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Re: South Africa's Economy Falls To Third Behind Nigeria, Egypt by OohLalah(f): 3:17pm On May 13, 2016
junketer:
read my first post on page one. I started this. I'm a nigerian but i live in south africa. U can't compare the two countries. Infact it is an insult to south africa if u try to compare it to nigeria. South africa is 1million times better than nigeria. Its only the nigerians who have never left nigeria that keep saying otherwise.
Meant the op he was responding to, the ne he quoted.
Re: South Africa's Economy Falls To Third Behind Nigeria, Egypt by mmsen: 3:21pm On May 13, 2016
junketer:
u mistake soweto for something else. Soweto is a well planned townships with malls and like i said all the basic amenities. It also has baragwanath which is the biggest hospital in africa. All those shacks u see are not soweto.

The biggest hospital in Africa named after an Englishman...

Also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soweto
The area is mostly composed of old "matchbox" houses, or four-room houses built by the government, that were built to provide cheap accommodation for black workers during apartheid. However, there are a few smaller areas where prosperous Sowetans have built houses that are similar in stature to those in more affluent suburbs.

We all know the history of South Africa and what the evil Europeans did. I'm not trying to fight you but someone spread a lie about Lagos/Lekki that isn't close to being true. A person of means lives considerably better in Lekki than a broke person in Soweto - go find the person who said otherwise and deal with him.

P.S.
I pulled the picture of the 'slum' from the link that you posted. It was listed under Soweto - http://www.vpike.com/?ci=953781&country=ZA
Re: South Africa's Economy Falls To Third Behind Nigeria, Egypt by junketer(m): 3:22pm On May 13, 2016
MetaHuman:
lol dude, you are so ignorant... Stop using Johannesburg to judge south Africa.. South Africa is a giant shithole just like most countries in Africa..

They also have power problems and poor infrastructure..
i have been to almost every province in south africa and i tell u they are all the same. Well planned with all amenities u find in joburg. Lets say joburg is lagos,abuja is pretoria, port harcourt is cape town, kano is durban, enugu is bloemfontein, ibadan is port elizabeth, onitsha is kimberley, owerri is rustenburg, uyo is nelspruit, calabar is polokwane etc. Now google pictures of these cities and compare. I am a nigerian but south africa beats nigeria hands down.

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Re: South Africa's Economy Falls To Third Behind Nigeria, Egypt by Ilaje44(m): 3:24pm On May 13, 2016
oduastates:
Nigeria need to get power supply sorted as soon as possible.
With power, we can actually give China, India and the rest a run for their money.
We cannot do it the south Korean way. What Nigeria can latch on to is outsourcing in manufacturing( especially textiles), IT services, telesales and customers services.

I like your ideas, but Nigeria really has to invest in human capital development to be competitive at all. A lot of Nigerians feel they are doing you a favour even though you are the one paying exhorbitant prices for their services. They have no sense of customer care, and they don't understand the simple notion of impressing customers to make them return for further purchases. They rather think of now and here, which is why it's easy for them to cheat their customers without remorse. There's a lot business people can learn from the Hausa Bureau De change guys in Oja Alade / Allen Avenue. They treat you nicely, are honest and want you to come back.

Doing business in Nigeria is among the worst experience in the world. Government bottlenecks and duplication of offices and taxes are among other menaces that have to be dealt with for us to be internationally competitive.
Re: South Africa's Economy Falls To Third Behind Nigeria, Egypt by KekeNash(f): 3:29pm On May 13, 2016
Nigerian economy is the best in Africa so good news for you guys, but one thing you must know SA is not competing with you, actually we are not competing with anybody. You are best so chill. This thing of GIANT OF AFRICA is not neccessary, we have a long way to go. Big up to Egypt soon they will be on top and you will never hear any noise

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Re: South Africa's Economy Falls To Third Behind Nigeria, Egypt by LeSudAfricaine: 3:32pm On May 13, 2016
junketer:
i have been to almost every province in south africa and i tell u they are all the same. Well planned with all amenities u find in joburg. Lets say joburg is lagos,abuja is pretoria, port harcourt is cape town, kano is durban, enugu is bloemfontein, ibadan is port elizabeth, onitsha is kimberley, owerri is rustenburg, uyo is nelspruit, calabar is polokwane etc. Now google pictures of these cities and compare. I am a nigerian but south africa beats nigeria hands down.
Cold hard facts, no setimental patriotic bullssht, you are a rare species grin

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Re: South Africa's Economy Falls To Third Behind Nigeria, Egypt by MPSA(m): 3:32pm On May 13, 2016
GambaOsaka:


And you think your image is funny, right?

the funny thing is; You don't want to answer my question. grin
Re: South Africa's Economy Falls To Third Behind Nigeria, Egypt by GambaOsaka: 3:33pm On May 13, 2016
MPSA:


Sir! Tell me, what is wrong with my image? grin

Such images call for the 'Dislike' option to be added on Nairaland.
Re: South Africa's Economy Falls To Third Behind Nigeria, Egypt by GambaOsaka: 3:36pm On May 13, 2016
MPSA:


the funny thing is; You don't want to answer my question. grin

I'm not up for any long chats here.
I asked you a question at first and you replied with a question.
And you think your image is funny, right?
Re: South Africa's Economy Falls To Third Behind Nigeria, Egypt by MPSA(m): 3:54pm On May 13, 2016
GambaOsaka:


I'm not up for any long chats here.
I asked you a question at first and you replied with a question.
And you think your image is funny, right?

No;no......Sir, I am the one who started to ask the question first. My question was; 'Where to locate nigeria( The giant of africa ) from the map'. What you did! You asked me a question. Can you please answer my question first, I will answer yours later grin.
Re: South Africa's Economy Falls To Third Behind Nigeria, Egypt by Nobody: 3:55pm On May 13, 2016
junketer:
i have been to almost every province in south africa and i tell u they are all the same. Well planned with all amenities u find in joburg. Lets say joburg is lagos,abuja is pretoria, port harcourt is cape town, kano is durban, enugu is bloemfontein, ibadan is port elizabeth, onitsha is kimberley, owerri is rustenburg, uyo is nelspruit, calabar is polokwane etc. Now google pictures of these cities and compare. I am a nigerian but south africa beats nigeria hands down.
stop lying with all your mouth. Are we talking about the same south Africa? grin the same south africa i have been twice. ..

Stop using google .. Go to south Africa and see real struggle or watch foreign stations where they hardly show any good part of any African country..

Even if you Google queens, ajrgunle,it will return some good picture but is that the reality on ground..

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Re: South Africa's Economy Falls To Third Behind Nigeria, Egypt by johntolu: 4:10pm On May 13, 2016
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ZeeAfrica:
We can argue and fight with all our energy, but the truth still remains, as much as Nigeria got that stupid rank. Poverty in this country is real, and south African's can never even catch us with poverty even if they tried. South Africa is paradise compared to this shit in Nigeria. What are we doing with the claims that we are richer?. Guys lets go to SA and see their poor sides and compare to Nigeria's richest sides. truth still remains our country is bleeped up. Nigeria needs to wake up and stop being big headed for nothing

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Re: South Africa's Economy Falls To Third Behind Nigeria, Egypt by johntolu: 4:16pm On May 13, 2016
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Besides that, let them leave their currency to float and see whether they can remain at the top. Both these countries have a tight control over their currency, they peg their currency. for an example, Naira has been pegged to N200 to the $1, but in the parallel market its N320=$1, Egypt have also done the same, egyptian pound has been pegged at 8.85 =$1. South africa is the only country on the continent which keeps its currency float, this makes south africa to be globally competative and use their currency as a shock absorber, the rest are just an artificial economies, they cannot compete with south african economy in all spheres.

The so called 3rd biggest economy in africa still controls 80% of africa stork exchange, still has the biggest middle class, still has the biggest budget in the entire continent, is still the biggest investor in the entire continent, still produces 60% of electricity power of the entire continent.

S.A have it.

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Re: South Africa's Economy Falls To Third Behind Nigeria, Egypt by mmsen: 4:22pm On May 13, 2016
Ilaje44:


I like your ideas, but Nigeria really has to invest in human capital development to be competitive at all. A lot of Nigerians feel they are doing you a favour even though you are the one paying exhorbitant prices for their services. They have no sense of customer care, and they don't understand the simple notion of impressing customers to make them return for further purchases. They rather think of now and here, which is why it's easy for them to cheat their customers without remorse. There's a lot business people can learn from the Hausa Bureau De change guys in Oja Alade / Allen Avenue. They treat you nicely, are honest and want you to come back.

Doing business in Nigeria is among the worst experience in the world. Government bottlenecks and duplication of offices and taxes are among other menaces that have to be dealt with for us to be internationally competitive.

Are Hausa people no longer Nigerians?

You said Nigerians have no business etiquette then use the Hausas as an example as to how it should be done.

Please be more precise with your language.
Re: South Africa's Economy Falls To Third Behind Nigeria, Egypt by junketer(m): 6:13pm On May 13, 2016
MetaHuman:
stop lying with all your mouth. Are we talking about the same south Africa? grin the same south africa i have been twice. ..

Stop using google .. Go to south Africa and see real struggle or watch foreign stations where they hardly show any good part of any African country..

Even if you Google queens, ajrgunle,it will return some good picture but is that the reality on ground..
stop deceiving yourself. People struggle everywhere in the world. Yesterday i drove from joburg to upington, thats a 900km trip but guess what, there was no pothole for those 900km. I've driven from rustenburg to polokwane. From witbank to nelspruit. From joburg to durban, all the roads are just superb. Now can you say the same about nigeria? Nope. The reality on ground is that nothing works in nigeria. The only thing we got going for us are our oil and population. Can you please tell me what works the way it should in nigeria?

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Re: South Africa's Economy Falls To Third Behind Nigeria, Egypt by Ilaje44(m): 6:24pm On May 13, 2016
mmsen:


Are Hausa people no longer Nigerians?

You said Nigerians have no business etiquette then use the Hausas as an example as to how it should be done.

Please be more precise with your language.

I think you should not only read, but read properly. I don't think I wrote generically about the Hausa, but a specific set of Hausas, found at a specific location, doing a very specific business. Now tell, what is hard for you to understand?

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Re: South Africa's Economy Falls To Third Behind Nigeria, Egypt by mmsen: 9:43pm On May 13, 2016
Ilaje44:


I think you should not only read, but read properly. I don't think I wrote generically about the Hausa, but a specific set of Hausas, found at a specific location, doing a very specific business. Now tell, what is hard for you to understand?

Hausa money changers are no longer Nigerian?

You're in no position to tell anyone about what they should do when you blatantly contradict yourself in one single post.
Re: South Africa's Economy Falls To Third Behind Nigeria, Egypt by MduZA: 6:11am On May 14, 2016
PunkyV:


Bathathe, S'gidi! grin

Lol
Re: South Africa's Economy Falls To Third Behind Nigeria, Egypt by ZeeAfrica(f): 9:00am On May 14, 2016
The big walls which rich ppl build in naija are so dirty on de outside, we use gateman instead of remote controlled gates, our roads r shit, we have child labour, wer de madm wil b beating a 9 year old maid for shit, our malls r stupid, our schools r stupit, our currency is shit, our heads r big for nothing, coz we leave naija and go doop people or sell drugs in out countries, den we wana play big boy. Our education is schools r bleeped up, our hospitals and police stations r shit, actually our police seem like south african security guards who work in rural areas. De so called big shops we trust, like shoprite, r actually small fish in south africa, as dey have better shops like game, micro, pick and pay and others. De so called network which so trust, like mtn, is a south african company which even gives better service in their country, compared to de shit dey give us, and we seem to appreciate so much, coz we cant do any better.
Our so called apartments r shit, south african stock exchange still compares with real giants of de world and can give us a run for our money at anytime. De rich in naija r sellfish and like boasting, weras de rich in SA care abt de poor and dey actualy do help. Do u knw how charity organisations r der? Weras here a rich guy wud rather spend for his concubine and wear big shit and feel better, weras his neighbour goes to bed hungry. In south africa, u wud never find a 9 year old being a maid. A 9 year old is taken care off, by deir government. Free education, health and protection. Even get a social grant and an rdp house for de family, de old who cant take care of demselves get de same. If a person is realy poor, der r even homless shelters. De only street kids u find, r those kids who have run away from home becoz of being naughty and do not want descipline, and dey still even leave good and have real means of making sure dey never sleep hungry. Guys plzz lets stop deceiving our selves, naija is pure shit from de s. I guarantee u dat de only reason we have higher gdp is dat we r more populated dan ever. We keep having kids we cant take care off, and keep marrying and being housewives to stupid man, who we depend on so much, instead of being compatitive women like in south africa, woman who actualt marry wen dey r ready and have deir own wealth, instead of treating marriage as if its a profession. In naija as a woman u chase marriage, coz der r no better opportunities for u, bt in de south der r means actually especialy made for deir woman and de previously poor, to try and develop deir economies. We claim dat we like to travel naturaly, bt truth is, we go to places like SA to get better lives, but most of our homeboys still dont get better jobs or lives, becoz we r known for bad things and fraud, so dey end up selling drugs and spending de money on protitutes. Naija shud learn to develop deir own home, and do self development as well. Truth is, nigeria is a land of cowards, who dnt wana face de truth, and wud rather keep lying to demselves thinking dey r big boys. The only thing we have going, is oil, and our men, just becoz dey have nice bodies, but ulgy faces and cant perfom well sexualy, coz dey think missionary is de only thing life has to offer, and apart from being shit abusers, dey rape people, just becoz dey have spent small change for dem, and even rape small girls, who dey have forced to child labour in deir homes, and who deir wives bit. And child labour is actualy a serious crime in other countries. Nigeria has nothing, compared to de poorest village in south africa. If u dnt believe me, spend time in both countries and compare. Y do u think south africa is so swamped wit foreigners de way america is. Guys, SA is de America of Africa, nomatter how many children we born, just to make our gdp bigger, coz its only bigger bcoz we r over pupulated, compare percentages of wealth and good lives in SA, and compare ours. Ours wud get de lowest percentage ever, but will get de highest percentage with selfishness, lies, fraud, deciete and porverty. Oops, nt forget big hads for nothing

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Re: South Africa's Economy Falls To Third Behind Nigeria, Egypt by Ilaje44(m): 9:53am On May 14, 2016
mmsen:


Hausa money changers are no longer Nigerian?

You're in no position to tell anyone about what they should do when you blatantly contradict yourself in one single post.

Hey, I believe you have issues understanding English, else you won't accuse me of contradicting myself. However, I am not surprised, when even the Nigerian high politics is also susceptible to misinterpreting straightforward and simple English and arithmetic.
It's a damned fact that a lot of Nigerians don't understand the concept of service. It's also very factual that there's a lot that can be learned from the Hausa foreign exchange dealers regarding honesty, building a relationship with customers etc.

Anyway, don't be worked up, because even people that live far away from Africa know that Nigeria is fantastically customer unfriendly among other shortcomings. You can decide to close your eyes to the issue, but that won't make the problem disappear. Wish you a refreshing and enlightening weekend.

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Re: South Africa's Economy Falls To Third Behind Nigeria, Egypt by ZeeAfrica(f): 11:20am On May 14, 2016
Question: if we r so rich, how much a country which has millions and billions of population only have 2 million members on nl?

Answer : becoz de majority in dis country is poor and cant afford data, good fones and computers
Re: South Africa's Economy Falls To Third Behind Nigeria, Egypt by ZeeAfrica(f): 11:20am On May 14, 2016
Question: if we r so rich, how much a country which has millions and billions of population only have 2 million members on nl?

Answer : becoz de majority in dis country is poor and cant afford data, good fones and computers. But we claim to b rich and better dan SA. Wer even a child has either a laptop or an iphone
Re: South Africa's Economy Falls To Third Behind Nigeria, Egypt by mikron(m): 2:03pm On May 14, 2016
ZeeAfrica:
The big walls which rich ppl build in naija are so dirty on de outside, we use gateman instead of remote controlled gates, our roads r shit, we have child labour, wer de madm wil b beating a 9 year old maid for shit, our malls r stupid, our schools r stupit, our currency is shit, our heads r big for nothing, coz we leave naija and go doop people or sell drugs in out countries, den we wana play big boy. Our education is schools r bleeped up, our hospitals and police stations r shit, actually our police seem like south african security guards who work in rural areas. De so called big shops we trust, like shoprite, r actually small fish in south africa, as dey have better shops like game, micro, pick and pay and others. De so called network which so trust, like mtn, is a south african company which even gives better service in their country, compared to de shit dey give us, and we seem to appreciate so much, coz we cant do any better.
Our so called apartments r shit, south african stock exchange still compares with real giants of de world and can give us a run for our money at anytime. De rich in naija r sellfish and like boasting, weras de rich in SA care abt de poor and dey actualy do help. Do u knw how charity organisations r der? Weras here a rich guy wud rather spend for his concubine and wear big shit and feel better, weras his neighbour goes to bed hungry. In south africa, u wud never find a 9 year old being a maid. A 9 year old is taken care off, by deir government. Free education, health and protection. Even get a social grant and an rdp house for de family, de old who cant take care of demselves get de same. If a person is realy poor, der r even homless shelters. De only street kids u find, r those kids who have run away from home becoz of being naughty and do not want descipline, and dey still even leave good and have real means of making sure dey never sleep hungry. Guys plzz lets stop deceiving our selves, naija is pure shit from de s. I guarantee u dat de only reason we have higher gdp is dat we r more populated dan ever. We keep having kids we cant take care off, and keep marrying and being housewives to stupid man, who we depend on so much, instead of being compatitive women like in south africa, woman who actualt marry wen dey r ready and have deir own wealth, instead of treating marriage as if its a profession. In naija as a woman u chase marriage, coz der r no better opportunities for u, bt in de south der r means actually especialy made for deir woman and de previously poor, to try and develop deir economies. We claim dat we like to travel naturaly, bt truth is, we go to places like SA to get better lives, but most of our homeboys still dont get better jobs or lives, becoz we r known for bad things and fraud, so dey end up selling drugs and spending de money on protitutes. Naija shud learn to develop deir own home, and do self development as well. Truth is, nigeria is a land of cowards, who dnt wana face de truth, and wud rather keep lying to demselves thinking dey r big boys. The only thing we have going, is oil, and our men, just becoz dey have nice bodies, but ulgy faces and cant perfom well sexualy, coz dey think missionary is de only thing life has to offer, and apart from being shit abusers, dey rape people, just becoz dey have spent small change for dem, and even rape small girls, who dey have forced to child labour in deir homes, and who deir wives bit. And child labour is actualy a serious crime in other countries. Nigeria has nothing, compared to de poorest village in south africa. If u dnt believe me, spend time in both countries and compare. Y do u think south africa is so swamped wit foreigners de way america is. Guys, SA is de America of Africa, nomatter how many children we born, just to make our gdp bigger, coz its only bigger bcoz we r over pupulated, compare percentages of wealth and good lives in SA, and compare ours. Ours wud get de lowest percentage ever, but will get de highest percentage with selfishness, lies, fraud, deciete and porverty. Oops, nt forget big hads for nothing
go back to school and learn to write properly. your writing is s-h-i-t
Re: South Africa's Economy Falls To Third Behind Nigeria, Egypt by mikron(m): 2:15pm On May 14, 2016
ZeeAfrica:
Question: if we r so rich, how much a country which has millions and billions of population only have 2 million members on nl?

Answer : becoz de majority in dis country is poor and cant afford data, good fones and computers
and in ur myopic thinking you believe its every Nigerian that knows about a site called nairaland? or u expect 50% of people father's to leave their very busy schedule just to become members of a forum in this case nairaland just to comment on topics here? u talk like a child and i would not be surprised if u re less that 18
Re: South Africa's Economy Falls To Third Behind Nigeria, Egypt by ZeeAfrica(f): 2:23pm On May 14, 2016
mikron:
go back to school and learn to write properly. your writing is s-h-i-t

u can insult all u want brothers. Dat will never change our economy, poverty and low standard of things in our country
Re: South Africa's Economy Falls To Third Behind Nigeria, Egypt by ZeeAfrica(f): 2:26pm On May 14, 2016
mikron:
and in ur myopic thinking you believe its every Nigerian that knows about a site called nairaland? or u expect 50% of people father's to leave their very busy schedule just to become members of a forum in this case nairaland just to comment on topics here? u talk like a child and i would not be surprised if u re less that 18

lol, truth hurts. Bro our country is shit and poverty is real here.
Re: South Africa's Economy Falls To Third Behind Nigeria, Egypt by mikron(m): 12:33am On May 15, 2016
ZeeAfrica:


lol, truth hurts. Bro our country is shit and poverty is real here.
we re not poor just that we have bad leaders that does not want the wealth to go round. Nigeria is rich, very rich wink
Re: South Africa's Economy Falls To Third Behind Nigeria, Egypt by ZeeAfrica(f): 12:40am On May 15, 2016
mikron:
we re not poor just that we have bad leaders that does not want the wealth to go round. Nigeria is rich, very rich wink

den y do so many children go to bed hungry in dis country?
Re: South Africa's Economy Falls To Third Behind Nigeria, Egypt by mikron(m): 1:08am On May 15, 2016
ZeeAfrica:


den y do so many children go to bed hungry in dis country?
like i said we have bad leaders, corrupt wicked leaders that know what is right but refused to do them. naija will get better
Re: South Africa's Economy Falls To Third Behind Nigeria, Egypt by ZeeAfrica(f): 8:23am On May 15, 2016
mikron:
like i said we have bad leaders, corrupt wicked leaders that know what is right but refused to do them. naija will get better

as long as der r kids going to bed hungry here, and others sold to slavery, den dis country is poor. Wat does de country's wealth mean, if the people in the country r poor? We judge de land thru its people. The masses here r poor, so de conclusion is, if the people r poor, den de country is poor. De people make de countrty, but it seems a few rich folks make dis country. No one cares abt de poor here. My heart bleeds, wenever is see kids forced to b maids. My brother, wat does de country's wealth mean, if de masses r in so much poverty?
Re: South Africa's Economy Falls To Third Behind Nigeria, Egypt by MPSA(m): 11:54am On May 15, 2016
mikron:
we re not poor just that we have bad leaders that does not want the wealth to go round. Nigeria is rich, very rich wink

Where is the money?, because your annual budget is the smallest in the continent grin,Rich but poor, I don't understand your point Sir grin

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Re: South Africa's Economy Falls To Third Behind Nigeria, Egypt by mikron(m): 8:05pm On May 15, 2016
MPSA:


Where is the money?, because your annual budget is the smallest in the continent grin,Rich but poor, I don't understand your point Sir grin
south africa doesnt HOLD a candle to Nigeria in terms of wealth if not for our treasury plunderers, if the amount of monies plundered from Nigeria was plundered from ur country i doubt what ur country would ve been like

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