hahn:


Bro, there is nothing more evil than threatening someone in hell. You need to read your bible more often to read up on how Jehovah committed lots of crimes against humanity.

At the end of the day, Christianity and Islam are just opposite sides of the coin.

Who's talking about what was done in the old testament.? Like i said and you still didn't use or apply the logic. Those were historical scenes and not a command if you're gonna talk about Christianity. And talking about hell is to let you know, knowing the consequences of evil actions any Christian who claims to be one can't be a true one and still engage in such. If you truly believe God did alot against mankind then you must have some sort of belief that He's the creator of that live and then at such you should study those passages of the bible you refer to or rather come out fair if you already did. I think you people can't just cope with the fact that God can't behold sin, and that's the issue. He cannot and would never, sin is still punishable like it has always been and that's the thing any atheist also have issue with, you sound like one. God had certain level of tolerance then and i tell you, according to the bible, then salvation was solely for the jews alone and adopted jews so He treated them as such and anyone who war against them were dealt with and He also dealt with them when they went wrong too.

Christianity and what we are founded upon is just different from of old. Get it this way so you never merge Christianity with Judaism.
We're in the era of grace through Christ. Whatever sin committed is rested upon Christ, but love supersedes now. God hates the sin but loves the sinner, so the sinner is having that weight of sin on his own shoulder but the moment he comes to the feet of the cross and surrenders all to Christ, repent! Christ takes away his/her sin and that moment isn't viewed with the weight of sin he ones had but then he must keep working on his faith and not do things that are unchristlike expecting to be called a Christian.
The difference we try to make known now and why we say talk about the new testament is that we refer to the old testament with love when it deals with those areas you consider bad. The ultimate penalty is eternal death so you're free, God let's you be until grace finds you, you accept the work of grace and open your heart to accept Christ. But sadly if you die in sin it's then the very wrath of God will be known.
Because you walked this earth heard alot about Christ but rejected Him.

Actually it's the love of God that any sinner still live till He repents because a sinner is more porous to evil.
Sometimes i imagine how we humans are. If people so much abuse the name of God and still live that shows how He loves them and still waiting. Can you create a being and it rebels against you because you gave he/she free will and you'll like it? if you were you would have crushed that being because they got great reasoning to not do so but on His case. He sent his Son to pay the price for you and redeem you to himself. Brother repentance is important and accepting Christ and start thinking the right way not merging Judaism to Christianity.

Baaballiyo:
Lol, these Christians and atheist kept saying the Quran encourage violence and hadith also encourage it, pls give us a quote, or a reference to the specific hadith or verse so that we can dissect it. Stop giving blank references or saying hearsays.

Quoran 9:29-30Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.

The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah ." That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?


Quoran 9:5 And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

Quoran 8:39 And fight them until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion, all of it, is for Allah. And if they cease - then indeed, Allah is Seeing of what they do

HalimaSadiya:

I'm not your "friend" and yes I'm from a core Muslim family (Let me use family) and I'm definitely not a "commodity" I don't know where you get your lies from and don't use "Saudi Arabia" it is their culture have you been to any North African country ? Aren't they Muslims too ?

Islamic hypocrite, the sunnah of the islamic prophet is now saudi culture. How do you separate culture and religion? Culture and religion go hand-in-hand. As a matter of fact, religion is part of the cultural identity of people. The indians religious cultural identity is hindu, the Jews is judaism, the europeans is christianity, the japanese is budhism while the japanese are shintos, the custosdian of the samurai tradition.

I know you are lady but women are commodity in islam, it is both a religious and cultural practice, especially in core islamic society. In a core islamic society, a woman cannot trave alone without the company of a male guardian who might be her father, brother, son or husband. If a woman is raped, she will be punished while the perpetrator is left alone because it is believed that the women are liable for men's sexual misconduct.

In islamic countries, the testimony of a women in court is not equal to that of a man. In the area of inheritance, the son got twice as much as the daughters. In fact, islam institutes high level misogyny and divinely approves violence against 'disobedient' wives.

To continue later.

tosinjay:

Who's talking about what was done in the old testament.? Like i said and you still didn't use or apply the logic. Those were historical scenes and not a command if you're gonna talk about Christianity.

It is quite ironical how your opening statement dismisses the rest of your comment. The coming of the "messiah" was supposedly forseen in the old testament. If you insist that I dismiss the content of the old testament as "historical scenes" then I can easily conclude that Jesus is not the messiah because the prophecy itself is nothing but a "historical scene".

Fortunately for us, Jesus never existed

hahn:


It is quite ironical how your opening statement dismisses the rest of your comment. The coming of the "messiah" was supposedly forseen in the old testament. If you insist that I dismiss the content of the old testament as "historical scenes" then I can easily conclude that Jesus is not the messiah because the prophecy itself is nothing but a "historical scene".

Fortunately for us, Jesus never existed

This is not another atheist versus Christian debate. As regards to the topic the op got here is what my comments refers to. While the quran commands all age to partake it those that of the bible was historical, why must you try to bring another of you guys thing into all talks. If Jesus never existed go do your own research better then. Go to Israel and investigate, the jews who don't believe in Him never claim He didn't exist yet some people from thousands miles away be saying what they like. You can claim any pastor says this or that and it won't change anything. The bible let's us know anyone can stray, people can become apostate. People can even be true to some stage until they start what their aim was which is to pest on the faith.

The reason why we humans must be careful is because we're involved in a battle within good and evil. God and satan.
You're atheist and don't believe in God or satan, it's fine by satan as you're still doing his biddings, you serve idols, it's fine by him. Anything other than serving God in truth and in spirit is fine by satan as long as you don't take Christ serious and your eternity so serious. He cares less if you think he exists or not because he knows the joke ends on earth. The greatest delusion one could ever have is thinking he doesn't exist because that person is actually at the position he wants them to.

Modified

tosinjay:

This is not another atheist versus Christian debate. As regards to the topic the op got here is what my comments refers to. While the quran commands all age to partake it those that of the bible was historical, why must you try to bring another of you guys thing into all talks. If Jesus never existed go do your own research better then. Go to Israel and investigate, the jews who don't believe in Him never claim He didn't exist yet some people from thousands miles away be saying what they like. You can claim any pastor says this or that and it won't change anything. The bible let's us know anyone can stray, people can become apostate. People can even be true to some stage until they start what their aim was which is to pest on the faith.

Lol. @ emboldened again. Your hypocrisy is normal for a christian sha. I am not surprised

hahn:


Lol. @ emboldened again. Your hypocrisy is normal for a christian sha. I am not surprised

Hypocrisy, ok chill remain at your lane let's move on.... Una no dey reason within context at all. Tell you something else you forget what was earlier said and face another. Bye

To all the people that quoted me I'm surprised none of you have written anything about those evil Bible passages I shared earlier GTFO you hypocrites , didn't Mary the mother of Jesus get married at a young age ? Where is your proof that the prophet is a "paedophile" , yes they got married but bring out evidence to say they had any intimacy you people are comedians. I can't believe the ignorance displayed by you people on this thread you say Islam is violent Christianity is peace ? Where did that come from ? Confused set of people preaching different doctrines you have the "Deeper life" , "MFM" , "Catholic" and so on all giving their own interpretations on how a Christian should be Astaghfirullah today is Friday just quote me and I'll put you where you belong . I have more violent Bible passages to share from the new testament anyway lol.

You don't know what you're talking about. Do Muslims also not do money rituals?

Heres the difference... Mohammed killed, beheaded, married a 6 year old, raided caravans, raped , even married his adopted Son's Wife, spread Islam violently and along with his cousins beheaded over 700 people just for being non Muslims. And Muslims are to follow in Mohammed's footsteps right??

Christians on the other are followers of Jesus Christ. Jesus never killed,, beheaded nor stole, he showed love and care to everyone including little children Jesus was not a pedophile, nor a philanderer, he healed the sick, raised the dead, Mohammed did none of these.

Also Mohammed hated Jews and Christians, also hated hated the blind, disabled etc and said they're the worst of mankind. But Christ asked us to commanded. everyone equally just as we love our own selves.

So Why won't we the hate Islam?? But mind you, we don't hate Muslims.

HalimaSadiya:

No my dear , they pretend in the name of Islam they are not real Muslims or else all Muslims around the globe would have been terrorists by now , so you mean the "Christains" who also kill for rituals , kidnap and all sorts are doing it also because of Religion no no no...condemn the people committing those crimes not the entire religion

Amberon:
You don't know what you're talking about. Do Muslims also not do money rituals?

Heres the difference... Mohammed killed, beheaded, married a 6 year old, raided caravans, raped , even married his adopted Son's Wife, spread Islam violently and along with his cousins beheaded cover 700 people just for being

Did you read my post earlier on those evil Bible passages you Christians love to ignore , should I post more from the new testament where there's violence and all sorts of nasty things ? Where all who oppose Christ's teachings will be killed ? I thought you were supposed to love your enemies ? Mmmhhh so peaceful

Wtf ? Please read the crap you wrote Culture and religion go hand to hand ? Let me assume you're from the East is your culture in synchronicity with a Christian from the West ? Are you this dumb ? I should have just stopped when I read that part and FYI you're just as much as a hypocrite as I am even worse. Bye

true2god:
Islamic hypocrite, the sunnah of the islamic prophet is now saudi culture. How do you separate culture and religion? Culture and religion go hand-in-hand. As a matter of fact, religion is part of the cultural identity of people. The indians religious cultural identity is hindu, the Jews is judaism, the europeans is christianity, the japanese is budhism while the japanese are shintos, the custosdian of the samurai tradition.

I know you are lady but women are commodity in islam, it is both a religious and cultural practice, especially in core islamic society. In a core islamic society, a woman cannot trave alone without the company of a male guardian who might be her father, brother, son or husband. If a woman is raped, she will be punished while the perpetrator is left alone because it is believed that the women are liable for men's sexual misconduct.

In islamic countries, the testimony of a women in court is not equal to that of a man. In the area of inheritance, the son got twice as much as the daughters. In fact, islam institutes high level misogyny and divinely approves violence against 'disobedient' wives.

To continue later.

I just modified my post. Go and re read.

Mind you reading from your apocryphal books won't do you no good. Read the bible, Jesus never killed nor commanded anyone to kill.

We as Christians are followers of Christ. Christianity started after Jesus died came and died for our sins, so anything beyond that wasn't Christianity.


Now let me ask you, the people who killed Christ, were they Christians? No! they weren't because they didn't follow Christ. But they thought they were serving God. If they were Christians why did they all Christ?


By the way, the barbaric sharia law that teaches people to stone, behead, maim people, amputate and kill was founded on which tenets?? Islam! no?

HalimaSadiya:

Did you read my post earlier on those evil Bible passages you Christians love to ignore , should I post more from the new testament where there's violence and all sorts of nasty things ? Where all who oppose Christ's teachings will be killed ? I thought you were supposed to love your enemies ? Mmmhhh so peaceful

HalimaSadiya:
To all the people that quoted me I'm surprised none of you have written anything about those evil Bible passages I shared earlier GTFO you hypocrites , didn't Mary the mother of Jesus get married at a young age ? Where is your proof that the prophet is a "paedophile" , yes they got married but bring out evidence to say they had any intimacy you people are comedians. I can't believe the ignorance displayed by you people on this thread you say Islam is violent Christianity is peace ? Where did that come from ? Confused set of people preaching different doctrines you have the "Deeper life" , "MFM" , "Catholic" and so on all giving their own interpretations on how a Christian should be Astaghfirullah today is Friday just quote me and I'll put you where you belong . I have more violent Bible passages to share from the new testament anyway lol.

Seems you are a new comer on nairaland. Nobody is accusing your prophet or religion faslsely, but your quran and hadith already judge your prophet as a terrorist and a violent man. See below fya:

Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror, and while I was sleeping, the keys of the treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand." Abu Huraira added: Allah's Apostle has left the world and now you, people, are bringing out those treasures. ( Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 220 )

Abu Huraira reported that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: I have been given superiority over the other prophets in six respects: I have been given words which are concise but comprehensive in meaning; I have been helped by terror (in the hearts of enemies): spoils have been made lawful to me: the earth has been made for me clean and a place of worship; I have been sent to all mankind and the line of prophets is closed with me. (Sahih Muslim, Book 004, Number 1062 , 1063, 1066, 1067)

The Qur'an declares: Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority: their abode will be the Fire: And evil is the home of the wrong-doers! (quran 3:151)

Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them." This because they contended against Allah and His Messenger: If any contend against Allah and His Messenger, Allah is strict in punishment. (quran 8:12-13)

Let not the unbelievers think that they can get the better (of the godly): they will never frustrate (them). Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly. (quran 8:59-60)

And Allah turned back the Unbelievers for (all) their fury: no advantage did they gain; and enough is Allah for the believers in their fight. And Allah is full of Strength, able to enforce His Will. And those of the People of the Book who aided them - Allah did take them down from their strongholds and cast terror into their hearts. (So that) some ye slew, and some ye made prisoners. And He made you heirs of their lands, their houses, and their goods, and of a land which ye had not frequented (before). And Allah has power over all things. (quran 33:25-27)

It is He Who got out the Unbelievers among the People of the Book from their homes at the first gathering (of the forces). Little did ye think that they would get out: And they thought that their fortresses would defend them from Allah! But the (Wrath of) Allah came to them from quarters from which they little expected (it), and cast terror into their hearts, so that they destroyed their dwellings by their own hands and the hands of the Believers, take warning, then, O ye with eyes (to see)! (quran 59:2).

On the alleged violent biblical passages, they are history on wars between the Jews and their neighbours. The wars are not instructions by God to fight non-jews as allahh asked mohammed to fight non-muslims. It is not an open-ended instruction like you have in quran 9:29 and quran 8:39. You can as well call those event biblical histories because they are not bible instructions permanently instituted against infidels.

I like your zeal in your defense of islam but unfortunately you have not read the history of mohammed and how he treat women. Do you knw that mohammed, at a time, hit Aisha on the chest that cause her pain? Do you know that Aisha complained that there are no women that suffer as much as muslim women? Do you know that allahh sanctioned the beating of wife (quran 4:34)?

I dont want to beleive that islam had conditioned you not to see the misogyny in islam.

LOL I will ignore all these posts as you people ignored those Bible quotes , Islam cares for women you don't know anything about the Quran and so let's leave it that , live your life honestly and doing good is the most important thing.May God help everyone regardless of religion , Salam.

true2god:
Seems you are a new comer on nairaland. Nobody is accusing your prophet or religion faslsely, but your quran and hadith already judge your prophet as a terrorist and a violent man. See below fya:

Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror, and while I was sleeping, the keys of the treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand." Abu Huraira added: Allah's Apostle has left the world and now you, people, are bringing out those treasures. ( Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 220 )

Abu Huraira reported that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: I have been given superiority over the other prophets in six respects: I have been given words which are concise but comprehensive in meaning; I have been helped by terror (in the hearts of enemies): spoils have been made lawful to me: the earth has been made for me clean and a place of worship; I have been sent to all mankind and the line of prophets is closed with me. (Sahih Muslim, Book 004, Number 1062 , 1063, 1066, 1067)

The Qur'an declares: Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority: their abode will be the Fire: And evil is the home of the wrong-doers! (quran 3:151)

Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them." This because they contended against Allah and His Messenger: If any contend against Allah and His Messenger, Allah is strict in punishment. (quran 8:12-13)

Let not the unbelievers think that they can get the better (of the godly): they will never frustrate (them). Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly. (quran 8:59-60)

And Allah turned back the Unbelievers for (all) their fury: no advantage did they gain; and enough is Allah for the believers in their fight. And Allah is full of Strength, able to enforce His Will. And those of the People of the Book who aided them - Allah did take them down from their strongholds and cast terror into their hearts. (So that) some ye slew, and some ye made prisoners. And He made you heirs of their lands, their houses, and their goods, and of a land which ye had not frequented (before). And Allah has power over all things. (quran 33:25-27)

It is He Who got out the Unbelievers among the People of the Book from their homes at the first gathering (of the forces). Little did ye think that they would get out: And they thought that their fortresses would defend them from Allah! But the (Wrath of) Allah came to them from quarters from which they little expected (it), and cast terror into their hearts, so that they destroyed their dwellings by their own hands and the hands of the Believers, take warning, then, O ye with eyes (to see)! (quran 59:2).

On the alleged violent biblical passages, they are history on wars between the Jews and their neighbours. The wars are not instructions by God to fight non-jews as allahh asked mohammed to fight non-muslims. It is not an open-ended instruction like you have in quran 9:29 and quran 8:39. You can as well call those event biblical histories because they are not bible instructions permanently instituted against infidels.

I like your zeal in your defense of islam but unfortunately you have not read the history of mohammed and how he treat women. Do you knw that mohammed, at a time, hit Aisha on the chest that cause her pain? Do you know that Aisha complained that there are no women that suffer as much as muslim women? Do you know that allahh sanctioned the beating of wife (quran 4:34)?

I dont want to beleive that islam had conditioned you not to see the misogyny in islam.

Today is Friday I have no interest in arguing ,only God knows the niyyah of others , but blaming religion for the acts of Humans is just wrong. God bless you , Salam.

Amberon:
I just modified my post. Go and re read.

Mind you reading from your apocryphal books won't do you no good. Read the bible, Jesus never killed nor commanded anyone to kill.

We as Christians are followers of Christ. Christianity started after Jesus died came and died for our sins, so anything beyond that wasn't Christianity.


Now let me ask you, the people who killed Christ, were they Christians? No! they weren't because they didn't follow Christ. But they thought they were serving God. If they were Christians why did they all Christ?


By the way, the barbaric sharia law that teaches people to stone, behead, maim people, amputate and kill was founded on which tenets?? Islam! no?

Jesus bless you too!

HalimaSadiya:
Today is Friday I have no interest in arguing ,only God knows the niyyah of others , but blaming religion for the acts of Humans is just wrong. God bless you , Salam.

HalimaSadiya:
LOL I will ignore all these posts as you people ignored those Bible quotes , Islam cares for women you don't know anything about the Quran and so let's leave it that , live your life honestly and doing good is the most important thing.May God help everyone regardless of religion , Salam.

God indeed has helped us through Jesus Christ he is God solution for our sinful Soul. Good work is good but not perfect to save. our good works are like filthy rags before God


there is only one way, is not a case of regardless of all religion that way is Christ Jesus the only standard of God to be saved

onetrack:


Well the Quran describes non-Muslims as 'deluded', the 'worst of creatures', 'like cows', 'fuel for the hellfire' and other such things, why should we like Islam?

The Bible also calls Non-Christians 'goats' and tells us they'd be condemned to 'hell fire'. Its okay for the Bible to command Saul to slay every living thing in Amalek,but not okay for the Quaran to do so? You should really think before speaking.

Hannysmilez:
The Bible also calls Non-Christians 'goats' and tells us they'd be condemned to 'hell fire'. Its okay for the Bible to command Saul to slay every living thing in Amalek,but not okay for the Quaran to do so? You should really think before speaking.

The person whom you are replying to is not a christian.

Also, tow wrongs don't make a right

JackBizzle:


So, you are telling me that the Quran reasons the same way racist, sexist, slaveholding American white men used to do. They would sleep with their black slaves but never allow their women to do the same.

Such a selfish religion. Despite christian women being able to marry non christian men, it has surpassed islam in size and numbers. Can you see how ridiculous the ruling that muslimahs should not marry non muslims is?

Well to u it may seems selfish and ridiculous but that is the sure way to protect the faith of our women, take it or leave it. As for numbers we did not pride ourselves in size and numbers but in the doggedness of our faith which by far surpasses that of all other religions.

UyiIredia:


As if Christians in our times have anything comparable to ISIS, Al-Shabab and the likes. Do Christians persecute Muslims? No. Do Christians engage in suicide bombings? No.

who started the world war?,Muslims? Adolph Hitler wasn't a muslim. The Europeans that came to africa and took us as slaves in the process drowning us in the river to save themselves weren't Muslims. The ritualists in Southern Nigeria aren't Muslims either. We read stories of men that batter their wives everyday,are they Muslims? What about the men who rape their children? Are most of them not 'Christians'? Why does every wrong thing done by a non Muslim is a 'crime',when its done by a muslim,he's a 'terrorist'?
I can't believe you asked if christians persecute muslims. Muslim women were marched out of Trump's campaign,it wasn't a big deal to the world. Muslims in America are living in fear. Didn't you hear of the attacks against Muslims in London and Paris? They don't matter because they're muslims. Something happens to a Christian and the world will know no peace.
Go through your Bible,how many times has God killed for the sake of Christians? Did God not drown hundreds of Egyptians? That isn't violence. Did the walls of Jericho nt collapse and kill all of them? That isn't violence. Did God not destroy Sodom and Gomorrah? No,it isn't violence. When the Bible stated that every non believer will be subject to hell,you don't think its offensive. When the Quaran says same,you pick up stones. God himself removed Saul as king because he refused to KILL Agag. But you changed the moral to "obedience is better than sacrifice". Your God can kill but mine cannot.
Most prostitutes,armed-robbers,con-men etc are Christians. Does that mean I'd be shallow enough to say all christians are low on morals? No! I'm wise enough to know its a personal choice. Why can't you see the same for the so called terrorists that kill in the name of Islam? If there are fake pastors that make their members drink fuel nd eat snakes then why can't there be fake muslims too?

JackBizzle:



The person whom you are replying to is not a christian.

Also, tow wrongs don't make a right

I know that. But also,what's good for the goose,is also good for the gander.

Africans are always arguing over which Middle Eastern Religion is better.We have been enslaved eternally.

annunaki2:


Quoran 9:29-30Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.

The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah ." That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?


Quoran 9:5 And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

Quoran 8:39 And fight them until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion, all of it, is for Allah. And if they cease - then indeed, Allah is Seeing of what they do

You see first you can't understand the verses of the Quran just by reading their translation, you need to study their exegesis before you understand them. And you must know that most quranic verses don't stand alone, to get their true meaning you need to follow the contents of, either its preceeding or succeeding verses or both, and you must know the historical reason why the verse is revealed. In other not to lengthen my response I will only talk about. Quran 9 : 5 as for the rest be kind enough to search online for their exegesis.



Q9:5 was referring to the polytheist who breached a treaty ( Treaty of Hudaibiyya: by killing some Muslim allies) that was signed btw the prophet (SAW) on one hand and the polytheists lead by the people of mecca on the other. So Allah (SWT) ordered the Muslim to wait for the sacred months ( of dhu-hijja and Muharra ) to pass and then retaliate by killing the polytheists ( that breached the treaty ) wherever they find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should accept Islam before or during the fight with them, then the Muslims should let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.”

HalimaSadiya:
Today is Friday I have no interest in arguing ,only God knows the niyyah of others , but blaming religion for the acts of Humans is just wrong. God bless you , Salam.

Please respond honestly, will the world be better or worse without Islam?

Ranchhoddas:
Please respond honestly, will the world be better or worse without Islam?

I'm sure the world will be a better place without bigots like you .

THIS ! Way to go !

Hannysmilez:
who started the world war?,Muslims? Adolph Hitler wasn't a muslim. The Europeans that came to africa and took us as slaves in the process drowning us in the river to save themselves weren't Muslims. The ritualists in Southern Nigeria aren't Muslims either. We read stories of men that batter their wives everyday,are they Muslims? What about the men who rape their children? Are most of them not 'Christians'? Why does every wrong thing done by a non Muslim is a 'crime',when its done by a muslim,he's a 'terrorist'?
I can't believe you asked if christians persecute muslims. Muslim women were marched out of Trump's campaign,it wasn't a big deal to the world. Muslims in America are living in fear. Didn't you hear of the attacks against Muslims in London and Paris? They don't matter because they're muslims. Something happens to a Christian and the world will know no peace.
Go through your Bible,how many times has God killed for the sake of Christians? Did God not drown hundreds of Egyptians? That isn't violence. Did the walls of Jericho nt collapse and kill all of them? That isn't violence. Did God not destroy Sodom and Gomorrah? No,it isn't violence. When the Bible stated that every non believer will be subject to hell,you don't think its offensive. When the Quaran says same,you pick up stones. God himself removed Saul as king because he refused to KILL Agag. But you changed the moral to "obedience is better than sacrifice". Your God can kill but mine cannot.
Most prostitutes,armed-robbers,con-men etc are Christians. Does that mean I'd be shallow enough to say all christians are low on morals? No! I'm wise enough to know its a personal choice. Why can't you see the same for the so called terrorists that kill in the name of Islam? If there are fake pastors that make their members drink fuel nd eat snakes then why can't there be fake muslims too?

HalimaSadiya:

I'm sure the world will be a better place without bigots like you .

You did not answer the question.Perhaps you know the truth.

hahn:


That is only because Christianity has already been forced down the throats of the world. In most instances, christianity was spread via the slave trade, tortue, genocide etc

The christians in the US took slavery quite seriously and justified this "business" with quotes from the bible. The bible, Jesus and other fictional characters in the bible have been used over centuries to aid the slave be more "submissive" to their slave masters.

I do agree that Christianity has progressed over the centuries. It is now grown from a witch hunting/burning, ownership of slaves, "divine" rulership to a business any well trained motivational businessman can use to exploit it's gullible, irrational, deluded and misinformed followership.

Islam is on a whole other level of "ignorant". They actually believe Allah itself wrote te Quran

And I thought you were an atheist. It's amazing how you run around pitching with Islam, Satanists, and gays agaisnt Christians. Your ish is not with religion, but with Yahweh right?

HalimaSadiya:

I'm just trying to pass a message across , blame the people committing those crimes and not the entire religion , most of us don't have that mindset .

And where does those committing these crimes get their motivation from? Is it not the Koran?
Let me ask you. So you think when you keep saying, those killing people and burning churches are not muslims the world will believe you muslims?
It's so amazing how you guys reason. A cartoon comes out and Muslims in France calls for the head of Christians everywhere, muslims in Nigeria goes out killing Christians and burning churches, but you claim they are not real muslims. So what does the real muslims do according to Islam?

HalimaSadiya:

Whoever hurts a non Muslim will not see paradise.

Funny you.
Quran 2 19:193
And kill them whereever you find them, and turn them out from where they turn you out. And Al-Fitnah (disbeliever) is worse than killing... And fight them until there is no more fitnah(disbelieve in allah) and worship is for Allah alone.

Quran 8:12
I will Cast terror into their hearts, therefore strike off their heads and strike off their fingertips off them.

Quran 2:244
Then fight in the cause of Allah, and k of that Allah cares and knows all things.

Quran 4:89
But take no friends from their Ranks until they flee in the way of Allah, but if they refuse seize them, and slay them whereever you find them and take no friends and helpers from them.
SHOULD I GO ON?
You don't even know your Koran, so pls go and sit somewhere.

Anas09:

Funny you.
Quran 2 19:193
And kill them whereever you find them, and turn them out from where they turn you out. And Al-Fitnah (disbeliever) is worse than killing... And fight them until there is no more fitnah(disbelieve in allah) and worship is for Allah alone.

Quran 8:12
I will Cast terror into their hearts, therefore strike off their heads and strike off their fingertips off them.

Quran 2:244
Then fight in the cause of Allah, and k of that Allah cares and knows all things.

Quran 4:89
But take no friends from their Ranks until they flee in the way of Allah, but if they refuse seize them, and slay them whereever you find them and take no friends and helpers from them.
SHOULD I GO ON?
You don't even know your Koran, so pls go and sit somewhere.

Woah some people know more about Islam even more than they know about their own religion it is sure going to help them when they convert to that religion insha Allah