₦airaland Forum

Ariani:
OP is a Yoruba man.

But nevertheless, I think his post deserve a response to set things right.

Igbo agitation for independent nation that will not include Yorubas and Hausas have always had non Igbo inclusion from SS because, we don't want a situation were the Hausa-Fulanis and their Yoruba partners will use the non Igbo clans in SS against Ndiigbo.

In the light of the above, it became imperative that for Ndiigbo to secede successfully, we needed a strongly pro secession and anti Nigerian SS that will not be used as willing tools to stop us. But since no such pro secession group had arose from the SS, it became strategic that we included and welcomed them in our secession plans.

But now that NDA is filling the vacuum by bridging the disconnect between the SE and SS and connecting the two regions as pro secession zone, we mustn include any non Igbo speaking group in our nation , it's their right to chose, but we maintain that a plebiscite must be conducted in every Igbo speaking territory in current SS, for the people to chose between Bia*** nation and ND republic.

I understand that we also need a pro secession Igalla and Idoma, to prevent them from serving as launching pads to the Hausa-Fulani and their Yoruba partners in their March to the East. A pro secession Igala and Idoma also means that we can reclaim our Igbo speaking territories currently trapped in Oju, Okpokwu and Obi LGAs of Benue state.

kropotkin2:
Nice talk but the problem with your point of view is that the rest of the Nigerian state will not permit any such referendum without an initial recourse to force. A referendum is alien to the constitution of Nigeria. You failed to take this fact into consideration when you theoretically destroyed our country on the internet

Ariani:
That's the whole point of the strategy.

We don't expect Nigeria( Hausa-Fulani, their northern slaves and their Yoruba vassals) to accept division of Nigeria without a fight.

We need a northern buffer and a southern buffer to nullify and stop them at Benue borders.

A pro secession and anti Nigerian SS will provide Ndiigbo with a Western and southernern buffer zone, while a pro secession Idoma/ Igalla, provides us a Northern buffer zone.

Unlike in 1967-70, we wouldn't be fighting many battles at same time, with that scenario.

Thanks.

Ariani:
That's the whole point of the strategy.

We don't expect Nigeria( Hausa-Fulani, their northern slaves and their Yoruba vassals) to accept division of Nigeria without a fight.

We need a northern buffer and a southern buffer to nullify and stop them at Benue borders.

A pro secession and anti Nigerian SS will provide Ndiigbo with a Western and southernern buffer zone, while a pro secession Idoma/ Igalla, provides us a Northern buffer zone.

Unlike in 1967-70, we wouldn't be fighting many battles at same time, with that scenario.

Thanks.

tuale4u:
I am in support of BIAFRA 100% as long as no Single South South land is on their Map.

South South people have one thing in common. we are all minority. that makes us one. we don't want any majority among us.

tuale4u:
The current activity of Niger Delta Avengers have clearly proven that the North or West don't care if South east leave Nigeria. All the one Nigeria supporters cares about is South South oil.

Also BIAFRA agitators don't want BIAFRA without South South oil. Give them South East alone Biafra, they will prefer to remain in Nigeria than form a country that is south east alone.

Nigeria govt was never shakened or moved with all the massive protest for Biafra in the south east. Nigeria Economy was not moved or shaken with all the protest in Aba, Onitcha etc in South east. This clearly shows south east are not very important economically in Nigeria. They are mostly into distribution of goods and not creation of wealth. Importation of foreign goods and goods distribution does little to income of the federation. They rather deplete the reserve than add to the reserve of the country.

But a small group in Niger delta who have not even enjoyed large support from Niger Delta people is already making Nigeria bleed.
Imagine when Niger Delta people decide to protest for Niger delta republic the way South east people have been protesting for Biafra?

This clearly shows only South South is feeding this country Nigeria.

North, South East and South west are mostly parasite who contribute very little to Nigeria and take much.

So when Igbo Shout Biafra it simply means they want to cut off North and Yoruba so dat they become the only parasite to South South.
When North Shout one Nigeria it means they want to be part of the parasite.

My position: It is very unfair for south south alone to be feeding the whole country. With the other 5 geopolitical zone contributing little.
All the other five regions (NE, NW, NC, SW and SE) must contribute their share to the Nigeria state.
If the other five region fail to do this, I clearly support Niger Delta Republic with south south alone.
Thus if Nigeria wont work, let:

North West and North East form Islamic Republic
North Central form Middle Niger Republic
South East Form Biafra
South West form Odua Republic
South South form Niger delta Republic.

This is the best solution to this country with 5 parasite feeding on one 1 prey.

It is unfair and evil.

We should take advantage of this situation and start Massive Protest (peaceful) for Niger Delta Republic.
Our minimum demand should be 50% Resource Control or Nigeria breaks.

tuale4u:
I am in support of BIAFRA 100% as long as no Single South South land is on their Map.

South South people have one thing in common. we are all minority. that makes us one. we don't want any majority among us.

Ariani:
That's the whole point of the strategy.

We don't expect Nigeria( Hausa-Fulani, their northern slaves and their Yoruba vassals) to accept division of Nigeria without a fight.

We need a northern buffer and a southern buffer to nullify and stop them at Benue borders.

A pro secession and anti Nigerian SS will provide Ndiigbo with a Western and southernern buffer zone, while a pro secession Idoma/ Igalla, provides us a Northern buffer zone.

Unlike in 1967-70, we wouldn't be fighting many battles at same time, with that scenario.

Thanks.

kropotkin2:
The only strong secessionist sentiment in Nigeria exists in the east, and even there, there iss a very strong pro Nigerian sentiment too. Dont be fooled by the so called avengers, we have seen it before (2006-2008), because the consensus to secede from Nigeria does not exist in the Niger delta as at the present. It never has. The Niger delta is as fractured as the old northern region on ethnic lines to ever build such a consensus. There goes your Southern buffer. As for idoma/ igalla, LoL Never heard of any agitation from their either. The so called northern buffer goes up in a puff of smoke too. Thanks

Ogbuefi2020:
Anti Fulani sentiments has grown considerably recently in Benue despite the fact that it has been happening for a long time before now, in fact, after the Enugu attack and the attention it generated from government, some idoma began to question weather they are not human enough or is it because of bia.f.ra. Just watch how things unfold,[b] i have a friend from Jos who told me that if Hausa fight another war with igbos that they will be neutral [/b]and will never be used again. He lamented how they overthrew Gowon and used the Dimka coup as an excuse to execute all top officers from Middle belt with the help of OBJ

Ariani:
That's the whole point of the strategy.

We don't expect Nigeria( Hausa-Fulani, their northern slaves and their Yoruba vassals) to accept division of Nigeria without a fight.

We need a northern buffer and a southern buffer to nullify and stop them at Benue borders.

A pro secession and anti Nigerian SS will provide Ndiigbo with a Western and southernern buffer zone, while a pro secession Idoma/ Igalla, provides us a Northern buffer zone.

Unlike in 1967-70, we wouldn't be fighting many battles at same time, with that scenario.

Thanks.

Habakus:
You see Op,the Igbos - SE - are pain in the asss... You don't know what to do with them. If you champion for an only SS people independent country,excluding the indigenous Igbos there in places like Delta,Rivers,Akwa Ibom etc,you risk losing the land,oil and other resources there; if you say ok,you should include them in your agitation for SS republic,then automatically,you're including the rest of the Igbos in SE. Because Igbos who have mixed up very well with their indigenous kins in SS will troupe en masse in those areas and blend in very well. And you won't be able to differentiate. You see the problem here? So when people promote the SS cause and mock the SE, the knowledgeable ones just laugh at them. NB: the Igbos don't give a hoot about the oil in SS. People who care about the oil are the ones who colonize the oil wells in your backyards,give you a small percentage for them,and you protest,they call you terrorists and prosecute you.

Chiwude:
Let me correct you. The South-South as understood by generality of Igbos consist of many ethnic nationalities and of which Igbo sub-groups form a large part. Thus the South-South is not just a minority enclave.
Second, the South-South is never an ethinic group, its just the bounding of many tribes to form one geo-political zone. A different scenario all together from other southern zones like the SW and the SE with wholly ethnic Yoruba and Igbo inhabitants. So it means that the only thing uniting this nebulous zone is just two things 'the tag south-south' and 'the natural resource oil'. When you remove these two, all you have are different ethnicities with different identity and conflicting agenda.
Bearing in mind these differences, it becomes natural that many group within the so-called South-South may cleave closer to people whom they share a lot in common. Ie, the Itshekiri's and Akoko-Edo's may want a united country with the Yoruba's while the Anioma's and Igbo Rivers may also want a united nation with their SE Igbo kins. Therefore, and importantly any future Niger-Delta republic inclusive of any Igbo group will fail even before it's actualized. This is the truth. So the only way to actualize it (NDR) is to forget about adding Igbo groups to your republic.
However, the Igbo nation is behind any group or groups after self-determination. As a matter of fact we do, because we believe in justice, equity and fairness. We support the ambition of the Niger-Deltans. Yet, that doesn't mean we would blindly or foolishly give up our territories to the Niger-Delta republic. So, bear in mind that not an inch of Igboland shall be ceded to any group whether through crook or hook.

ayokellany:
Finally an Igbo with a functional brain with no sense of delusional entitlements. You sure need to come on NL often if not for anything but to enlighten and educate the senseless ones among the Igbo's that believe they have a right to secede with or without the NigerDelta but do not accepted that the NigerDelta as a right to be a union on its own if it so which or that even the Yoruba can lay claim to Any land from the former old Western region which include the Anioma Igbo's in today " Delta n Edo" to be precise.

tuale4u:
on point

Olabestonic001:
Probably you dont know that the core of the NDA are Ijaws and Ijaws has its own agenda which is very much in variant to Igbo's. Ijaw people shares no same agenda with Igbo's.

Chiwude:
However, the Igbo nation is behind any group or groups after self-determination. As a matter of fact we do, because we believe in justice, equity and fairness. We support the ambition of the Niger-Deltans. Yet, that doesn't mean we would blindly or foolishly give up our territories to the Niger-Delta republic. So, bear in mind that not an inch of Igboland shall be ceded to any group whether through crook or hook.

Olabestonic001:
Guy, you're wicked ooooooo!
So, you expect those guys to fight the war for you while you take the spoils of war right?
I now see why Awo didn't bought the agenda Ojukwu was marketing to him. That agenda would have meant the Secession battles would have been in Yoruba land and by now we'll be doing yearly remembrance for the 5 million Yoruba's that died in the quest for Biafra agitation.
Igbo's must really be a set of exceptionally smart lads by ensuring someone fight their war for them. But even more, Yoruba's must be very discerning to know that Igbo only wanted to break a coconut on its head. Niger-Delta, fear Igbo's! This people are more cunning than anyone can ever imagine.
A theater of war outside Igbo land to achieve Igbo independence is the desire. The Niger-Delta would pay both with their blood and their lands for Igbo country while Igbo's cheered them on.

Ngozi123:
@tuale4u

Are you from the South-South? If so, which ethnic group do you belong to? This will determine how I reply to your comments.

freshvine:
The Igbos Indigene and Igboid group in Niger Delta will still be in the majority.

60% of Rivers State is made up of the igboid group.

40% of Delta State same thing.

There are sprinkle of igboid group in Akwa ibom, Cross River state and Edo state.

Don't be surprise one Chibuike Amaechi becomes your president in the future and you'll find it hard explaining to an expatriate that he's not an igbo man

tuale4u:
I am in support of BIAFRA 100% as long as no Single South South land is on their Map.

South South people have one thing in common. we are all minority. that makes us one. we don't want any majority among us.

Habakus:
Mr,honestly,i'm begining to doubt your ability to comprehend things. How in the world did you arrive at this your conclusion from what the guy you quoted said? Ehh? Are you purposely doing this or what? Where did the guy say or imply that he wants others to fight his war while he takes the spoils of the war? I just hope this is not what you do real life... Stop this cockroach character....

Amberon11:
dear Ngozi, this is the problem with you igbos. We in the SS do not discriminate. We treat each other with equal love and respect. SS is SS period!