francis247:
Why should I tell you how when you've refused to understand the things of the spirit? By the way, haven't you ever had a premonition? If there were no God, would you care to explain the creation of not just man but this planet and everything other thing in it? The mineral resources, the natural resources and other mysteries surrounding the creation, existence, and sustenance of this world?

He should explain the creation of the world or planet to u? And start all over another controversy? Do you expect an explanation really? Do u actually think any man has explanation to the beginning of the existence of everything?
Wasn't this question the reason for your God delusion in the first place? Now you want him to come up with another nonsense?
So up till now, it has not downed on you that no one has a full knowledge on how everything came to be?
You are yet to clarify how your God actually created everything and u are requesting for another explanation... be easy on urself bro... no one knows anything... not even ur pastor.

HardMirror:


Are you through displaying your stupidiity?

No LeT's GET DOWN TO BUSINESS!

This was on front page today. A BOY BORN WITHOUT ANUS! www.nairaland.com/3091779/baby-born-without-anus-jos

Open the thread and see the stuppid prayers christians are praying there. Even saying God has a purpose for the child not having an anus.


Please kindly explain to us. If God exists why should he allow a child to be born without anus? I actually joined this discussion with the erroneous belief that I would be facing a set of intelligent and objective people but I can now see vividly that your objective here is to impose your failed and
1. Are we supposed to pray for the boy?

2. Are we supposed to take the boy for surgery?

The correct answer is obvious.

So if God exists why create a boy without anus ony for doctors to be the ones putting effort to fix the boy.

Note this is a very simple surgery for doctors to perform, yet TOTALLY IMPOSSiBLE FOR PRAYER TO FIX.

How long shall we lie to our selves?

Now can you shut the fvck up!!! This thread is not for stupiid people!

At this point it only makes sense to open a church and take advantage of you fooools.

I am so pissed of right now with your level of stvpidity.

I actually joined this discussion with the erroneous belief that I would be facing a set of intelligent and objective people but I can now see vividly that your objective here is to impose your failed and distorted idea on equally feeble minded people and this can be confirmed through the use of vulgar words to discourage those who are wiser than you from expressing their opinions. I quite understand what you are doing and i know where its coming from, but let me shock you, your evil intent we never succeed because of people like us who have real and long lasting relationship with God, we will frustrate your plans through every means possible, no wonder you couldnt hold on to God when you had the opportunity because you were never eal and true to God, all u care about is miracles at the detriment of relationship. So stop deceiving us with your caricature evangelism, we know your type....... HOWEVER, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, JESUS IS LORD!!! you cant do anything about it......

I've follow'd this thread for a while now & I have learnt few things concerning religious beliefs. I'm still a bit curious (confused) about some arguments you guys engage in tho; If atheists don't believe in a god (or God's) existence, I dont see any reason why you should view a religious person as dumb or fool. They believe there is a superior being who they must obey to make heaven but atheists believe thats BS and its fake. In as much atheists dont believe there is a god, Why not just let every xtians/muslim et al., be (they are ignorant, right?). You were once a believer and eventually knew smthing better. Why not just hope they get to that point u changed for good.
Personally, i think one should try to play smart. If you believe God in your lifetime and u eventually get to heaven or hell, thats 3 points out of a 3, if u believe God but at the end, u only got rotten and benefited soil fertility, thats a draw (that way, God didnt exist nd u got nothing to lose IMO),

Anjelus:
I actually joined this discussion with the erroneous belief that I would be facing a set of intelligent and objective people but I can now see vividly that your objective here is to impose your failed and distorted idea on equally feeble minded people and this can be confirmed through the use of vulgar words to discourage those who are wiser than you from expressing their opinions. I quite understand what you are doing and i know where its coming from, but let me shock you, your evil intent we never succeed because of people like us who have real and long lasting relationship with God, we will frustrate your plans through every means possible, no wonder you couldnt hold on to God when you had the opportunity because you were never eal and true to God, all u care about is miracles at the detriment of relationship. So stop deceiving us with your caricature evangelism, we know your type....... HOWEVER, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, JESUS IS LORD!!! you cant do anything about it......

Ehya sorry. I only answer stuupid contributions the way I replied yours. There are many matured and intelligent christians that I have answered appropriately.
Whether you like it or not Gwagwa is Lord above all other Lords (including Jesus)

shurlar50:
I've follow'd this thread for a while now & I have learnt few things concerning religious beliefs. I'm still a bit curious (confused) about some arguments you guys engage in tho; If atheists don't believe in a god (or God's) existence, I dont see any reason why you should view a religious person as dumb or fool. They believe there is a superior being who they must obey to make heaven but atheists believe thats BS and its fake. In as much atheists dont believe there is a god, Why not just let every xtians/muslim et al., be (they are ignorant, right?). You were once a believer and eventually knew smthing better. Why not just hope they get to that point u changed for good.
Personally, i think one should try to play smart. If you believe God in your lifetime and u eventually get to heaven or hell, thats 3 points out of a 3, if u believe God but at the end, u only got rotten and benefited soil fertility, thats a draw (that way, God didnt exist nd u got nothing to lose IMO),

Ok point noted.
But won't keep me from challenging the norm and raising people's curiosity, that is all I want to achieve. In the end everyone decides.
There was a lovely lady that commented several times earlier. Love that lady. She read thru and posted my message was not for her we laughed about it and she left. She remains a christian (most likely). But for those giving silly analogies I will call a spade a spade.

Oh there's a part 2 to this? i don miss oh. You late na, HardMirror begging me to please show on page4. Anyways i no vex as a pikin of God na. Someone my notifications didn't tell me on time, was just reading through my mentions hoping i didn't skip anything important then saw this.

HardMirror:
[size=32pt] PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THESE DETAILS AND JUDGE FOR YOURSELF [/size]
Cc. Gombs

here is a true life story of a little boy whose eyes were gorged out by ritualists

Kindly open the link www.nairaland.com/3072881/zaria-boy-whose-eyes-gouged

Pay close attention to the comments of christians and muslims on the thread. What do you notice?

1. You notice they feel real bad for the boy and angry at the ritualist. Very good!

2. You notice the pray for the Boy. Wonderful!

3. BUT you notice NO ONE IS PRAYING THAT GOD SHOULD RESTORE THE BLIND BOY'S EYES why? Lol. Their sub conscious knows for a FACT THAT THEIR GOD CANNOT RESTORE THE BOYS EYES!
Yet they claim God is a God of miracles. Yet they claim nothing is impossible for God! Lol

How long do we want to lie to ourselves?

Gombs, Joagbaje, I am not rich enough to pay for artificial eyes for the poor lad. And artificial eyes is still in research and development stage, not yet available to the public. BUT God does miracles for free is that not true?
So please can you link up with this boy and heal him in Jesus name? Or take hime to pastor Chis or Adeboye or any of our so called men of God?

This is the time you begin to hear tactical excuses like. Don't test God. God knows why he allowed the boy to be blind, blah blah blah.

But deep down we know the truth. You can't do it because deep down you know it's all lies.

Where are the noise makers. Princewell2012 analice abi what's her name? Image123 the ranter?
Action speaks louder than all the noise you are making here. Please show.

There are many things to say. One thing is this, Healing is a GIFT. The gifts of the Spirit are GIFTS, not rights. Among the gifts of the Spirit, we have the GIFT of healing.
1Co 12:9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
1Co 12:10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:

Like i have told you before, the gift(s) of healing is as rare as Smith Wigglesworth. Of the nine gifts, the common ones are Word of knowledge, faith, prophecy, and then MAYBE discerning of spirits. The others are rare. They are GIFTS so you obviously should not be asking ME why they are rare. One point though is that if we really really need or ask for them, we will get them. It is someone with the gifts of healing or working of miracles that you can take such a situation to and be almost certain of getting your expected result. You may be lucky with others like a prayer of faith even without the baptism, or gifts like faith, word of knowledge etc. What what would get you what you are asking for easily is someone with the gift of healing, a rare one i must say.
That been said, the real issue is not the healing of the boy, or any miracle for that matter. Historically, people who have seen many miracles are not necessarily the closest to God. In fact, they are the most punished and strictly judged by God. The people of Israel in the wilderness saw all sorts of miracles, they still failed themselves and God. Same thing the generation that Jesus lived with, who went on to crucify Him. So, don't think God's hands are itching Him to work any miracle for you in that sense. The primary provision God has made is for our salvation, our forgiveness and deliverance from sin. Jesus says and the Word of God affirms that there is tribulation and sorrow in the world, and that until we get to that better place and time when God will wipe away sorrow and tears from eyes, you can expect this world to see such sorry states.
The good news and experience is that we can still please God despite challenges or no challenges. i'm not sure if it was you that i was telling about the paraplegic Annie J Flint. Her sorry challenges did not stop her from believing God. Here are some words from her popular hymn.

He giveth more grace as our burdens grow greater,
He sendeth more strength as our labors increase;
To added afflictions He addeth His mercy,
To multiplied trials He multiplies peace.

His love has no limits, His grace has no measure,
His power no boundary known unto men;
For out of His infinite riches in Jesus
He giveth, and giveth, and giveth again.

i want to believe you have heard about contemporary Nick Vujicic born without arms and legs yet serving God happily more than many that have arms and legs. Not to forget the great Fanny Jane crosby, who died at 95years old. Fanny wrote popular hymns like "Pass Me Not, O Gentle Saviour", "Blessed Assurance", "Jesus Is Tenderly Calling You Home", "Praise Him, Praise Him", "Rescue the Perishing", and "To God Be the Glory". Some 'medical' treatment when she was young left her blind forever. Yet she was the most inspiring of them all. Nobody has an excuse. God healing or not healing your friend does not prove anything.

Ruq:
It's obvious majority of the atheists in here are just like their theists counterpart, the theists naturally think they're saving atheists from the infinite abyss by persuading them that God loves them and wants them saved while newly 'enlightened minds' (atheists) take it upon themselves to liberate people from their shackles of illusion. Y'all have something similar, atheist think the world be a better place if we all could dump religion, theists think if y'all could accept the teachings of God the world would be peaceful, shows everyone dreams of an utopia.
One thing is obvious y'all both bullies, but atheists on this forum appear to be heartless, you're no different from those who mentally torture depressed individuals with suicide taunts and yet you all think you're helping humanity by liberating what theists believe to be true despite not being sure if their god is real. Plus it does already appear a lot are certain that God isn't real, where are your open mindedness?.
I'm not going to lie I enjoy the sarcasms you involve in exposing what you term as myths but it still doesn't mean you aren't heartless, I prolly might have said things myself that warrants my head on a guillotine. The way you all go about it shows you don't even care about the mental state of those you claim you want to free. A quick look of the posts of atheists here shows you why blasphemy was grave back then and why they wanted them silenced by all means.

Majority of you atheists when you argue about the existence of God you appear as persons who are really concerned about humanity which is a wonderful feat. It's been an overflogged issue when y'all come up with why these Gods can't regrow an amputees limb, why he won't restore the little boy's eyes, how god is a wicked, vengeful, misogynistic being. True, an omnipotent god should be capable of all these, this points that majority of atheists are empathetic about their fellow human it also shows you lot hold onto an utopian view of the world despite knowing its an impossible reality but your responses show that we all expect heaven on earth, but the theists have promised you this utopian world somewhere in the metaphysical realm but yet you still go ahead to debunk them accusing them of how silly the idea is. True it is, because no matter how perfect the world is we need a negligible amount of imperfection to appreciate perfection.
Then again it's also an over flogged issue when you talk about these religious institutions and their belief systems and how wrong they are and contradictory their God is, yes we seem to have come to the conclusion that the bible/quran were written by mere men who were selfish, bias, delusional and power drunk, I'm not disputing. But anyone who has read the bible and quran will no doubt feel awkward about the tales in it but those books are indeed powerful and they're beyond psychology far beyond it, look at the years it took Sigmund to come up with psychoanalysis which gave more ground to understanding how the we think they're lies. There are a lot of universal truths in those books which will hold as long as the universe keeps expanding. If observation is regarded as an impotant part of science I can boldly say these books are scientific books in the psychological field but then again I could be wrong. So now ask yourselves as it has mostly be claimed that these books where written by mere men because it appears to be. Couldn't it be men like you who were also concerned about humanity and how to make them happy after observing a lot created these concepts based on what they could as the time just as science keeps doing it's best in these times.

Cloudgoddess I must say your biological knowledge is something I admire. Your recent explanation on evolution and how we likely came about is grand, sometimes I forget that it's actually a theory. You lucidly explained in one of your posts of how the current man is no different from an animal but thanks to evolution which has given room for more brain to create and perform complex abilities giving room for creation of language, maths, tools, social groups and man's journey to becoming a higher animal. I think in there you alluded to why prehistoric man could form religion and make sense of it.
Now you and I would agree that there are still animals among us as a matter of fact we are outnumbered by them but then you're angry and hell bent on ridding people of their beliefs of religion thinking the world would be a better place without it, you just like every other atheist in here do not realize y'all are priveleged on a big scale very privileged. The people you're trying show the light aren't the ones who need it, majority of the world lives as if there's no god already. Like I once said, when push comes to shove and it will happen no matter how long it takes push will always come to shove these atheists will create God all over again when we go back to our beast nature that we naturally are.

Plus if you understand the God concept to a point you'll acknowledge those books are just too fuckin complete even the contradictions aren't lies just as they say every prayer answers. I use to think those who believe in God were wrong but they aren't it may be false reality and all but they aren't wrong for believing and they aren't totally stupid either for believing. I cannot even build the courage to tell my sis, mum, that there's no one answering those prayers but still I could be wrong, as a matter of fact I'd give up anything to admit that I am. And I do mindfully hope that I'm the one who is wrong about God, it's still 50/50 fairytale or not they could be right also. Even if I find myself in hell, I'm sure I will be able to stage a protest.

Sir, you just earned my respect

kolawaxxy:


Sir, you just earned my respect

So why did the poster you referred to.earn your respect? Is it because he is advocating that atheists on Nairaland stop taunting theists?

It is difficult to have a respectful discourse with a theist when such a person promptly starts the discussion with only a fool says there is no God. After this statement, it's usually no holds barred from there on

GeneralShepherd:


So why did the poster you referred to.earn your respect? Is it because he is advocating that atheists on Nairaland stop taunting theists?

It is difficult to have a respectful discourse with a theist when such a person promptly starts the discussion with only a fool says there is no God. After this statement, it's usually no holds barred from there on

I get you. I'm no theist either. One of his points is that they shouldn't be condemned for their ignorance as most atheiats here do unintentionally

Anjelus:
I actually joined this discussion with the erroneous belief that I would be facing a set of intelligent and objective people but I can now see vividly that your objective here is to impose your failed and distorted idea on equally feeble minded people and this can be confirmed through the use of vulgar words to discourage those who are wiser than you from expressing their opinions. I quite understand what you are doing and i know where its coming from, but let me shock you, your evil intent we never succeed because of people like us who have real and long lasting relationship with God, we will frustrate your plans through every means possible, no wonder you couldnt hold on to God when you had the opportunity because you were never eal and true to God, all u care about is miracles at the detriment of relationship. So stop deceiving us with your caricature evangelism, we know your type....... HOWEVER, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, JESUS IS LORD!!! you cant do anything about it......

Loooool[b][/b]


E wo. Omo yaba left .


The bolded got me laffin seriously


Dont worry my son weda u like it or not .





. .............


.
.............. If u lyk bash ur head on transformer...






. ........... If u lyk cry froom naw till 2ma0




..... . the fact remains that one day..




..!..................... You , yahweh , and jesus will bow before the almighty gwa gwa u made heaven and earth

geesampower:

Very simple. Femicyrus what can be universally accepted as proof that God created us for his pleasure. I don't know why people complicate simple things.

the same dust (soil) used to create a goat was used to create you.
He could have created you a rabbit in the wild. maybe you will appreciate God each time you survive a hunt by hyenas

femicyrus:

the same dust (soil) used to create a goat was used to create you.
He could have created you a rabbit in the wild. maybe you will appreciate God each time you survive a hunt by hyenas

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Na wetin be dis

HardMirror:

Ehya sorry. I only answer stuupid contributions the way I replied yours. There are many matured and intelligent christians that I have answered appropriately.
Whether you like it or not Gwagwa is Lord above all other Lords (including Jesus)

bros, I just lookup gwagwa on the Internet. i am surprised it did not exist!!!
except gwagwalada in abuja Nigeria.
you forsake God that created heaven and earth for gwagwalada based god. smh

Ruq:
It's obvious majority of the atheists in here are just like their theists counterpart, the theists naturally think they're saving atheists from the infinite abyss by persuading them that God loves them and wants them saved while newly 'enlightened minds' (atheists) take it upon themselves to liberate people from their shackles of illusion. Y'all have something similar, atheist think the world be a better place if we all could dump religion, theists think if y'all could accept the teachings of God the world would be peaceful, shows everyone dreams of an utopia.
One thing is obvious y'all both bullies, but atheists on this forum appear to be heartless, you're no different from those who mentally torture depressed individuals with suicide taunts and yet you all think you're helping humanity by liberating what theists believe to be true despite not being sure if their god is real. Plus it does already appear a lot are certain that God isn't real, where are your open mindedness?.
I'm not going to lie I enjoy the sarcasms you involve in exposing what you term as myths but it still doesn't mean you aren't heartless, I prolly might have said things myself that warrants my head on a guillotine. The way you all go about it shows you don't even care about the mental state of those you claim you want to free. A quick look of the posts of atheists here shows you why blasphemy was grave back then and why they wanted them silenced by all means.

Majority of you atheists when you argue about the existence of God you appear as persons who are really concerned about humanity which is a wonderful feat. It's been an overflogged issue when y'all come up with why these Gods can't regrow an amputees limb, why he won't restore the little boy's eyes, how god is a wicked, vengeful, misogynistic being. True, an omnipotent god should be capable of all these, this points that majority of atheists are empathetic about their fellow human it also shows you lot hold onto an utopian view of the world despite knowing its an impossible reality but your responses show that we all expect heaven on earth, but the theists have promised you this utopian world somewhere in the metaphysical realm but yet you still go ahead to debunk them accusing them of how silly the idea is. True it is, because no matter how perfect the world is we need a negligible amount of imperfection to appreciate perfection.
Then again it's also an over flogged issue when you talk about these religious institutions and their belief systems and how wrong they are and contradictory their God is, yes we seem to have come to the conclusion that the bible/quran were written by mere men who were selfish, bias, delusional and power drunk, I'm not disputing. But anyone who has read the bible and quran will no doubt feel awkward about the tales in it but those books are indeed powerful and they're beyond psychology far beyond it, look at the years it took Sigmund to come up with psychoanalysis which gave more ground to understanding how the we think they're lies. There are a lot of universal truths in those books which will hold as long as the universe keeps expanding. If observation is regarded as an impotant part of science I can boldly say these books are scientific books in the psychological field but then again I could be wrong. So now ask yourselves as it has mostly be claimed that these books where written by mere men because it appears to be. Couldn't it be men like you who were also concerned about humanity and how to make them happy after observing a lot created these concepts based on what they could as the time just as science keeps doing it's best in these times.

Cloudgoddess I must say your biological knowledge is something I admire. Your recent explanation on evolution and how we likely came about is grand, sometimes I forget that it's actually a theory. You lucidly explained in one of your posts of how the current man is no different from an animal but thanks to evolution which has given room for more brain to create and perform complex abilities giving room for creation of language, maths, tools, social groups and man's journey to becoming a higher animal. I think in there you alluded to why prehistoric man could form religion and make sense of it.
Now you and I would agree that there are still animals among us as a matter of fact we are outnumbered by them but then you're angry and hell bent on ridding people of their beliefs of religion thinking the world would be a better place without it, you just like every other atheist in here do not realize y'all are priveleged on a big scale very privileged. The people you're trying show the light aren't the ones who need it, majority of the world lives as if there's no god already. Like I once said, when push comes to shove and it will happen no matter how long it takes push will always come to shove these atheists will create God all over again when we go back to our beast nature that we naturally are.

Plus if you understand the God concept to a point you'll acknowledge those books are just too fuckin complete even the contradictions aren't lies just as they say every prayer answers. I use to think those who believe in God were wrong but they aren't it may be false reality and all but they aren't wrong for believing and they aren't totally stupid either for believing. I cannot even build the courage to tell my sis, mum, that there's no one answering those prayers but still I could be wrong, as a matter of fact I'd give up anything to admit that I am. And I do mindfully hope that I'm the one who is wrong about God, it's still 50/50 fairytale or not they could be right also. Even if I find myself in hell, I'm sure I will be able to stage a protest.

it takes a genius to be this sacarstic

femicyrus:


bros, I just lookup gwagwa on the Internet. i am surprised it did not exist!!!
except gwagwalada in abuja Nigeria.
you forsake God that created heaven and earth for gwagwalada based god. smh

So you think you can find the God that created God on the internet? You obviously lack understanding of high spiritual things.
Just like you don't expect us to understand or find your God with our logical reasoning, so is it with Gwagwa, you need to be at a high spiritual enlightenment to know the Great Gwagwa

HardMirror:

So you think you can find the God that created God on the internet? You obviously lack understanding of high spiritual things.
Just like you don't expect us to understand or find your God with our logical reasoning, so is it with Gwagwa, you need to be at a high spiritual enlightenment to know the Great Gwagwa

You forgot to mention the fasting and self flagellation required.

urahara:



Loooool[b][/b]


E wo. Omo yaba left .


The bolded got me laffin seriously


Dont worry my son weda u like it or not .





. .............


.
.............. If u lyk bash ur head on transformer...






. ........... If u lyk cry froom naw till 2ma0




..... . the fact remains that one day..




..!..................... You , yahweh , and jesus will bow before the almighty gwa gwa u made heaven and earth

The thread has turned to comedy central and guess what?





















































































I am loving it

PastorAIO:


You forgot to mention the fasting and self flagellation required.

Pastor Ayo what type of pastor are you to encourage mockery that is going on here? Bia be very carefull

HardMirror:

Pastor Ayo what type of pastor are you to encourage mockery that is going on here? Bia be very carefull

it been a very long time since i heard that question: What kind of pastor are you?

femicyrus:


bros, I just lookup gwagwa on the Internet. i am surprised it did not exist!!!
except gwagwalada in abuja Nigeria.
you forsake God that created heaven and earth for gwagwalada based god. smh

Hahahahahaha hahahaha lwkmd

femicyrus:

the same dust (soil) used to create a goat was used to create you.
He could have created you a rabbit in the wild. maybe you will appreciate God each time you survive a hunt by hyenas

What?

You should have shut up when u know u have nothing to say...what's with embarrassing urself with this nonsense?

GeneralShepherd:


So why did the poster you referred to.earn your respect? Is it because he is advocating that atheists on Nairaland stop taunting theists?

It is difficult to have a respectful discourse with a theist when such a person promptly starts the discussion with only a fool says there is no God. After this statement, it's usually no holds barred from there on

Exactly!
Sometimes I just intentionally give them a taste of their medicine. Respect is reciprocal

Image123:
Oh there's a part 2 to this? i don miss oh. You late na, HardMirror begging me to please show on page4. Anyways i no vex as a pikin of God na. Someone my notifications didn't tell me on time, was just reading through my mentions hoping i didn't skip anything important then saw this.




There are many things to say. One thing is this, Healing is a GIFT. The gifts of the Spirit are GIFTS, not rights. Among the gifts of the Spirit, we have the GIFT of healing.
1Co 12:9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
1Co 12:10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:

Like i have told you before, the gift(s) of healing is as rare as Smith Wigglesworth. Of the nine gifts, the common ones are Word of knowledge, faith, prophecy, and then MAYBE discerning of spirits. The others are rare. They are GIFTS so you obviously should not be asking ME why they are rare. One point though is that if we really really need or ask for them, we will get them. It is someone with the gifts of healing or working of miracles that you can take such a situation to and be almost certain of getting your expected result. You may be lucky with others like a prayer of faith even without the baptism, or gifts like faith, word of knowledge etc. What what would get you what you are asking for easily is someone with the gift of healing, a rare one i must say.
That been said, the real issue is not the healing of the boy, or any miracle for that matter. Historically, people who have seen many miracles are not necessarily the closest to God. In fact, they are the most punished and strictly judged by God. The people of Israel in the wilderness saw all sorts of miracles, they still failed themselves and God. Same thing the generation that Jesus lived with, who went on to crucify Him. So, don't think God's hands are itching Him to work any miracle for you in that sense. The primary provision God has made is for our salvation, our forgiveness and deliverance from sin. Jesus says and the Word of God affirms that there is tribulation and sorrow in the world, and that until we get to that better place and time when God will wipe away sorrow and tears from eyes, you can expect this world to see such sorry states.
The good news and experience is that we can still please God despite challenges or no challenges. i'm not sure if it was you that i was telling about the paraplegic Annie J Flint. Her sorry challenges did not stop her from believing God. Here are some words from her popular hymn.

He giveth more grace as our burdens grow greater,
He sendeth more strength as our labors increase;
To added afflictions He addeth His mercy,
To multiplied trials He multiplies peace.

His love has no limits, His grace has no measure,
His power no boundary known unto men;
For out of His infinite riches in Jesus
He giveth, and giveth, and giveth again.

i want to believe you have heard about contemporary Nick Vujicic born without arms and legs yet serving God happily more than many that have arms and legs. Not to forget the great Fanny Jane crosby, who died at 95years old. Fanny wrote popular hymns like "Pass Me Not, O Gentle Saviour", "Blessed Assurance", "Jesus Is Tenderly Calling You Home", "Praise Him, Praise Him", "Rescue the Perishing", and "To God Be the Glory". Some 'medical' treatment when she was young left her blind forever. Yet she was the most inspiring of them all. Nobody has an excuse. God healing or not healing your friend does not prove anything.

Since when did handicap people believing in God become a proof of God's existence

He like most other people have a choice to serve God. The boy whose case I cased you to discourse will most likely grow up and die a firm believer in God. Go to mosques all over nigeria, you will see all manner of handicapped people even in worse situation than Pastor Nick, because they are not only handicapped but in abject poverty and hopelessness. Yet the pray to God without complaining 5 times everyday.
How is that a proof of God's existence.

My request is basic and straight forward. Let us pray for this boy's miracle. Or have you written God off even before praying?

frank317:


What?

You should have shut up when u know u have nothing to say...what's with embarrassing urself with this nonsense?

frank317:


What?

You should have shut up when u know u have nothing to say...what's with embarrassing urself with this nonsense?

frustration

HardMirror:

The thread has turned to comedy central and guess what?





















































































I am loving it

TESTIMONY TIME

Pastor hardmirror

Well i recently gave my life to lord gwa gwa and it has been awesome.

It also started 1day

I was driving on my okada. The okada fumbled and then i tumbled . i bled from my head . i became unconscious and then i felt my soul leave my body. And lo and behold


WHAT DID I SEE

It was lord gwa gwa . but i was shocked when i saw jesus and yahweh doing manicure and pedicure for lord gwa gwa .

Lord gwa gwa , then told me to go back to the world and preach to all men about him.

I woke up, i found myself in the hospital . i was totally fine .

And brethren i want to thank gwa gwa for helping me pass my exams , i know it wasnt because i read tirelessly for months , attended classes and took my studies seriously . NO WAY it was by lord gwa gwas epp.

GWA GWA


GWA GWA

GWA GWA

GWA GWA


I LOVE U DADDY...

urahara:



TESTIMONY TIME

Pastor hardmirror

Well i recently gave my life to lord gwa gwa and it has been awesome.

It also started 1day

I was driving on my okada. The okada fumbled and then i tumbled . i bled from my head . i became unconscious and then i felt my soul leave my body. And lo and behold


WHAT DID I SEE

It was lord gwa gwa . but i was shocked when i saw jesus and yahweh doing manicure and pedicure for lord gwa gwa .

Lord gwa gwa , then told me to go back to the world and preach to all men about him.

I woke up, i found myself in the hospital . i was totally fine .

And brethren i want to thank gwa gwa for helping me pass my exams , i know it wasnt because i read tirelessly for months , attended classes and took my studies seriously . NO WAY it was by lord gwa gwas epp.

GWA GWA


GWA GWA

GWA GWA

GWA GWA


I LOVE U DADDY...

I swear you are a jobless somburry I almost pissed on myself laughing.

All praise to Lord Gwagwa and Tomato his only son which is still with us manifesting in omniscient ways in soups, pizzas, jollof rice and all good food that has made life a delight.

HardMirror:


I swear you are a jobless somburry I almost pissed on myself laughing.

All praise to Lord Gwagwa and Tomato his only son which is still with us manifesting in omniscient ways in soups, pizzas, jollof rice and all good food that has made life a delight.

Looolz .

May lord gwa gwa continue to prosper his servant daddy g.o hard mirror. May he solve daddy hard mirror s case of implication by the kanama pappers . winks.

urahara:



TESTIMONY TIME

Pastor hardmirror

Well i recently gave my life to lord gwa gwa and it has been awesome.

It also started 1day

I was driving on my okada. The okada fumbled and then i tumbled . i bled from my head . i became unconscious and then i felt my soul leave my body. And lo and behold


WHAT DID I SEE

It was lord gwa gwa . but i was shocked when i saw jesus and yahweh doing manicure and pedicure for lord gwa gwa .

Lord gwa gwa , then told me to go back to the world and preach to all men about him.

I woke up, i found myself in the hospital . i was totally fine .

And brethren i want to thank gwa gwa for helping me pass my exams , i know it wasnt because i read tirelessly for months , attended classes and took my studies seriously . NO WAY it was by lord gwa gwas epp.

GWA GWA


GWA GWA

GWA GWA

GWA GWA


I LOVE U DADDY...

pls, don't forget to write Lord Gwa Gwa this way again. He is sensitive to case... Else, u might burn in hell till eternity.

Demol09:

pls, don't forget to write Lord Gwa Gwa this way again. He is sensitive to case... Else, u might burn in hell till eternity.

No no no. U are mis interpreting the holy book of the gwa gwa chronicles .

2nd ashana chapter 3 vs 15 says

". And lord gwa gwa said unto his servent daddy hard mirror . o. Hard mirror , protector of the nigerians , say unto my followers that i the omnipotent perfect creator of the universe am sensitive to case"


Now demol09 , u have to understand that the word case was obviously intended to be metaphorical . case obviously means problem . and not capital letters.

You should learn how 2 read the gwa gwa chronicles without misinterpreting it 2 fit ur own doctrine

urahara:


No no no. U are mis interpreting the holy book of the gwa gwa chronicles .

2nd ashana chapter 3 vs 15 says

". And lord gwa gwa said unto his servent daddy hard mirror . o. Hard mirror , protector of the nigerians , say unto my followers that i the omnipotent perfect creator of the universe am sensitive to case"


Now demol09 , u have to understand that the word case was obviously intended to be metaphorical . case obviously means problem . and not capital letters.

You should learn how 2 read the gwa gwa chronicles without misinterpreting it 2 fit ur own doctrine

Aye boss. I now get yhu.

femicyrus:


bros, I just lookup gwagwa on the Internet. i am surprised it did not exist!!!
except gwagwalada in abuja Nigeria.
you forsake God that created heaven and earth for gwagwalada based god. smh

sacarsm is a problem for some minds....