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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:58am On May 19, 2016 |
brocab: brocab, barristter who loves to lie doesn't know the Bible how can he when false jw don't believe much of it, and changes much else of what it says rev 1:8 is Jesus' angel speaking for Jesus, as we who read the Bible for what is says know, false jw read the Bible with their false doctrines in mind Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Jesus then said: Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. and these show that it is Jesus that speaks to John through His angel: Rev 1:12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; Rev 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 2:07am On May 19, 2016 |
brocab: Ha ha, dolphinheart is angry and disappointed that no Christian believes him he keeps posting his long and ridiculous posts denying scriptures and twisting them to say something else and giving false meanings to them, and no one believes him except his fellow antichrists |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 2:26am On May 19, 2016 |
I know bro, but you and I know, that is what counts. And Barristter07 and dolphinheart need believers like you and I, because we are the ones who gives them the shits. johnw74: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 2:30am On May 19, 2016 |
It's funny but dolphinheart needs us to keep him on his toes. what would he do without you and I, if we weren't around he would craw back in his box where he was last seen. johnw74: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 8:21am On May 19, 2016 |
READERS SHOULD STILL CONTINUE TO NOTE BROCABS REFUSAL TO RESPOND TO THE SCRIPTURES QUOTED TO HIM OR THE QUESTIONS POSTED TO HIM. ALSO TO BE NOTED IS THAT ONCE A RESPONSE IS BEING GIVEN TO HIM ON THE SCRIPTURES HE RAISED HE WILL NOT RESPOND AGAIN ONLY TO COME AND REPEAT THE WHOLE THING LATER. HE JUST DID THE SAME THING TO THIS POST. brocab:LIAR!!!!! if you are not a liar, Copy and paste those responses, including yours in your reply to this post. answer to the request as stipulated and do not answer parts leaving other parts unanswered. PLEASE NOTICE IF HE WILL DO THIS ITS SAD EVERYONE IS LAUGHING AT YOU DOLPHINHEART, NO-ONE IS TAKING YOU SERIOUSLY, IT MUST BE LONELY FOR YOU TRYING TO CONNECT WITH YOUR ATTITUDE. BUT DON'T WORRY I AM SMILING BEHIND YOUR BACK EVERY TIME YOU HAVE WRITTEN SUCH RUBBISH AGAINST ME.for ya mind! YOU WON'T ANSWER REVELATION OR HEBREWS BECAUSE LIKE THE REST OF YOU DONKEYS' YOU ALL BELIEVE CHRIST IS A LITTLE GOD, AND NOT THE JEHOVAH GOD WHO IS, AND WHO WAS, AND WHO IS COMING BACK. I AM THE ALPHA AND THE OMEGA THE FIRST AND THE LAST. have I ever said I wunt tell him about rev 1: 7,8? no what have I said and have been saying all this while about that scripture.? brocab quote and explain rev 1:1,4-6 and heb 1:9, tell us who is talking in rev 3:2,12. do the above and ill explain rev 1:7,8 to you. I want you to use your own words to expose yourself. have I ever deviated from the above? no Why do i insist on him first explaining rev 1:1,4-6, heb 1:9 And telling who is talking in rev 3:2,12 before telling him about rev 1:7,8? because 1. He had once postulated false teachings about rev 1:7,8, this false teachings will be exposed and cleared if we examine rev 1:1,4-6, heb 1:9 And rev 3:2,12. 2. He will, as usual run away from the issue if I give him an explanation, only to come back later to ask the same question an answer has already been given, so I've decided that on these issue, he will use his own mouth to expose himself. He knows these, he knows those scriptures I asked him to quote and explain will expose his false teachings, hence he refuses to do so!. I've even promised to explain rev 1:7,8 to him if he quotes and explain those scriptures, but he still refuses to do so. 3. The note below is a third reason ISSUES YOU REFUSE TO RESPOND TO Why the kjv removed the name of God in most places it occured in the scriptures, I've asked you about it several times, but you refuse to respond * pls note if he will respond in his reply Note : you have refused to: Just tell us the name of the church you associate with, that you are a member of!. If possible you can include its official website, at least you surpport using technology in Gods work. Tell us, do you know that Jesus Christ told someone that he has a God? And that statement was recorded in the kjv.? Can you tell us where this can be found? If you can't answer this question brocab, then you dnt know the truth about Christ!. Expecially. The one spoken by Jesus himself. Examine this questions brocab 1. If you say one body, one spirit, was Jesus a spirit before he came to earth? 2. When Jesus was on earth, was the spirit in him his, the father or the holy spirit.? 3. After Jesus left the earth, did he remain in the body or became a spirit? 4. What does Jesus mean by " the father is greater than I am" 5. Why does Jesus say he is going to the father when you are trying to say he is spirit. 6. You asked a question, the answer is yes, but ill like to ask you, what about the soul, why did you remove the soul when fomulating your question. You cannot answer if Jesus is the same person as the father. You can't do this : Simply quote and explain rev 1:1,4 -6 from any translation of your choice Tell use who is talking in rev 3:2,12..... brocab , readers will note(again) that you have NOT quoted and explained ANY of the following scriptures : 1.rev 1:1,6 2. Rev 3, 2,13 3. John 17:1-3 4. Heb 1:1 -9 5. John 20:17 6. 1 cor 11:3 7 . 1 ti 2 :5,6 8.Acts 4:10 9. Acts 2:36 10. Acts 2:24 11. Acts 5:30 12.Acts 10:38,40,43 11. Phil 2:9,11 12. john 14:6 13. Acts 4 : 26,27, 30 14. 1 john 4:14 15. Heb 5:7 16. ps 28:18 And a host of others Brocab , examine these scripture Acts 5: 31. Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins. John 3:16. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Jesus is Gods only begotten son, Jesus is not God! 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 10:13am On May 19, 2016 |
dolphinheart:insults as usual. U dolphins says Jesus has the same nature as God which means If God is Almighty then Jesus is Almighty If God is holy then Jesus is holy If God is righteous then Jesus is righteous. Cos Jesus has same nature as God ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 12:00pm On May 19, 2016 |
[quote author=dolphinheart post=45748256] where did u get this Isa 9:6For a child has been born to us, A son has been given to us; And the rulership will rest on his shoulder. His name will be called Wonderful Counselor,this is enough to prove who Jesus is. Joh 1:18No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is at the Father’s side is the one who has explained Him.Jesus is God JESUS BEING A GOD, STILL HAS A GODThe Father called Jesus God why don't you address that. The Son of God is God,just like The Son of Man is Man Joh 20:17Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father AND TO MY GOD AND YOUR GOD. 1Co 11:3But I want you to know that the head of every man is the Christ; in turn, the head of a woman is the man; in turn, THE HEAD OF CHRIST IS GOD. Eph 1:17that THE GOD OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the accurate knowledge of him.Jesus is still a man na how many times will u be told. JESUS IS SUBJECTED AND LOYAL TO THAT GODDid u really read philipians2:6-8. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 12:20pm On May 19, 2016 |
solite3: pls show where I had insulted you now of before I have in detail explained what having the same nature entails, you refused to respond, only to come here and post false theories. Jesus has a God? yes or no jesus is subjected to that God ? yes or no if jesus have a God, how can He then be almighty God ! 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 12:32pm On May 19, 2016 |
dolphinheart:did u read philippians2:6-8?u re arguing blindly. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 12:33pm On May 19, 2016 |
[quote author=solite3 post=45766312][/quote] everyone can see that you could not respond, quote and explain the scriptures quoted in the post. pls if you cannot explain those scriptures, pls leave and let the person it was quoted for explain them the scriptures does not contradict itself 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 12:39pm On May 19, 2016 |
solite3: I've not only quoted philipians 2:6-8 to you, I explained to you what is written there, you muddled up your reply so that I will not be able to reply, I've asked you to correct your post, you refused till now. pls show where I had insulted you now of before I have in detail explained what having the same nature entails, you refused to respond, only to come here and post false theories. Jesus has a God? yes or no Jesus is subjected to that God ? yes or no if Jesus have a God, how can He then be almighty God ! other questions posted to you are still awaiting your response [b]1. On April 27, I asked you to do this: " maybe you that knows the implication can explain what you understand by what's recorded in revelation 1:1, 4-6 and tell us who is talking in rev 3:2,12. finally can you tell us what you think about heb 1:9 " 2. on April 27 jEphz made this request "for those saying Jesus is God.. pls. explain these Scripture for me ... Ephesians 5:1,2 1timothy 2:5 John 8:42 Act 2:22 Hebrews 12:2...... " 3. jozzy4 asked you on April 29 " the God of our Lord Jesus Christ " Eph 1:17, who is the God of Jesus Christ ? 4. "You say Jesus is still a man in heaven, you also say Jesus has a God when he was a man. NOW DOES Jesus STILL HAVE A GOD IN HEAVEN?" who anointed Jesus? who is that person to Jesus? 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 12:47pm On May 19, 2016 |
dolphinheart:dolphineheart u re the contradicting d scriptures.I responded to your questions but u said I didn't respond the way u wanted.hmm.I am not a robot |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 12:54pm On May 19, 2016 |
solite3: pls solite3, post your response again, and if you cannot post it, pls tell us the time and date you responded to it . I'll go there and reply you. pls show where I had insulted you now of before Jesus has a God? yes or no Jesus is subjected to that God ? yes or no if Jesus have a God, how can He then be almighty God ! your questions are still pending [b]1. On April 27, I asked you to do this: " maybe you that knows the implication can explain what you understand by what's recorded in revelation 1:1, 4-6 and tell us who is talking in rev 3:2,12. finally can you tell us what you think about heb 1:9 " 2. on April 27 jEphz made this request "for those saying Jesus is God.. pls. explain these Scripture for me ... Ephesians 5:1,2 1timothy 2:5 John 8:42 Act 2:22 Hebrews 12:2...... " 3. jozzy4 asked you on April 29 " the God of our Lord Jesus Christ " Eph 1:17, who is the God of Jesus Christ ? 4. "You say Jesus is still a man in heaven, you also say Jesus has a God when he was a man. NOW DOES Jesus STILL HAVE A GOD IN HEAVEN?" who anointed Jesus? who is that person to Jesus? you can see that the questions are numbered, so dnt muddle it up , or give part response 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 1:02pm On May 19, 2016 |
[quote author=dolphinheart post=45767474] I've not only quoted philipians 2:6-8 to you, I explained to you what is written there, you muddled up your reply so that I will not be able to reply, I've asked you to correct your post, you refused till now.I didn't ask u all these,did u read n understand philippians2:6-8? Yes or No.simple pls show where I had insulted you now of beforeI can't go back to your posts oga I have in detail explained what having the same natureoga where was that , you refused to respond, only to come here and post false theories.d word of God is now a theory Jesus has a God? yes or noblind n needless argument. If only u believe what is written other questions posted to you are still awaiting your responseI don't know what u hope to achieve by this needless n meaningless question.D bible prohibit such |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 1:06pm On May 19, 2016 |
dolphinheart:your questions will soon reach 1 million,keep multiplying [quote]it ![]() |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 1:40pm On May 19, 2016 |
solite3: not multiplying, just repeating it to show you you have/will/refused to answer them pls show where I had insulted you now of before Jesus has a God? yes or no Jesus is subjected to that God ? yes or no if Jesus have a God, how can He then be almighty God ! your questions are still pending [b]1. On April 27, I asked you to do this: " maybe you that knows the implication can explain what you understand by what's recorded in revelation 1:1, 4-6 and tell us who is talking in rev 3:2,12. finally can you tell us what you think about heb 1:9 " 2. on April 27 jEphz made this request "for those saying Jesus is God.. pls. explain these Scripture for me ... Ephesians 5:1,2 1timothy 2:5 John 8:42 Act 2:22 Hebrews 12:2...... " 3. jozzy4 asked you on April 29 " the God of our Lord Jesus Christ " Eph 1:17, who is the God of Jesus Christ ? 4. "You say Jesus is still a man in heaven, you also say Jesus has a God when he was a man. NOW DOES Jesus STILL HAVE A GOD IN HEAVEN?" who anointed Jesus? who is that person to Jesus? you can see that the questions are numbered, so dnt muddle it up , or give part response 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 1:57pm On May 19, 2016 |
dolphinheart: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 2:01pm On May 19, 2016 |
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 2:16pm On May 19, 2016 |
[quote author=solite3 post=45768151][/quote] 1. Yes I did read philipians 2: 6-8 and I understood it. I quoted it to you showing I read it, and I explained it to you, showing I understand. I went further to add scriptures that surpport my understanding of philipians chapter 2 . 2. your refusal to show where I insulted you before or during your allegations shows you raised a false unsubstantiated allegations against me. I've warned you repeatedly to stop making allegations you can't show proof of. 3. When did I explain my statement about Jesus having the same nature as God ? first time: may 9 2016, 2:33pm, on these thread col1:15 and heb 1:3 second time: may 9 2016, 4:24PM, on these thread third time: may 11 2016, 12:46pm, on these thread while you where lying against me that I said Jesus and his father both have one nature. 4. your word's are theories and a twisting of the direct words found in the scriptures, while you refuse to quote and explain scriptures that show you the truth. They are not blind arguments, they are not meaningless questions the answers to those questions will go a long way to show if you are telling the truth or not pls show where I had insulted you now of before Jesus has a God? yes or no Jesus is subjected to that God ? yes or no if Jesus have a God, how can He then be almighty God ! your questions are still pending 1. On April 27, I asked you to do this: " maybe you that knows the implication can explain what you understand by what's recorded in revelation 1:1, 4-6 and tell us who is talking in rev 3:2,12. finally can you tell us what you think about heb 1:9 " 2. on April 27 jEphz "for those saying Jesus is God.. pls. explain these Scripture for me ... Ephesians 5:1,2 1timothy 2:5 John 8:42 Act 2:22 Hebrews 12:2...... " 3. April 29 " the God of our Lord Jesus Christ " Eph 1:17, who is the God of Jesus Christ ? 4. "You say Jesus is still a man in heaven, you also say Jesus has a God when he was a man. NOW DOES Jesus STILL HAVE A GOD IN HEAVEN?" who anointed Jesus? who is that person to Jesus? you can see that the questions are numbered, so dnt muddle it up , or give part response 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Barristter07: 9:09pm On May 19, 2016 |
johnw74 johnw74: no Matter how hard u try, this your lie lie John will always be exposed [i] " look out Jesus , said a DISCIPLE " liarrrrrrrrrr ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Barristter07: 9:24pm On May 19, 2016 |
brocab brocab: brocab who ask you all this , BUSTED !, ![]() [size=27] @ Rev 1:8 , the person speaking is described as the Almighty , greek /pantokrator/ [/size] Strong's Concordance pantokratór: almighty Original Word: παντοκράτωρ, ορος, ὁ Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine Transliteration: pantokratór Phonetic Spelling: (pan-tok-rat'-ore) Short Definition: ruler of the universe Definition: [size=26] ruler of all, ruler of the universe, the almighty. [/size] brocab, is Jesus the Ruler of ALL ? 1 Corinthians15:28 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 9:36pm On May 19, 2016 |
Dolphineheart I av posted two of your insults one to me were u said I av bad trait n d oda to brocab calling him a liar. Do u now c that u insults people but take it as normal. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Jozzy4: 9:51pm On May 19, 2016 |
brocab: BROCAB , can you see that HIM who is , who was and who is to come is IS DIFFERENTIATED FROM Jesus Christ ? @ bold.
the bolded strikethrough is a lie, not in the Greek manuscript . only a lie needs such spurious addition. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 9:56pm On May 19, 2016 |
dolphinheart:u select verses for me to interpret even when I give u answers u say I didn't answer it the way u want or they are theories but u ignore mine n pretend it does not exist.1. Yes I did read philipians 2: 6-8 and I understood it. I quoted it to you showing I read it, and I explained it to you, showing I understand. I went further to add scriptures that surpport my understanding of philipians chapter 2 .first if u really had read n understand that passage ur questions would be needless2. your refusal to show where I insulted you before or during your allegations shows you raised a false unsubstantiated allegations against me. I've warned you repeatedly to stop making allegations you can't show proof ofI av posted it not just me but also brocab.3. When did I explain my statement about Jesus having the same nature as God ?oga u didn'tfirst time: may 9 2016, 2:33pm, on these threadcan u search them out n repost them |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 9:57pm On May 19, 2016 |
]1. Yes I did read philipians 2: 6-8 and I understood it. I quoted it to you showing I read it, and I explained it to you, showing I understand. I went further to add scriptures that surpport my understanding of philipians chapter 2 . [/quote]first if u really had read n understand that passage ur questions would be needless 2. your refusal to show where I insulted you before or during your allegations shows you raised a false unsubstantiated allegations against me. I've warned you repeatedly to stop making allegations you can't show proof ofI av posted it not just me but also brocab. 3. When did I explain my statement about Jesus having the same nature as God ?oga u didn't first time: may 9 2016, 2:33pm, on these threadcan u search them out n repost them while you where lying against me that I said Jesus and his father both have one nature.u said Jesus has same nature as God 4. your word's are theories and a twisting of the direct words found in the scriptures, while you refuse to quote and explain scriptures that show you the truth.y were u now asking for my view before when u have made u ur mind not to believe them even the verses I gave u were also theories They are not blind arguments, they are not meaningless questionsvery very blind n meaningless pls show where I had insulted you now of beforeI av posted them [s]Jesus has a God? yes or nodo u agree that the father called Jesus God? your questions are still pending[/quote]u select verses for me to interpret even when I give u answers u say I didn't answer it the way u want or they are theories but u ignore mine n pretend it does not exist. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 10:41pm On May 19, 2016 |
Revelation 1:8 is really about who was speaking n that person was Jesus Revelation 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the endingsaith the Lord which is,which was, and which is to come,the almighty. PLEASE NOTE VERSE TEN AND ELEVEN VS10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day,and heard behind me a great voice,as of a trumpet. 11. Saying I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, what thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto pergamos, and unto thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia and unto Laodicea we can see that it was the same voice that identify himself in vs 11 as Alpha n Omega is the same in vs8 AND WHO IS THAT PERSON? Vs 12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; 13. And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. Again the question is about who was talking and who referred to himself as Alpha n Omega in those verses |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 11:51pm On May 19, 2016 |
Barristter07: @red, stop lying barristter, although I know you can't help it I haven't tried even once to explain the truth that I said and that's why you are so obsessed and posessed In your head you think I have lied but I have exposed very many of false jw lies and there seems no end to them If I am a liarrrrrrrrrr then how much more so is false jw false jw loves to lie over and over again |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:23am On May 20, 2016 |
barristter, more false jw lies for you so far the score is very many to none, you lose big time 1.John 10:30-34 is a section of verses where the Pharisees say that Jesus is making Himself out to be God (v. 33). 1."I and the Father are one. Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus said to them, 'I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?' 'We are not stoning you for any of these,' replied the Jews, 'but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.'" 2.You can say, "See, even the Jews knew He was claiming to be God." The Jehovah's Witness (if he's quick enough) will say something like, "Jesus wasn't God. The Jews only thought that Jesus was claiming to be God." Then you can say, "Oh, I see. Then let me get this right. You agree with the Pharisees, Jesus wasn't God? Is that correct?" The Jehovah's Witness will not like it that he agrees with a Pharisee. 2.Plurality in the Godhead. 1.The following group of Scriptures strongly suggests a plurality within the Godhead. These verses are translated correctly in the Jehovah's Witness Bible, so you can encourage them to use it. The NIV is not as literal in its translation in the Amos verses, so I recommend using either the King James or the New American Standard Bible when doing your own. 1.Gen. 1:26, "Then God said, 'Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness . . . '" 1.They will say that angels are the ones who helped God make man. However, there is no Scriptural evidence for that. God is the only creator. 2.You can also take him to Col. 1:15-17 where it says that Jesus is the creator of all things--including man and Isaiah 44:24 where it says that God created the heavens and the earth all alone. 2.Gen. 19:24, "Then the LORD [Jehovah] rained on Sodom and Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD [Jehovah] out of heaven." 1.Is this saying there are two Lords, two Jehovah's? 3.Amos 4:10-11, 'I sent a plague among you after the manner of Egypt; I slew your young men by the sword along with your captured horses, and I made the stench of your camp rise up in your nostrils; yet you have not returned to Me,' declares the LORD. I overthrew you as God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah . . . '" 1.Jehovah is the one talking, and He says, "I overthrew you as God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah . . . " Very interesting. 4.Isaiah 44:6, "Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: 'I am the first and I am the last, and there is no God besides me . . . '" See also, Isaiah 48:16. 5.If you are reading these verses to a Jehovah's Witness, he might say something like, "Are you trying to show the Trinity from these verses?" You can then say, "You got the Trinity out of these?" 6.These verses and others are more fully developed in The Plurality Study, which is a powerful tool for witnessing to the Witnesses. 3.John 20:25 says, "The other disciples therefore were saying to him, 'We have seen the Lord!' But he said to them, 'Unless I shall see in His hands the imprint of the nails, and put my finger into the place of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe,'" (NASB). 1.The Jehovah's Witnesses deny that Jesus was crucified on a cross. They say it happened on a torture stake where His wrists were put together over His head and a single nail was put through both. If that is true, then why does Thomas say, "Unless I shall see in His hands the imprint of the nails . . . " In the Greek the word used here for "nails," helos, is in the plural. Therefore, there was more than one nail used in the hands of the crucifixion of Christ. 4.First and Last. 1.How many firsts and lasts are there? In the Bible God is called the first and last and so is Jesus. Since God says there is no God apart from Him and Jesus and God are both addressed by the same title, then that poses a problem for the Jehovah's Witness. 1.Isaiah 44:6, "This is what the LORD says---Israel's King and Redeemer, the LORD Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God." 2.Revelation 1:8, "I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." 3.Revelation 1:17-18, "When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: "Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. I am the Living One; I was dead, and behold I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades." 1.Obviously, Rev. 1:17-18 can only refer to Jesus. 4.Revelation 22:12-13, "Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End." 1.Here, both the "Alpha and the Omega" and the "First and the Last" are said to be one and the same. 2.Also, at this point go to Titus 2:13 where it says that Jesus is the one who is coming soon, therefore, Jesus and Jehovah are the same. 5.The Holy Spirit 1.Jehovah's Witnesses teach that the Holy Spirit is an active force like radar. They deny that He is alive and that He is a person. This is, of course, because they deny the Trinity. Yet, if the Holy Spirit is simply a force then . . . 1.Why is He called God (Acts 5:3-5)? 2.How is it that He can teach (John 14:26)? 3.How can He be blasphemed (Matt. 12:31, 32)? 4.How can He be the one who comforts (Acts 9:31)? 5.How is it possible for Him to speak (Acts 28:25)? 6.How then can He be resisted (Acts 7:51)? 7.How can He be grieved (Eph. 4:30)? 8.How can He help us in our weaknesses (Rom. 8:26)? 2.If the Holy Spirit is a force, then how is it possible that the above-mentioned characteristics are attributed to Him? A force doesn't speak, teach, comfort, etc. 3.Nor can you blaspheme against a force. 6.The Resurrection of Jesus 1.The Jehovah's Witnesses deny the physical resurrection of Jesus. They say that if the sacrifice of Jesus were real, then the body had to stay in the grave. They say that He rose in a spirit body. This body was a manifestation similar to the way angels manifested themselves in the Old Testament. 1.The problem with their view is that the angels were not incarnated, that is, they are not born of women. Jesus became a man by birth, therefore, He had a real, physical body--a permanent body. In fact, right now, Jesus is in Heaven in the form of a man though He is a glorified man. Also, He still has two natures, God and man, and will eternally be in this state. 2.Jesus rose from the dead in the same body He died in. For Scriptural proof of this, consider the following verses. 1.In John 2:19-22 before the crucifixion Jesus said, "Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up . . . He was speaking of the temple of His body." Since Jesus said He would raise the same body He died in, then it must be true. 1.This last verse is worth focusing on. Remember, Jesus said that He would be the one to raise His body. So, it must be true. 2.John 20:27--Jesus said to Thomas, "reach your finger . . . and put it into My side . . . " 1.If Jesus were not raised from the dead, then why did He have a physical body? 2.The Jehovah's Witnesses will reply that it was a temporary body materialized so the apostles would believe that He was raised. Yet, this is not what Jesus said in John 2:19-22. He said that He would raise His very body. 3.Luke 24:39--"a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I have." 1.Jesus said that He had "flesh and bones" not "flesh and blood." This is important because flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God (1 Cor. 15:50). The blood of Jesus was the sacrifice for sin (Rom. 5:9). It is the blood that cleanses us of our sin (Heb. 9:22). 2.The blood of Jesus was shed on the cross, and so, most probably, Jesus doesn't have any functioning blood in His body. 7.Similarities between the Jehovah's Witnesses and the Pharisees: 1.The Pharisees denied the Trinity and the Deity of Christ--as do the JW's. 2.The Pharisees denied the physical resurrection of Christ and salvation by grace alone--as do the JW's. A Biblical Response to Jehovah's Witnesses by Matt Slick https://carm.org/biblical-response-to-jehovahs-witnesses ^^^ a better format at the site, easier reading there |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:10am On May 20, 2016 |
dolphinheart: @bold, you do err, it is your god satan that is chief of liars his spirit can be seen in you right now Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:21am On May 20, 2016 |
solite3: They will never understand, and they cannot: 2Co 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 2Co 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. their god blinds their minds |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Jozzy4: 6:07am On May 20, 2016 |
johnw74: bold fits you @ johnw74 Barrister don show you pepper , pls mr liar where did a disciple tell Jesus he should look out they want to trap him ? 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Jozzy4: 6:29am On May 20, 2016 |
solite3: Jesus IS NOT Him who is , who was and who is to come . (Rev 1:4-6] Jesus is a faithful witness of that one . its Him who is, who was and who is to come ,Jesus God and Father thats speaking in verse 8 .
@ saying : thats when Jesus speaks
your own focus is alpha and omega. SO WEAK ! two people sharing same title doesnt make them same person , your desperation to insert Jesus into verse 8 when its clear that the one speakin is not Jesus ( Rev 1:4-6] is weak. can u say Jesus is actually the 12 apostles because both ar called APOSTLE ?
your case is pathetic o, John turn to see the voice that speak with him in verse 11 SAYING he should write to the seven congregations of Asia [size=28] 11: Saying [/size] I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, what thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto pergamos, and unto thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia and unto Laodicea not the voice of verse 8
Even Jesus and his 12 disciple are all called "APOSTLE" mr . ![]() Read verse 1: 4-6 , the scripture did a perfect Job separating Him who is, who was and who is to come from Jesus the faithful witness. 1 Like |
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