Ariani:


Trash! Uwaechue is entitled to his own opinions, but hardly are his opinions facts.

Unless you tell me you are now to believe everything Uwaechue says, cause he said lots of other things I know that you won't accept.

Ojukwu couldn't afford to be a tyrant. He had not the wherewithal to be such, Biafran was lacking in weapons, all she had working for het was the patriotism of her people that were willing to die for her.

Even when the truth stares you in the face you will dispute it,am sorry but that is intellectual weakness that leads to zombie following.

Dispute this too :
General Ironsi, an Igbo, emerged as the head of state. In his policies and actions, Ironsi did little to allay the fears of Igbo domination. He failed to place the coup plotters on trial as northern leaders demanded, and he appointed Igbos to sensitive governmental positions. Against all advice, Ironsi promulgated Decree Number 34 of 1966, which abrogated the federal system of government and substituted a unitary system; he argued that the military could only govern in this way. Given the already charged atmosphere, this action reinforced northern fears. As the north was less developed than the south, a unitary system could easily lead to southerners "taking over control of everything," as a northern spokesperson put it. It was at the height of northern opposition to unitarism that the countercoup of July 1966 took place.

infoispower:


origin is always important:
Ironsi promulgated Decree Number 34 of 1966, which abrogated the federal system of government and substituted a unitary system; ...

aguiyi ironsi failed to put the arrested coup plotters to death after the killing of
northern leaders,these reasons and others further fueled suspicion by the
northerners that igbos do really want to take over,thats the reason for the pogrom which eventually led to the war

What happen to the agreement reached at Ghana by Ojukwu and Gowon led government? Some greedy few will not allow the entire country rest. Why can Nigeria be restructure by now. We keep repeating the same thing since 1960.

infoispower:


Even when the truth stares you in the face you will deny it,am sorry but that is intellectual weakness that leads to zombie followers

Dispute this too :
General Ironsi, an Igbo, emerged as the head of state. In his policies and actions, Ironsi did little to allay the fears of Igbo domination. He failed to place the coup plotters on trial as northern leaders demanded, and he appointed Igbos to sensitive governmental positions. Against all advice, Ironsi promulgated Decree Number 34 of 1966, which abrogated the federal system of government and substituted a unitary system; he argued that the military could only govern in this way. Given the already charged atmosphere, this action reinforced northern fears. As the north was less developed than the south, a unitary system could easily lead to southerners "taking over control of everything," as a northern spokesperson put it. It was at the height of northern opposition to unitarism that the countercoup of July 1966 took place.

Lol! You do realize that Ironsi favouring the unity government seen as Igbo plan to control everything to you, clearly cancels the "Igbo wanted the Niger Delta oil" to themselves, you Yoruba greedy people propagate?

Unity government meant that the proceeds from the Eastern region will be shared amongst all regions by the FG.

Seeing as the Igbos are greedy and wanted the Niger Delta crude oil, like you proclaim, don't you think that the way to go by Ironsi was to reinforce regionalism and increase the autonomy of the region's, to make sure that the Eastern oil wealth which would have made her 100 Times richer than the FG and the North and West, remained within the East?

I mean is the petty jobs the East could have gotten in the West and the North, after the unification of the regions, measure one-day thousandth to the petroldollars boom the East would swim in, if she reinforced the regional government and paid peanuts as taxes to the FG?

Is this not clear to any body with an ounce of brain that Ironsi unity government proposal were not only anti Igbo, they were his personal decisions, driven by his naive personal misunderstanding of Nigeria structural and ethnic complexity?

[b] The coup was anti Igbo because:

Nzeogwu the coup originator never was Igbo trained, he was only Igbo by blood, he hardly can represent the wish and political thoughts of Ndiigbo at that era in discuss.


With regionalism in place, and the two oil rich regions of Midwest and Eastern region under the leadership of Igbo leaders ie Osadebey and Okpara, all Ndiigbo needed was to tighten regional autonomy and ensure the wealth from the two regions was used in developing the region, while we paid peanuts in tax to the FG, this was what the Igbo leaders in Okpara and Osadebey wanted, the ignorant khaki boys( Ironsi, Nzeogwu, Ifeajuna and co) actions, betrayed those interests .

Akintola and Awolowo factions fighting each other, fragmenting and rendering the Western region politically fragile, was actually what the Eastern leaders would have loved, as it makes things easier for Okpara dreams of placing Portharcourt as the nation's premier industrial, port and commercial city. Akintola short term victory would have meant that Awo would have rotted and died in prison while his Yoruba followers would have been easy targets for anyone wishing to destabilize Akintola and Yorubas.

The khaki boys did exactly the opposite, they eliminated Akintola, making it easier for Yorubas to unite behind Awolowo and present a United front, it also meant that Awo survived without Akintola supporters linking Akintola's death to him, as the khaki boys were guilty .

To the best of my knowledge, the coup and coup plotters changed all the political climate in the country that were all favouring Ndiigbo.
Viz:
1, A weak and fragmented Yorubaland that had been turned into battlefield by Akintola supporters and Awo supporters, Akintola himself being a northern sell out, and a tool to the saraduna who touted that he was set to conquer Yorubaland politically.

2, An inplace regional system that would had ensured that the economic gap between the Midwest/ Eastern region and the West/ Northern regions would have been as wide as the rift between heaven and hell, as long as we carried the non Igbos in those two regions along by ensuring equal wealth and power division and wealth control. [/b]

Ariani:


Lol! You do realize that Ironsi favouring the unity government seen as Igbo plan to control everything to you, clearly cancels the "Igbo wanted the Niger Delta oil" to themselves, you Yoruba greedy people propagate?

Unity government meant that the proceeds from the Eastern region will be shared amongst all regions by the FG.

Seeing as the Igbos are greedy and wanted the Niger Delta crude oil, like you proclaim, don't you think that the way to go by Ironsi was to reinforce regionalism and increase the autonomy of the region's, to make sure that the Eastern oil wealth which would have made her 100 Times richer than the FG and the North and West, remained within the East?

I mean is the petty jobs the East could have gotten in the West and the North, after the unification of the regions, measure one-day thousandth to the petroldollars boom the East would swim in, if she reinforced the regional government and paid peanuts as taxes to the FG?

Is this not clear to any body with an ounce of brain that Ironsi unity government proposal were not only anti Igbo, they were his personal decisions, driven by his naive personal misunderstanding of Nigeria structural and ethnic complexity?

Dont bother reasoning with them ,there is a yoruba saying….
A dog that wants to get lost will not listen to the whistle of the hunter.

PenSniper:



You spoke out of sheer ignorance or hypocrisy.

Your igbo leader, Gen. Aguiyi Ironsi, destroyed federalism and regionalism with a decree and not Gowon.

From time immemorial uptil 1979, another boot-leaking leader of yours, Nnamdi Azikiwe, was always willing to play the second fiddle to the northern oligarchy for filthy lucre and to the detriment of his own people.
Consult records for facts and stop dishing out trash and fables.

This thread is about Ojukwu and not Ironsi or Zik. Ironsi was never an Igbo leader. Ironsi was just an Igbo who happend head of the Nigerian army when mid level officers conducted a coup and the resultant effect was him becoming head of state unexpectedly. Whoever told that Ironsi destroyed regionalism? The four regions were existing months after Ironsi died. So how could Ironsi have destroyed it? It was Gowon that came in and dissolved the regions, created states and introduced unitary rule which we still have today

Ariani:


Lol! You do realize that Ironsi favouring the unity government seen as Igbo plan to control everything to you, clearly cancels the "Igbo wanted the Niger Delta oil" to themselves, you Yoruba greedy people propagate?

Unity government meant that the proceeds from the Eastern region will be shared amongst all regions by the FG.

Seeing as the Igbos are greedy and wanted the Niger Delta crude oil, like you proclaim, don't you think that the way to go by Ironsi was to reinforce regionalism and increase the autonomy of the region's, to make sure that the Eastern oil wealth which would have made her 100 Times richer than the FG and the North and West, remained within the East?

I mean is the petty jobs the East could have gotten in the West and the North, after the unification of the regions, measure one-day thousandth to the petroldollars boom the East would swim in, if she reinforced the regional government and paid peanuts as taxes to the FG?

Is this not clear to any body with an ounce of brain that Ironsi unity government proposal were not only anti Igbo, they were his personal decisions, driven by his naive personal misunderstanding of Nigeria structural and ethnic complexity?

dont act like your ignorant ,his point is that Ironsi’s actions lead northeners
to have a counter coup .

igbos refuse to acknowledge the origin of the war.
they killed Northern ,yoruba,and midwestern leaders,while their own was spared
and the northerners do not joke with their leaders and decided to take revenge on the
ibos living in the north.

this is whey ojukwu lead your people to their graves........... ignorance

contagiousme:


dont act like your ignorant ,his point is that Ironsi’s actions lead northeners
to have a counter coup .

igbos refuse to acknowledge the origin of the war.
they killed Northern ,yoruba,and midwestern leaders,while their own was spared
and the northerners do not joke with their leaders and decided to take revenge on the
ibos living in the north.

this is whey ojukwu lead your people to their graves........... ignorance

Still talking trash! Who are the "they" you are referring to? Never knew that Ademoyega was an Igbo man.

The Origin of the coup means nothing to me.
As the coup to the best of my knowledge was not in favour of the Igbo political agenda as spare headed by Okpara and Osadebey.


Don't quote me again, if you can't make use of your brain for once.

gidgiddy:


This thread is about Ojukwu and not Ironsi or Zik. Ironsi was never an Igbo leader. Ironsi was just an Igbo who happend head of the Nigerian army when mid level officers conducted a coup and the resultant effect was him becoming head of state unexpectedly. Whoever told that Ironsi destroyed regionalism? The four regions were existing months after Ironsi died. So how could Ironsi have destroyed it? It was Gowon that came in and dissolved the regions, created states and introduced unitary rule which we still have today

according to your reasoning:

Ojukwu was not a leader the igbos chose them selves,he was appointed by the military after the coup,they
relied around and depended on him because he was the man in power during the crises.
and that is why he had no political experience and he f u guys in the but....ops

Ariani:


Trash! Uwaechue is entitled to his own opinions, but hardly are his opinions facts.

Unless you tell me you are now to believe everything Uwaechue says, cause he said lots of other things I know that you won't accept.

Ojukwu couldn't afford to be a tyrant. He had not the wherewithal to be such, Biafran was lacking in weapons, all she had working for het was the patriotism of her people that were willing to die for her.

Your hero fled the country with over 3000 pounds of personal
luggage and his expensive Mercedes Benz leaving the igbos to go f themselves

contagiousme:


Your hero fled the country with over 3000 pounds of personal
luggage and his expensive Mercedes Benz leaving the igbos to go f themselves

Your Hero took a rat poison after getting drunk on petroldollars, committed treason for the second time and died like a wretched rat.

That's basically the story of your Hero, he died a nobody, the world knew not the day he died.

Ariani:


Still talking trash! Who are the "they" you are referring to? Never knew that Ademoyega was an Igbo man.

The Origin of the coup means nothing to me.
As the coup to the best of my knowledge was not in favour of the Igbo political agenda as spare headed by Okpara and Osadebey.


Don't quote me again, if you can't make use of your brain for once.

Your hero should should have been arrested and prosecuted for using children young as 13 as soldiers
shame on you for defending him

You for write a book naw instead of boring us with this epistle.

contagiousme:



Your hero should should have been arrested and prosecuted for using children young as 13 as soldiers
shame on you for defending him

Your Hero was arrested, was found found guilty in a court of law, of embezzlement of public funds and Treason, sentenced to jail like a criminal he was.

But was saved by the coup. Yet his greed and criminal nature still got him into plotting another coup, apparently the petroldollars he was siphoning from Niger Delta to Lagos wasn't enough for him, he was arrested for the second time, like a criminal he was. A jailbird was always going to be a jailbird. Karma caught up with him eventually, and he died like a rat.

Now, how about that?

READ ALL FROM 1-2 PAGE.........

IF THE FIRST POST IS TRUE.....THEN I WILL BLAME GOWON AND LATER BLAME OJUKWU .....

FIRST i will say the title is misleading...... Being incompetent does not explain breech of agreement...

Ojukwu who was the eastern governor did what was right by asking the igbos to come to the east,an estimated
30,000 had lost their lives to these riots, leading to exodus of close to a million people returning to the east,
ojukwu refused to recognize gowan as the head of state and threatened to declare a sovereign state because
gowan was not the most senior officer,and the inaction of the federal government finding a lasting solution to the
humanitarian crisis ,he cut of communication to the federal government ,seized all the revenue collected for the
federal government in the east and gowan reacted by ordering blockade of the eastern region,blocking major
roads to put pressure on the east to negotiate.

First i will say Ojukwu did his best in the above quote ....He is the only competent leader that stood for his people in a time like that and i must tell u if inaction followed the above action and riot ...i must tell u ..worse could have happen to igbos.

Yoruba leader awolowo stated that the federal government should withdraw its troops from lagos ,ibadan and
abeokuta and that if the igbos should leave yorubas will too,these statements probably made gowan more
determined to keep nigeria as one.

This is the problem Nigeria is facing today....Awolowo treat is the main cause of the tension that ensued to war.... if the West accepted what was coming then and decided to par with the North as one Nigeria .....Nigeria will be far better than what they are today... The fear to face the North has been the reason why the east is used to complete or complement One Nigeria ,,which is not playing out well considering the repelling belief both side have against each other..

In early january 1967 a summit was held in aburi ghana as a concession to ojukwu wanting a neutral location to
address area of conflict ,both parties left aburi with different understanding or interpretation of the agreement,
after 2 months of the east viewing gowan as not implementing the aburi accord,ojukwu unilaterally declared an
independent state of biafra.

NObody nver ask why Gowon failed implement the Aburi accord.. I think what ever in that agreement what in favour of Ojukwu and Gowon failing to honour the said agreement is the only reason why Ojukwu has to take drastic step to force him(Gowon) to War by declaring Biafra.

I think ojukwu should have used the threat of war to negotiate a better autonomy for the east which nigerian
negotiators were suggesting then,why do you think Ukraine have not till today tried to attack Russia,it is simply
because it will be a foolish thing to do.

i think the OP was sentimental by writing the above...... was the creation of state or whatever Gowon did part of the Aburi accord. what Negotiation would Ojukwu go into when obviously there is one on ground yet implemented

ojukwu refused to allow foods and medicine to reach biafra starving citizens
through a neutral corridor that took weeks to negotiate by emperor selassie,for fear it would be poisoned by nigerian
troops despite assurance from the international relief organizations and despite the fact that there was no prior
evidence of poisoning by nigerian troops,some of the foods and medicine that was eventually donated and flown
into biafra by these organizations was diverted for military use.
He was more interested in using using the horrific pictures of hunger ,death and destruction to gain international
sympathy and getting weapons than finding a quick end to the war
according to "there was a country "by chinuia achibe,canada was neutral until it officially criticized ojukwu openly
for rejecting humanitarian assistance of cloths ,food and medicine while he was vigorously seeking weapons.

was the above insertion true of for false condemnation..

The painful war was avoidable or at least more lives could have been saved if the war had ended earlier,i still wonder
what the population of the igbos will be today without the unjustifiable death and destruction he brought on his people.
I am still baffled why a military leader would make such catastrophic miscalculations of starting a war with such odds
stacked against him,you don't go to a sword fight with a spoon and then complain about bloody nose and broken legs.
Like the usual selfish and dictatorial african leader,he did not wait to finish what he started,after properties and
livelihood were destroyed and an estimated dead 2 million biafran soldiers and 1 million biafran dead civilians
due to starvation and collateral damage ,total 3 million biafrans lives wasted, in addition to total of 100 thousand
nigerian soldiers losing their lives.

The above is where we the Igbos till today blaim Ojukwu....since u know are loosing in a war ,,why will u keep risking lives to be in a war u know u cant achieve ur claim in the first place, why not surrender and Live to fight another..at least with more direction as the first lacked direction and resources ....



In conclusion what i have to say is that Ojukwu might be wrong by going to a war where he lacked resources to win BUt the courage he had by standing for his people in those times is what any sensible igbo man praise him for....Igbo can never be lost in World history due to his courage and agitation......Then Let me add that the call for Biafra state is not an issue Nigerians will shy away from because ..the more deaf ears are given to it ..the more it lingers to another generation...the Nigerian of now should find ways to restrategise this country in order to attain to impending needs of his people or else Nigeria of today will face bigger war in years to come

gidgiddy:


This thread is about Ojukwu and not Ironsi or Zik. Ironsi was never an Igbo leader. Ironsi was just an Igbo who happend head of the Nigerian army when mid level officers conducted a coup and the resultant effect was him becoming head of state unexpectedly. Whoever told that Ironsi destroyed regionalism? The four regions were existing months after Ironsi died. So how could Ironsi have destroyed it? It was Gowon that came in and dissolved the regions, created states and introduced unitary rule which we still have today

If this thread was about Ojukwu, why then did you bring in Gowon and Awolowo ?

Again, i would've advised you to consult your elders but then i remembered they too hardly reason objectively in matters that involve their tribe.
But i repeat that you are deliberately falsifying history and records.

Aguiyi Ironsi repealled regionalism in Nigeria by a decree and replaced it with Unitary system of government which Gowon inherited at take-over.
A simple google search will enlighten you on this assuming you are being sincerely ignorant of the facts.

infoispower:



The book references are there...don't have a lazy mind read it....

List Of Major Military Installations In Nigeria In The 60’s:

Northern Nigeria:
      1.   3rd Bn                                              Kaduna 
       2.  5th Bn                                                Kano
       3.  1 Field Battery  (Arty)                         Kaduna
       4.  1 Field Squadron  (Engrs)                   Kaduna
       5.  88 Transport Regt                              Kaduna
       6.  Nigerian Defense Academy             Kaduna
       7.  Ordinance Depot                              Kaduna
       8.  44 Military Hospital                         Kaduna
       9.  Nigeria Military Training College            Kaduna
      10.   Recon Squadron & Regt                       Kaduna
      11.  Nigerian Air Force                           Kaduna
      12.  Ammunition Factory                   Kaduna
      13.  Recruit Training Depot                        Zaria
      14.  Nigerian Military School                     Zaria
 
      Western Nigeria:
       1.  4th Bn                                                 Ibadan
       2.  2 Field Battery (Arty)                          Abeokuta 
       3.  2 Recon Squaron                              Abeokuta 

       Eastern Nigeria: 
       1st Bn                                                      Enugu
———————————
T[b]ell me is it wise to fight or negotiate? actions create reactions…………
War is supposed to be strategic, and not fought with only emotions and passion[/b].

Apparently you've never fought a war before. Passion and emotion often are the deciding factor in winning and/or surviving.

Apparently you have been upset with all the Buhari and YORUBA bashing by people on nairaland/social media (Yes, including from folks from the "Niger-Delta" that have reached historic levels because everyone don awake to the deceit and lies year in year out.

What strategy did Gowon and his thugs that promoted themselves to high titles have to defeat Biafra or even govern the British zoo for 9 years? What weapons did they manufacture, which airplanes did they even design, what bombs and explosives with all the military bases in the North and West did they formulate and distribute made by the hands of Africans? Yet Biafra was able to do nearly the impossible, even with international airport that Nigeria is taking 16 years to complete in Enugu.

Nigeria till date is the most incompetent country the world has seen, lead by Fulani herdsman and deputy Yoruba boy boy

Lmaooo Ojukwu was really incompetent.

PenSniper:



If this thread was about Ojukwu, why then did you bring in Gowon and Awolowo ?

Again, i would've advised you to consult your elders but then i remembered they too hardly reason objectively in matters that involve their tribe.
But i repeat that you are deliberately falsifying history and records.

Aguiyi Ironsi repealled regionalism in Nigeria by a decree and replaced it with Unitary system of government which Gowon inherited at take-over.
A simple google search will enlighten you on this assuming you are being sincerely ignorant of the facts.

But the thread IS about Ojukwu, which by default involves to a large extent Gowon and Awolowo- DUUUUH?

Unless you don't want people to realize that perhaps they- leaders of the British control of resources in the Ni.gga Area, were infact the most incompetent of them all.

Should I continue?

contagiousme:



according to your reasoning:

Ojukwu was not a leader the igbos chose them selves,he was appointed by the military after the coup,they
relied around and depended on him because he was the man in power during the crises.
and that is why he had no political experience and he f u guys in the but....ops

I said Ironsi, not Ojukwu.

PenSniper:



If this thread was about Ojukwu, why then did you bring in Gowon and Awolowo ?

Again, i would've advised you to consult your elders but then i remembered they too hardly reason objectively in matters that involve their tribe.
But i repeat that you are deliberately falsifying history and records.

Aguiyi Ironsi repealled regionalism in Nigeria by a decree and replaced it with Unitary system of government which Gowon inherited at take-over.
A simple google search will enlighten you on this assuming you are being sincerely ignorant of the facts.

This thread is about Ojukwu, but leading up the civil war neither Zik or Ironsi were in power. Ironsi was dead almost a year before the war started, Zik was out of power even longer than that. Gowon and Awolowo were like no 1 and 2 man during the crises so they must be mentioned because they are relevant. You say Ironsi repealed the regions? Ironsi died in 1966, the regions were abolished in 1967. So how did Ironsi do this? Did he come back from the dead? The unification decree Ironsi promulgated only centralised government, it took some powers away but it left the regions intact. So how did Ironsi destroy regionalism when it was Gowon who announced on 27th May 1967, the abolishment of the 4 regions, the creation of 12 states and the removal of fiscal policy and resouce control? This is not about asking elders, it's about answering questions.

. . .below is a quote from google confirming the truth that Ironsi abrogated tegionalism and replaced it with the unitary system in futile hope he would be able to impose his iboness on Nigeria- ibonising all strata of government which he actually embarked upon before he was killed like a fool He got wind of the coup that took his life but waited like a seating dock.
If you still remain adamant, i shall copy the link for you.










194 days in office Edit
Ironsi inherited a Nigeria deeply fractured by its ethnic and religious cleavages. The fact that none of the high-profile victims of the 1966 coup were of Igbo extraction, and also that the main beneficiaries of the coup were Igbo, led the Northern part of the country to believe that it was an Igbo conspiracy. Though Ironsi tried to dispel this notion by courting the aggrieved ethnic groups through political appointments and patronage, his failure to punish the coup plotters and the promulgation of the now infamous "Decree No. 34"—which abrogated the country's federal structure in exchange for a unitary one— crystallized this conspiracy theory.[1

gidgiddy:


This thread is about Ojukwu, but leading up the civil war neither Zik or Ironsi were in power. Ironsi was dead almost a year before the war started, Zik was out of power even longer than that. Gowon and Awolowo were like no 1 and 2 man during the crises so they must be mentioned because they are relevant. You say Ironsi repealed the regions? Ironsi died in 1966, the regions were abolished in 1967. So how did Ironsi do this? Did he come back from the dead? The unification decree Ironsi promulgated only centralised government, it took some powers away but it left the regions intact. So how did Ironsi destroy regionalism when it was
Gowon who announced on 27th May 1967, the abolishment of the 4 regions, the creation of 12 states and the removal of fiscal policy and resouce control? This is not about asking elders, it's about
answering questions.

PenSniper:
. . .below is a quote from google confirming the truth that Ironsi abrogated tegionalism and replaced it with the unitary system in futile hope he would be able to impose his iboness on Nigeria- ibonising all strata of government which he actually embarked upon before he was killed like a fool He got wind of the coup that took his life but waited like a seating dock.
If you still remain adamant, i shall copy the link for you.










194 days in office Edit
Ironsi inherited a Nigeria deeply fractured by its ethnic and religious cleavages. The fact that none of the high-profile victims of the 1966 coup were of Igbo extraction, and also that the main beneficiaries of the coup were Igbo, led the Northern part of the country to believe that it was an Igbo conspiracy. Though Ironsi tried to dispel this notion by courting the aggrieved ethnic groups through political appointments and patronage, his failure to punish the coup plotters and the promulgation of the now infamous "Decree No. 34"—which abrogated the country's federal structure in exchange for a unitary one— crystallized this conspiracy theory.[1

I could hit the search button on Google and land on any SW propaganda website that can economical with the truth. The above could be the view point of any body. The question Im asking which you don't want to answer is, how could Ironsi have repealed or abolished the regions when at the time he died in 1966 all 4 regions existed? Like I said before, the unification decree, or the decree 34 you are talking about did take some powers away from the regions because it centralised government which is how all minitary regimes functions. Gowon abolished regionalism in 1967 and announced the creation of states. Did Ironsi return from the dead and posses the body of Gowon or something?

I did not fight because of Ojukwu.

This is why I fought:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb7Z_7AiGr8

gidgiddy:

I could hit the search button on Google and land on any SW propaganda website that can economical with the truth. The above could be the view point of any body. The question Im asking which you don't want to answer is, how could Ironsi have repealed or abolished the regions when at the time he died in 1966 all 4 regions existed? Like I said before, the unification decree, or the decree 34 you are talking about did take some powers away from the regions because it centralised government which is how all minitary regimes functions. Gowon abolished regionalism in 1967 and announced the creation of states. Did Ironsi return from the dead and posse
s the body of Gowon or something?

The fact you need to ponder upon is- is regionalism synonemous with unitary system of government ?
As of the time Gowon took over, the regions existed without their powers of autonomy which had been taken away by decree 34.
Isn't it funny that so far you are the only one i know of that has ever denied the import of decree 34 by Ironsi ?

PenSniper:



The fact you need to ponder upon is- is regionalism synonemous with unitary system of government ?
As of the time Gowon took over, the regions existed without their powers of autonomy which had been taken away by decree 34.
Isn't it funny that so far you are the only one i know of that has ever denied the import of decree 34 by Ironsi ?

Saw propaganda machine and fakery. Now, it is not that Ironsi repealed the regions, a false story you guys have been carrying around for years, it is that he introduced unitary rule. Remarkably, you people never mention the fact that Ojukwu negotiated a confederation in Aburi which Gowon ignored and created States to forster the 'divide and rule' policy of the North. A move which Ojukwu resisted which led to the war. The same SW people who helped the North to wage a war to entrench the full blown unitary system introduced by Gowon which we still practice today are the same ones accusing Ironsi of introducing the unitary system just because he was an Igbo man. Laughable.

Ever Military regime runs on one form of unitary system or the other. Decree 34 did take away some powers from the regions and centralise government but it did not make Nigeria unitary in nature. Remember in regionalism, the center is weak while the federating units (the regions) are strong. Naturally, there was no way the four Military Governors Ironsi appointed were going to stronger than Ironsi himself, hence decree 34.

The important thing to note here is how much power did the regions lose under Ironsi to become unitary? Not much. An example is this. On the 30th of May 1967, the day Ojukwu declared the Biafra. Just before Ojukwu was about to make the announcement, he looked around noticed that there an important dignitary who was absent. Ojukwu instructed that the man be present, so the announcement was held up for more 20 minutes as Ojukwus aids rushed to inform the man that his presence was needed. Do you know who that man was? He was the British ambassador to Eastern Nigeria. If Eastern Nigeria was strong enough and autonomous enough to have its own ambassadors, have its own flag, have its own consultative assembly, have fiscal responsibility and resource control, things that disappeard under Gowon and his state creation, how then can you that decree 34 introduced unitary rule?

Alfamann:
I did not fight because of Ojukwu.

This is why I fought:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb7Z_7AiGr8

I've watched this video. The execution of a suspected Biafran Soldier called Mathias Kanu by Lt Lamourde in Ogwe, a small village South of Aba. It was most unfortunate. The good thing is that the Jounalist who recorded this video footage showed it to Colonel Adekunle who then court martialed Lt Lamourde. Lt Lamourde was then executed Porthacourt after being found guilty of murder

Foolish post n op

gidgiddy:


Saw propaganda machine and fakery. Now, it is not that Ironsi repealed the regions, a false story you guys have been carrying around for years, it is that he introduced unitary rule. Remarkably, you people never mention the fact that Ojukwu negotiated a confederation in Aburi which Gowon ignored and created States to forster the 'divide and rule' policy of the North. A move which Ojukwu resisted which led to the war. The same SW people who helped the North to wage a war to entrench the full blown unitary system introduced by Gowon which we still practice today are the same ones accusing Ironsi of introducing the unitary system just because he was an Igbo man. Laughable.

Ever Military regime runs on one form of unitary system or the other. Decree 34 did take away some powers from the regions and centralise government but it did not make Nigeria unitary in nature. Remember in regionalism, the center is weak while the federating units (the regions) are strong. Naturally, there was no way the four Military Governors Ironsi appointed were going to stronger than Ironsi himself, hence decree 34.

The important thing to note here is how much power did the regions lose under Ironsi to become unitary? Not much. An example is this. On the 30th of May 1967, the day Ojukwu declared the Biafra. Just before Ojukwu was about to make the announcement, he looked around noticed that there an important dignitary who was absent. Ojukwu instructed that the man be present, so the announcement was held up for more 20 minutes as Ojukwus aids rushed to inform the man that his presence was needed. Do you know who that man was? He was the British ambassador to Eastern Nigeria. If Eastern Nigeria was strong enough and autonomous enough to have its own ambassadors, have its own flag, have its own consultative assembly, have fiscal responsibility and resource control, things that disappeard under Gowon and his state creation, how then can you that
decree 34 introduced unitary rule?

A British Ambassador to Eastern Nigeria ?
Nay, how many ambassadors did Britain have in Nigeria as a whole at that time ?
Please tell me.

Ojukwu's conduct of the war was really bad. Biafra never stood a chance, really.
While Ojukwu's decision to secede Eastern Nigeria from Nigeria can be understood, what cannot be is his desertion as General Commander of the Biafran forces in January 1970. Nothing can justify his flight to Cote d'Ivoire with his Mercedes Benz, leaving his underlings to do the most courageous thing during the war: surrendering to Nigeria and ending the bloodletting of civilian populations

gidgiddy:


I've watched this video. The execution of a suspected Biafran Soldier called Mathias Kanu by Lt Lamourde in Ogwe, a small village South of Aba. It was most unfortunate. The good thing is that the Jounalist who recorded this video footage showed it to Colonel Adekunle who then court martialed Lt Lamourde. Lt Lamourde was then executed Porthacourt after being found guilty of murder

Yoruba and lies.

PenSniper:



A British Ambassador to Eastern Nigeria ?
Nay, how many ambassadors did Britain have in Nigeria as a whole at that time ?
Please tell me.

Mr Parker was the British Ambassador for the eastern region although his official title was deputy high commissioner, Eastern Region of Nigeria. This is to show the level of autonomy the regions had back then.