₦airaland Forum

9jacrip:
Ok sir.

Please recommend a bookstore in Lagos/Osun/Oyo where I can get it.

Thank you.

Ghost01:
This should be of help: www.cibng.org/cb_bookonline.asp?x_isn=9789048021&idcat=14

macof:
Actually it's your source - Samuel Johnson who tried to rewrite history
This is what happens when you let a reverend speak on yoruba history

Our history is deep and the perfect source should be the traditional institutions not so called scholars who aren't scholars at all


Bro. . IFE IS THE SPIRIT OF THE YORUBA, it's a sin to deform the throne of Oduduwa. ..

There's just so much falsehood in your post
1. The first person to be called Ooni was Adimu, and though his mother was a slave his father was Oduduwa. and he was the one taking care of all affairs of Ile-Ife that Oduduwa wasn't available to attend to
2. Adimu was the one who sent Oranmiyan to Bini. So he didn't become King when Oranmiyan went across the Niger. ..lemme ask you do you know why Oba of Benin covers his nose in public?
Here's my hypothesis. .Adimu means "one with congested nose" hence he must have covered his nose in public. . This is a simple act that was most likely taken to be royal tradition that became a thing for the Royal house of Bini... but of course if there's a better reason why the Omon'Oba covers his nose I'll love to know.
3. Oranmiyan didn't settle in "Oyomesi" but "OYO-ILE" . Oyomesi is the State council...its shocking that you don't know this
4. Oduduwa had so many sons nobody can categorically state a number, However I believe the one called Okanbi is same as Ogun. ..its also possible Okanbi was a totally different person all together.
Ogun was the first son of Oduduwa. .. Obanta, Orangun, Ajibogun Owabokun, Akinsale Elekole, Alaketu, Owa Ooye of Okemesi are just few of the other sons
5. Alake of Egbaland isn't directly from Ife but from Ketu. Olowu of Owu is not son of any Okanbi but son of Oduduwa's first daughter...his paternity is however still unclear(at least to the public)
6. Oranmiyan never met any slave on the Ife throne.. he met Obalufon Alayemore and challenged him to the throne. It was actually Alayemore who left because he didn't want bloodshed
7. It's Ajaka not Ajasa...
8. Lmao haven't you heard of the Nupe-Oyo, Nupe-Okun wars. .Yoruba have engaged the Nupe and other northerns notably fulani in Battle
9. The present day Ooni of Ile - Ife are descended from Olajamisan, son of Oramiyan when he was Ooni.

olawalepopoola:
Fake story! The Oonis aren't the true son of Oduduwa! He is a son of a slave that forced himself on the throne when Oramiyan travelled beyond the Niger and parts of south! Oramiyan finally settled in Oyomesi, which now forms the Oyo kingdom, which is headed by the Alaafin. Oduduwa had one son called Okanbi, who in turn had seven children, non belonging to the Ife royal families:
1. Alake of Egbaland
2. Oniketu of Ketu land
3. Orangun of Ila Orangun (Town of Bisi Akande)
4. The king of Ijesha (Town of Aregbesola)
5. Olowu of Owu (the town of ObJ)
6. Onisabe of Sabe
7. Onipopo
Omonoba of Benin was his grand child. Oramiyan left Ile-Ife, on coming back his slave had taken over his seat, he had to sacrifice it to avoid blood shed and headed towards the west. He was with the royal crown. His diviner had told him to settle down where his white slip (Ibi ti esin ti yo) and that is where he settled down. That is the source of the name Oyo. Oyo town of today was not was its ancient location. The were driven from Oyomesi due to war that engulfed them. Another important grandsons of Oduduwa and sons of Oramiyan are Sango and Ajasa! Ajasa married a Nupe woman and began a dynasty! Can you see why SW cannot fight Northerners! Sango relocated to the west but Ajasa preferred to stay back. For all who care to listen the present day Obas in Ile-Ife doesn't have blood affiliation with
Oduduwa! They were those on ground before the entry of Oduduwa. The are several rooms for several gods in the palace of Ooni, but one of those rooms can only be entered by the progeny of Oduduwa and not the Oonis.
DON'T REWRITE OUR HISTORY

Wyttcat:
You call yourself Yoruba with some knowledge of Yoruba history yet you don't know that anywhere you see the word 'Adimu' is the abbreviation of Adimula, but you have quickly gone ahead and linked it up with Benin. I hope others can see what I've been saying all along that you are not Yoruba. You may love Yoruba people and the culture and understand the language but, your main purpose is to find loopholes in Yoruba history and plant Benin in there, with the sole aim of rubbing off on undue credits from the Yoruba.

What these show is that you have studied Yoruba just like any foreign almost-there historian but, if it isn't, it wasn't, it ain't never gonna be.

macof:
and where in that piece did it appear I'm not aware that Adimu is Adimula? adimula is actually two words merged together. ..Adimu and Ola

whether you like it or not Yoruba, Edo and Igbo will be political united one day. .. I know you hate me and think I'm not yoruba for this but DEAL WITH IT!

Wyttcat:
Hehe! Typical, you'd rather confuse yourself further than give credit where it's due that you just learnt something from 9crib. Thank God the post is still there. Go back and see where 9jacrib corrected you. You had said Adimu meant decongested nose and linked it to why oba of Benin always covered his nose in public, when the tonal marks on Adimula is totally different from the nose you were talking about, and that right there made it clear that Yoruba is NOT your mother's tongue.

Yoruba cannot unite with the two most hateful tribes, believe it today, there are tribes Yoruba will unite with politically if Nigeria is still one, those two are not among.

We don't need to like each, all we need is to be truthful, that's the only thing that takes people far..

macof:
oh please shut up! even though I learn every time from him, there's nothing in that post of 9jacrip I haven't heard before. ...
... did you not see where it was stated " Here's my hypothesis" in a bid to answer the question - why does the Ooni and oba of Benin cover their nose in public?

you that your mother tongue is Yoruba what's the etymology of Adimula? ... please answer o... Ms. mother tongue, head of state of Yorubaland.


hateful?! have yoruba not shown some hate to other ethnic nations?
you say we can't be united, yet yoruba marry into those two ethnicities much more than any other. ... say another thing please

MrPresident1:
Oduduwa is a banner name, an ensign for a mass of ancient Israelites who arrived Ile-Ife, from a more advanced civilisation in the east, they conquered and assimilated the aboriginal tribes that they met on ground.

Oduduwa described as a woman (the mass of Israel in the Bible are described as one woman) is just an ensign, there was no person called Oduduwa. Revelation 12:14 describes how the woman fled into the wilderness.

The Bible story is the most consistent of the descriptions of the origin of Oduduwa who climbed down/fell from heaven by a chain.

Oduduwa is Judah.

macof:
and where in that piece did it appear I'm not aware that Adimu is Adimula? adimula is actually two words merged together. ..Adimu and Ola

whether you like it or not Yoruba, Edo and Igbo will be political united one day. .. I know you hate me and think I'm not yoruba for this but DEAL WITH IT!

OBAGADAFFI:
It doesn't connote ethnic unity.

Their are limits to Mixed-blood in every culture.

And since you aren't Yoruba why are you insisting on your own version of Yoruba history?

9jacrip:
The emboldened though, I wonder if it will ever happen for the benefit of the south.

macof:
I know but it's a step. look around, if Yorubas can tolerate others to the extent of marrying them. .. I don't see how the offspring of such families cannot build bridges to unite the ethnic groups

macof:
Yes, for the benefit of the entire South we need Political unity

9jacrip:
Wow!

This is the best you can come up with as 'history', despite your parents' hardwork for funds to send you to school in other for you to be able to think independently in order to cotribute to knowledge for the advancemdnt of humanity?

I hope this is the history of your baba nla baba e of your idile in wherever the Bleep in Southwest you're from.

Macof abeg see your guy, I died seeing the emboldened

MrPresident1:
Oduduwa is Judah , rest in peace

9jacrip:
Olodo

9jacrip:
Wow!

This is the best you can come up with as 'history', despite your parents' hardwork for funds to send you to school in other for you to be able to think independently in order to cotribute to knowledge for the advancemdnt of humanity?

I hope this is the history of your baba nla baba e of your idile in wherever the Bleep in Southwest you're from.

Macof abeg see your guy, I died seeing the emboldened

https://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/shivers.gif

9jacrip:
Yep.

Bro abeg, do you have the picture of myself & my uncle I uploaded many months back when you opened a thread on Obatala?

My pc crashed & I'm on a photo recovery mission.



Abeg help your aburo.

9jacrip:
You're welcome sir.

Some people claim Obalufon 1 & 2 were Oduduwa's sons which means Obamakin, Ogun were Obatala's people. I don't know if this is in that book.

Obalufons ogbogbodinrin (Obalufon alayemore's father) factually is part of Obatala's group. Obalufon shrine is around Igbo Itapa. Infact, in my compound we used to have Ilesun, Ilale & Balea (Balea is the line of Obalufon descendants). Their house is called Ile Balea.

But I wonder why some people tag him & his son with Oduduwa

Do you have this in the book? Besides I would love to get a copy of the book.

macof:
Obalufon or Ifon

macof:
I'm so sorry, I never saved it

macof:
He's a black Hebrew Israelite. ..abi how do they call them sef? it's his religion. I don't blame the guy at all

9jacrip:
Olufon founded Ifon.

Olufon has a compound in Ife where he was before moving to found Ifon.

Obalufon's house is called Ile Balea, they used to be the 3rd arm of Ile Olorisa; I am yet to find out what happened to them - maybe they have another temple elsewhere because I still saw Obalara (Obalufon Clan King) last week while I was in Ife.

I've attached a document snapshot below; I suppose the post was just a representative post sent from Obalufon compound to mine.

macof:
oh, I meant to say Olufon

it's well known that Obalara is of Obalufon and I know that the temple is at Igbo Obalara as mentioned during the Ooni's coronation but I never knew it as " Ile Balea".
I was surprised to see you claim Balea line of Olorisa is also descended from Obalufon. I thought you meant Olufon

that is probably it @bold

waoh in the snapshot, I see titles I've never heard of

9jacrip:
Those are not just titles, they are names of Obatala's children who actually lived and were put in charge of certain aspects of Obatala followership which the present title-holders handle.

Those titles are more; some are strictly for omo-ile while some can be given to non omo-ile. Incase you want to initiate Obatala, I may have a title for you , a number of your people from Ekiti do come to the compound and some hold titles.

Igbo Obalara is the same as Ile Balea.

I will ask 'Loja (Obalesun) and post a screen shot of his response on whatsapp here.

macof:
I want to be initiated in Ogun ....Obatala too get ewo