Accursed Not Christianity by goodnews201668: 7:30am On Apr 26, 2016
Syncan:


Of what use is the answer to you? When I told you something the early Christians used, you said they were wrong, so why do you now want to know this, since you are right and they were wrong.


Did the followers of Jesus use cross or fish you mentioned?
Re: The Cross: Symbol Of The Accursed Not Christianity by goodnews201668: 7:31am On Apr 26, 2016
Syncan:


The message of the bible is the messasge of the cross. May I not boast in anything else except the cross. Gal.6:14. I am not ashamed like you are to show the cross to the world, on it I was redeemed.

Did Paul or the Galatians use cross in worship?

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