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mikolo80:
what grass especially during harmattan. that place is a desert.

Despite the fact that more than half of Israel's land is desert, who can compete with them when it comes to practising agriculture in difficult terrains? The cattle owners should swallow their pride, ignoring religion and go and learn from the Israelis on how to convert deserts to food baskets! More than 40 percent of the Israel’s vegetables and field crops are grown in their Negev desert.

Education is important, they should seek it and stop making excuses!

blackpanda:
Unfortunately, u only restated the problem without providing any solution. You cannot ban herdsmen without providing an alternative. Who will police them round the clock to prevent them from grazing? Not to mention that they are a major source of food for the nation, and food is security.

Stop this "them-us" type of thinking. Govt doesnt see north and south. We are one nigeria. Everybody eats meat, everybody is entitled to security of his land and everybody has the right to move around the country. Or are there no southern business men in the north??

Your comment is not a solution but only serves to compound the problem

I stated very practical solutions in my first post on this thread, kindly go back to it again. And no, we are not one Nigeria, we are simply a group of distinct nations lumped together. No nation will lose its identity, traditions and properties to another without a major fight! Such fights are to the death and cannot be resolved by obnoxious federal laws.

freeze001:
Like,they have the right to be given ranches? By whom? Did Otedola tell the FG he has a right to all the properties he owns for his businesses? Or Alakija? Or Dangote? What about Innoson? Were any of these and many more entrepreneurs including the pepper seller given business properties from which they operate because 'they have a right'?! They damn well paid for it! Whether by loans to be repaid, family effort or sheer hard work and sweat! The FG did not and does not have to create a commission for the acquisition, allocation and maintenance of business premises for private persons!
So why d distinction and entitlement for cattle rearers?

First, cattle rearing is a purely private business. It is not government owned or regulated and rightly so. The rearers of cattle are businessmen going about their businesses in criminal ways. The role the government ought to play is to create laws mandating a complete stop to the roaming of cattle within a time frame, say one year. Next, the cattle rearers will be required to acquire properties through legal means as ranches for settlement of their cattle. The government should facilitate the process by making low interest loans available for procurement of necessary machinery for setting up standard ranches. It should also provide adequate training for herders in modern cattle rearing methods.

The implication is that this is a role that will be played by the Ministry of Agriculture. The FG is not expected to expend resources creating a commission for grazing reserves/routes to be managed and funded by the FG when it is not as if proceeds from cattle rearing are funnelled into the Federation account and disbursed to the stated like proceeds from crude, taxes et al are.

Grazing routes imply that the FG will by law, cut through swathes of land in every state and declare it property of cattle rearers to pass through in the course of moving livestock and feeding them. The bill makes it a crime for anyone to encroach on such areas but is curiously silent on criminalising encroachment by d herdsmen on farmlands which is d major cause of the crises in the first instance.

It is an obnoxious law. A businessman should fund his business like every other and abide by the laws of the states he is able to secure and set up his business. He must pay his taxes and ensure he doesn't breach the rights of others. Herdsmen are businessmen and not government babies or charity cases.

freeze001:
I stated very practical solutions in my first post on this thread, kindly go back to it again. And no, we are not one Nigeria, we are simply a group of distinct nations lumped together. No nation will lose its identity, traditions and properties to another without a major fight! Such fights are to the death and cannot be resolved by obnoxious federal laws.

Yet u rely on these same "obnoxious federal laws" for your daily bread. You cry that budget has not been passed, u want boko haram defeated and even now you are looking to fg to end the onslaught of the herdsmen.

You better wake up. There is no country in the world that does not have diverse traditions and cultures together. China, america, UK are all product of diverse cultures and peoples. This your seperatist ideology is both naive and ridiculous

Why is it that it's only Yorubas down south here that are supporting this land grabbing bill? At least on NL here

blackpanda:
Yet u rely on these same "obnoxious federal laws" for your daily bread. You cry that budget has not been passed, u want boko haram defeated and even now you are looking to fg to end the onslaught of the herdsmen.

You better wake up. There is no country in the world that does not have diverse traditions and cultures together. China, america, UK are all product of diverse cultures and peoples. This your seperatist ideology is both naive and ridiculous

I think they should start the implementation by taking your father's and grand-father's compound. Nonsense!

CyberWolf:
Why is it that it's only Yorubas down south here that are supporting this land grabbing bill?

Funny, but you ibos can lie. chaii.

A Yoruba governor was the first to denounce the bill. A Yoruba newspaper focus our attention on the bill. A Yoruba state was the first to ban Fulani.

What your cowardice governors couldn't do, Yorubas have done it.

Obiano's scary ass only talked after Oyo gov spoke against it.

Miracle center product.

freeze001:
The same bill makes it mandatory that any judgment obtained against the commission cannot be executed without the permission of the AG. So that is the FG whittling down the power of the judiciary. Secondly, how many family land owners are buoyant enough to engage in litigation of this sort? So why create a problem in the first instance?

In ensuring security, the government is also bound to conform to the prevailing customs and traditions of every area otherwise there wouldn't be a ministry of culture and tourism. Fulani beliefs and culture are completely different from what obtains in the South. The government should not therefore force strangers known for their destructiveness on others by Federal might.

The grazing bill will only foster more problems unless its powers are restricted to the north. You say when there is an outbreak of violence the Ministry of Agriculture can do nothing, is it the proposed Grazing Commission that can do anything? Is it a security agency?

I still maintain that government has no business acquiring and maintaining grazing facilities for just a select few with taxpayers money! They should apply for allocations from whichever state governments they wish and follow due process like every other business owner. It is the duty of security agencies to maintain law and order and that includes disarming the herdsmen, tackling their sources of illegal ammunition and prosecuting those found in possession of same.
Security will not come by fuelling their sense of entitlement as federal government brats. They aren't more Nigerian than others and the grazing reserves bill proposal is frigging unheard of anywhere else!

There is no way the judgement of a court can be subject to attorney general's consent. I dont know where u read that from. The only thing subject to AG's consent is when it comes to garnishee. You shld probably read the bill again.

Once again, you have succeeded in only stating the problem, with no solution. The constitution supports compulsory acquisition by govt. Perhaps u shld read that too.

And pls get over this your north-south mentality. Nigeria is one. There are millions of southerners doing business in the north. Shld FG also restrain them to the south??
Sorry but your comment is impractical and provides no solution

iKarma:
Funny, but you ibos can lie. chaii.

A Yoruba governor was the first to denounce the bill. A Yoruba newspaper focus our attention on the bill. A Yoruba state was the first to ban Fulani.

What your cowardice governors couldn't do, Yorubas have done it.

Obiano's scary ass only talked after Oyo gov spoke against it.

Miracle center product.

I said at least on NL?

CyberWolf:
I said at least on NL?

Who are the yoruba people? List their IDs.
Or are you talking about searching4love, one of the Yoruba personators?

Let ME be clear; Yorubas do not and have never supported that damn unconstitutional grazing bill.

blackpanda:
Yet u rely on these same "obnoxious federal laws" for your daily bread. You cry that budget has not been passed, u want boko haram defeated and even now you are looking to fg to end the onslaught of the herdsmen.

You better wake up. There is no country in the world that does not have diverse traditions and cultures together. China, america, UK are all product of diverse cultures and peoples. This your seperatist ideology is both naive and ridiculous

You have gone completely off tangent and you seem bent on being quite rude. Reality is a meal that must be eaten by all whether earlier or later. No law is above criticism and that is what I have engaged in so far as regards thus grazing bill.

Yes, these countries are products of diverse cultures but no one is placed over the other or given undue advantages. Try engaging the solutions I raised, find fault and argue them constructively. That's how to have mature and cerebral conversation.

However, when u start bringing in budget, boko haram and stuff unrelated to the subject matter I begin to wonder...when u start asking one to wake up like you hold all the right answers and can never be mistaken I can only assume that u do know that u support an erroneous position as far as this bill is concerned but u can't admit it...a shame really.

iKarma:
Who are the yoruba people? List their IDs.
Or are you talking about searching4love, one of the Yoruba personators?

Let it be clear; Yorubas do not and have never supported that damn unconstitutional grazing bill.

I think you are reading through this thread right? blackpanda, Dabuilt,passingshot, joborskill, etc.. All of them are active Yorubas on this forum and the defend this grazing bill aggressively.. Why?

CyberWolf:
I think they should start the implementation by taking your father's and grand-father's compound. Nonsense!

Quit childish rants. If you have a point, make it like a matured adult!

CyberWolf:
I think you are reading through this thread right? blackpanda, Dabuilt,passingshot, joborskill, etc.. All of them are active Yorubas on this forum and the defend this grazing bill aggressively.. Why?

Stop blabbing pls! I am not yoruba
Must u make everything about tribe

blackpanda:
Actually I think your questions are naive. But I will try to answer u any way. First of all, the criteria for determining when it is in public interest to acquire land has already been determined by the courts. And an aggrieved landowner can always sue the govt if he feels the acquisition had ulterior motives. An example of this is when patience jonathan tried to acquire the land of former first land turai under the guise of public interest. The court rejected the action of FCDA in re-allocating the land.

Secondly I think u are only looking at this onslaught by herdsmen from a business perspective. You have failed to take into consideration the security and social angle. There is no amount of money that is too great for security. The problem of invasion by fulani herdsmen cannot be compared to farming that is under the ministry of agriculture. When conflict erupts and people are slaughtered, there is little or nothing ministry of agriculture can do.

Again, despite the conflict, Nigeria still needs to keep its meat. It will not be wise or prudent to ban cattle rearers from nigeria, only to start importing meat from niger or chad. This is economically detrimental to our current predicament as a nation.

Cattle rearing is not a govt run business, but govt has the sole mandate to ensure peace and security around the country. There is also the matter of the constitution that gives rights to both the herdsmen and the landowners. The grazing bill remain the only way to navigate around these difficulties at the moment

Freeze001 answered you perfectly......unfortunately, what she said is too difficult for you to decipher, or perhaps you're ignorant or maybe short sighted

I'll start by answering all your questions @ the bolded....

You talk as if you're not living in Nigeria. Look lemme tell you, once that land is taken from the ancestral owners, that's the end, you'll even seen instances where the government will take the land without fully compensating the owners.....I doubt if the locals will ever have access to it again. You use PEJ and Turai as as example, failing to understand that these two people you just mentioned were former first ladies and also forgetting Nigeria's law only comes in place for the rich and elite but subjugate the poor at every given opportunity

Can you mind explaining the security and social angle of taking peoples choice lands and given to murderers for grazing?

See what you just said? So in the wake of conflict, we should still allow crazy grazing process even if it kills people all becos you don't want us to loose our meat? This is probably the dumbest comment I've seen all day.

Next you said cattle rearing is not a govt business......so if it is not, then why should the government provide lands for them in order to graze? Has the govt ever given a second thought to give free lands to other Southerners who do business in the North?

You're just contradicitng yourself, you said the govt should provide lands for them to graze all around the country.....so what landowners are you talking about again? Is it the ones that has already had their land taken away or what?

If you're so interested in this bill, you can write to the government to come set up grazing route for them in your state. Cos I don't see why any sane person living in this country could write to defend such nonsense. You talk as if once the grazing bill is passed then that's an automatic way to end the madness of this murderers.

If the govt can't provide peace and security for the locals now, what's the probability that they'll provide it when the grazing bill has been passed?

CyberWolf:
I think you are reading through this thread right? blackpanda, Dabuilt,passingshot, joborskill, etc.. All of them are active Yorubas on this forum and the defend this grazing bill aggressively.. Why?

Chaii shame no gree me even answer this question. I shame for some Yorubas on this NL.

Someone goes on national tv, claims that Oyo and Ogun are ancestral grazing grounds, and you have some motherfuckers supporting this bill?

The worst part of it all is that one omo nna had to point it out to me. How do I even defend this?

@The Yorubas on this thread

I shame for una. I'm not even going to defend this rubbish.

blackpanda:
Stop blabbing pls! I am not yoruba
Must u make everything about tribe

Shatap

blackpanda:
There is no way the judgement of a court can be subject to attorney general's consent. I dont know where u read that from. The only thing subject to AG's consent is when it comes to garnishee. You shld probably read the bill again.

Once again, you have succeeded in only stating the problem, with no solution. The constitution supports compulsory acquisition by govt. Perhaps u shld read that too.

And pls get over this your north-south mentality. Nigeria is one. There are millions of southerners doing business in the north. Shld FG also restrain them to the south??
Sorry but your comment is impractical and provides no solution

There are millions of Southerners doing business in the North, very true. So did the government give them special concessions and procure land strictly for their use? How did they set up their businesses? That is how the herdsmen should go about it within the ambit of the law or where have u heard of Southerners toting dangerous weapons and attacking people in the North?

Take it or leave it, we have completely distinct identities and none will tolerate any attempt to neutralise one in favour of the other. It is either there is mutual consent and respect in the course of existence and interaction or they stay separately. No law forcing one to accommodate the other who is a known parasite/destroyer will stand, it is as simple as that.

For that provision in the grazing bill requiring the consent Attorney General to enforce a judgement against the commission, one would expect u to make an effort to find out for urself or be civil in seeking clarification.

DaBullIT:
Before i answer the question let me call on mynd44 to be my witness incase some people decide to insult me and report me for replying their insults



Now i need to ask a question , You don't want Fulani's in your homes and lands and your farms

Yet , you do not want them confided in a grazing ranch where everybody will know their whereabouts and avoid them like plagues

Do you want the herdsmen out of the country or do you want them extinct ??


Fulani grazers even if they are uneducated and volatile[b] have the righ[/b]t to own / be given ranches where they won't come to towns to raid and abuse people

the same set of people complaning of raype, assault and massacre are still the ones who won't let them have their grazing lands


So what the fuuurck do you want ??

Under which Law

iKarma:
Chaii shame no gree me even answer this question. I shame for some Yorubas on this NL.

Someone goes on national tv, claims that Oyo and Ogun are ancestral grazing grounds, and you have some motherfuckers supporting this bill?

The worst part of it all is that one omo nna had to point it out to me. How do I even defend this?

@The Yorubas on this thread

I shame for una. I'm not even going to defend this rubbish.

No bro, it's good that some cool headed Yorubas like you are others are speaking against this bill. I think it's also necessary that you guys should start opposing some of your brothers on NL here because they way they take it serious, writing long epistles with all form seriousness makes me wonder if they are being paid by someone or what

CyberWolf:
No bro, it's good that some cool headed Yorubas like you are others are speaking against this bill. I think it's also necessary that you guys should start opposing some of your brothers on NL here because they way they take it serious, writing long epistles with all form seriousness makes me wonder if they are being paid by someone or what

From where i stand, a lot of yorubas are against it. I don't know where those breed of people come from.

*Talking to myself*

Yorubaland needs to flush some afonjas off our land when the time comes. We can use them as baits during.......

Pennsylvania:
Freeze001 answered you perfectly......unfortunately, what she said is too difficult for you to decipher, or perhaps you're ignorant or maybe short sighted

I'll start by answering all your questions @ the bolded....

You talk as if you're not living in Nigeria. Look lemme tell you, once that land is taken from the ancestral owners, that's the end, you'll even seen instances where the government will take the land without fully compensating the owners.....I doubt if the locals will ever have access to it again. You use PEJ and Turai as as example, failing to understand that these two people you just mentioned were former first ladies and also forgetting Nigeria's law only comes in place for the rich and elite but subjugate the poor at every given opportunity

Can you mind explaining the security and social angle of taking peoples choice lands and given to murderers for grazing?

See what you just said? So in the wake of conflict, we should still allow crazy grazing process even if it kills people all becos you don't want us to loose our meat? This is probably the dumbest comment I've seen all day.

Next you said cattle rearing is not a govt business......so if it is not, then why should the government provide lands for them in order to graze? Has the govt ever given a second thought to give free lands to other Southerners who do business in the North?

You're just contradicitng yourself, you said the govt should provide lands for them to graze all around the country.....so what landowners are you talking about again? Is it the ones that has already had their land taken away or what?

If you're so interested in this bill, you can write to the government to come set up grazing route for them in your state. Cos I don't see why any sane person living in this country could write to defend such nonsense. You talk as if once the grazing bill is passed then that's an automatic way to end the madness of this murderers.

If the govt can't provide peace and security for the locals now, what's the probability that they'll provide it when the grazing bill has been passed?

You know u can make ur points without insulting people.

Your argument is full of conspiracy theories and half truths. People win judgements against govt over land everyday. So no, the court judgement is not only for the rich

Dont come out to write about this u know absolutely nothing about and base your arguments on speculation, rumour and roadside gossip. From your comments, u obviously have not read the bill. So until u do, dont comment blindly.

And btw, for your information, compulsory acquisition of land is already provided for under the constitution. Govt cannot take any land lawfully without payment of compensation.

Always try to read and research before commenting, ok.

iKarma:
From where i stand, a lot of yorubas are against it. I don't know where those breed of people come from.

*Talking to myself*

Yorubaland needs to flush some afonjas off our land when the time comes. We can use them as baits during.......

I think most of them supporting it are doing it from political angle forgetting that there was Yoruba/Igbo before APC/PDP and the interest of one's tribe should always come first before party. One day, all this political parties will go away but your tribe will never go away. So if you sell off your tribe on the alter of political party, one day when this political goes away, you won't have where to call home again.

freeze001:
Desert? Yet they claim to be the source of food for the nation without which Southerners would starve so what's the link? Haven't they heard of irrigation? Their governors should understudy the UAE, a confirmed desert and find out how they are able to survive with lush, green vegetation as well. You don’t see them migrating to swampy or more watered regions.

You even dignified him with a response.

The Fulani simply feel they own the world, especially now that they think they have a kindred spirit looking out for their best interests.

I don't see why the private roaming of these fellows takes them to farmlands, when there are forests they could always vegetate in.

I cannot see why the Fulani's as a similar specie can breed in arid lands while their cows need to be guided across city centers, like grass grows on tar, to farmlands they didn't sweat for. Yet some people feel it's their right to be given places to roam about to, when the land up there is so vast and their cows are adapted to semidesert conditions.

Compensation scheme to murderers, because they are of frail sensibilities and volatile. Smh.

freeze001:
There are millions of Southerners doing business in the North, very true. So did the government give them special concessions and procure land strictly for their use? How did they set up their businesses? That is how the herdsmen should go about it within the ambit of the law or where have u heard of Southerners toting dangerous weapons and attacking people in the North?

Take it or leave it, we have completely distinct identities and none will tolerate any attempt to neutralise one in favour of the other. It is either there is mutual consent and respect in the course of existence and interaction or they stay separately. No law forcing one to accommodate the other who is a known parasite/destroyer will stand, it is as simple as that.

For that provision in the grazing bill requiring the consent Attorney General to enforce a judgement against the commission, one would expect u to make an effort to find out for urself or be civil in seeking clarification.

Do the southerners in the north rear cattles?? Is there any conflict between them and the northern indigenes to warrant govt intervention?? Your points go to no issue.

Sorry, but the FG does not make laws or policies based on tribalism. The earlier you quit this "them-us" mentality, the better for the country. The President and entire federal govt oath upon assuming office is to ensure the territorial intergrity of nigeria and enforce peace and security. It is not to ensure the terrirorial integrity of the south against the north, or the north against the south. All nigerians have the right to own property in any part of the country. Igbo men own vast extensive properties all over the north and south east. In the same way yorubas and hausa own property worth billions of naira around the country. This is the vision of our constitution. It is not about promoting hate or calling any tribe "parasites"!

blackpanda:
Do the southerners in the north rear cattles?? Is there any conflict between them and the northern indigenes to warrant govt intervention?? Your points go to no issue.

Sorry, but the FG does not make laws or policies based on tribalism. The earlier you quit this "them-us" mentality, the better for the country. The President and entire federal govt oath upon assuming office is to ensure the territorial intergrity of nigeria and enforce peace and security. It is not to ensure the terrirorial integrity of the south against the north, or the north against the south. All nigerians have the right to own property in any part of the country. Igbo men own vast extensive properties all over the north and south east. In the same way yorubas and hausa own property worth billions of naira around the country. This is the vision of our constitution. It is not about promoting hate or calling any tribe "parasites"!

If we understand you correctly, you want these rights for Fulani nomads. Because they own cattle.

Are the cattle property of Nigeria or of the Fulani cattle rearers? Is it their private cows or public cows? When people do their businesses, they personally go and find a business center. They don't need tax payers money to set themselves up. Or a government to spend unnecessary funds on making them comfortable. Why, then, do you think that the country owes them for them deciding to roam and kill people because of their PERSONAL business? Because, what, they are rearing cows? And other people with private businesses don't have rights? Because they aren't walking miles from their origins with cows and leaving cow faeces in their wake?

The cattle are their business, so they should mind their business.

Do you realize that simple sensitization back in the deserts could change the outlook of these people? They aren't the only nomads in the world, but they are the worst sort, because their excesses are being cuddled by people of a like view as yourself who think they need to be given " rights ". If they wish to rear their cattle, it's their business and nobody owes them anything. In fact, they ought to be law abiding and stop killing people or else they face the law. But rather what you have here is a scheme to breed more trouble.

It's not as though if they were given grazing guidelines they would ever abide by them. Provided their spindly legs get there, they feel they own it. What happens when they feel you're trying to change their custom of going where they please? They begin killing people in cities to make their point. Educating them is the only means of making them reason.

blackpanda:
Do the southerners in the north rear cattles?? Is there any conflict between them and the northern indigenes to warrant govt intervention?? Your points go to no issue.

Sorry, but the FG does not make laws or policies based on tribalism. The earlier you quit this "them-us" mentality, the better for the country. The President and entire federal govt oath upon assuming office is to ensure the territorial intergrity of nigeria and enforce peace and security. It is not to ensure the terrirorial integrity of the south against the north, or the north against the south. All nigerians have the right to own property in any part of the country. Igbo men own vast extensive properties all over the north and south east. In the same way yorubas and hausa own property worth billions of naira around the country. This is the vision of our constitution. It is not about promoting hate or calling any tribe "parasites"!

Must they rear cattle? It is not what they are traditionally involved in. Is cattle rearing a priority business that must warrant government intervention and not others that even contribute to our national income through taxes? Must they be in conflict with others? So the reward for wanton lawlessness, bloodlust and murder is government patronage and free access to every state of their choice?

Actually, the FG recognises tribes and that is why there are customary courts in the south and mainly sharia courts in most northern states. That is why there is disparity in the scores for admission into unity schools, that is why the constitution recognises traditional rulers and their roles so yes, some laws are predicated on tribalism.

This particular bill in question is a highly tribalist one designed to favour a particular tribe known particularly for this business of cattle rearing.

Like I said before, there is no one Nigeria. There must be mutual consent and agreement before two completely different people can do business together or coexist mostly in peace. Useless laws like these will only further widen that divide which u want to be blind to by force.

Igbo men own vast properties how? By personal effort in line with state laws. Herdsman can do same and must be compelled to do so not by this galling and disgusting attempt by government pandering to their whims just because of some misplaced sense of entitlement or belief in the monopoly of violence to hold others to ransom.

CyberWolf:
I think most of them supporting it are doing it from political angle forgetting that there was Yoruba/Igbo before APC/PDP and the interest of one's tribe should always come first before party. One day, all this political parties will go away but your tribe will never go away. So if you sell off your tribe on the alter of political party, one day when this political goes away, you won't have where to call home again.

Nwannem I just tire! Imagine some of the ignorant crap some people have vomited on his thread in support of impunity and madness! A lot of people forget they carry first, the identity of their tribe before any political ideologies or party membership.

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blackpanda:
You know u can make ur points without insulting people.

Your argument is full of conspiracy theories and half truths. People win judgements against govt over land everyday. So no, the court judgement is not only for the rich

Dont come out to write about this u know absolutely nothing about and base your arguments on speculation, rumour and roadside gossip. From your comments, u obviously have not read the bill. So until u do, dont comment blindly.

And btw, for your information, compulsory acquisition of land is already provided for under the constitution. Govt cannot take any land lawfully without payment of compensation.

Always try to read and research before commenting, ok.

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Oh, I didn't knw you were the only one on Nairaland that read and researched on the grazing bill.

You spoke about me insulting you, but your response was loaded with the insult you complained about - talking about hypocrisy!

You haven't answered any of the questions I tabled before you, as usual, you're trying to dodge them.

Tell me how giving grazing routes to this murders will reduce what we're currently experiencing now?

If your govt can't protect lives and properties now it hasn't been passed, what's the assurance that it will protect them when the useless 'imaginary' bill has been implemented?

FYI, the grazing bill is DOA. All Southern senators will veto the bill. I'm only replying to this thread cos of the way you replied Freeze with so much seriousness.

Now run along!

I shudder to see some slaves reason through their anus just to be or sound political correct. Freeze01, you even have the time to be educating the slowpoke. What business do government have in grabbing people's ancestral land and giving it to some marauders just to please them. Have they considered doing same for the rest tribes especially those that rear pigs in the north? Buhari Islamic agenda to penetrate the entire parts of Nigeria under this senseless bill will only lead to the quick disintegration of the entity called Nigeria. I bought the land I use for my farm and Fulanis should equally do same for the sake of fairness, equality and justice. I can only give them a piece of my land if they are ready to forfeit the entire palace of the Sultan of sokoto so I can equally use it for piggery.

freeze001:
Must they rear cattle? It is not what they are traditionally involved in. Is cattle rearing a priority business that must warrant government intervention and not others that even contribute to our national income through taxes? Must they be in conflict with others? So the reward for wanton lawlessness, bloodlust and murder is government patronage and free access to every state of their choice?

Actually, the FG recognises tribes and that is why there are customary courts in the south and mainly sharia courts in most northern states. That is why there is disparity in the scores for admission into unity schools, that is why the constitution recognises traditional rulers and their roles so yes, some laws are predicated on tribalism.

This particular bill in question is a highly tribalist one designed to favour a particular tribe known particularly for this business of cattle rearing.

Like I said before, there is no one Nigeria. There must be mutual consent and agreement before two completely different people can do business together or coexist mostly in peace. Useless laws like these will only further widen that divide which u want to be blind to by force.

Igbo men own vast properties how? By personal effort in line with state laws. Herdsman can do same and must be compelled to do so not by this galling and disgusting attempt by government pandering to their whims just because of some misplaced sense of entitlement or belief in the monopoly of violence to hold others to ransom.

Go read up the meaning of tribalism before commenting. Constitution recognising all traditional rulers or sharia or customary courts does not amount to tribalism. Infact, that is the opposite of tribalism!

blackpanda:
Go read up the meaning of tribalism before commenting. Constitution recognising all traditional rulers or sharia or customary courts does not amount to tribalism. Infact, that is the opposite of tribalism!

They recognise the existence and distinct traditions of those tribes that is why the different traditional rulers and modes of dispensation of justice are recognised and not erased into ur so called one Nigeria.

However, it is policies like the differentiated scores for entry into unity schools that smack it tribalism, attempting to favour some over others with undue advantages. This grazing bill is tribalism personified, giving preference to a particular business dominated by a particular tribe over other businesses operated and spread among others thereby according them a preferential status over others.

So u see, Nigerian laws acknowledge the distinct nations/tribes whilst some are sheer tribalism personified and that is why there will be conflict!

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Nwannem I just tire! Imagine some of the ignorant crap some people have vomited on his thread in support of impunity and madness! A lot of people forget they carry first, the identity of their tribe before any political ideologies or party membership.

I tire for them oo.. That's why I can't waste my time arguing with scumbags who has been programmed to irredeemably stupiid... Just hash words with a venomous insult will help reset their brain. It's even worrisome that most of this daft ediots are southerners..
You really tried resetting the brain of that zombie but as you can see, he is already hopeless.