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goodnews201668:
You just made me truly realize who you, I thought as much I'll stop quoting you nor replying your post,
Evil John, hater, apostate, liar, slander, hypocrite, impostor you actually had to operate with this account and you know the reason.
What the Bible said about you is true, you fit all the descriptions.

goodnews201668:
Just wait he will come here probably by midnight and qoute you only to say trash and nonsense or repeat the same things again.
The way he talks I wonder if he's sound mentally.

brocab:
Your Quote> I was asking you, who told you that Jehovah Witnesses believes that Jesus is God?
Well no-one told me in person-but It is written in your New World Translation bible. You have describe Jehovah God as Jesus Himself, every eye will see Jehovah God coming in the clouds, Not Jesus. {Unless the writer believes Jehovah is Jesus Himself}
It is Jesus who was, who is, and who is coming, it is Jesus who has the name the Alpha and the Omega. But it shows the scholars had taken Jesus's name out of text and replaced it with Jehovah God. Meaning those scholars who wrote your bible had all agreed that Jehovah God is Jesus or He has the same qualifications as Jesus, or maybe the scholars strongly believe Jehovah God and Jesus are coming down to earth at the same time, Both carrying that same name the Almighty with all their rightful authority.
Your scholars who had written the New World Translation bible, must believe Jesus and Jehovah are one the same.
And yet when I have asked you JW's none of you seem to believe they are one the same. So my question was why is it written in your bible if you don't believe?
This shows me clearly none of you JW's really believe in your bible? And yet you all confess you stand by it. Which contradicts yourselves when this question is asked, firstly you all seem to jump from one verse to another, trying to confuse the Idea. Only because the New World Translation does not line up with the watchtower magazines, they both teach two different doctrines.
And this is how it is written in the New World Translation Jehovah witnesses bible>{Revelation 1:7-8} Which say's look He is coming in the clouds, and every eye will see Him, and those who pierce Him. {Verse 8} I am the Alpha and the Omega say's Jehovah God. the one who is, and who was, and who is coming the Almighty.
What's confusing about you JW's is none of you really understand your own bible. Nor do you understand who translated it, I believe it confuses you that much, that you are well trained you have to find ways to avoid these scriptures. Only because it doesn't line up with your watchtower magazines. And you all refuse to believe what your bibles had said? No-wonder you jump from one verse into another, you don't really believe your bibles scholars had even listened to God while rewriting the NWT bibles..

johnw74:
Waiting for me to be respectful to satans disciples,
will be waiting til you die.

johnw74:
evil jw compares Jesus to satan.

johnw74:
You are blind, even from a few posts ago, you said "I am Alpha and Omega" in rev 1:8 was the Father when it was Jesus.
phony jw lie constantly.

Ken4Christ:
You don't waste so much time for people who have made up their minds to believe their fabricated lies inspite of overwhelming evidences against them.

Up till now, no JW has been able to tell us what happened to the body of Jesus since they say he did not rise up bodily. Let's take them on this issue because this is where our Christian faith is hinged on. They can twist other topics to their own destruction

I am waiting for the answer. What happened to the body of Jesus?

Sarang:
I said it and will still say it again, Jesus and Jehovah are two distinctive individuals. Honestly even though I do not understand what you are driving at, I will try my possible best to answer your questions.
First ,Jehovah's witnesses do not believe that Jesus is Jehovah. I do not know from where you might have heard it but it really is a lie.
Here are the reasons:
Jesus has a prehumen existence and he frequently spoke of this. John 1 verse 18 said" No man has seen God at any time; the only begotten god who is at the fathers side is the one who has explained him". Note that here Jesus was referred to as a god the same way he was referred to as a god on John 1 verse 1.
That is to say Jesus has a position of a high authority and this is rightly so because he was the firstborn of all creations, an only begotten son.(read col 1:15-16,John 3:16). Maybe you have never wondered why the bible calls Jesus an only begotten son. Begotten from the English dictionary means "to born or made out of", and the bible calling Jesus a begotten son means he was born or created. But what about the ONLY? It means the only person who was created by Jehovah himself and it is only natural that he has his fathers affection especially when he listens to his fathers voice. Colossians cited above completes it as" through him all other things were made.
Countless places in the bible Jesus was noted as calling 'FATHER. No one calls a father except they have one, he certainly couldn't have made that up for he was a honest Man
I explained rev 1 verse 7 before..
Once again I want you to know that Jehovah's witnesses allover the World believe in one God JEHOVAH and his son Jesus who is called Christ.(Deu 6:4)

Sarang:
By their fruits you shall know them.
You actually who is been disrespectful and calling others names do not exhibit a christian attitude.

Sarang:
By their Fruits you shall know them.
every good tree produces good fruit and every rotten tree produces rotten fruits.

Sarang:
The first verse of revelation shows that the revelation was given originally by Jehovah God and through Jesus Christ,hence the one speaking (through an angelic representative)at times is God himself and at other times Jesus christ.(Rev 22:8.
Therefore Rev 1:8 says "I am the alpha and the omega",says the Lord God,who is and who was and who is to come,the Almighty."Although the preceding verse speaks of Christ Jesus,it is clear that in verse 8 the application of the title is to"the ALMIGHTY" God.

In this regard Barnes' Notes on the New Testament 1974observes. It cannot be absolutely certain that the writer mearnt to refer to the Lord Jesus specifically...
There is no real incongruity in supposing,also,that the writer here mearnt to refer to God as such".
See also revelation Rev 21:6.

Sarang:
2cor 4:4
Among whom the god of the this system of things..

In the above text Satan is refered to as a god,and you think it's inapproriate for Jesus to be?

johnw74:
It's Jesus, but you haven't a clue:

Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
Rev 1:9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Rev 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
Rev 1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
Rev 1:12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
Rev 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.



It's all about the Son, to throw the Father in their, is to try and make it support your satanic doctrine that the Word is not the Almighty
but "a god"


the Almighty is God,
God, is God and the Word

You will never understand, the Holy Spirit is needed

satans spirit will never cut it.


How can I understand when your writings itself is incomprehensible? Please write to me in a way that I will understand.

johnw74:
You take a verse that I have posted to phony jw many times
and post it back at me duh
you couldn't be truthful if your life depended on it (and it does)

johnw74:
Your right, I'm not respectful to satans church

brocab:
{John 1:18} No-one has ever seen God at any time, but the one and only Son. Lets read {John 14:9-10} Jesus answered don't you know Me Philip, even after I have been among you for such along time? Anyone who has seen Me has seen the Father. How can you say show us the Father. Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me?
Next question does the JW's believe the Father is in Jesus' and Jesus' is in the Father {John 14:9-10} ?
But if you are finding it hard to believe the above, God's a Spirit and Jesus is flesh then two have joined together becoming one spirit one flesh-this of course wouldn't make any sense to you, only because you believe Michael became Jesus in the flesh and the father couldn't be one with Jesus, because Michael is spirit at the beginning and God's Spirit couldn't join with Michael's spirit because they are both spirits.
So of course you believe the Father and the son are two different spirits. and as we all know spirits need a body to survive, this is why you can't accept Jesus because you believe Jesus is Michael and Michael is a ministering spirit. So two spirits don't make up one.
But what your not understanding is God needed a body and that body is made of flesh and blood etc, spirits function better in bodies. So God sent His only begotten Son Jesus, to become one with Him. You believe Michael became that body, from a ministering spirit Michael became human, so of course Michael couldn't be one with His Father, because Michael was a spirit from the beginning. Michael is, Michael was, and Michael is coming back to save his people standing with the Almighty Jehovah God, both spirits standing together.
{Which of the angels did God ever say sit at My right side? Which of course God didn't create angels to be called Sons, but ministering spirits}
Some things just don't add up with your stories how people believe, the teachings sounds to far fetch, theirs no stories that leads to a good yarn, just some crack pot spread a yarn and you all believe him. No-wonder you can't answer us when we ask you so many questions. It must be a puzzle to you.

Ken4Christ:
I know the Jehovah witness cannot answer my questions about the body of Jesus. Rather, they are asking baseless questions. There are infallible proofs that Jesus resurrected bodily. Refute those proofs.

The Bible says one thing, the Jehovah witness will says another.

Tell Nairalanders what happened to the body of Jesus since you said he left his body behind. Only fools will believe your wicked lies. You can't even do that to your sons. You claim Jehovah must have dissolved the body of Jesus. Your punishment will be worse in the very hell you don't believe where your founders are already suffering torment. The demons there are waiting for you all unless you repent.

You cannot use the fact that Angels manifestation with bodies and even ate to prove your point that Jesus did not rise with his body. I don't claim to know everything but that which I know and stated very clearly in the Bible, I will say. Even the great Apostle Paul said, we know in part. I do believe Angels have bodies but they are spiritual bodies. If they don't have bodies, they cannot be seen. Only demons spirit don't have bodies. That is why they seek to posses people. The Holy Spirit also and even God himself don't have bodies. Let us not derail the issue on ground.

Jesus himself said, he is not a spirit. Are you saying Jesus doesn't know who he is. You know Jesus better than he knows himself. 'behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself. Handle me and see, FOR A SPIRIT HATH NOT FLESH AND BONES as you have seen me.' Luke 24:39.

Jesus also said, 'Destroy this temple and in 3 days I will raise it.' John 2:19. The Jews responded, 'Fourth and six years was this temple in building and will thou rear it up in 3 days? The writer John remarked, ' But he spake of the temple of his body ' John 2:21. This verse clearly reveals that Jesus predicted his death and bodily resurrection. And you Jehovah wickedness are telling the world Jesus did not rise bodily.

You know within your conscience that you are lying but pride will not let you change position.

Your governing body claims that they are the only true Prophets of God on earth. So, please interpret Luke 24:39 & John 2:19-21 to us. If you can't, hide yourself in shame or admit you are wrong.

Sarang:
I doubt you know the lord Jesus cos if you do,you won't even call someone evil cos Jesus hates that

Sarang:
Pheewwww. You don tire me Mr.

Sarang:
How can I understand when your writings itself is incomprehensible? Please write to me in a way that I will understand.

Sarang:
How can I understand when your writings itself is incomprehensible? Please write to me in a way that I will understand.

Sarang:
Haha.. you are funny.
I don't have anything to say to you.

Ha Ha ha Any-one would think even the JW's would know these verses. But you obversely don't.

Sarang:
Spirit needs a body to survive? Hahaha! this is the first time am hearing this.

Like ghosts you mean,in movies?lol

Jesus said the above statement to philip,you are right but you are also wrong,in the way you presented the meaning.
Jesus simply means I represent My father.

You've never witnessed a situation whereby the president was unable to attend an occasion and thus sent someone to represent them?
Of course in this case it's different. but yes,Jesus represented Jehovah in that he acts like him,speaks for him and completely showed the world to him.

Even Jesus said so himself that "I do not speak of my accord but of the one who sent me."
Jesus acknowledged the fact that he was sent.
Jesus was only a messenger and it is only reasonable that the sender is greater than the messenger

I do not understand what you mean but the idea of trinity is not biblical at all,it stemed from the Babylonian worship and adopted into christiandom.
There is nothing like in the same body.
If you believe in Jesus,you also believed in Jehovah..why?
Cos Jesus represented Jehovah.

We have reasons to believe that Micheal was Jesus heavenly name before he came to earth and aftet he returned,so please you can address him as Jesus so that other people will not be confused.

There was no other angel that Jehovah asked to sit at his right hand except Jesus because there was no other angel that died for our redeemtion except Jesus.
Do you know what it means to die for another person? I bet you wouldn't even dare but Jesus did and for that he was rewarded,yes he sat at his Father's right hand.

I will ask you this question logically speaking,can you sit with someone and be that person?
And yes we are always here to answer your questions from the bible.

Feel free to drop any

Sarang:
Spirit needs a body to survive? Hahaha! this is the first time am hearing this.

Like ghosts you mean,in movies?lol

Jesus said the above statement to philip,you are right but you are also wrong,in the way you presented the meaning.
Jesus simply means I represent My father.

You've never witnessed a situation whereby the president was unable to attend an occasion and thus sent someone to represent them?
Of course in this case it's different. but yes,Jesus represented Jehovah in that he acts like him,speaks for him and completely showed the world to him.

Even Jesus said so himself that "I do not speak of my accord but of the one who sent me."
Jesus acknowledged the fact that he was sent.
Jesus was only a messenger and it is only reasonable that the sender is greater than the messenger

I do not understand what you mean but the idea of trinity is not biblical at all,it stemed from the Babylonian worship and adopted into christiandom.
There is nothing like in the same body.
If you believe in Jesus,you also believed in Jehovah..why?
Cos Jesus represented Jehovah.

We have reasons to believe that Micheal was Jesus heavenly name before he came to earth and aftet he returned,so please you can address him as Jesus so that other people will not be confused.

There was no other angel that Jehovah asked to sit at his right hand except Jesus because there was no other angel that died for our redeemtion except Jesus.
Do you know what it means to die for another person? I bet you wouldn't even dare but Jesus did and for that he was rewarded,yes he sat at his Father's right hand.

I will ask you this question logically speaking,can you sit with someone and be that person?
And yes we are always here to answer your questions from the bible.

Feel free to drop any

major466:
Unfortunately Jehovah's witness's core doctrine contradicts the doctrines of the bible.

Holuwakemmy16:
I heard that guys do sleep with their ladies whenever they go to their house to preach,I even v one street brother that said that he has done it once,is it 2ru?

Kennitrust:
if u don't sale your magazine, why then do they always demand for a "stipend" to be make for each magazine required?

brocab:
{John 14:9-10} Could you show me in word where Jesus told Philip he is right and he is wrong? Does this mean your theory is far above the word of God, and the lord's role was sent by God only as a messenger, and not our savour?

Anyway why can't I address Jesus as Michael, there is no time to shy away from the truth, and the truth has always reminded us the truth will set us free, the JW's don't need to hide away from the people. God the Father had given Michael a chance to become Jesus, and from a ministering spirit Michael now has every right to sit as God, calling himself "Immanuel God with us" and now sits on God's right side.
You should be proud, without holding back any truth about the JW's, God had made Michael in His own image, and gave Him His full authority to be God who created Himself to walk amongst men in the flesh, and died for His people because God so loved the world He sent His only begotten Son to save sinners, the spirit of an archangel and the Spirit of God have become one spirit. And both spirits have become one man in His own image.
Is this how your story sounds?
But the bible say's in {Hebrews 1:5} {Hebrews 1:13} Which of the angels did God ever say you are My Son, and you sit here on My right side?

prinzfavian:
Its called volountary donation, its not an imposed fee. If they were for sale u won't get any of the mag without paying. But most times when you are offered the magazine u can keep it even without giving any money so that makes it a volountary donation its not by force. Its just to support the worldwide work of the printing of those magazines around the globe.

DebbyChris:
Do you believe he died for ur sins? do u believe in heaven and hell fire? do u believe jesus is the only way to heaven? do u have the holy spirit in u? are u born again?

andyanders:
This is a capital lie. You guys sell the products and you drink alcohol like mineral. Fvck more than any other religion. You guys love to wanna want people to read your magazine, but you dear not wanna read other churches that give out their magazines to you.

You guys hate people who do not practice your doctrine but can fvck hell out of them.

I have been to your place of worship and noticed that you do not wanna pray when people ask you to pray before you discuss your religion with them.

You people ONLY believe that ONLY you guys worship the living God.

Op, just find seat and sit down.

gasgenius:
(1) In Zechariah 12:10, Jehovah speaks of the future return of Christ and says, ". . . They shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourne for him, as one mourneth for his only son . . . ." This is spoken again in Revelation 1:7, which is clearly a reference to Christ Himself, but in Zechariah 12:10 GOD said, ". . . They shall look upon me whom they have pierced . . . ." The One that they pierced was Jesus Christ! So, in Zechariah 12:10, God is saying that He is Jesus Christ.
(2) In John 1:1, John 1:14, 1 John 1:1, and in 1 John 5:7, Jesus is called "the Word," and John 1:1 says that "the Word was God."
(3) Thomas referred to Jesus as "My Lord and my God" in John 20:28, and Jesus did not see the need to correct him.
(4) Isaiah 7:14 gives us the prophecy of the Virgin Birth of Christ and states that His name would be "Immanuel." Matthew 1:23 tells us that this word means "God with us."
(5) In Isaiah 9:6, Jesus is called "Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." The Bible certainly would not say this about anyone less than God.
(6) In John 10:30, Jesus says, "I and my Father are one." Jesus is not a lesser god; He is ONE with the Father.
(7) Micah 5:2 tells us that Jesus is "from everlasting."
( In John 8:58, Jesus tells the Pharisees, "Before Abraham was, I am."
He claimed to be the "I AM" of Exodus 3:14, which is God Almighty.
(9) Jesus allowed others to worship Him (John 9:38; Matt. 14:33; and Luke 24:52), which was forbidden, unless He was God (Rev. 22:9).
(10) Jesus forgave sins (Mark 2:5), which only God can do (Mark 2:7).
(11) The Lord Jesus Christ is omnipresent (Matt. 18:20; 28:20; II Cor. 13:14; I John 5:7). We know He is God because He is capable of being everywhere at once.
(12) Jesus is omniscient (Mark 11:2-6; Matt. 12:40). He is God because He knows all things.
(13) The Lord Jesus is also omnipotent (Rev. 19:6; Matt. 28:18). He has all power.
(14) According to John 1, 1 John 1, Colossians 1, and Hebrews 1, Jesus Christ is the Creator of Genesis 1!
(15) Jesus never sinned! Romans 3:23 says that ALL HAVE SINNED and come short of the glory of God, but Jesus did not sin (2 Cor. 5:21; 1 Peter 3:18). So Jesus had to be God.

engrshakespeare:
Your looking for logic and what makes sense, Christ rose from the dead, have u seen anyone else who did? So that doesn't make sense. Do u believe the resurrection then?

brocab:
{John 14:9-10} Could you show me in word where Jesus told Philip he is right and he is wrong? Does this mean your theory is far above the word of God, and the lord's role was sent by God only as a messenger, and not our savour?

Anyway why can't I address Jesus as Michael, there is no time to shy away from the truth, and the truth has always reminded us the truth will set us free, the JW's don't need to hide away from the people. God the Father had given Michael a chance to become Jesus, and from a ministering spirit Michael now has every right to sit as God, calling himself "Immanuel God with us" and now sits on God's right side.
You should be proud, without holding back any truth about the JW's, God had made Michael in His own image, and gave Him His full authority to be God who created Himself to walk amongst men in the flesh, and died for His people because God so loved the world He sent His only begotten Son to save sinners, the spirit of an archangel and the Spirit of God have become one spirit. And both spirits have become one man in His own image.
Is this how your story sounds?
But the bible say's in {Hebrews 1:5} {Hebrews 1:13} Which of the angels did God ever say you are My Son, and you sit here on My right side?