raumdeuter:


You have martial ddg rooney. Mind you man utd and city can be said to be equal right now. Both finished with same points. Both won a domestic cup. While man utd still have a young core which would most likely improve lik[b]e martial rashford h city has an ageing core who would depreciate Kompany Kolarov sagna yaya
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Both teams have lots of money to spend

Why are the same people expecting a title or bust from pep not expecting same from Jose

Dayo you try gaaaan no be small. How convenient for you yo compare rashford,martial, lingard against kompany, kolarov,sagna and yaya.

You really try bros.

raumdeuter:


You have martial ddg rooney. Mind you man utd and city can be said to be equal right now. Both finished with same points. Both won a domestic cup. While man utd still have a young core which would most likely improve like martial rashford Lingaard city has an ageing core who would depreciate Kompany Kolarov sagna yaya

Both teams have lots of money to spend

Why are the same people expecting a title or bust from pep not expecting same from Jose

Bros i know you are a Pep fan but Man United and City are not equal; City made the CL semi finals meaning they were top 4 in Europe just this year while United couldn't even get out of a group consisting of ordinary wolfsburg and PSV. City topped a group that had Juventus and Sevilla in it.
We might have finished on the same points but they had a far superior goal difference and they are in the CL because of that. They can attract world beaters more easily due to this and we have the same cash to spend or city even more to be fair. This is simply not equality!

If you want, I can agree Pep is a better manager than Jose because i don't really care about that right now. I simply want Jose to be successful with United more so than Pep with City and it might not even go that way but i would have no regrets over my decision to support him as he is United manager.

Dadehmola:


Dunno about others but for me, I expect us to challenge for the title next season.

There is a difference between challenge and win

Would you agree that challenge for title too would be okay for city next season

Or why is one expected to win and the other just challenge

diggz:


Dayo you try gaaaan no be small. How convenient for you yo compare rashford,martial, lingard against kompany, kolarov,sagna and yaya.

You really try bros.

As at today I would take martial and rashford over yaya and Kompany

afrodoc2:


It depends on the quality of the additions to the team. In my opinion our squad is still not as good as that of Arsenal or City

Doctor how's your squad worse than city's

dx rashford babalawo ehhhnnn

afrodoc2:


It depends on the quality of the additions to the team. In my opinion our squad is still not as good as that of Arsenal or City

Doctor how's your squad worse than city's

I can count the number of players under 30 in city in one hand

raumdeuter:


As at today I would take martial and rashford over yaya and Kompany

I don't get it Bros? Do dey play same positions?

Why not do the proper thing by comparing rashford,martial,lingard to aguero,kdb,navas/sterling?

Please compare players using positions they play not the other way around. Tx

raumdeuter:


Doctor how's your squad worse than city's

I can count the number of players under 30 in city in one hand

Since when did 30years of age turn into expiry dates for players? And, why do you keep hammering on the age as an excuse?

Pls,can you give us the list of 30years and below players in inter Milan, Mou used in lifting the UCL?

Meanwhile,you can also provide us with the list of players below and above 30years when barca won last year, when juventus got to the final, and even bayern,Madrid and man city.

Keeper who is better? I say man Utd

Defence who is better. I say man utd

Midfield who is better. I say tied

Attack who is better. Attack i say city

diggz:


Since when did 30years of age turn into expiry dates for players? And, why do you keep hammering on the age as an excuse?

Pls,can you give us the list of 30years and below players in inter Milan, Mou used in lifting the UCL?

Meanwhile,you can also provide us with the list of players below and above 30years when barca won last year, when juventus got to the final, and even bayern,Madrid and man city.

Age is an expiry for footballers that's why anyone over age 30 is viewed suspiciously

Starting 11.
Bayern by may 2013 only ribery was over 30
Madrid by may 2014 only alonso was over 30(he didn't start the final. If we use khedira who started then no Madrid starting player in the final was over 30)
Last year Barcelona only iniesta and alves were over 30

Out of 33 starting players for the past 3 winners only 3-4 are over 30.

That means almost 90% are under 30 and you think it's not an expiry date?

raumdeuter:


Age is an expiry for footballers that's why anyone over age 30 is viewed suspiciously

Starting 11.
Bayern by may 2013 only ribery was over 30
Madrid by may 2014 only alonso was over 30
Last year Barcelona only iniesta and alves were over 30

Out of 33 starting players for the past 3 winners only 4 are over 30.

That means almost 90% are under 30 and you think it's not an expiry date?

Are you not missing Jose's inter Milan and juventus of last season ?

How come you are picking Manu's defence ahead of city's ? When city literally have the most expensive pair of defenders in otamendi and mangala. Dimachelis and kompany as back up. Clichy and kolarov, sagna and zabeletta.

I do not agree with your over 30years thingy, you are simply over playing it.

For 7 years the people who have argued that mourinho is better than Guardiola now have an opportunity to measure both in the same league same city. Inherit similar bad clubs suddenly we're seeing people shift shape change basis and even agree that pep is now better

When it was time to brag mourinho was better. Now it's time to prove themselves in similar situations we're now hearing Pep is better

raumdeuter:


Doctor how's your squad worse than city's

I can count the number of players under 30 in city in one hand

whether they are above 30 or below 30 is not the issue here. I am not talking about 2,3,4 years to come BUT about next season.

Defence we are marginally better. We conceded 35 goals and they conceded 41, a difference of just 6. Even the only reason I give us the edge is because of St David THE BEST KEEEPER IN THE UNIVERSE AT THE MOMENT
Our sterile possession based football made mediocre defenders in our squad look good

Midfield we are both crappy, I think they have the edge but you say equal.....no argument.

Attack they are way way better. We scored 49 and they scored 71 a difference of 22
We have no goal scorer like Aguero and no goal creators like Silva and De Bruyne.


Overall they are obviously better. It should not even be up for debate .

diggz:


Are you not missing Jose's inter Milan and juventus of last season ?

How come you are picking Manu's defence ahead of city's ? When city literally have the most expensive pair of defenders in otamendi and mangala. Dimachelis and kompany as back up. Clichy and kolarov, sagna and zabeletta.

I do not agree with your over 30years thingy, you are simply over playing it.

Did juventus win last year?

I would pull the inter player ages later. Assuming majority of inter players are over 30 are you telling us for us we have to go back 6 yrs to see a sample. When I'm giving you back to back examples of winners with bulk of team under 30

afrodoc2:


It depends on the quality of the additions to the team.

Absolutely...
I believe enough funds would be provided for Mourinho and TBH, 4 quality additions to the side (in appropriate departments ofcourse) should do...atleast for a start.

afrodoc2:

In my opinion our squad is just a little bit worse than Arsenal or City

Fixed!

If that Dutch Lunatic wasn't obsessed with the supposed "philosophy" and "process", i see no reason why we couldn't have finished in the Top 3 (or 2 ) last season.

raumdeuter:


Did juventus win last year?

I would pull the inter player ages later. Assuming majority of inter players are over 30 are you telling us for us we have to go back 6 yrs to see a sample. When I'm giving you back to back examples of winners with bulk of team under 30

I am only trying to tell you your age claim is rubbish. Please, forget inter and use CFC of 2011/2012 as an example. I can assure you the core of that team was either pushing 30yrs or way above it. #fact.

Juventus didn't win it but they got into the finals. Please, look for another point to raise and stop this age thingy because it is annoying.

Marcus rashford becomes the youngest player to score on debut for England.




#cheat

Pellegrini won the league in his first season, he reached the CL semi last season. Pep should replicate these feats or remain FRAUDIOLA forever!!!

diggz:


I am only trying to tell you your age claim is rubbish. Please, forget inter and use CFC of 2011/2012 as an example. I can assure you the core of that team was either pushing 30yrs or way above it. #fact.

Juventus didn't win it but they got into the finals. Please, look for another point to raise and stop this age thingy because it is annoying.

Give me the starting 11 for chelsea in 2012 final and their ages

raumdeuter:


Give me the starting 11 for chelsea in 2012 final and their ages

This your twisting and turning won't work. I will provide you with the entire list of first team players.

Petr cech, hillario, A. Cole,terry, Cahill, P.ferrera,Ivanovic,bosingwa,Bertrand, mareiles, drogba,lampard,fernadud,malouda,kalou,Mikel, etc. Those are the names I can remember for now.

Emaprince:
Pellegrini won the league in his first season, he reached the CL semi last season. Pep should replicate these feats or remain FRAUDIOLA forever!!!

Why are we not holding mourinho to the same standard

They both have 3 yrs. Both of them have to win the league next year. Anyone who does not win failed

Agreed?

diggz:


This your twisting and turning won't work. I will provide you with the entire list of first team players.

Petr cech, hillario, A. Cole,terry, Cahill, P.ferrera,Ivanovic,bosingwa,Bertrand, mareiles, drogba,lampard,fernadud,malouda,kalou,Mikel, etc. Those are the names I can remember for now.

Give me the starting eleven in the final. Is that hard to do?

The team that entered the field on the final and won for chelsea and their ages as at that night

afrodoc2:


It depends on the quality of the additions to the team. In my opinion our squad is still not as good as that of Arsenal or City

Which positions do you think we should sign players for?

raumdeuter:


Give me the starting 11 for chelsea in 2012 final and their ages

Please before you shift this into another argument entirely.

Kindly note, the issue is with your fictitious claims about city having too many 30 and above players in the squad,not who played
in the finals or not. Because, I am yet to see the list you promised to provide for
juventus team which made last years UCL final.

raumdeuter:


There is a difference between challenge and win

Would you agree that challenge for title too would be okay for city next season

Or why is one expected to win and the other just challenge

That's because Pep is coming in with a higher reputation - in his last 7 seasons as a manager, he won 6 league titles or so..

Honestly, i really dont get some of the excuses being put forward in Pep's defence.

No one coulda said that city side wasnt good enough to win the EPL last season so what's all this talk about rebuilding and revamping as if he's inheriting a Watford side?

raumdeuter:


Give me the starting eleven in the final. Is that hard to do?

The team that entered the field on the final and won for chelsea and their ages as at that night

It is hard abeg. I no get photographic memory like you so kindly assist. Thank you sir.

Emaprince:
Pellegrini won the league in his first season, he reached the CL semi last season. Pep should replicate these feats or remain FRAUDIOLA forever!!!

Excuses have started for Pep in case he doesn't win it in his first season. Mourinho have done that in the past. Let's see if Pep can also do it. If he does it good for him.

Dadehmola:


That's because Pep is coming in with a higher reputation - in his last 7 seasons as a manager, he won 6 league titles!

Honestly, i really dont get some of the excuses being put forward in Pep's defence.

No one coulda said that city side wasnt good enough to win the EPL last season so what's all this talk about rebuilding and revamping as if he's inheriting a Watford side?

May God bless you. The most annoying and irritating part is the 30years and above claim. Total rubbish!!!! If I should take a closer look at Leicester team vs mancity squad,I am sure the age difference won't be significant.

tess1:


Excuses have started for Pep in case he doesn't win it in his first season. Mourinho have done that in the past. Let's see if Pep can also do it. If he does it good for him.

Those excuses are annoying!!

If Pep doesn't win the league next season, it had better be down to some more important reasons, not all these "he needs time to rebuild" stuff we are being told here..

diggz:
Please before you shift this into another argument entirely.

Kindly note, the issue is with your fictitious claims about city having too many 30 and above players in the squad,not who played
in the finals or not. Because, I am yet to see the list you promised to provide for
juventus team which made last years UCL final.

Quote where I promised to give you the Juventus team.

I deal only with winners and I have given you multiple winners who hardly have anyone over 30 in their starting 11 for the final

So you give us Chelsea team in 2012 final

Dadehmola:


That's because Pep is coming in with a higher reputation - in his last 7 seasons as a manager, he won 6 league titles or so..

Honestly, i really dont get some of the excuses being put forward in Pep's defence.

No one coulda said that city side wasnt good enough to win the EPL last season so what's all this talk about rebuilding and revamping as if he's inheriting a Watford side?

You are the ones giving the excuse

I am saying Okay Pep and Jose are coming to the same league same city with teams in bad states and both teams have money to spend

I expect both Jose and Pep to win equally. Failure to win for either is a failure. I cant get any of you to agree rather you are telling us How top 3 or 4 is good enough for Jose while Pep only the winners medal is good for him

Both of them should win next season or they have failed yes or no?

Are you telling us Jose Mourinho the only active coach with the highest number of trophies doesnt come with a higher reputation

SO Mourinho is now Allardyce just because they told him to compete with pep of an equal footing