UyiIredia:


If your case is similar to the guy then you are not an atheist. An atheist can never believe in the existence of supernatural forces because the believe only the natural world exists.

What exactly is supernatural forces?
Have you seen any, witnessed it's manifestation, measured any ?

I swear that the Toothfairy gave me $3.75 each time my tooth fell out.
Is that what you mean by supernatural?

UyiIredia:


If your case is similar to the guy then you are not an atheist. An atheist can never believe in the existence of supernatural forces because the believe only the natural world exists.

No, you just described a naturalist:

"In philosophy, [naturalism] ' is the "idea or belief that only natural (as opposed to supernatural or spiritual) laws and forces operate in the world."

"a·the·ism
ˈāTHēˌizəm/
noun
disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods."

An atheist can be a naturalist. Or an atheist can have spiritual ideas that don't coincide with a naturalist worldview. Regardless the defining factor of an atheist is the disbelief in GODS, period. Stop trying to change definitions to suit your perspective, it's dishonest.

johnydon22:

For goodness sake when will you lot learn that atheism is independent of belief in supernatural things or events.
Atheism simply means disbelief in God(s) that's all..
Whether you believe in voodoo, spirits, witches any other superstitious mumbo jumbo as long as you don't share a belief in God(s) for any reason you may have you are an atheist.
Likewise someone can have a belief in God(s) but not spirity mumbo jumbo..
that he believes in any supernatural thing he thinks is real doesn't make him any less atheistic, what makes one an atheist is simply disbelief in God(s)
Atheism is not only about sciency world view only that majority of 21st century atheist lean towards science as the most reliable way of truthful deduction about nature..

Ok but is it logical for one not to believe in the existence of god but believe in juju?
To me its very contradicting
If you believe in the supernatural but dont believe in god you are making no logical sense in your "logic". It's just ridiculous to believe in no god but believe that there are ghosts for example
I stand with uyiiredia
The day I experience the power of juju and I confirm that its very true I will humbly go back to God shikena

Martinez19:
Because something can't be see does not mean it doesn't exist. I know God exists and you can't prove it neither can I. The existence of many religion claiming to be the true religion, different churches with doctrines opposing each other and fake pastors makes it truth hard to be established. the truth remains one and varies not no matter what we say or believe.

And so what's the truth? Since you yourself just acknowledged the large fragmentation in the religious world, even within the same religion, so how do you know the truth?

cloudgoddess:

No, you just described a naturalist:

"In philosophy, [naturalism] ' is the "idea or belief that only natural (as opposed to supernatural or spiritual) laws and forces operate in the world."

"a·the·ism
ˈāTHēˌizəm/
noun
disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods."

An atheist can be a naturalist. Or an atheist can have spiritual ideas that don't coincide with a naturalist worldview. Regardless the defining factor of an atheist is the disbelief in GODS, period. Stop trying to change definitions to suit your perspective, it's dishonest.

I believe your ministry, nicely said

efismikoko:

Ok but is it logical for one not to believe in the existence of god but believe in juju?
To me its very contradicting
If you believe in the supernatural but dont believe in god you are making no logical sense in your "logic". It's just ridiculous to believe in no god but believe that there are ghosts for example
I stand with uyiiredia
The day I experience the power of juju and I confirm that its very true I will humbly go back to God shikena

I'm tired of explaining this same thing to people over and over again. everyone can think what they want, i have no more time to explain the independency of spirity beliefs and the beliefs in God(s)..

When I was younger, I used to hear stories of kidnappers kidnapping children by charming 5naira and purposely leaving it on the floor,for the greedy child to pick and turn to yam or goat. Obviously I believed this as a child, but I got older and the internet, smart phones with camera became the norm of the day and suddenly all this happenings somehow ceased.
Have you ever played that game where you pass message from a first person of a line to the last person, by whispering the message to the next person in the line, if you haven't,please do, the final received message is always totally different from the initial message.
This just goes to show you that you can trust testimony from a person because it could have been filtered or modified.


That being said, there is still this one video I watched about a cheating wife in Kenya that got locked with her lover during sex(Magun has it is called here is actually a normal phenomenon called p&nis captivitus*), they were locked until the husband released them, although the video ddnt show what exactly the man did,but it captured the look of the lover and he was freaking out, still can't rap my head around that

Elohim1:
FOR ANYTHING SUPERNATURAL TO HAPPEN THEY MUST BE A GOD CAUSE GOD ITSELF IS A SUPERNATURAL BEING

This is like saying: For anything Natural to happen there must be a man cus man himself is a natural being.

Now see the absurdity in your post

donnffd:


And so what's the truth? Since you yourself just acknowledged the large fragmentation in the religious world, even within the same religion, so how do you know the truth?

my brother, you just have to believe. Come to think of it, Mr A said God does not exist and Mr B said God exists. Mr A does not have the right to standardize his belief and impose it on Mr B. The same goes for Mr B. People who say God does not exist because they can't prove him or they want to go theoretical and logical. Who made this a standard basis. Is it not also theoretical possible that there exist a being perfect, all power, all knowing who created the universe and can't be seen but connected with through faith, who made it that not being able to see or hear God is a basis for His existence, that person should stand and prove it. As I can confidently tell God is very simple and real and the truth is in the bible. To know more, go around a true Bible believing church not the ones that will tell you that God placed a iceberg to sink Titanic killing millions of children or the ones that are too religious. Any thing else you want to know my brother.

Martinez19:
my brother, you just have to believe. Come to think of it, Mr A said God does not exist and Mr B said God exists. Mr A does not have the right to standardize his belief and impose it on Mr B. The same goes for Mr B. People who say God does not exist because they can't prove him or they want to go theoretical and logical. Who made this a standard basis. Is it not also theoretical possible that there exist a being perfect, all power, all knowing who created the universe and can't be seen but connected with through faith, who made it that not being able to see or hear God is a basis for His existence, that person should stand and prove it. As I can confidently tell God is very simple and real and the truth is in the bible. To know more, go around a true Bible believing church not the ones that will tell you that God placed a iceberg to sink Titanic killing millions of children or the ones that are too religious. Any thing else you want to know my brother.

Nicely said, but there is a problem with that response, believe. I don't think you believe the sun is hot, you just know, because it's a fact, and I dnt think you believe that 2+2=4, you just know it, that's the definition of truth, it is singular, self-evident, independent of belief, it is fact.

So I don't want to believe, I want to know and in my process of seeking knowledge, I have found that there isn't a shred of evidence for the God hypothesis.

You also mentioned something about not able to prove God, I agree perfectly, no one can prove gods existence or disprove it, but because I cannot prove or disprove that there is a red calabash revolving round the sun in between the orbits of earth and mars doesn't mean i can't reject the idea because of the grounds that it is highly unlikely...

donnffd:


Nicely said, but there is a problem with that response, believe. I don't think you believe the sun is hot, you just know, because it's a fact, and I dnt think you believe that 2+2=4, you just know it, that's the definition of truth, it is singular, self-evident, independent of belief, it is fact.

So I don't want to believe, I want to know and in my process of seeking knowledge, I have found that there isn't a shred of evidence for the God hypothesis.

You also mentioned something about not able to prove God, I agree perfectly, no one can prove gods existence or disprove it, but because I cannot prove or disprove that there is a red calabash revolving round the sun in between the orbits of earth and mars doesn't mean i can't reject the idea because of the grounds that it is highly unlikely...

when I studied philosophy, I learnt that to know something you must believe as you can't say you know but don't believe. On the other hand you can believe something you don't really know much about. I concur. The Bible says to know God you must believe that He exist and there is no other way. Scientists believe evolution but were not there during the process but they say they have evidence by virtue of similarities observed among organisms but can you rule out the fact that this similarities could mean design by Someone with a simple basic plan employing wonderful variation. Think about it.
Mathematical operations are concepts that are defined. 2+2=4 follows from the definition likewise the concept of heat. How anyone say that mere intuition is the basis of the existence of things. I go with science but there are things that beat the mind. Can you and I discuss seeming flaws in the Bible to put you in order

Martinez19:
when I studied philosophy, I learnt that to know something you must believe as you can't say you know but don't believe.

Well we can actually know something both don't believe it, like quantum spokyness, we know it happens, but its hard to accept it, even dark energy, we know its there but hard to get your head around

Scientists believe evolution but were not there during the process but they say they have evidence by virtue of similarities observed among organisms but can you rule out the fact that this similarities could mean design by Someone with a simple basic plan employing wonderful variation. Think about it.

That's not the only evidence you know, there is fossil records, embrology, vestial organs, morphology, geology, and most importantly DNA and molecular genetics. The evidence is overwhelming and it has gotten stronger over the years even the catholic church officially accepts that God used evolution to create life as do many well educated Christians. Intelligent design is a good hypothesis, but there is no evidence supporting it and science works on evidence.

Can you and I discuss seeming flaws in the Bible to put you in order

Ofcos we can, would love too

donnffd:


Well we can actually know something both don't believe it, like quantum spokyness, we know it happens, but its hard to accept it, even dark energy, we know its there but hard to get your head around




That's not the only evidence you know, there is fossil records, embrology, vestial organs, morphology, geology, and most importantly DNA and molecular genetics. The evidence is overwhelming and it has gotten stronger over the years even the catholic church officially accepts that God used evolution to create life as do many well educated Christians. Intelligent design is a good hypothesis, but there is no evidence supporting it and science works on evidence.



Ofcos we can, would love too

well, we say things are hard to believe or accept because we see no correlation or logical relationship until first hand experience or deep unbiased research and reflection. As for evolution, it is true that fossils in which mysteries abound exist even for extinct species but equating it with humans because they look alike is plausible but it lacks certainty. How can animals that don't live long undergo a million years evolution? Why can't we see evolution around us?
Concerning the seeming flaws in the Bible, there are many instances where a loving God appears to kill or permit evil. Could you pick a case you know a let trash it out?

Martinez19:
well, we say things are hard to believe or accept because we see no correlation or logical relationship until first hand experience or deep unbiased research and reflection. As for evolution, it is true that fossils in which mysteries abound exist even for extinct species but equating it with humans because they look alike is plausible but it lacks certainty. How can animals that don't live long undergo a million years evolution? Why can't we see evolution around us?
Concerning the seeming flaws in the Bible, there are many instances where a loving God appears to kill or permit evil. Could you pick a case you know a let trash it out?

Oh but we do see evolution around us, why do you think some insectides don't have effects on mosquitoes, because those mosquitoes that were resistant to it have been naturally selected. Google Lewinsky experiment and see how he showed how new traits arised in a set of bacterial, that was d definition of evolution in the lab.
It's a misconception that evolution happens in an organism lifetime, no it doesn't, its very slow changes over many many years, its like asking when does a child becomes an adult, dere is no time when a sumone went to sleep a child and woke up an adult, its happens everyday slowly and gradually that after years,you realize that the person is grown.

That aside, the story of Adam and eve, the original sin, come on its obviously a myth...then Noah, god killing babies, Sodom and Gomorrah babies again, lets start wit does

donnffd:


Oh but we do see evolution around us, why do you think some insectides don't have effects on mosquitoes, because those mosquitoes that were resistant to it have been naturally selected. Google Lewinsky experiment and see how he showed how new traits arised in a set of bacterial, that was d definition of evolution in the lab.
It's a misconception that evolution happens in an organism lifetime, no it doesn't, its very slow changes over many many years, its like asking when does a child becomes an adult, dere is no time when a sumone went to sleep a child and woke up an adult, its happens everyday slowly and gradually that after years,you realize that the person is grown.

That aside, the story of Adam and eve, the original sin, come on its obviously a myth...then Noah, god killing babies, Sodom and Gomorrah babies again, lets start wit does

one thing you should know is that God can't kill. It was a tradition of the old testament folks to attribute supernatural events to the workings of God as they don't have revelation of who Satan was. In fact you can count how many times Satan was mentioned in the old testament . The writer of Job knew Satan and told us that Satan, under permission, destroyed job's household but when we look at job's reply he said God gives and takes but now let me ask you who did it? Satan, why? Because he had the keys to death and hell until Jesus stripped him off it in revelations chapter 5. So you see death is the handiwork of lucifer. Remember Elisha and the little kids? Did God support their kill? No God made it that when His ordained prophets say a thing, it comes to pass as a proof that they are His so you see that was what was operating then and coupled with Elisha's misuse of power, 42 children died. And since death was involved, you know Satan was involved as he had the key to death and hell. You can now explain elijah' calling down of fire to kill 50 men. 2 pet. 3:9 shows you it is not God's will for men to die. Men die by ignorance, wrong choices and stupidity.
This lays down the preliminary of my teaching, any disagreement on your side before we discuss Adam and eve and the likes?

Martinez19:
one thing you should know is that God can't kill. It was a tradition of the old testament folks to attribute supernatural events to the workings of God as they don't have revelation of who Satan was. In fact you can count how many times Satan was mentioned in the old testament . The writer of Job knew Satan and told us that Satan, under permission, destroyed job's household but when we look at job's reply he said God gives and takes but now let me ask you who did it? Satan, why? Because he had the keys to death and hell until Jesus stripped him off it in revelations chapter 5. So you see death is the handiwork of lucifer. Remember Elisha and the little kids? Did God support their kill? No God made it that when His ordained prophets say a thing, it comes to pass as a proof that they are His so you see that was what was operating then and coupled with Elisha's misuse of power, 42 children died. And since death was involved, you know Satan was involved as he had the key to death and hell. You can now explain elijah' calling down of fire to kill 50 men. 2 pet. 3:9 shows you it is not God's will for men to die. Men die by ignorance, wrong choices and stupidity.
This lays down the preliminary of my teaching, any disagreement on your side before we discuss Adam and eve and the likes?

Ok i do agree an all loving God wouldnt kill but if the bible was inspired by him, why ddnt he make it clear to the writers that those deaths were on lucifers head not his?

Mind you, the flood of Noah and the destruction of sodom and gomorrah amongst a few were clearly his idea! So i dont really think the God of the old testament is as innocent as you make him sound

johnydon22:


This is like saying: For anything Natural to happen there must be a man cus man himself is a natural being.

Now see the absurdity in your post

AND HOW DO U KNOW MAN IS A NATURAL BEING

donnffd:


Ok i do agree an all loving God wouldnt kill but if the bible was inspired by him, why ddnt he make it clear to the writers that those deaths were on lucifers head not his?

Mind you, the flood of Noah and the destruction of sodom and gomorrah amongst a few were clearly his idea! So i dont really think the God of the old testament is as innocent as you make him sound

very good, you are a thinking man. I like people who don't just believe anything. Now, you should know that the new testament was written in Greek and old testament in Hebrew. Moreover, the men who translated the Bible to English made errors by adding a little based on their thinking and rationality as seen on comparison with the original text (though it is negligible) . The Bible says that the scripture is given by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. That word 'scripture' in Greek is verb not noun meaning that the urge to write was given by God but what was eventually written down was dependant on the writer's scope and revelation. Does 2 Sam 24:1 and 1 chronicles 21:1 appear to contradict? Yes it does, that shows you that the story's inspiration came from God but what was eventually written down was dependant on the writer's scope of understanding. Corruption inspired fela's music not the lyrics, beats and genre.
In that story of David, the person doing the mass killing was not God but the evil one and it was not God's anger but a disobedience to exodus 30:12. David made the census without a ransom for every man so the spirit of death capitalized on this opportunity and many people died mysteriously. And of course, the old testament folks(many) not knowing Satan attributed it to God. God gives and never takes.
Noah's case was not God's idea. Adam's sin caused death to reign not just in the body of man but the earth. Remember that it would have caused nothing for God to kill them right away isn't it? Why waste your time gathering animals and suffering a man to build a boat? Besides, he would have buried them as he buried Moses. During creation, God made two bodies of waters, one below(sea, rivers etc.) and one above meaning a body of water uniformly lined the upper atmosphere. Because death reigned, all was disintegrating and God told Noah to start building ahead of time. If God wanted to kill them, why allow Noah to warn them. They died simply because they would not heed Noah's advice and God's warning so they perished look at Jesus' statement in Matt. 24:37 no attributions to God. They died because they wouldn't listen.
To understand the Bible, you must read it in the light of the epistles so as to rightly divide the Word. Read Luke 9:51-56 Jesus was rejected but he showed the natured of God against His law-bred disciples. God can't, has never and will never kill anyone. He is love.
Any question before I race to Sodom and Gomorrah's story?

Martinez19:
very good, you are a thinking man. I like people who don't just believe anything. Now, you should know that the new testament was written in Greek and old testament in Hebrew. Moreover, the men who translated the Bible to English made errors by adding a little based on their thinking and rationality as seen on comparison with the original text (though it is negligible) . The Bible says that the scripture is given by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. That word 'scripture' in Greek is verb not noun meaning that the urge to write was given by God but what was eventually written down was dependant on the writer's scope and revelation. Does 2 Sam 24:1 and 1 chronicles 21:1 appear to contradict? Yes it does, that shows you that the story's inspiration came from God but what was eventually written down was dependant on the writer's scope of understanding. Corruption inspired fela's music not the lyrics, beats and genre.
In that story of David, the person doing the mass killing was not God but the evil one and it was not God's anger but a disobedience to exodus 30:12. David made the census without a ransom for every man so the spirit of death capitalized on this opportunity and many people died mysteriously. And of course, the old testament folks(many) not knowing Satan attributed it to God. God gives and never takes.
Noah's case was not God's idea. Adam's sin caused death to reign not just in the body of man but the earth. Remember that it would have caused nothing for God to kill them right away isn't it? Why waste your time gathering animals and suffering a man to build a boat? Besides, he would have buried them as he buried Moses. During creation, God made two bodies of waters, one below(sea, rivers etc.) and one above meaning a body of water uniformly lined the upper atmosphere. Because death reigned, all was disintegrating and God told Noah to start building ahead of time. If God wanted to kill them, why allow Noah to warn them. They died simply because they would not heed Noah's advice and God's warning so they perished look at Jesus' statement in Matt. 24:37 no attributions to God. They died because they wouldn't listen.
To understand the Bible, you must read it in the light of the epistles so as to rightly divide the Word. Read Luke 9:51-56 Jesus was rejected but he showed the natured of God against His law-bred disciples. God can't, has never and will never kill anyone. He is love.
Any question before I race to Sodom and Gomorrah's story?

Ur write up seems contradictory to d bible. U claim God has never killed anyone, so who sent down d flood/deluge during noah's time? If God is not responsible for d killings, why did he promise noah dat he will never do such again when he gave him d rainbow sign??

pennytration:
Ur write up seems contradictory to d bible. U claim God has never killed anyone, so who sent down d flood/deluge during noah's time? If God is not responsible for d killings, why did he promise noah dat he will never do such again when he gave him d rainbow sign??

concerning the promise check the original text in Hebrew. The water could no longer stay in place place because the earth was disintegrating due to death. The water fell as a heavy down pour. Saying God did it is like saying caused the earth quake we see around to happen. These earthquake would not have killed them if they knew and evacuated the area, the same with the people in time of Noah.

Martinez19:
concerning the promise check the original text in Hebrew. The water could no longer stay in place place because the earth was disintegrating due to death. The water fell as a heavy down pour. Saying God did it is like saying caused the earth quake we see around to happen. These earthquake would not have killed them if they knew and evacuated the area, the same with the people in time of Noah.

Lol. There is nothing believers wont say to defend God's babarism. Even God himself admitted he caused d killings due to d wickedness of man and not earth disintegrating

Gen. 6:13 After that, God said to Noah, ''the end of all flesh has come before me, because the earth is full of violence as a result of them; and here I am bringing them to ruin together with the earth''.

17: ''As for me, here I am bringing the deluge of waters upon the earth to bring to ruin all flesh in which the force of life is active from under the heavens. Everything that is in the earth will expire''.

So i dont know where ur theory of God not responsible foer d killings stem from

pennytration:
Lol. There is nothing believers wont say to defend God's babarism. Even God himself admitted he caused d killings due to d wickedness of man and not earth disintegrating

Gen. 6:13 After that, God said to Noah, ''the end of all flesh has come before me, because the earth is full of violence as a result of them; and here I am bringing them to ruin together with the earth''.

17: ''As for me, here I am bringing the deluge of waters upon the earth to bring to ruin all flesh in which the force of life is active from under the heavens. Everything that is in the earth will expire''.

So i dont know where ur theory of God not responsible foer d killings stem from

read the original text in Hebrew. You have to observe that the translation of the scripture to English is not accurate when subject to close comparison with the originals. I am pained that the truth has not be told in churches instead everyone is playing religion and God prosper me and prosperity in terms of money(the God of everyone and definition success ) . That is how someone said God drown the Titanic to show himself because the sailor said God can't drown the ship. Really to know God look at Christ Hebrew 1:3.

Martinez19:
read the original text in Hebrew. You have to observe that the translation of the scripture to English is not accurate when subject to close comparison with the originals. I am pained that the truth has not be told in churches instead everyone is playing religion and God prosper me and prosperity in terms of money(the God of everyone and definition success ) . That is how someone said God drown the Titanic to show himself because the sailor said God can't drown the ship. Really to know God look at Christ Hebrew 1:3.

Which original text r u talking about? So d bible we have is fake afterall.

pennytration:
Which original text r u talking about? So d bible we have is fake afterall.

the Hebrew text for the old in which it was originally written. The people who translated it to English made errors of addition of which I point out in some cases. The new testament was written in Greek and translated similarly. All these occurred during the time of King James under his instructions. The translation were made by non-Christian.

Martinez19:
the Hebrew text for the old in which it was originally written. The people who translated it to English made errors of addition of which I point out in some cases. The new testament was written in Greek and translated similarly. All these occurred during the time of King James under his instructions. The translation were made by non-Christian.

Hahahaaha. Ok, i've heard u.

pennytration:
Hahahaaha. Ok, i've heard u.

knowledge is not sorted out for in this part of the world, we are ruled by money and see its acquisition as the principal thing, this is common among Blacks. This things I have told you should be known in all churches but instead it is money, money, money. I am not surprised at the thinking of atheist, their questions are legal. When one can't account fully for what he believes, I term him a fool, why don't you ponder on what I have said.
People perish because of lack of knowledge not money yet knowledge is not highly priced. People follow foolishly with deep scrutiny. Atheists think more sensibly than most believers and their no one to present the truth as it is to the atheists do even see the way churches are competing? . Believers who can't study their books can't hope for effective Bible study. Think about what I have said don't laugh it off, I know it may be your first time of hearing this and may sound funny. One love

pennytration:
Hahahaaha. Ok, i've heard u.

knowledge is not sorted out for in this part of the world, we are ruled by money and see its acquisition as the principal thing, this is common among Blacks. These things I have told you should be known in all churches but instead it is money, money, money. I am not surprised at the thinking of atheist, their questions are legal. When one can't account fully for what he believes, I term him a fool, why don't you ponder on what I have said so far. We must not be in the band wagon.
People perish because of lack of knowledge not money yet knowledge is not highly priced. People follow foolishly without deep scrutiny. Atheists think more sensibly than most believers and their no one to present the truth as it is to the atheists do even see the way churches are competing? . Believers who can't study their books can't hope for effective Bible study. Think about what I have said don't laugh it off, I know it may be your first time of hearing this and may sound funny. One love

johnydon22:

Obviously everything i said was useless... Carry on with ever it is you think

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Hey dear, why did you reported me and cause me to be ban yesterday? I didn't say anything wrong in that trend, I even complimented you. I was of no intention to attack of criticize anybody.
I know my explanation was confusing and can lead one to believe I was purposely return to confuse the reader. But that was not my intention.

I'm not offended that I was ban but what pain me is that the message I posted was canceled. Even if you don't like it it would have help to enlighten others. Why did you allow the devil to use you to hide the truth. Others Christians where more offensive in that trend but yet they weren't ban and their offensive post were left untouched. Why have you chosen to hate me and run away from me. I'm I that scary to you? Do I intimidate you?

Come-on you are a man, why run like a little girl. God loves you dear, you can open up and tell me what is really scaring you.

Martinez19:
read the original text in Hebrew. You have to observe that the translation of the scripture to English is not accurate when subject to close comparison with the originals.

Ah yes, its always a mistranslation when Yahweh is shown to be barbaric, unkind and ruthless, yet when the text makes him appear pleasant there is never any mention of translation errors. How convenient.

cloudgoddess:

Ah yes, its always a mistranslation when Yahweh is shown to be barbaric, unkind and ruthless, yet when the text makes him appear pleasant there is never any mention of translation errors. How convenient.

have you checked it? I know you have not. Check my previous posts(by Martinez19) . Google king James and the first English Bible written in the the old English around 1611. Don't jump into conclusion.

cloudgoddess:

Ah yes, its always a mistranslation when Yahweh is shown to be barbaric, unkind and ruthless, yet when the text makes him appear pleasant there is never any mention of translation errors. How convenient.

have you checked it? I know you have not. Check my previous posts(by Martinez19) . Google king James and the first English Bible written in the the old English around 1611. Don't jump into conclusion sisi mi.