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SidL:
From my perspective, how close to truth you are. And yet, there is a third option, which is neither. Ah well...

SidL:
From my perspective, how close to truth you are. And yet, there is a third option, which is neither. Ah well...

I wonder what neither could mean in context. There is or there isn't . what does neither represent?

absolutism:
there is and there isn't. I can't see a third option

SidL:
Well simple, the third option is that both sides are mistaken about the other and themselves.

finofaya:
Ayomivic, there were atheists long before there was sufficient scientific knowledge to comment on the possible origins of the universe. These atheists are the fools referred to in the bible and the apostates in the quran.

absolutism:
is there a ball on the table a) there is a ball on the table b) there is no ball on the table c) is there another option to answer this question? Seriously

ValentineMary:
I hope u know say to they argue with u don tire me? u no dey ever get point.

KingEbukasBlog:
There is no sufficient knowledge of anything . Its more assumptions and ridiculous theories . Atheists were fools then , they are still now and will still be .


Fine baby . Hopefully , you are female

SidL:
The answer is neither AND both, simultaneously.

Ever heard of hermaphrodites? Presumably both Male and Female and yet, hermaphrodites are neither male nor female.

There is always a third option. That third option is that Atheism and Theism are both halves of the same coin of uncertainty about truths of existence born out arrogance and the need to be more correct than the other.

SidL:
The answer is neither AND both, simultaneously.

Ever heard of hermaphrodites? Presumably both Male and Female and yet, hermaphrodites are neither male nor female.

There is always a third option. That third option is that Atheism and Theism are both halves of the same coin of uncertainty about truths of existence born out arrogance and the need to be more correct than the other.

absolutism:
both on the table and not; neither on the table nor not. It is dangerous to talk this way. I hope you are only trying to win an argument

SidL:
The answer is neither AND both, simultaneously.

Ever heard of hermaphrodites? Presumably both Male and Female and yet, hermaphrodites are neither male nor female.

There is always a third option. That third option is that Atheism and Theism are both halves of the same coin of uncertainty about truths of existence born out arrogance and the need to be more correct than the other.

SirWere:
I smell Eastern philosophy all over this post. Do tell, are you one of those who like dealing in paradoxes

SidL:
Please can you rephrase in other words, you lost me completely.

SirWere:
Are you a proponent of Eastern religion You know, the ones where they talk about how God is love; and reincarnation and using your spirit mind to heal your body and all that crap

Cuz those people, from what I've been reading, love paradoxes like saying "The answer is both yes and no"

SidL:
Sigh... that indeed is a very sincere question--the need to win an argument--for which the value for and to the good of all is ultimately Nil, most times.
Unfortunately, all who grace this forum in the capacity we all do must accept that we become invariably tainted by the need to be correct, or more so than the other. It is from such a stance especially that the eternal debate of Theism versus Atheism is born, is it not? Both cannot be right

All I have merely done is state that there is a third option in the sense that both sides are wrong and yet, together, they both become correct.

Theism and Atheism are both travesties to Truth in my opinion.

The one comes up with doctrines about the nature of creation and its source of creation, based on Human attributes. The other comes up with theories, sometimes (not most), based on sense observations with senses that can clearly see the railroad tracks 'always' meet on the horizon or senses that can barely perceive 10% of the light spectrum.

I mean, maybe I'm the one who is in-sane, I dunno.

@ "Dangerous talk"

SidL:
Hmmm... I see. You have a burning need to categorise me lest you experience processing errors.

Why don't you tell me.

absolutism:
Stand on an imaginary fence if you will. One is right and once isn't. There is no being who came from no where, made human beings , gave them free will and created rules that if not followed will result in eternal burning. . This is a pragmatic approach you are suggesting every one could feel the good feels of no pains of great shifts. But if there is truth and people close their eyes. If the elite of Nigeria on nairaland(they really are the elite) let 80% of we the elite(nairalanders)imagine there is an imaginary guide to solve all our problems , things will not get better this way as it didn't for the generation before us who sat back and are still waiting for no one. In my mind, when I learnt my errors, it was paining that I had been wrong for 17 years true. But it could have hurt more if I continued my imagining. I encourage the atheists to guide others as most of us were guided(why bash?), the satnists to stop creating false alerts, the religious to try listening without anger as this is unwarranted. Since god should fight his fights

ValentineMary:
The rising level of ignorance is alarming. There was a thread opened about juju and I gave an explanation to how it works. I know guys who went to a native doctor and NOTHING happened. Oga most great scientist did not believe in God. Get your fact right.

SirWere:
Burning need No.... Just noticed all your post is about how two possible options are no answer at all and the answer is neither....... I dunno, I've been reading a bit about Taoism and that sounds pretty damn close

SidL:
And if it is damn close, would that be a problem?

SirWere:
Nah it won't.
I find eastern religion too impratical to survive in my country.
It seems too.......vague

SidL:
Vague? As opposed to...?

SirWere:
The normal meanderings of human life.....

It's all well and dawdy to talk about everything being a cycle, how Love is God.......

It's all right to talk about these things and pen it down. It's noble, chivalrous, basic goodness really......


But In Reality, when dealing in a messy country such as these,,,, it's nonshense.

SidL:
Are you sure that it is nonsense or is that just a knee-jerk response? Tell me, what is the way forward then? What do you propose for a messy country, or is that...a messy world you meant? What is...practical?

SidL:
The answer is neither AND both, simultaneously.

Ever heard of hermaphrodites? Presumably both Male and Female and yet, hermaphrodites are neither male nor female.

There is always a third option. That third option is that Atheism and Theism are both halves of the same coin of uncertainty about truths of existence born out arrogance and the need to be more correct than the other.

SirWere:
I don't fully know yet myself.

But I know Eastern Religion seems incompatible with day to day activities here in Nigeria.

But I know Eastern Religion seems incompatible with day to day activities here in Nigeria.

CoolUsername:
So like, Schroedinger's god?

SidL:
You mean cat?

Ah yes, the "quantum gang."

Most definitely not! Not what i meant.

I am personally irritated with scientists and their methods of inquiry which creates assumptions that their parameters of investigation are the way it works in nature. I might as well say that the way a bicycle works is how creation works because i invented the bicycle, for instance. If the cat could talk or be trained to 'meow' to a question, would a question not suffice determination of its state? Why wait to open the box to find out and why speculate while the box is closed?
Better still why didn't Schroedinger enter the box himself and find out the truth for himself while the box was closed? He may have come out more enlightened. Bunch of charlatans.

PastorAIO:
Schrodinger was referring to observations.

opening the box to look at the cat is an observation.

Getting the cat to 'meow' to a question is an observation.

Entering the box to check for yourself is an observation too.