frank317:


U must be new here ... that nonsense u displayed for us to read have been long debunked.
Just one question... define DELIVERY as used in the illustration above...
Again, did they have a holy book in the womb... I mean a book where the almighty mother promised heaven and earth.

Lets assume one baby was alright and the other one was badly disfigured.... will life after DELIVERY ensure their perfection? Do u think it would be reasonable for the disfigured baby to expect a perfect life after DELIVERY?

Can u expand ur illustration by inputting the promises from the almighty mother rather than just sticking to the babies conversation?

NB: don't give me opportunity to pick ur brain most atheist here think deeper than u can ever go.

frank317:


Perhaps his asking questions about God and concern that the blind boy didn't get healed is part of God's plan too.

I really don't get your point... where does God cone in and where does he not?

A boy didn't get healed after prayer.... his parents are still sad and even the blind boy is sad... and someone is feeling bad and askin questions about it. You sit in the comfort of ur home and said the op shuold stop questioning something that gave him concern. He should go and drink zobo and groundnut... the boys case is part of God's plan.

Yet even if the concerned OP gets money and donate for the boys surgery after prayer didn't work... it's also part of God's plan....

Its a win win situation for your God right? He should have then shut up and not make promises he can't keep in the Bible

seguun:
Sadly does it mean all of you ( geesampower, frank317 and lepasharon) pretend like you didn't read what I explained about the gift of intelligence to man from God?


Prayer is needed to express our wishes to God....yet we still have to work towards whatever our wishes in life are. After much struggle (physically and mentally) and prayer, whatever we get is exactly what we are meant to get. That is part of the complexities of life.


It doesn't make any sense to build your belief in God on direct intervention (miracles-like what you guys fantasize) from him.Also far more ridiculous is to know that for a fact an ordinary mobile phone can never evolve on itself. Not to talk of a far more complex human and the entire galaxy.


Actually your former belief failed you doesn't mean God does not exist.

seguun:


Maybe you skipped this part of my post:
"in the case of a boy without anus, people living withdeadly diseases, and so on, it is our responsibility
to make sure we provide adequate medical help to
them. after all our efforts, whatever happens my
friend, is meant have happened."

frank317:


Just one question again... even if there was life after DELIVERY, why do u think it is wrong for the second baby to doubt considering the fact that both babies have no prove of life after DELIVERY?

iamphill:


Read this and reflect on it.....Have a great day bro.........

In a mother’s womb were two babies. One asked the other: “Do you believe in life after delivery?” The other replied, “Why, of course. There has to be something after delivery. Maybe we are here to prepare ourselves for what we will be later.”

The second said, “I don’t know, but there will be more light than here. Maybe we will walk with our legs and eat from our mouths. Maybe we will have other senses that we can’t understand now.”

The first replied, “That is absurd. Walking is impossible. And eating with our mouths? Ridiculous! The umbilical cord supplies nutrition and everything we need. But the umbilical cord is so short. Life after delivery is to be logically excluded.”

God does exist because you cant see him doesnt mean he doesnt exist. I know you are smart and you will try and poke holes in this write-up, note am not contesting your belief with you, am just suggesting you reflect deeply on this. Cheers Bro

HardMirror:


GOD DAMN IT! Were are the intellectual christians. I can't be spending precious time answering dimwiits. So you think this your mumu story will make us reason with you.
Ok let's break the story down?
Babies can't talk or have capacity to research. For a baby to claim there is life outside the womb, HOW DID THE BABY ARRIVE AT SUCH CONCLUSION?



so without evidence or ability for complex thoughts this baby clearly described life out side the womb? Just by guessing? So we are only guessing what God looks like and how life is in heaven?
Oh wonderful.



even the first baby is a dimwitt so the virgi.na of the mother is just a few centimeters away and he has not explored it and yet the 2 of them could be arguing?

Really stuppid analogy.

LOL



Let me ask you why did the baby not know that gwagwa was also waiting for them outside the womb?



Since we are here to tell silly stories let me tell you one that may sound silly but is FACT! That you don't believe it does not mean it is not true.



Let me tell you something you don't know. Gwagwa created Jehova and in the last day of the last day he is going to judge jehova along with his followers. Hope you are ready to face the Great Gwagwa, the creator of Jehova and existence? Just like the second twin in your story, I am informing you that there is life even after heaven were alll of us including Jehova will all bow to the Great Gwagwa.

iamphill:




Just listen to mysellf son clap for my Educated Illiteracy. Trying to exhibit more of my Ignorance. Dude kindly shut that Hole in my face, No allow God take up my case son. And besides the post wasnt meant for me. I am not intelligent enough to process it and respond intelligently.

Too bad an uneducated dolt trying to claim knowledge, claiming i know what i dont know which is glaring and even hiding under verbose retorts to sound intelligent .......lol....dude SMH.... Bro i am d real definition of comedy....lol...........

urahara:

iamphill:
Really stupid analogy u got there......lol

HardMirror:

Exactly!
Now you see how silly your analogy is.
You can do better. Tell us why you believe God exists and make sure it's not something the Great Gwagwa can disprove.

iamphill:



I meant Silly Analogy you got with all your Gwagwa stuff

iamphill:


Is that the best you got? Mirror effect abi? you can do better than this my son.......LOl
I must confess i find this amusing

iamphill:


Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion so the second baby doubting is not wrong. But is the baby right doubting what he/she cant comprehend?

Life is always like that, Joy wouldnt feel so good if not for pain, in essence anything negative there is a positive (vice-versa).
As we have believers there are bound to be unbelievers too. if not the equation will not be complete...... so the baby is right in doubting life after delivery

HardMirror:

Exactly!

The Gwagwa story is just like your twin story. They don't need to be logical or provable. I claim Gwagwa created Jehova, Your baby claims there is life outside the womb without evidence, you claim Jehova exists without evidence.

I am enjoying this.

urahara:



The hilarious thing about u is that for ur mind u think u sound intelligent.

iamphill:
Guess you came out of your mums womb or did you drop from the sky? Guess you know there is life outside the womb this is enough evidence.

But that your gwagawa story sha........lol.....Dude we need to talk seriously. Am not trying to make you stop being an atheist though, can i get your contact prolly whatsapp

urahara:
Oga hardmirror Who jehova and your gwa gwa don epp sef

iamphill:
Guess you came out of your mums womb or did you drop from the sky? Guess you know there is life outside the womb this is enough evidence.

But that your gwagawa story sha........lol.....Dude we need to talk seriously. Am not trying to make you stop being an atheist though, can i get your contact prolly whatsapp

iamphill:


Am sure thats your thought about me son. You said it all need i say more....hope i didnt touch a nerve? dont take this personal douchebag ?

frank317:


Listen to ur self... u believe God has given man all the intelligence he needs yet u think prayer is needed for man to express his wish to God.

Pls how reasonable is the above.

'prayer is needed for man to express his wish to God'
This statement is like saying... ' prayer is needed for man to pray to God"

Tell me why man need to express his wish to God when u hve concluded it's irrelevant...since we have all the intelligence we need to better our lives and God's will must also be done despite our prayers.

seguun:


I never said prayer is irrelevant...prayers apart from its spiritual angle, is also an important psychological motivations we need as humans. Now add that to all the already sleepless nights a student passes through while reading for instance, there, you have a very high spirited and happy student. I don't want to talk about the spiritual aspects yet since you seem not to believe in spirituality. However your disbelief in spirituality doesn't make a supreme supernatural force non existent.An animal doesn't pray for instance, so its all goes back to the issue of this gift of consciousness from God.

I tell you my friend, what we are currently experiencing in the world today will be a child's play if Atheism is to be the popular belief...

seguun:


I never said prayer is irrelevant...prayers apart from its spiritual angle, is also an important psychological motivations we need as humans. Now add that to all the already sleepless nights a student passes through while reading for instance, there, you have a very high spirited and happy student. I don't want to talk about the spiritual aspects yet since you seem not to believe in spirituality. However your disbelief in spirituality doesn't make a supreme supernatural force non existent.An animal doesn't pray for instance, so its all goes back to the issue of this gift of consciousness from God.

I tell you my friend, what we are currently experiencing in the world today will be a child's play if Atheism is to be the popular belief...

swaggzo:





ALL HAIL OUR ALMIGHTY TOMATO! !!

frank317:


Ok... now I understand u.

Good, u cannot force me. But don't think ordinarily I should know? Forcing is even going to far.... u should even tell me in the first place. If God exists... everyone should know... have u seen anyone preaching that the sun exists and give us light by the day?

HardMirror:

You are yet to tell us how you know all this. Just tell me how you know all this shikena

swaggzo:


HE'S GONNA RUN AWAY RIGHT NOW

francis247:
Everyone knows that God exists but some would not accept it just like one may be wrong about something or may do something wrong but would not accept it. He is a spirit and everything about him is spirit and life. He is not meant to be seen with the physical eyes. No eyes can see Him and live. He will not reveal Himself physically in other for you to believe He exists. He has standards and He's not going to change them for you, me or anyone else.

francis247:
Why should I tell you how when you've refused to understand the things of the spirit? By the way, haven't you ever had a premonition? If there were no God, would you care to explain the creation of not just man but this planet and everything other thing in it? The mineral resources, the natural resources and other mysteries surrounding the creation, existence, and sustenance of this world?