GorkoSusaay:


You, obviously, have a problem with the historical truth.

Actually, lawani is right about afonja,alimi never betrayed afonja

yemaldo:

Actually, lawani is right about afonja,alimi never betrayed afonja

Haha, he's going to dispute with you now.

BudeYahooCom:
If they really love the hausas let them start by removing Sanusi as Emir and replace him with a 100% hausa man. KANO IS HAUSALAND

Do 100% hausa man exist?

lawani or whatever you call yourself, you are a big disgrace to the Yoruba race. I make bold to say that because your ITK (I Too Know) led you to poke your nose into a discussion that does not concern you nor Yorubas in any way. The Op of this stuwpid thread is a Yee.bbo guy reputed for his inciteful and anti-Northern utterances. How his moment of foolishness concerns you is what I don't understand, so much so that you are obnoxiously arguing Hausa-Fulani history with Northerners and needlessly dragging Yorubas in the mud in the process. Sotay you are even begging Fulani support for the installation of a Yoruba Oba at ilorin. See where your presumptuous ITK has led you? Where the fvck is your pride?? I spit on your stoopeedity.

You are all merely flagellating. Nothing you submitted show that Ilorin ever fell to a non Yoruba majority army at any time since its foundation. Ilorin never at anytime was under the Sokoto caliphate. That is the point. No non Yoruba army ever occupied Ilorin at any time. No Fulani led army seized Ilorin at any time. In the 1870s Ilorin was allied with Ijesa against Ibadan. They were led by Ajiun but were defeated and their army perished in the Otin river when Offa allied with Ibadan cut the bridge behind them. So Ilorin was deeply involved in the Yoruba civil war. If not that Ibadan's hands were full, they would have occupied Ilorin properly. North of Ilorin, Jebba has an Oba, so for you to know that no Yoruba land was inside Sokoto empire at any time. The Ilorin jihad was by Yoruba Muslims and they were briefly led by Abdulsalam, Alimi's son.


Oba Moma was Afonja and Ajikobi another Oyo prince signed Ilorin under British protection. So all your stories are tales by the moonlight. The Emir of Ilorin title was made possible by the Northern region government. It was not something earned by Fulanis. Keep that in mind because the Ajikobi still have the protection agreement with the British. Stop fooling around. No part of Bariba or Yoruba lands in Kwara, Niger and Kogi was ever in the Sokoto caliphate at any time.

If they were, Fulanis would have been the ones to sign the protection agreements with the British but such happened only and solely in Hausa and Nupe lands. It did not happen anywhere in Bariba or Yoruba lands. So thank God for what you have and manage it well. Yoruba and Bariba lands, South and North of the Niger and Nupe south of the Niger are not parts of the sokoto caliphate, Know the boundaries of the Sokoto caliphate and the lands the Fulani signed under British protection and into Nigeria. NO YORUBA OR BARIBA LAND IS THERE!


Please wake up from your slumber.

How can you open your mouth and say Afonja converted to Islam? What a pity!

Afonja never converted to Islam. He was an original human being. Only brainwashed people convert to Abrahamic religions not normal people. All those barbaric practices will be banned in Yoruba land.

lawani:
You are all merely flagellating. Nothing you submitted show that Ilorin ever fell to a non Yoruba majority army at any time since its foundation. Ilorin never at anytime was under the Sokoto caliphate. That is the point. No non Yoruba army ever occupied Ilorin at any time. No Fulani led army seized Ilorin at any time. In the 1870s Ilorin was allied with Ijesa against Ibadan. They were led by Ajiun but were defeated and their army perished in the Otin river when Offa allied with Ibadan cut the bridge behind them. So Ilorin was deeply involved in the Yoruba civil war. If not that Ibadan's hands were full, they would have occupied Ilorin properly. North of Ilorin, Jebba has an Oba, so for you to know that no Yoruba land was inside Sokoto empire at any time. The Ilorin jihad was by Yoruba Muslims and they were briefly led by Abdulsalam, Alimi's son.


Oba Moma was Afonja and Ajikobi another Oyo prince signed Ilorin under British protection. So all your stories are tales by the moonlight. The Emir of Ilorin title was made possible by the Northern region government. It was not something earned by Fulanis. Keep that in mind because the Ajikobi still have the protection agreement with the British. Stop fooling around. No part of Bariba or Yoruba lands in Kwara, Niger and Kogi was ever in the Sokoto caliphate at any time.

If they were, Fulanis would have been the ones to sign the protection agreements with the British but such happened only and solely in Hausa and Nupe lands. It did not happen anywhere in Bariba or Yoruba lands. So thank God for what you have and manage it well. Yoruba and Bariba lands, South and North of the Niger and Nupe south of the Niger are not parts of the sokoto caliphate, Know the boundaries of the Sokoto caliphate and the lands the Fulani signed under British protection and into Nigeria. NO YORUBA OR BARIBA LAND IS THERE!


Please wake up from your slumber.

It has been good sport for me seeing you grasp at straws, get up, fell down throughout this argument.
Now I realize that you are completely ignorant or willfully ignorant. Out of depth about the history of the Yorubas and Ilorin.

The Moma you have been talking about, as the "descendant of Afonja" is actually the great-grandson of Shehu Alimi, the first Emir of Ilorin. You are campaigning for someone's descendants without knowing them

Momo was the 6th Emir of Ilorin from 1891 and 1896. He was the one who signed the protectorate treaty with the British. Emir Momo (1891-1896) was the son of Emir Zubayru (1860-1869) who was the son of Emir Abdussalami (1826-137) who was the son of Shehu Alimi (R.A.).
This is what Samuel Johnson, author of the History of the Yorubas, and a descendant of Alaafin Abiodun, has to say about him.

"About the end of November, 1891, the report of the death of Alihu, the Emir of Ilorin, gained ground, and spread all over the country; the precise date of his demise was not known, probably it was in the earlier part of the month. Prince Momo the rightful successor, whom Karara had regarded as his rightful sovereign, was unanimously chosen by all to the throne of Ilorin. It was said that about 20,000 horsemen and 20,000 footmen escorted him home from the camp to take possession of the throne of his fathers.
As soon as Momo ascended the throne the scene was changed altogether. Being partly of Yoruba descent, his mother being a native of Ipapo a town near Iseyin, he was for peace with the Yorubas. Communications between him and the Alaafin of Oyo were open and frequent, the latter sending him some heavy presents for his coronation : the return presents from the Emir were beautiful horses richly caparisoned. He also sent a horse to the Baale of Ipapo, his mother's town. Some of the princes of Oyo also exchanged presents with Ilorin princes.
Not long after the accession of Momo, the renowned Karara, the Hausa Balogun of Ilorin, died in the camp and was succeeded by his son Adamu who inherited not only his father's property but also his warlike spirit and his office."

Now Ajikobi, the Yoruba Balogun of Ilorin died in 1837, nearly 50 years before British colonization.
Here's what Samuel Johnson has to say about his fate, following the Ilorin defeat at Osogbo.

"But Ali the commander-in-chief [of the Ilorin army] was calm and resolute ; he ordered his horse to be saddled, and gathering around him a goodly portion of his cavalry they dashed through the ranks of the Ibadan army ; these quickly making a way for them to gallop through without daring to oppose them, especially as numbers of the men were scattered about on plundering bent.

The principal Ilorin war-chiefs captured in this defeat were:
1. Jimba the head slave of the Emir of Ilorin.
2. One of the sons of Ali the commander-in-chief.
3. Chiet Lateju and
4. Ajikobi the Yoruba Balogun of Ilorin.

The first two were released and sent home privately by the Ibadan war-chiefs, a form of chivalrous etiquette among the war-chiefs. The latter two being Yorubas by birth were regarded rather as traitors to their country, and were sent home to Ibadan as distinguished captives of war.
The Basorun [the famous Oluyole] sentenced Lateju to death alleging that it was in his house that King Oluewu, the last of the ancient Oyo, was fettered when taken at the Eleduwe war, before he was put to death. That was the ostensible charge but the chief reason really was because Oluyole's wives fell into Lateju's hands at the collapse of that expedition, and he was not chivalrous enough to release them and send them to him as a brother chief.

Ajikobi being a more distinguished personage was sent to the AlAfin of Oyo for capital punishment. The messengers with the illustrious captive met the King engaged in one of his annual festivals, and he ordered that the feu de joie his servants were then firing should be directed on Ajikobi. This was- accordingly done, and he was roasted to death with gunpowder. .

The original Ajikobi who was Alaafin Abiodun's son died in 1837, his successors were the Balogun Ajikobis of Ilorin till today. It was one of them that signed the protection agreement with the British in 1897 not the first one who died in 1837 50 years before. That is it, the Ajikobi signed the British protection agreement and not a Fulani man. The Ajikobis were also renegade Muslims I am afraid. His brother who settled in Lagos was honoured with the highest honour of the Ottoman empire, the Bey title. He was Shitta Bey of Lagos. So they were renegade Muslims as well but hopefully all that rubbish will come to an end and they will revert to the true God who supports idolatory and deification of every thing, the Gentleman God.

All Ilorin indigenes know Oba Moma as an Afonja descendant but the Afonja family were ostracised by the other Yoruba, infact all Ilorin people were ostracised by the rest of the Oyo of which Rev Johnson was a member. The Ilorin allied at a time with non Oyos like Ijesa. So that was what Rev Johnson meant by saying Moma's mother was from Iseyin.


However, the advise remains 'focus on the places where the Fulani signed their protection agreements with the British because when Nigeria breaks no part not signed into Nigeria by Fulanis will be part of a Fulani controlled country'. I believe you are not a kid and should know that. Jebba in Niger state which is Yoruba land with Oba will not go to a Fulani controlled country, nor New Bussa or any Bariba land. How much more Ilorin? This should be easy for you to grasp.

Oba Moma was approved by the Alaafin, Ibadan and even Britain, then the Balogun Gambari accepted him as his sovereign. Ask any Ilorin person what lineage Oba Moma was and they will say Afonja. That the Alaafin and Oyo princes sent presents is instructive. Then when he wanted to ally properly with Britain and Ibadan was when he fell out with his Baloguns and ended up committing suicide. I am still researching though, then Suleiman Dan Aliyu became Oba Ilorin in 1896, Ilorin capitulated to the Royal Niger company in 1897. He signed the protection agreement. Suleiman Dan Aliyu ostensibly is the Ajikobi descendant who signed the protection agreement with the British. The founder of the Ilorin Ajikobi family was executed by the Alaafin in 1837 for being a traitor to Oyo. So they are not on good terms with the Alaafin despite being Oyo princes. They have the residual right to be Alaafin. However, they have come into their own as have done the Afonja family. Even the Ibadan now claim parity with the Alaafin and the Olubadan has said that the chairmanship of the Oyo state traditional council must be rotated. So everybody have come to their own and the Alaafin is not fighting anybody again. Both the Afonjas and the Ajikobis have realised the folly of detaching from their kith and kin. They will be restored and the Olu of Ilorin title will be rotated between them while the real power will lie with the 6 or 7 principal Ilorin chiefs. Ajikobi, Afonja, Gambari, Fulani, Alanamu and Baba Isale. Since the city was brought into Nigeria by a Yoruba signature, it must retain its Yoruba identity like Ibadan and etc at all cost.

It seems this lawani fellow has gone ape shiit crazy. You need help.

VomeSchakleton:
It seems this lawani fellow has gone ape shiit crazy. You need help.

I am sick of the foolishness that NIGERIA is and I want the country to disintegrate into well alligned and manageable units. So how is that crazy? If you are a Hausa Fulani man, rally your people together, call for the dissolution of the country so that you can build a Hausa Fulani nation as did your ancestors. Why are you against that?

I also dont like people misrepresenting history saying Ilorin was conquered by Fulani when no such thing happened. New Oyo towns have not yet been conquered by any group ever Ibadan, Ilorin and etc because they were recently inaugurated. I dont like when history is deliberately misrepresented. How can a Fulani man say they would have been ruling Yorubas if not for the British? That is very rude for a Fulani to say. I hope you understand.

lawani:


I am sick of the foolishness that NIGERIA is and I want the country to disintegrate into well alligned and manageable units. So how is that crazy? If you are a Hausa Fulani man, rally your people together, call for the dissolution of the country so that you can build a Hausa Fulani nation as did your ancestors. Why are you against that?

I also dont like people misrepresenting history saying Ilorin was conquered by Fulani when no such thing happened. New Oyo towns have not yet been conquered by any group ever Ibadan, Ilorin and etc because they were recently inaugurated. I dont like when history is deliberately misrepresented. How can a Fulani man say they would have been ruling Yorubas if not for the British? That is very rude for a Fulani to say. I hope you understand.

I see your pain for its hurting when part of your own was forcefully taken but please, direct your anger to the Afonjas and Ajikobis of the time gone by who were among the architects of this painful ( or may be embracing) history.

For all your rants all we want from you now is to prove that Moma is of Afonja descent by providing us with his Genealogy since we have given you our proof that he was of Alimi descent and endeavor to tell us what made the Oyo ruling class abandoned Old Oyo and build anew one further South. A saying goes thus " The present is the key to the past" The British colonialists to a very large extent maintained the status quo they met on ground when they came and they left it as it was, so leaving Ilorin at the hands of the Fulani is a clear indicator that it was a Fulani domain before the advent of the colonialist. The British would not have favoured us above you because they conquered you before they conquered us, they befriended you before they befriended us and they helped you and aided you before they helped and aided us.
And know that Islam has already penetrated the Yoruba Nation even the present Alaafin ( Oba Lamidi Adeyemi is a practicing Muslim). Just accept the reality and stop dreaming dreams.

yemaldo:

Actually, lawani is right about afonja,alimi never betrayed afonja

Yes, Alimi never abandoned Afonja but his son Abdussalam fought and kill Afonja.

Baaballiyo:


I see your pain for its hurting when part of your own was forcefully taken but please, direct your anger to the Afonjas and Ajikobis of the time gone by who were among the architects of this painful ( or may be embracing) history.

For all your rants all we want from you now is to prove that Moma is of Afonja descent by providing us with his Genealogy since we have given you our proof that he was of Alimi descent and endeavor to tell us what made the Oyo ruling class abandoned Old Oyo and build anew one further South. A saying goes thus " The present is the key to the past" The British colonialists to a very large extent maintained the status quo they met on ground when they came and they left it as it was, so leaving Ilorin at the hands of the Fulani is a clear indicator that it was a Fulani domain before the advent of the colonialist. The British would not have favoured us above you because they conquered you before they conquered us, they befriended you before they befriended us and they helped you and aided you before they helped and aided us.
And know that Islam has already penetrated the Yoruba Nation even the present Alaafin ( Oba Lamidi Adeyemi is a practicing Muslim). Just accept the reality and stop dreaming dreams.

Ask any Ilorin person and they will tell you Oba Moma is Afonja. The important thing is that he was accepted by the Yoruba and he carried himself like a Yoruba person, committing suicide when he saw that his Balogun had risen against him. He did so in a traditional Yoruba manner. Call any Ilorin perSon and ask who Oba Moma was and what is his lineage. Dont rely on websites or online stuff. I spoke with Ilorin people already. Nevertheless, the Oba of Ilorin who put Ilorin under British protection was Sulayman Dan Aliyu, an Ajikobi man whose grandfather or father was the Ajikobi that was executed by the Alaafin. that was the person who signed Ilorin under Britain not any Fulani. That is what you should always keep in mind. Do not forget that.

Then the last people to come under British protection were the Egba and they succumbed because all their neighbours had succumbed. Their coming under British protection came after the Amalgamation of the Northern and Southern Protectorates of Nigeria. So get your history right. Dont come here to spew ignorance. the British did not engage the Yoruba in any war, they came to settle fight and they were hailed at the warfront in Igbajo by the combatants. It was the Sokoto caliphate that was brutally conquered by the British, not any Yoruba state. Among the Yoruba, only Ilorin, Lagos and Ijebu engaged the British, the others never did, obviously because they were been led by God through Ifa and because the British came to end a pointless 16 year long war that everyone was tired of already.


It would be wrong to call the Alaafin a true Muslim. The Alaafin is an Aborisha. He is an olorisha. Aborisha do not see anything wrong in practicing any spirituality or religion and I see that as a problem because someone saying you are an infidel, unbeliever, Kaffir and etc is not your friend and you should not worship with such a person. Worship with Hindus, Buddhists and etc instead who respect you. That is the point I have been trying to drive home. All Yoruba Obas or at least the majority are Aborisha.

lawani:


Ask any Ilorin person and they will tell you Oba Moma is Afonja. The important thing is that he was accepted by the Yoruba and he carried himself like a Yoruba person, committing suicide when he saw that his Balogun had risen against him. He did so in a traditional Yoruba manner. Call any Ilorin perSon and ask who Oba Moma was and what is his lineage. Dont rely on websites or online stuff. I spoke with Ilorin people already. Nevertheless, the Oba of Ilorin who put Ilorin under british protection was Sulayman Dan Aliyu, an Ajikobi man whose grandfather or father was the Ajikobi that was executed by the Alaafin. that was the person who signed Ilorin under Britain not any Fulani. that is what you should always keep in mind. Do not forget that.

Then the last people to come under British protection were the Egba and they succumbed because all their neighbours had succumbed. Their coming under British protection came after the Amalgamation of the Northern and Southern Protectorates of Nigeria. So get your history right. Dont come here to spew ignorance. the British did not engage the Yoruba in any war, they came to settle fight and they were hailed at the warfront in Igbajo by the combatants. It was the Sokoto caliphate that was brutally conquered by the British, not any Yoruba state. Among the Yoruba, only Ilorin and Ijebu engaged the British, the others never did, obviously because they were been led by God through Ifa.


It would be wrong to call the Alaafin a true Muslim. The Alaafin is an Aborisha. He is an olorisha. Aborisha do not see anything wrong in practicing any spirituality or religion and I see that as a problem because someone saying you are an infidel, unbeliever, Kaffir and etc is not your friend and you should not worship with such a person. Worship with Hindus, Buddhists and etc instead who respect you. That is the point I have been trying to drive home. All Yoruba Obas or at least the majority are Aborisha.

You gave up your sovereignty to the British without a fight and what does that implied, Cowardice ? Oh !! you said enlightenment from God through Ifa, does that means the the ijebus Ilorins had abandoned Ifa that's why his guidance did not reach them ? Thanks for the insight you gave me about the Yoruba race I really appreciate it. With this my contribution on this issue is but done, I wish u the best in all ur endeavours. Thanks.

Baaballiyo:


You gave up your sovereignty to the British without a fight and what does that implied, Cowardice ? Oh !! you said enlightenment from God through Ifa, does that means the the ijebus Ilorins had abandoned Ifa that's why his guidance did not reach them ? Thanks for the insight you gave me about the Yoruba race I really appreciate it. With this my contribution on this issue is but done, I wish u the best in all ur endeavours. Thanks.

No need to become condescending, or project his actions on his whole race.

Lawani blew me away!

Ogbon onti tan ninu yi o Baba.

9jacrip:
Lawani blew me away!

Ogbon onti tan ninu yi o Baba.

Why yes, smart people accept the truth, spreading and accepting falsehood is what the weak propagate. You can spread all you want, it wont change a single thing unless you have facts to back it up.

I used a translator btw, if youre wondering.

Since Usman Dan Folio, we have known Hausa Arabs and Fulani Arabs. Arabs are Arabs, Why the difference now? If we're to share the states in the nw, ne and nc, which of them will be Hausas and which will be Fulanis,?,

VomeSchakleton:


Why yes, smart people accepting the truth, spreading and accepting falsehood is what the weak propagate. You can spread all you want, it wont change a single thing unless you have facts to back it up.

I used a translator btw, if youre wondering.

OK.

I have no interest in Ilorin but keep in mind if Nigeria were to implode today, Yoruba will take back that piece of shitty land.

Move along now, I am only reading the history of Ilorin and I thought my brother's input were very interesting and researched.

9jacrip:


OK.

I have no interest in Ilorin but keep in mind if Nigeria were to implode today, Yoruba will take back that piece of shitty land.

Move along now, I am only reading the history of Ilorin and I thought my brother's input were very interesting and researched.

Of course you did, youre just as barmy and deluded as he is.

VomeSchakleton:


Of course you did, youre just as barmy and deluded as he is.

You need to take your cattles for a walk bruh.

9jacrip:



You need to take your cattles for a walk bruh.

Yeah, I need to walk them over to your house to dump a pile of dung in your parlour. Foh!

The situation in Yoruba land late 19th century was similar to the situation in Syria today. If any more organised country should step in to administer Syria for a while, it would be very foolish for the rebels and the Assa regime not to capitulate to that country. The British did not use force, they contacted the Yoruba in the Christian missions, contacted the Alaafin, Ooni and probably the Ogboni leadership who must have given them the go ahead, they then went to the warfront to end the fighting. People were tired already of the war, I know a man in Ilesa whose father was born on that war front. So the British peace was welcomed by the Yoruba

VomeSchakleton:


Yeah, I need to walk them over to your house to dump a pile of dung in your parlour. Foh!

Lol

Prolly a rickety looking cattle fucking idiot.

You best thank you stars for the Jihad & Nigeria. Else, you prolly would have been wasting away in the heat of Futa JGallon .

Fvcking tse-tse fly.

Lawani, all those people you quoted are descendants of Shehu Alimi lol. Whether Emir Moma (1891-1896) or Emir Sulaymanu dan Aliyu (1896-1915), both are great-grandsons of Shehu Alimi, respectively through Abdussalami (1826-1837) or Shitta (1837-1860).
You really are confused. Go to SCOAN. Seek for deliverance. I would pay the fees if needs be.

lawani:


Aminu Kano called for the abolition of the Sokoto caliphate. So I wonder what you mean by saying he is Fulani. We know many gentlemen who are Fulani like Alhaji Shagari, Dangiwa Umar and etc and we know thugs like PMB but unless you can bring proof that Aminu Kano is Fulani, he remains Hausa as he identified himself. His mother however maybe related to Fulani. The proof I need is his father's name, clan, his other brothers by thesame father, his paternal Uncles and their descendants, if you can not produce those info, then leave the man as Hausa as he identified himself.

Then Muritala Mohammed is a Bakane of Auchi descent just like Kwakwanso is a Bakane of Yoruba descent. An Ijaw woman in Ile Ife told me Nnamdi Azikiwe was Ijaw who left with an Igbo person at a young age and etc. You find that such stories are true if you dig deeper.

Funny zik ijaw...hmmmm wonders ...in Igbo land we have a way of tracing lineage ask any Igbo man that married any Igbo woman

Questions are asked

lawani:
The situation in Yoruba land late 19th century was similar to the situation in Syria today. If any more organised country should step in to administer Syria for a while, it would be very foolish for the rebels and the Assa regime not to capitulate to that country. The British did not use force, they contacted the Yoruba in the Christian missions, contacted the Alaafin, Ooni and probably the Ogboni leadership who must have given them the go ahead, they then went to the warfront to end the fighting. People were tired already of the war, I know a man in Ilesa whose father was born on that war front. So the British peace was welcomed by the Yoruba

Dude are you not getting romantic over these glaring attempts at revisionism?
Why not call a color by its name, rather than dancing around an obviously uncomfortable historical fact? Primary yellow color is now actually yellowish-purplish-orange hue?

The Fulanis entrenched themselves in power over their Hausa, Nupe, Ilorin, Bata and other hosts.
Afonja lost out to Abdul Salami the son of his ally Alimi. Afonja was definitely killed or burnt by his enemies depending on the version you believe.
Summary is the other arm of dan Fodio's empire, Gwandu sent a flag of recognition to AbdulSalami ON REQUEST… thus cementing the status of Ilorin as a Fula emirate.
These are easily verifiable facts….which you have so far tried unsuccessfully to challenge.
There has been no instance in all the Fula founded emirates where the ruling families somehow turned out not to be Fulani but instead a part of the local conquesred peoples…like you are trying to insinuate.
It is true, the Fulanis are the ruling powers in this colonial contraption, and they had the active and willful collaboration of indigenes and local rulers. Just like certain Oyo muslims in Ilorin actively supported the Fulani usurpers… for reasons best known to them.
Your denials not withstanding, the positions of the guys trying to school you in Fulani history appear to be lost on you.

Call reality by its name and you will not stumble in your way forward.
My 2 cents.

I took a renewed interest in this Ilorin case many years ago after reading an interview by the Balogun Ajikobi of Ilorin either in Punch or Tribune after Gov Lawal promoted Magaji Aare Afonja to first class. The Balogun Ajikobi was brandishing the Protection agreement signed by his ancestors and lamenting that he the rightful Oba Ilorin as been sidelined by the powers that be. In the interview their history was related, both Shitta Bey and Ajikobi were brothers, sons of Alaafin Abiodun who escaped from Oyo ile when Muslims were attacked as a fallout of the killing of Afonja in Ilorin, Ajikobi fled to Ilorin while Shitta Bey fled to Sierra Leone from where he relocated to Lagos and became a millionaire who used his money to further the cause of Islam, The Ottomann Turks heard of him and honoured him with the Bey title. The family are still in Lagos. They are Lagosians. Ajikobi the other brother relocated to Ilorin was made Balogun and he joined the jihad to Islamise Yoruba land. He was captured by Ibadan when the Ilorin were routed in Osogbo, sent to the Alaafin and executed, the non Yorubas were released. Ilorin never was strong enough to take on Ibadan again. The Balogun Hausa of Ilorin with others later submitted under Oba Moma as their sovereign, Oba Moma was approved by the Alaafin and the Oyo princes and other Yoruba, they exchanged presents but as he warmed up to Ibadan, the Balogun Gambari, Ajikobi and others opposed him furiously and the man committed suicide in 1895, next to be crowned in 1896 was Sulayman Dan Aliyu, a member of Ajikobi, that was the one who signed the protection agreement in the custody of the present Ajikobi that he brandished in that newspaper interview but trust the Fulani supremacist, they will insist Oba Moma, Sulayman Dan Aliyu, Aminu Kano, Kwankwanso, MANDELA, Barrack Obama and even William the conqueror were all Fulbe. Despite that the Fulbe are a pitiable minority maybe not up to Ijaw if counted. That is amoral.

Again, the Emir of Ilorin named Gambari is a Yoruba man of Hausa descent as all Yoruba know. A man named Tapa is Nupe and a man named Gambari id Hausa descent and can never be Fulani but the Oba of Ilorin will revert to Afonja and Ajikobi very soon because it is their right and justice will be done.

9jacrip:


OK.

I have no interest in Ilorin but keep in mind if Nigeria were to implode today, Yoruba will take back that piece of shitty land.

Move along now, I am only reading the history of Ilorin and I thought my brother's input were very interesting and researched.

It is not a matter of taking back, From Southern Niger state in Jebba to the Atlantic is ile Kaaro Ojiire, to the West and North is our allies, the Bariba, farther West to Togi is Yoruba, Fon and Ewe, the Westernmost Yoruba city is Atakpame in Togo. All are Yoruba land being controlled by Yoruba, Bariba and Fon. The SW just happen to be the most populated.

lawani:


It is not a matter of taking back, From Southern Niger state in Jebba to the Atlantic is ile Kaaro Ojiire, to the West and North is our allies, the Bariba, farther West to Togi is Yoruba, Fon and Ewe, the Westernmost Yoruba city is Atakpame in Togo. All are Yoruba land being controlled by Yoruba, Bariba and Fon. The SW just happen to be the most populated.

I get your drift.

I used take back in the sense of the use of 'emir' and palace structure.