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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by Project400: 8:18am On Jun 09, 2016
Interesting.
Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by maxzzo1(m): 8:22am On Jun 09, 2016
kinibigdeal:
Lagos Light Rail Line is too costly compare to a similar project in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia .

Please see below :


Addis Ababa Light Rail Project,Span : 34Km. Cost : $475m
number of Stations : 39
Project Tenure : 2011 - 2015

Status : The project is already completed and running effectively .

Lagos Light Rail project

Span : 27km
Cost : $1.2Bn
number of Stations : 13
project Tenure : 2010 till date
Status : not completed

Is the new 4th mainland bridge worth the cost?
FRAUD!!!
Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by lurdkriss: 8:25am On Jun 09, 2016
deeplow:
Haba na. Dont be naive. You cant compare the two. They did not include Omo onile and Akiolu in the budget for Ethiopia's light rail na. That can add quite a lot to the budget.

Nigeria is known to use better quality materials for construction. This is evident in our hospitals,schools and world class roads.

27km in Nigeria is quite longer than 34 in Ethiopia. Basis for measurement is different.

Chief Amaechi himself will corner some of the money.Na where person dey work, hin dey chop.
Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by sucess001(m): 8:28am On Jun 09, 2016
i just did some research. its the same thing in Ethiophia as Lagos...hence they need to revisit that contract....someone has not acted cleanly...


Addis Ababa Light Rail
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Addis Ababa Light Rail (Amharic: የአዲስ አበባ ቀላል ባቡር) is a light rail transportation system in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia.[3][4] A 17-kilometre (11 mi) line running from the city centre to industrial areas in the south of the city opened on 20 September 2015.[5][6] Service began on 9 November 2015 for the second line (west-east).[7][8] The total length of both lines is 31.6 kilometres (19.6 mi), with 39 stations.[7] Trains are expected to be able to reach maximum speeds of 70 km/h (43 mph).[9]

The railway was contracted by the China Railway Group Limited. The Ethiopian Railways Corporation began construction of the double track electrified light rail transit project in December 2011 after securing funds from the Export-Import Bank of China.[10] Trial operations were begun on 1 February 2015,[9] with several months of testing following that.[11] It is operated by the Shenzhen Metro Group.[12]



Light Rail running through parallel to the street (Haile Gebreselassie Avenue)
This light-rail system was the first to be built in sub-saharan Africa.[3][5][6] Of the two line rail lines, the east-west line extends 17.4 kilometres (10.8 mi), stretching from Ayat Village to Torhailoch, and passing through Megenagna, Meskel Square, Legehar and Mexico Square. The north-south line, which is 16.9 kilometres (10.5 mi) in length, passes through Menelik II Square, Merkato, Lideta, Legehar, Meskel Square, Gotera and Kaliti. However, two lines have a common track of about 2.7 km.[10]The common track is the elevated section which runs east to west across the southern edge of the CBD from Meskel Square to Mexico Square, and onwards to Lideta. Trains on the north south line are blue and white, whilst on the east west line they are green and white. The Fares cost 2-6 Ethiopian birr.[5][6] Tickets are bought at orange coloured kiosks next to each station.

The final cost to build the railway was US$475m, with construction taking three years.[6] The Addis Ababa Light Rail was originally to have a total of 41 stations on its two lines, and each train was planned have a capacity to carry 286 passengers. This will enable the light rail transit to provide a transportation service to 15,000 passengers per hour per direction (PPHPD) and 60,000 in all four directions.[10] The railway lines have their own dedicated power grid.[6][13]

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by manutdadex(m): 8:29am On Jun 09, 2016
ba7man:
The Lagos light rail is elevated for most parts since it runs on swampy land and it's also a 2 way rail.

You'll have to calculate the cost of the pilings, the concrete footings and it's larger size to accommodate the 2 trains at the same time.

It also crosses a water body and it's complete with a super highway that runs alongside it with pedestrian bridges linking the train stations which are also elevated.

The Ethiopian Lightrail runs on land and is a normal railway line with stops alongside it.

Their specifications and topography are miles apart, hence the cost difference.

Since it's Nigeria, some inflation will be included but it's not as much as some people are trying to project.................. and which one is their own Governor doing in their own state in the first place?

what are u guys defending here?? more than two times d amount... Mtcheew

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by kinibigdeal(m): 8:33am On Jun 09, 2016
sucess001:
i just did some research. its the same thing in Ethiophia as Lagos...hence they need to revisit that contract....someone has not acted cleanly...


Addis Ababa Light Rail
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Addis Ababa Light Rail (Amharic: የአዲስ አበባ ቀላል ባቡር) is a light rail transportation system in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia.[3][4] A 17-kilometre (11 mi) line running from the city centre to industrial areas in the south of the city opened on 20 September 2015.[5][6] Service began on 9 November 2015 for the second line (west-east).[7][8] The total length of both lines is 31.6 kilometres (19.6 mi), with 39 stations.[7] Trains are expected to be able to reach maximum speeds of 70 km/h (43 mph).[9]

The railway was contracted by the China Railway Group Limited. The Ethiopian Railways Corporation began construction of the double track electrified light rail transit project in December 2011 after securing funds from the Export-Import Bank of China.[10] Trial operations were begun on 1 February 2015,[9] with several months of testing following that.[11] It is operated by the Shenzhen Metro Group.[12]



Light Rail running through parallel to the street (Haile Gebreselassie Avenue)
This light-rail system was the first to be built in sub-saharan Africa.[3][5][6] Of the two line rail lines, the east-west line extends 17.4 kilometres (10.8 mi), stretching from Ayat Village to Torhailoch, and passing through Megenagna, Meskel Square, Legehar and Mexico Square. The north-south line, which is 16.9 kilometres (10.5 mi) in length, passes through Menelik II Square, Merkato, Lideta, Legehar, Meskel Square, Gotera and Kaliti. However, two lines have a common track of about 2.7 km.[10]The common track is the elevated section which runs east to west across the southern edge of the CBD from Meskel Square to Mexico Square, and onwards to Lideta. Trains on the north south line are blue and white, whilst on the east west line they are green and white. The Fares cost 2-6 Ethiopian birr.[5][6] Tickets are bought at orange coloured kiosks next to each station.

The final cost to build the railway was US$475m, with construction taking three years.[6] The Addis Ababa Light Rail was originally to have a total of 41 stations on its two lines, and each train was planned have a capacity to carry 286 passengers. This will enable the light rail transit to provide a transportation service to 15,000 passengers per hour per direction (PPHPD) and 60,000 in all four directions.[10] The railway lines have their own dedicated power grid.[6][13]

ba7man:
The Lagos light rail is elevated for most parts since it runs on swampy land and it's also a 2 way rail.
You'll have to calculate the cost of the pilings, the concrete footings and it's larger size to accommodate the 2 trains at the same time.
It also crosses a water body and it's complete with a super highway that runs alongside it with pedestrian bridges linking the train stations which are also elevated.
The Ethiopian Lightrail runs on land and is a normal railway line with stops alongside it.
Their specifications and topography are miles apart, hence the cost difference.
Since it's Nigeria, some inflation will be included but it's not as much as some people are trying to project.................. and which one is their own Governor doing in their own state in the first place?
Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by calyto: 8:36am On Jun 09, 2016
kinibigdeal:
Lagos Light Rail Line is too costly compare to a similar project in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia .

Please see below :


Addis Ababa Light Rail Project,Span : 34Km. Cost : $475m
number of Stations : 39
Project Tenure : 2011 - 2015

Status : The project is already completed and running effectively .

Lagos Light Rail project

Span : 27km
Cost : $1.2Bn
number of Stations : 13
project Tenure : 2010 till date
Status : not completed

Is the new 4th mainland bridge worth the cost?



The answer is as simple as realizing the terrain difference.
For instance sir, I built a house down to lintel level in Benue State will less than 2.5m while i am still battling with mere foundation in my small piece of land in Olowo-ola,Igando with 2m plus.

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by SSkillzzz(m): 8:36am On Jun 09, 2016
ever811:
hope u read the news about a yoloba man that stole ,$4 million in London today..if u do then you hv got the answer its in there blood..
I'm sure yu hv also read the news about two yeeboo students (a boy n a girl) who scammed their lecturer in Edo state...

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by anonimi: 8:37am On Jun 09, 2016

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by dacovajnr: 8:37am On Jun 09, 2016
kinibigdeal:
Lagos Light Rail Line is too costly compare to a similar project in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia .

Please see below :


Addis Ababa Light Rail Project,Span : 34Km. Cost : $475m
number of Stations : 39
Project Tenure : 2011 - 2015

Status : The project is already completed and running effectively .

Lagos Light Rail project

Span : 27km
Cost : $1.2Bn
number of Stations : 13
project Tenure : 2010 till date
Status : not completed

Is the new 4th mainland bridge worth the cost?
See the way you stylishly dissed our countiri grin
Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by Brayss(m): 8:41am On Jun 09, 2016
High rate Embezlement

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by anonimi: 8:41am On Jun 09, 2016
manutdadex:
what are u guys defending here?? more than two times d amount... Mtcheew

Don't mind these people who have allowed their brains to be swept out by the winchious broom of APC.


eaglechild:
We can't complete Lagos light rail project

We obviously can't complete Lekki international phantom airport.

And you will be the biggest fool to think that we can complete Eko Atlantic.

Use your head people where do you think we are getting all the money we are using to sponsor Buhari undecided


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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by gonkraziiiiii: 8:42am On Jun 09, 2016
Because d guy handling d project has to save some money for his children's children's children's children na
Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by 12inchDickson: 8:42am On Jun 09, 2016
Scholes007:
Possible thing that can change the cost of such project significantly is the terrain. Lagos is a swampy area and any construction project is likely to cost more than conventional. Also the population that will use it determines the quality of things or will you want to waste millions for it to fail so soon?
u r a professional,

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by martineverest(m): 8:43am On Jun 09, 2016
Because they want to satisfy Tinubu
Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by Nobody: 8:44am On Jun 09, 2016
The sad demise of nl and Nigeria.
Once upon a time, professionals, even consultants from the project would be slugging it out, showing detailed breakdowns, CBAs, Stakeholder issues etc.

Today we have semi literate simpletons using puerile arguments.

Does the Ethiopia metro pass through a developed area?
Is it the exact same scope?

The project is ultimately supervised by the world bank

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by phantomsailor: 8:45am On Jun 09, 2016
I was in Ethiopia last month and saw the metro line, one big difference is the absence of the huge rail station that the Lagos rail line has, what the have is mini stations like Lagos BRT Bus stops. The Ethiopian rail line did not pass through and water body as someone mentioned. Ethiopian rail is electric but Lagos is locomotive I don't know which is cheaper.

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by laginks: 8:45am On Jun 09, 2016
[size=16pt]next they would tell us all APC members are saints.... forgetting that it is the same set of corrupt people everywhere.....


God help NIGERIA[/size]

kinibigdeal:
Lagos Light Rail Line is too costly compare to a similar project in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia .

Please see below :


Addis Ababa Light Rail Project,Span : 34Km. Cost : $475m
number of Stations : 39
Project Tenure : 2011 - 2015

Status : The project is already completed and running effectively .

Lagos Light Rail project

Span : 27km
Cost : $1.2Bn
number of Stations : 13
project Tenure : 2010 till date
Status : not completed

Is the new 4th mainland bridge worth the cost?
Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by nairalandankrah: 8:48am On Jun 09, 2016
omoh nah jamb question you ask so o! anyway the reason is because the contract must first pass through nigeria's ministry of corruption for authentic endorsement and confirmation. very simple as abc
Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by dyn1800: 8:51am On Jun 09, 2016
give us source to your comparison


kinibigdeal:
Lagos Light Rail Line is too costly compare to a similar project in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia .

Please see below :


Addis Ababa Light Rail Project,Span : 34Km. Cost : $475m
number of Stations : 39
Project Tenure : 2011 - 2015

Status : The project is already completed and running effectively .

Lagos Light Rail project

Span : 27km
Cost : $1.2Bn
number of Stations : 13
project Tenure : 2010 till date
Status : not completed

Is the new 4th mainland bridge worth the cost?
Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by adconline(m): 8:54am On Jun 09, 2016
Keep asking.. Amechi's monorail of 8km got $1.2bn without completion

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by NePro: 8:55am On Jun 09, 2016
deeplow:
Haba na. Dont be naive. You cant compare the two. They did not include Omo onile and Akiolu in the budget for Ethiopia's light rail na. That can add quite a lot to the budget.

Nigeria is known to use better quality materials for construction. This is evident in our hospitals,schools and world class roads.

27km in Nigeria is quite longer than 34 in Ethiopia. Basis for measurement is different.

Chief Amaechi himself will corner some of the money.Na where person dey work, hin dey chop.

U no complete the sentence. Nah why dey call am work-chop
Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by Nobody: 8:57am On Jun 09, 2016
...& Yet they called for the head of blair for tagging nig. fantastically CORRUPT!
Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by misanho: 8:59am On Jun 09, 2016
Our country, Nigeria, has a country risk ratings that is way higher and this have always led to a higher cost of infrastructural and developmental project within our shores, and example is the GTL plant in escravos - Nigeria (about $10B) which almost 4 times the Qatar GTL plant (about $2B) and off course the 'Lagas light rail project. This high risk rate is as a result of the country's Political instability, falling commodity prices, central-bank policy uncertainties and conflict were the principal negative risk factors for investors to contemplate at the turn of the year, also are the investment risk of a country, such as risk of default on a bond, risk of losing direct investment, risk to global business relations alongside economic performance/projections, structural assessment, debt and Credit Ratings, access to bank finance, access to capital markets, etc.

Well, with all these at play, would you as a foreign contractor not protect your company, machines/equipment, staff, finances, and all forms of investments etc with more and higher insurances, security, etc? Lol

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by ogmask: 9:15am On Jun 09, 2016
ba7man:
The Lagos light rail is elevated for most parts since it runs on swampy land and it's also a 2 way rail.

You'll have to calculate the cost of the pilings, the concrete footings and it's larger size to accommodate the 2 trains at the same time.

It also crosses a water body and it's complete with a super highway that runs alongside it with pedestrian bridges linking the train stations which are also elevated.

The Ethiopian Lightrail runs on land and is a normal railway line with stops alongside it.

Their specifications and topography are miles apart, hence the cost difference.

Since it's Nigeria, some inflation will be included but it's not as much as some people are trying to project.................. and which one is their own Governor doing in their own state in the first place?


Wike called the rivers monorail "Amaechi monorail". He promised not to put a finger on that project and pple are cheering him. For lots of these folks here, they prefer to do out of this world comparison pretending to be smart. Their states are littered with guiness book of world record ROUNDABOUTS. At best you see a few blank streetlights hanging hopelessly on the road.
For me, it's either the OP is mischievous or outright ignorant.

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by Nobody: 9:20am On Jun 09, 2016
well one is located in Nigeria,the other is in Ethiopia,Being a Nigerian we know why the one here is costlier
Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by jaz(m): 9:21am On Jun 09, 2016
All fingers point to the current minister for works
kinibigdeal:
Lagos Light Rail Line is too costly compare to a similar project in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia .

Please see below :


Addis Ababa Light Rail Project,Span : 34Km. Cost : $475m
number of Stations : 39
Project Tenure : 2011 - 2015

Status : The project is already completed and running effectively .

Lagos Light Rail project

Span : 27km
Cost : $1.2Bn
number of Stations : 13
project Tenure : 2010 till date
Status : not completed

Is the new 4th mainland bridge worth the cost?
Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by fsb(m): 9:23am On Jun 09, 2016
[quote author=kinibigdeal post=46407026][/quote]

No sir. Most of the rail line is elevated as at the last time I visited Addis.
Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by GuyfawkesAB(m): 9:28am On Jun 09, 2016
The problem of this Nation is not the current power outages, high inflation or corruption. It is the dearth of intelligent, patriotic, well-educated and driven youth, the power base of any Nation. I see a reflection of the type of future we face in the posts, responses and reasoning of the youth here on Nairaland.

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Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by Nobody: 9:30am On Jun 09, 2016
deeplow:
Haba na. Dont be naive. You cant compare the two. They did not include Omo onile and Akiolu in the budget for Ethiopia's light rail na. That can add quite a lot to the budget.

Nigeria is known to use better quality materials for construction. This is evident in our hospitals,schools and world class roads.

27km in Nigeria is quite longer than 34 in Ethiopia. Basis for measurement is different.

Chief Amaechi himself will corner some of the money.Na where person dey work, hin dey chop.
LOL. Bros you are too funny.
Re: Opinion: Why Is Lagos Light Rail Project Costlier Than That Of Ethiopia? by kinnlive(m): 9:30am On Jun 09, 2016
deeplow:
Haba na. Dont be naive. You cant compare the two. They did not include Omo onile and Akiolu in the budget for Ethiopia's light rail na. That can add quite a lot to the budget.

Nigeria is known to use better quality materials for construction. This is evident in our hospitals,schools and world class roads.

27km in Nigeria is quite longer than 34 in Ethiopia. Basis for measurement is different. It's crazy mehn


Chief Amaechi himself will corner some of the money.Na where person dey work, hin dey chop.

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