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Jozzy4:
what is your problem ?

am still waiting for u to show me where the Bible said Jesus and God [size=25] is one spirit [/size] ?

Romans 8:9

solite3:
Jozzy hahahahahaha .O my o my you sweeten my day. Shallum

John 17:3 will help u identify the Only True God.

solite3:
Romans 8:9

lolz, it doesnt said so , another liar.
show me where scripture said God and Jesus is one spirit ?

[quote author=solite3 post=46174344]Solite still loading.next will be on the overwhelming proof that Jesus is God. but first I want to ask all Jehovah witness this question

IS JESUS A TRUE GOD OR A FALSE GOD.
since you said Jesus is a God, is it not good to know the type of God he is?

Jozzy4:
lolz, it doesnt said so , another liar.

show me where scripture said God and Jesus is one spirit ?

did I tell you that there is a scripture that says Jesus and God are one in spirit?

solite3:
did I tell you that there is a scripture that says Jesus and God are one in spirit?

not scriptural hahahaha

why do u now gave me Romans 8:9 when u know its not scriptural but another solite3 version of lie ?

Jozzy4:
John 17:3 will help u identify the Only True God.

why will I need to Identify the true God? When you said there is nothing like true God or false God. Seriously you need help

solite3:
why will I need to Identify the true God? [size=28] When you said there is nothing like true God or false God. [/size] Seriously you need help

liar , show me where I said there is nothing like true God or false God ? lets see who need help

Jozzy4:
not scriptural hahahaha

why do u now gave me Romans 8:9 when u know its not scriptural but another solite3 version of lie ?

do you know d mini of scriptural?

Jozzy4:
liar , show me where I said there is nothing like true God or false God ? lets see who need help

it is the implication of what you said or the meaning of your words. Let me post it again

solite3:
do you know d mini of scriptural?

contained or from the bible.

and am happy u cant verify ur statement from the bible. the worst part was u showing how dubious u are by giving me Romans 8:9 that says nothing about Jesus and God been one spirit . only for you to later admit its not in the scriptures, why give bible verse in the first place ?

solite3:
do you know d mini of scriptural?

contained or from the bible.

and am happy u cant verify ur statement from the bible. the worst part was u showing how dubious u are by giving me Romans 8:9 that says nothing about Jesus and God been one spirit . only for you to later admit its not in the scriptures, why give bible verse in the first place ?

solite3:
it is the implication of what you said ,or the meaning of your words . Let me post it again

its no more what I said but the meaning of my word . *sighs* kindly go and sleep .

Jozzy4:
that question is only valid if Jesus is God in the sense of being the Supreme being, but he is not... he is God in the sense of been a Mighty one not supreme being.

correct me if I am wrong Jozzy cause I don't understand your jargons

Jozzy4:
contained or from the bible.

and am happy u cant verify ur statement from the bible. the worst part was u showing how dubious u are by giving me Romans 8:9 that says nothing about Jesus and God been one spirit . only for you to later admit its not in the scriptures, why give bible verse in the first place ?

if I say God created lions is it scriptural

Jozzy4:
its no more what I said but the meaning of my word . *sighs* kindly go and sleep .

can you blame me for not understanding your words?

Jozzy4:
its no more what I said but the meaning of my word . *sighs* kindly go and sleep .

can you blame me for not understanding your words? Correct me if I am wrong.

quote author=solite3 post=46174344]Solite still loading.next will be on the overwhelming proof that Jesus is God. but first I want to ask all Jehovah witness this question

IS JESUS A TRUE GOD OR A FALSE GOD.
since you said Jesus is a God, is it not good to know the type of God he is?



quote author=solite3 post=46174344]Solite still loading.next will be on the overwhelming proof that Jesus is God. but first I want to ask all Jehovah witness this question

[b]IS JESUS A TRUE GOD OR A FALSE GOD.[/b]
since you said Jesus is a God, is it not good to know the type of God he is?

Wow, such confusion and lack of understanding, and twisting, and straight out lies in all his posts




Lie Lie jozzy

Jozzy4:
buhahahahaha , if you now admit that Jesus is the Word , why do u now lied uv never mentioned Jesus when u mentioned the Word ?

I have never said Jesus is not the word, and you cannot post a quote where I did, that's another lie from Lie Lie jozzy

I never mentioned Jesus (flesh and blood) I mentioned the word (Spirit) that's what I was talking about,
the Word became flesh, but you cannot understand and so call out liar like a good little false jw.

Jozzy4:
now its official, you declare Jesus Christ is the Word . so That means Jesus Christ is Gods spirit ?

Lie Lie jozzy, I have always said the Word became Jesus Christ, as for Jesus Christ being God's Spirit, I wouldn't discuss it with false jw who hasn't a clue and cannot have because he has been blinded through unbelief.

Jozzy4:
Johnw74 is a chronic liar

Lie Lie jozzy


Yet you cannot show a single lie.

Jozzy4:


" the Word is the spirit of God" - johnw74

" Jesus Christ is the Word", -,johnw74

Liarrrrrrrr, chai

No lie there at all, that's perfectly true

Jozzy4:


" The Word is the Spirit of God " - johnw74

" Jesus Christ is the Word " - johnw74

" the Spirit of God is the Holy spirit" - johnw74




why u dey lie like this ?

Again no lie there at all, that's perfectly true

Jozzy4:
see lie,

I never said Jesus is the Holy Spirit
I said the Word is the Holy Spirit
It's not to do with Jesus being the Word
I was correcting your misquoting me all through these posts

Jozzy4:
Liarrrrrrrr, chai

I said the word is God's Spirit, no lie there.

Jozzy4:
why u dey lie like this ? @ underlined

No lie, again I was correcting your misquoting

Jozzy4:
" The Word is the Spirit of God " - johnw74

Explained below :

" Jesus Christ is the Word " - johnw74

" the Spirit of God is the Holy spirit" - johnw74




why u dey lie like this ?

Lie Lie jozzy


Of course the word is the Spirit of God, look at scripture I posted, < that was silly, telling false jw to look at the scriptures
Of course Jesus Christ is the Word, read John 1
Of course the spirit of God is the Holy Spirit, who else could the Holy Spirit be, God is Holy, God is Spirit.


such confusion and lack of understanding, and twisting, and straight out lies in all false jw jozzy's posts

zodiakzax:
there's nothing to bear with since you are still not making sense.

sir, tell us your views about those scriptures I quoted and lets see if it does not make sense.

Those scriptures were given for u to see the similarity between God and Jesus. God says He will do this Jesus says the same thing, God says He will come with His saints, Jesus said He will come with His saints etc if Jesus is not God why then does He do the samething God does?

hope you read the scriptures I posted, read John chapter 17 and you will know more about those who god gave to Jesus .

Why has He been called God and the names of God in Isa ?

because he is a God , a mighty one!, but he is not almighty God!
I Do not understand what you mean by " names of god" pls explain.

God says I alone laid the foundation of the world and sustain it by His power. Jesus also created the world and sustains all things by the power of His Word. What do you make of that.

I believe I've explained the issue of creation to you, did you read the scriptures I pointed and quoted to you? cus I'm beginning to think you do not read those scriptures, you read some, but refuse to read others that give further info.

God use the phrase first and last, Jesus used the same phrase, first and last. Why would He use that phrase if He's not God? When you are done explaining what ever you want to explain pls do explain Rev 22:16 for me. Thank you

a king in babyLon used the same phrase used for Jesus, does that mean he is jesus? no
the scriptures had made it clear who they are, you can thu conclude they are the same person.

look at this,
God commanded jesus to sit at his right side,
Jesus sat at God's right side
Stephen saw the two of them in a vision

but you want to claim they are the same person cus of similarities in phrases used for them, is this not an indirect way to alter what the scriptures had directly told us. The scriptures I quoted to you seperated jesus from God when talking about both of them, but you refuse to see and examine them.

Re 22:16“‘I, Jesus, sent my angel to bear witness to you about these things for the congregations. I am the root and the offspring of David and the bright morning star.’”

As “the faithful and true witness,” Jesus bears testimony to the completion of the sacred secret concerning the kingdom, saying: “I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright morning star.” He is David’s permanent heir, the eternal one in the Kingdom covenant and the one foretold at numbers 24 :17

I will see him, but not now;
I will behold him, but not soon.
A star will come out of Jacob,
And a scepter will rise out of Israel.
And he will certainly break apart the forehead of Moʹab
And the skull of all the sons of tumult.

All efforts by Satan, the wild beast, and Babylon the Great (read rev 12: 1-12, but ill quote verse 12
King James Version
Re 12:10And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
* sir, almighty God anointed Christ, he is not Christ!
also read rev 17:3-14)
they have therefore been unable to prevent this “star” from rising out of the house of David to sit down on the throne in the heavens forever.

Jer 23:5“Look! The days are coming,” declares Jehovah, “when I will raise up to David a righteous sprout. And a king will reign and show insight and uphold justice and righteousness in the land.

Jer 33:15In those days and at that time I will cause to sprout for David a righteous sprout, and he will execute justice and righteousness in the land.

Re 5:5But one of the elders said to me: “Stop weeping. Look! The Lion of the tribe of Judah, the root of David, has conquered so as to open the scroll and its seven seals.”
* sir, the one who will raise and the one he raised are not the same person.
hope you read about the had the scroll and who collected it from his hand!
the person who collected and the person who had the scroll are not the same!

zodiakzax:
really? Okay let's just say I didn't read it well, lemme ask you, why is Jesus called the Eternal Father or Everlasting Father? Pls explain.

you are just showing once more that you did not read the post well, read it again, expecially where I mentioned why jesus will be called evalasting father!

And like I said you are not making sense that's why I am not re quoting or replying to most of your explanations.

I see these as an excuse not to examine the scripture quote to you.

So from what you are saying I am to assume that God anointed Jesus to create or gave Him power to create and sustain all things by the power of His word when He (God) said He alone laid the foundations of the world or maybe I still didn't read your post well. Hmmm..

again this shows you did not read my post.
even if you will refuse to read my post, can you qoute those scriptures I posted and tell me what you think they are saying?

brocab:
Then if you aren't pushing for me to believe in your doctrine, then why are you harassing me to answer the scriptures?

the questions will show if you are telling the truth or not, you refusal to answer then shows you are trying to hide something!
so far so good, those questions has been exposing your false teachings, again I state that it's not only questions you failed to answer , you have so far failed woefully in quoting and explaining certain scriptures!

You say you had answered all scriptures "I or we" have given you, and yet you still refuse to re-answer {Revelation 1:7-8}
So stop lying the world can see-your name posted throughout this page. Everyone of us already knows you aren't a true believer in Christ, so what do you want?

GOD WILL BE THE JUDGE BETWEEN ME AND YOU ON THESE ISSUE, IVE POSTED , POINTED TO YOU, MENTIONED YOUR NAME SEVERAL TIMES WHEN I EXPLAIN ED TO YOU REV 1:1,4-6,7,8; REV 3:2,12, AND HEB 1:9. IVE DONE IT TWICE ON THESE THREAD ! TWIIICE!, YOU REFUSED TO RESPOND TO ANY OF IT!

Christ said In {Matthew 10:14} Who ever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, then shake the dust of your feet and leave.

some of the scriptures I wanted you to quote and explain are jesus own words, but you refuse to do so .

And of course you are that one who will not receive the word of God.
Diffidently not from the KJ's bible, you had slandered this bible, calling it a lie from the beginning, claiming the New World Translation bible holds the truth about who Christ is.

YOU HAVE STATE LYING AGAIN!

Which I find this theory out of range because none of you JW's ever use your bibles to bring out the true facts about the word of God.

sir, I told you several times to use any translation you want to quote and explain the scriptures I asked you to qoute and explain, you are here still arguing about translations while still refusing to quote and explain those scriptures.

You want us to listen to you, then speak the truth about Christ dolphinheart, this isn't about you, it's about the word of God.

I dnt want "us" to listen to me , I want you brocab, to quote and explain the scriptures I posted to you, or are those scriptures not the word of God again?

issues at hand:

you said this : "But first you need to think about this, "we are Christians" and Christians are not Jehovah witnesses, Christians don't think the same as you, nor do we believe in any of your doctrines.

I asked you :
you dnt believe any of our doctrines? ok , one of the doctrines of jehovahs witnesses doctrine is that followers of jesus are not supposed to participate in warfare , do you accept this doctrine or you believe that Jesus followers are supposed to participate in warfare, by warfare, I mean war among countries, nationalities, and tribes, e.g the nigerian civil war!

Another teaching is that fornicators, people who deliberately and continuously commit fornication after being found out, are not allowed to be part of

brocab, there are still other isues at hand

1. WRITTEN WHAAAT? pls point to what I've written and post it, anytime I say you said something, I endeavor to direct you to wheee and when you said it, so pls direct me and others to where I said " God and the Word is a two headed god"?
bunch of liars!

2. Brought what back to my attention, I know you desperately want him to bring those words he accused me of saying out, it pains you that he could not, hence you have to find alternatives!
..............................

And yet no response from you on the issue you yourself raised?
also up till now , you have not answered these questions
(ill find that post and point it to you)

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you have also refused to respond to these questions and scripture:
[b]Just tell us the name of the church you associate with, that you are a member of!. If possible you can include its official website, at least you surpport using technology in Gods work.

Tell us, do you know that Jesus Christ told someone that he has a God? And that statement was recorded in the kjv.? Can you tell us where this can be found?
If you can't answer this question brocab, then you dnt know the truth about Christ!.
Expecially. The one spoken by Jesus himself.

Examine this questions brocab
1. If you say one body, one spirit, was Jesus a spirit before he came to earth?
2. When Jesus was on earth, was the spirit in him his, the father or the holy spirit.?
3. After Jesus left the earth, did he remain in the body or became a spirit?
4. What does Jesus mean by " the father is greater than I am"
5. Why does Jesus say he is going to the father when you are trying to say he is spirit.
6. You asked a question, the answer is yes, but ill like to ask you, what about the soul, why did you remove the soul when fomulating your question.

brocab , readers will note(again) that you have NOT quoted and explained ANY of the following scriptures :
1.rev 1:1,6
2. Rev 3, 2,13
3. John 17:1-3
4. Heb 1:1 -9
5. John 20:17
6. 1 cor 11:3
7 . 1 ti 2 :5,6
8.Acts 4:10
9. Acts 2:36
10. Acts 2:24
11. Acts 5:30
12.Acts 10:38,40,43
11. Phil 2:9,11
12. john 14:6
13. Acts 4 : 26,27, 30
14. 1 john 4:14
15. Heb 5:7
16. ps 28:18
17. 2 cor 1:3
18. Eph 1:3
19. 1 pet 1:3
20: 2Cor 8:6
21. 1 cor 15: 27,28

And a host of others
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Brocab , examine these scripture
Acts 5: 31.
Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

John 3:16.
For God so loved the world,
that he gave his only begotten
Son, that whosoever believeth
in him should not perish, but
have everlasting life.
Jesus is Gods only begotten son, Jesus is not God almighty!
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YOU HAVE AGAIN ADDED LIES TO YOUR VIEWS.
Lets see if Jesus was recognizable to those who knew him:
[b]King James Version
Joh 20:14And when she had thus said, she turned herself back, and saw Jesus standing, and KNEW NOT THAT IT WAS Jesus!
King James Version

Joh 20:15Jesus saith unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? whom seekest thou? SHE SUPPOSING HIM TO BE THE GARGENER, saith unto him, Sir, if thou have borne him hence, tell me where thou hast laid him, and I will take him away.

I dnt think the disciples would have been able to recognize Jesus more than Mary, she probably would have known Jesus from birth, and the picture of Jesus in her memory would have been sharper than a 100 mega pixel camera!
but here you are , lying again that Jesus was recognizable to those who knew him!
dnt you think Mary should have been able to recognise Jesus instantly if he had been raise in the same body he died in?
* this is a question ill hope you can give us answer to .
Do you notice how Jesus appeared to his disciples who had locked the doors, his actions transcends the physical realm, he appeared to them gram!, in a locked rooM!. yet until he showed them death dealing wound marks, that was when they believed they where swing the Lord.

brocab pls tell us
1. DOES SOME ONE FACE CHANGE WHEN HE OR SHE IS RESSURRECTED WITH THE SAME BODY HE OR SHE DIED IN?
2.DOES SOME ONE GETS RESSURRECTED WITH THE WOUND'S OR INJURIES THAT KILLED HIM?
If your assumptions are true, I bet during the ressurection, we will know those whose throut where slit, cus there will still be a gapping hole in there necks. and those whose brains where blown out will have a hole in their head, cus they will be resurrected with that same body!
before, I digress, let's further examine ya lie.
King James Version
Joh 21:4But when the morning was now come, Jesus stood on the shore: BUT THE DISCIPLES KNEW NOT THAT IT WAS Jesus.
john 21: 12 New International Version
Jesus said to them, "Come and have breakfast." None of the disciples dared ask him, "Who are you?" They knew it was the Lord.
even after seing Jesus after his resurrecting, after being with Jesus for years, they still do not recognize Jesus at first glance. If Jesus had been resurrected with the same body he had died in, the disciples will have no doubt, they wunt need to even bother to ask the question that dared not to ask, "who are you".
Jesus had just showed them who he is, it is left for us to understand that they still had issues with Jesus physical features, despite knowing that the person inviting theM to a meal is actually Jesus.

I for one believe that only spirits do appear and dissappear at will!
spirits can manifest physical bodies of any liking for any particular purpose, the scriptures is awash with such occurrences, they can even use it to have sex sef!
sir do you ever read the scriptures at all.
It says flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God!
human body is flesh and blood!
how then do you espect the king of gods kingdom to have flesh and blood while his Co rulers do not!
how do you expect the physical to rule in the spiritual realm.
brocab, Jesus was a spirit before he came to earth, was he not?
how come , you refuse him his spirit nature when he had accomplished the work he was sent to do here on earth?

brocab:
From the truth

sir, I'm not backing away from the truth!

[quote author=solite3 post=46190930]quote author=solite3 post=46174344]Solite still loading.next will be on the overwhelming proof that Jesus is God. but first I want to ask all Jehovah witness this question

IS JESUS A TRUE GOD OR A FALSE GOD.
since you said Jesus is a God, is it not good to know the type of God he is?



quote author=solite3 post=46174344]Solite still loading.next will be on the overwhelming proof that Jesus is God. but first I want to ask all Jehovah witness this question

[b]IS JESUS A TRUE GOD OR A FALSE GOD.[/b]
since you said Jesus is a God, is it not good to know the type of God he is?

Jozzy4:
contained or from the bible.

and am happy u cant verify ur statement from the bible. the worst part was u showing how dubious u are by giving me Romans 8:9 that says nothing about Jesus and God been one spirit . only for you to later admit its not in the scriptures, why give bible verse in the first place ?

I had wanted to keep quiet but I just can't understand the way u understand scripture:

Let's list certain things for u, you believe prov 8 is about Jesus correct? Good, does proverb 8 mention the name of Jesus? No, yet you said it's talking about Jesus, why? Because you believe based on the statements in prov 8, there's only one person that can be fit into that chapter(scripture interpretation).correct? I bet. you claim it's Jesus but was Jesus' name mentioned? No. Now Romans 8:9 mentioned the Spirit of God and then mentioned the Spirit of Christ as one and the same Spirit. Let me quote it to

Romans 8:9Amplified Bible (AMP)

9 However, you are not [living] in the flesh [controlled by the sinful nature] but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God lives in you [directing and guiding you]. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him [and is not a child of God].


If the Spirit of God lives in you...BUT if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ,... what does it mean? Paul used the Spirit of God and the Spirit as one same Spirit. Scripture interpretation. Common sense. I believe any learned person will understand this. If You want scripture to say God's Spirit is Christ's Spirit, like my bro said you can't find anywhere the same way you can't find anywhere that prov 8 is talking about Christ yet u blv it's Christ, and the same way no scripture says Christ is angel Michael yet u think He is. Now why do you want us to show where it is stated that the Spirit of God is the Spirit of Christ? When you yourself cannot show us the Christ is Michael.Can't you see the irony in your question? Or should I say your stupidity? And even if there's a scripture that says so you guys will not accept it bcs You would have already changed it in your bible, eg "and the Word was God" yet you say " and the word was a god" you changed scripture to suit your doctrine, so it would have been done again just to suit you blasphemous doctrine . But then we say and confirm to you that Pro 8 does not talk about Christ so whether created is used there or not I have never said prov 8 is talking about Christ and we gave you a proof of it, the same way Christ is not an angel which we explained to you too. The link I gave you used a bible version that used the word create bcs of the the question asked. Questioner used create, should he use possess to explain? No, no learned person does or will do that. Do you understand now? if not then show this comment to your teacher to explain to you bcs your brain is not matured enough to comprehend these things.

johnw74:
Wow, such confusion and lack of understanding, and twisting, and straight out lies in all his posts




Lie Lie jozzy







I have never said Jesus is not the word, and you cannot post a quote where I did, that's another lie from Lie Lie jozzy

I never mentioned Jesus (flesh and blood) I mentioned the word (Spirit) that's what I was talking about,
the Word became flesh, but you cannot understand and so call out liar like a good little false jw.







Lie Lie jozzy, I have always said the Word became Jesus Christ, as for Jesus Christ being God's Spirit, I wouldn't discuss it with false jw who hasn't a clue and cannot have because he has been blinded through unbelief.







Lie Lie jozzy


Yet you cannot show a single lie.







No lie there at all, that's perfectly true






Again no lie there at all, that's perfectly true







I never said Jesus is the Holy Spirit
I said the Word is the Holy Spirit
It's not to do with Jesus being the Word
I was correcting your misquoting me all through these posts







I said the word is God's Spirit, no lie there.







No lie, again I was correcting your misquoting








Lie Lie jozzy


Of course the word is the Spirit of God, look at scripture I posted, < that was silly, telling false jw to look at the scriptures
Of course Jesus Christ is the Word, read John 1
Of course the spirit of God is the Holy Spirit, who else could the Holy Spirit be, God is Holy, God is Spirit.


such confusion and lack of understanding, and twisting, and straight out lies in all false jw jozzy's posts

someone earlier said to cover a lie, more lies have to be told . thats so true and beginning to see your true color.

you admit Jesus is the Word, only for you to deny this again simply because u know the consequence of your statement. and am suprised ur fellows cant correct u with this nonsense u are spewing, the Word is Gods spirit but Jesus is flesh and blood. u are now trying to separate the Word from Jesus christ ? u are a damn liar .


LET me tell you more :

going by your analogy , if the Word is Gods spirit .. you are actually saying Gods spirit ( holyspirit) became Jesus , do u know ?


this is the height of blindness

zodiakzax:
I had wanted to keep quiet but I just can't understand the way u understand scripture:

Let's list certain things for u, you believe prov 8 is about Jesus correct? Good, does proverb 8 mention the name of Jesus? No, yet you said it's talking about Jesus, why? Because you believe based on the statements in prov 8, there's only one person that can be fit into that chapter(scripture interpretation).correct? I bet. you claim it's Jesus but was Jesus' name mentioned? No. Now Romans 8:9 mentioned the Spirit of God and then mentioned the Spirit of Christ as one and the same Spirit. Let me quote it to

Romans 8:9Amplified Bible (AMP)

9 However, you are not [living] in the flesh [controlled by the sinful nature] but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God lives in you [directing and guiding you]. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him [and is not a child of God].


If the Spirit of God lives in you...BUT if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ,... what does it mean? Paul used the Spirit of God and the Spirit as one same Spirit. Scripture interpretation.

Common sense. I believe any learned person will understand this. If You want scripture to say God's Spirit is Christ's Spirit, like my bro said you can't find anywhere the same way you can't find anywhere that prov 8 is talking about Christ yet u blv it's Christ, and the same way no scripture says Christ is angel Michael yet u think He is. Now why do you want us to show where it is stated that the Spirit of God is the Spirit of Christ? When you yourself cannot show us the Christ is Michael.Can't you see the irony in your question? Or should I say your stupidity? And even if there's a scripture that says so you guys will not accept it bcs You would have already changed it in your bible, eg "and the Word was God" yet you say " and the word was a god" you changed scripture to suit your doctrine, so it would have been done again just to suit you blasphemous doctrine .

anger takes away a mans thinking cap... very true.


I never asked him to show me if spirit of God is also called spirit of Christ. so next time comprehend well

@ Romans 8:9 ... the spirit mentioned there is the holyspirit which is called Spirit of God or Spirit of Christ , the son of the Living God.

his statement was : God nd Jesus is one Spirit.. this is what I asked him to show me ! unless u wanna tell me God and Jesus is holyspirit...

But then we say and confirm to you that Pro 8 does not talk about Christ so whether created is used there or not I have never said prov 8 is talking about Christ and we gave you a proof of it, the same way Christ is not an angel which we explained to you too. The link I gave you used a bible version that used the word create bcs of the the question asked. Questioner used create, should he use possess to explain? No, no learned person does or will do that. Do you understand now? if not then show this comment to your teacher to explain to you bcs your brain is not matured enough to comprehend these things.

@ bold , Create is used there confirmed by the greek Septuagint , if going by ur interpretation .. its talking about the Impersonal attribute of God, Wisdom . then answer me, does this mean there was a time Yahweh Almighty didnt have wisdom ?

zodiakzax:
I had wanted to keep quiet but I just can't understand the way u understand scripture:

Let's list certain things for u, you believe prov 8 is about Jesus correct? Good, does proverb 8 mention the name of Jesus? No, yet you said it's talking about Jesus, why? Because you believe based on the statements in prov 8, there's only one person that can be fit into that chapter(scripture interpretation).correct? I bet. you claim it's Jesus but was Jesus' name mentioned? No. Now Romans 8:9 mentioned the Spirit of God and then mentioned the Spirit of Christ as one and the same Spirit. Let me quote it to

Romans 8:9Amplified Bible (AMP)

9 However, you are not [living] in the flesh [controlled by the sinful nature] but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God lives in you [directing and guiding you]. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him [and is not a child of God].


If the Spirit of God lives in you...BUT if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ,... what does it mean? Paul used the Spirit of God and the Spirit as one same Spirit. Scripture interpretation. Common sense. I believe any learned person will understand this. If You want scripture to say God's Spirit is Christ's Spirit, like my bro said you can't find anywhere the same way you can't find anywhere that prov 8 is talking about Christ yet u blv it's Christ, and the same way no scripture says Christ is angel Michael yet u think He is. Now why do you want us to show where it is stated that the Spirit of God is the Spirit of Christ? When you yourself cannot show us the Christ is Michael.Can't you see the irony in your question? Or should I say your stupidity? And even if there's a scripture that says so you guys will not accept it bcs You would have already changed it in your bible, eg "and the Word was God" yet you say " and the word was a god" you changed scripture to suit your doctrine, so it would have been done again just to suit you blasphemous doctrine . But then we say and confirm to you that Pro 8 does not talk about Christ so whether created is used there or not I have never said prov 8 is talking about Christ and we gave you a proof of it, the same way Christ is not an angel which we explained to you too. The link I gave you used a bible version that used the word create bcs of the the question asked. Questioner used create, should he use possess to explain? No, no learned person does or will do that. Do you understand now? if not then show this comment to your teacher to explain to you bcs your brain is not matured enough to comprehend these things.

don't mind him, he prefer to apply proverb 8:22 which was in poetry literarily but when I gave him a straight forward verse he is said it was not scriptural. Jehovah witness are lost, following their natural instinct.

[quote author=Jozzy4 post=46211966]

anger takes away a mans thinking cap... very true.

that's you

I never asked him to show me if spirit of God is also called spirit of Christ.

if the spirit of Christ is also the spirit of God what does it imply

[b[quote]]so next time comprehend well[/b]

@bold this one is for you jozzy

@ Romans 8:9 ... the spirit mentioned there is the holyspirit which is called Spirit of God or Spirit of Christ , the son of the Living God.

your confusion has entered another level

his statement was : God nd Jesus is one Spirit.. this is what I asked him to show me ! unless u wanna tell me God and Jesus is holyspirit...

hmm what can I say

@ bold , Create is used there confirmed by the greek Septuagint , if going by ur interpretation .. its talking about the Impersonal attribute of God, Wisdom . [color=red] [b] then answer me, does this mean there was a time Yahweh Almighty didnt have wisdom ?

it is you interpreting that verse literally, you explain how God created wisdom

Jozzy4:
anger takes away a mans thinking cap... very true.


I never asked him to show me if spirit of God is also called spirit of Christ. so next time comprehend well

@ Romans 8:9 ... the spirit mentioned there is the holyspirit which is called Spirit of God or Spirit of Christ , the son of the Living God.

his statement was : God nd Jesus is one Spirit.. this is what I asked him to show me ! unless u wanna tell me God and Jesus is holyspirit...




@ bold , Create is used there confirmed by the greek Septuagint , if going by ur interpretation .. its talking about the Impersonal attribute of God, Wisdom . then answer me, does this mean there was a time Yahweh Almighty didnt have wisdom ?

so if the Holy Spirit is called the Spirit of God or the Spirit of Christ, then is the Spirit of God not the same us the Spirit of Christ?

[quote author=Jozzy4 post=46175314]nobody is dribbling you man, you are the confuse person . the issue of true God or false God only applies to the sovereignty of the universe which doesnt belong to Jesus.


for example, the bible call humans Gods ... it will be foolish to ask if humans are true or false Gods because we don't fit into any of that category . our being God is due to having some authority not that we are the supreme being.

so also Jesus is not the supreme being , thus that question is invalid.

you can only ask if Yahweh is a true God or false God because he is the supreme being.

[quote author=Jozzy4 post=46175314]

nobody is dribbling you man, you are the confuse person . the issue of true God or false God only applies to the sovereignty of the universe which doesnt belong to Jesus.


for example, the bible call humans Gods ... it will be foolish to ask if humans are true or false Gods because we don't fit into any of that category . our being God is due to having some authority not that we are the supreme being.

so also Jesus is not the supreme being , thus that question is invalid.

you can only ask if Yahweh is a true God or false God because he is the supreme being

. jozzy laff wan finis me