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Re: Hell Will Be Hotter For Deeper Life Sinners - W.F. Kumuyi by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:35pm On May 29, 2016
OLAADEGBU:


Did you read the part where the article said that both the spirit and the soul are connected but still separate?

It's connected because the spirit is part of the soul . But sometimes they are used interchangeably
Re: Hell Will Be Hotter For Deeper Life Sinners - W.F. Kumuyi by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:37pm On May 29, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


It's connected because the spirit is part of the soul . But sometimes they are used interchangeably

Read this article and then give us your feedback.

http://www.gotquestions.org/human-soul.html
Re: Hell Will Be Hotter For Deeper Life Sinners - W.F. Kumuyi by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:45pm On May 29, 2016
OLAADEGBU:


Read this article and then give us your feedback.

http://www.gotquestions.org/human-soul.html

Same response . There 's a connection and can be used interchangeably . But It's more appropriate to use spirit when talking about the immaterial part of humans .
Re: Hell Will Be Hotter For Deeper Life Sinners - W.F. Kumuyi by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:54pm On May 29, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Same response . There 's a connection and can be used interchangeably . But It's more appropriate to use spirit when talking about the immaterial part of humans .

Let me narrow it down to this excerpt from the last paragraph of the article:

It has been said that there are only two things that last: the Word of God (Mark 13:31) and the souls of men. This is because, like God's Word, the soul is an imperishable thing. That thought should be both sobering and awe-inspiring. Every person you meet is an eternal soul. Every human being who has ever lived is a soul, and all of those souls are still in existence somewhere. The question is, where? The souls that reject God's love are condemned to pay for their own sin, eternally, in hell (Romans 6:23). But the souls who acknowledge their own sinfulness and accept God's gracious gift of forgiveness will live forever beside still waters with their Shepherd, wanting for nothing (Psalm 23:2).
Re: Hell Will Be Hotter For Deeper Life Sinners - W.F. Kumuyi by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:59pm On May 29, 2016
OLAADEGBU:


Let me narrow it down to this excerpt from the last paragraph of the article:

So you saying it's more appropriate to use soul instead of spirit ?
Re: Hell Will Be Hotter For Deeper Life Sinners - W.F. Kumuyi by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:16pm On May 29, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


So you saying it's more appropriate to use soul instead of spirit ?

What I am saying is that the human soul is imperishable, it is eternal, connected with our spirits and yet distinct.

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Re: Hell Will Be Hotter For Deeper Life Sinners - W.F. Kumuyi by Jozzy4: 9:02pm On May 29, 2016
OLAADEGBU:


"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul" (Genesis 2:7).
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Here you see Adam's spirit and soul imparted to him directly by God. Read your Bibles [/s] . smiley
U are a liar .

The scripture above said God breathed into HIS NOSTRILS the breath of life. Not that he imparted a spirit entity to his body. Nostrils pls.

And besides he became a Living Soul not given a soul. Became pls.


You are a confirm liar . am happy the bible is xposing you

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Re: Hell Will Be Hotter For Deeper Life Sinners - W.F. Kumuyi by goodnews201668: 4:07pm On May 30, 2016
OLAADEGBU:


It's the body that sleeps, the spirit and soul of man lives on. cool

You said earlier that the spirit goes back to God.
Anyways can the soul and spirit be alive and the Bible says the dead are unconscious?

Well at least you learnt God doesn't judge the dead, when it's time for judgement they'll be resurrected.
Re: Hell Will Be Hotter For Deeper Life Sinners - W.F. Kumuyi by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:24am On Jun 09, 2016
Jozzy4:


U are a liar .

Are you calling God a liar?

Jozzy4:


The scripture above said God breathed into HIS NOSTRILS the breath of life. Not that he imparted a spirit entity to his body. Nostrils pls.

And besides he became a Living Soul not given a soul. Became pls.

Let me break the verse down into bitesizes if that will help you grasp the truth of our being.

"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground".... (Genesis 2:7a).

It is plainly recorded here that Adam's body was formed out of the "elements of the earth" same as animals'.

"....and breathed into his nostrils the breadth of life".... (Genesis 2:7b).

What man has in common with animals is breath and soul but the difference is that Adam's breath (spirit) and soul were imparted directly by God while that of animals' were indirect.

"....and man became a living soul" (Genesis 2:7c).

This is the result of direct impartation of man's spirit and soul. We see here that Adam was not only created in God's spiritual image but he was also made in God's physical image. Adam's body was specifically planned to be most suited for the divine fellowship and that God Himself would one day assume as He eventually did in our Lord Jesus Christ (1 Peter 1:20).

Jozzy4:


You are a confirm liar . am happy the bible is xposing you

You are the one denying God's word. You are unable to provide the evidence that God's Word is a lie. When you don't believe the truth of God's Word you are then open into believing a lie from the pit of hell. If God says it in His Word and I believe it, that settles it for me.
Re: Hell Will Be Hotter For Deeper Life Sinners - W.F. Kumuyi by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:42am On Jun 09, 2016
goodnews201668:


You said earlier that the spirit goes back to God.
Anyways can the soul and spirit be alive and the Bible says the dead are unconscious?

Can you do us a favour by quoting where the Bible says that the soul and spirit of a dead man is unconscious?

goodnews201668:


Well at least you learnt God doesn't judge the dead, when it's time for judgement they'll be resurrected.

Before the resurrection of the physical bodies the spirit/soul of man lives on either in heaven or hell.

"All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again" (Ecclesiastes 3:20).

This statement refers to the universal curse God pronounced on man and all his creatures because of disobedience. Both men and animals where made out of the basic elements of the earth and their physical bodies is said to return to the earth at death.

"Who knows the spirit of man that goes upward, and the spirit of the beast that goes downward to the earth?" (Ecclesiastes 3:21).

Spirit is the same word for breath. The human spirit is that aspect where man communicates with God's Spirit and this is what returns to God at death. Animals do not have this aspect.
Re: Hell Will Be Hotter For Deeper Life Sinners - W.F. Kumuyi by goodnews201668: 11:50pm On Jun 09, 2016
Eclesiastics 9:10,

OLAADEGBU:


Can you do us a favour by quoting where the Bible says that the soul and spirit of a dead man is unconscious?



Before the resurrection of the physical bodies the spirit/soul of man lives on either in heaven or hell.

"All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again" (Ecclesiastes 3:20).

This statement refers to the universal curse God pronounced on man and all his creatures because of disobedience. Both men and animals where made out of the basic elements of the earth and their physical bodies is said to return to the earth at death.

"Who knows the spirit of man that goes upward, and the spirit of the beast that goes downward to the earth?" (Ecclesiastes 3:21).

Spirit is the same word for breath. The human spirit is that aspect where man communicates with God's Spirit and this is what returns to God at death. Animals do not have this aspect.
Re: Hell Will Be Hotter For Deeper Life Sinners - W.F. Kumuyi by Jozzy4: 3:55pm On Jun 10, 2016
OLAADEGBU:




Let me break the verse down into bitesizes if that will help you grasp the truth of our being.

"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground".... (Genesis 2:7a).

It is plainly recorded here that Adam's body was formed out of the "elements of the earth" same as animals'.



are you serious at all ? do you think you are among the babies in ur church that you spoonfed with ur illegal teachings , did it say THE MAN was formed from the ground or THE BODY was formed from the ground ? answer me


"....and breathed into his nostrils the breadth of life".... (Genesis 2:7b).

What man has in common with animals is breath and soul but the difference is that Adam's breath (spirit) and soul were imparted directly by God while that of animals' were indirect.


you cant twist anything here oladegbu , MAN and animals have the same breath of life in their nostrils ? simple YES OR NO is required here .



"....and man became a living soul" (Genesis 2:7c).

This is the result of direct impartation of man's spirit and soul. We see here that Adam was not only created in God's spiritual image but he was also made in God's physical image. Adam's body was specifically planned to be most suited for the divine fellowship and that God Himself would one day assume as He eventually did in our Lord Jesus Christ (1 Peter 1:20).



You are the one denying God's word. You are unable to provide the evidence that God's Word is a lie. When you don't believe the truth of God's Word you are then open into believing a lie from the pit of hell. If God says it in His Word and I believe it, that settles it for me.


dont confuse yourself more with the confusion you have already .... did the bible say THE MAN was formed out of the ground OR the BODY was formed ? answer me

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Re: Hell Will Be Hotter For Deeper Life Sinners - W.F. Kumuyi by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:57pm On Jun 17, 2016
goodnews201668:


Eclesiastics 9:10,

What about it? undecided
Re: Hell Will Be Hotter For Deeper Life Sinners - W.F. Kumuyi by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:46am On Jun 23, 2016
Jozzy4:


are you serious at all ? do you think you are among the babies in ur church that you spoonfed with ur illegal teachings , did it say THE MAN was formed from the ground or THE BODY was formed from the ground ? answer me

This is the consequence of being taught half truths and lies. The truth become lies while you take lies as the gospel truth. embarassed

Jozzy4:


you cant twist anything here oladegbu , MAN and animals have the same breath of life in their nostrils ? simple YES OR NO is required here .

The breath of life of mankind was directly imparted. That is why Adam was created in God's image, animals are not created in God's image the reason animals' spirit goes down at death and not up.

Jozzy4:


dont confuse yourself more with the confusion you have already .... did the bible say THE MAN was formed out of the ground OR the BODY was formed ? answer me

Why should I confuse you with the truth when your mind has no more room for it? undecided
Re: Hell Will Be Hotter For Deeper Life Sinners - W.F. Kumuyi by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:10pm On Jun 24, 2016
mustymatic post=44760161

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Paulinians turned Pastorians

What do you mean about Paulinians? Paul's epistles are God breathed. smiley
Re: Hell Will Be Hotter For Deeper Life Sinners - W.F. Kumuyi by Jozzy4: 1:51pm On Jun 25, 2016
OLAADEGBU:


This is the consequence of being taught half truths and lies. The truth become lies while you take lies as the gospel truth. embarassed



The breath of life of mankind was directly imparted. That is why Adam was created in God's image, animals are not created in God's image the reason animals' spirit goes down at death and not up.



Why should I confuse you with the truth when your mind has no more room for it? undecided

Ola
kindly reply the question I asked you regarding this statement of yours. I can see you boycott it since its going to expose the falsehoods of fake teachers like you

OLAADEGBU
It is plainly recorded here that Adam's body was formed out of the "elements of the earth" same as animals'.

did the Bible say Adam body was formed out of the earth or THE MAN was formed out of the earth ??
Re: Hell Will Be Hotter For Deeper Life Sinners - W.F. Kumuyi by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:03am On Jul 01, 2016
Jozzy4:


Ola
kindly reply the question I asked you regarding this statement of yours. I can see you boycott it since its going to expose the falsehoods of fake teachers like you



did the Bible say Adam body was formed out of the earth or THE MAN was formed out of the earth ??

"And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit" (1 Cor.15:45).

The Scriptures says God formed man of the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living soul. The last Adam, Jesus Christ breathed into those who believe a life giving Spirit. Accept Jesus into your life today and receive the quickening Spirit. smiley
Re: Hell Will Be Hotter For Deeper Life Sinners - W.F. Kumuyi by Jozzy4: 1:06pm On Jul 01, 2016
OLAADEGBU:


"And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit" (1 Cor.15:45).

The Scriptures says God formed man of the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living soul. The last Adam, Jesus Christ breathed into those who believe a life giving Spirit. Accept Jesus into your life today and receive the quickening Spirit. smiley

You need Jesus the most, false preacher

am happy you now correct your initial error in the statement : " OLAADEGBU : It is plainly recorded here that Adam's [size=27] body [/size] was formed out of the "elements of the earth"

since you can't defend the above statement which is based on pagan Greek Imortal soul and not the scriptures , you are forced to admit the Bible did not said the body was formed BUT that THE MAN himself was formed.

" OLAADEGBU: Scriptures says God formed [size=27] man [/size] of the dust of the ground"


the distinction is clear, its a welcomed development , very soon I believe your eyes will be clear to know the Truth.
Re: Hell Will Be Hotter For Deeper Life Sinners - W.F. Kumuyi by blessedvisky(m): 1:20pm On Jul 01, 2016
Jozzy4:


You need Jesus the most, false preacher

am happy you now correct your initial error in the statement : " OLAADEGBU : It is plainly recorded here that Adam's [size=27] body [/size] was formed out of the "elements of the earth"

since you can't defend the above statement which is based on pagan Greek Imortal soul and not the scriptures , you are forced to admit the Bible did not said the body was formed BUT that THE MAN himself was formed.

" OLAADEGBU: Scriptures says God formed [size=27] man [/size] of the dust of the ground"


the distinction is clear, its a welcomed development , very soon I believe your eyes will be clear to know the Truth.

Are you jehovah witness?
Re: Hell Will Be Hotter For Deeper Life Sinners - W.F. Kumuyi by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:43pm On Jul 01, 2016
blessedvisky:


Are you jehovah witness?

It is obvious. smiley
Re: Hell Will Be Hotter For Deeper Life Sinners - W.F. Kumuyi by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:46pm On Jul 01, 2016
Jozzy4:


You need Jesus the most, false preacher

am happy you now correct your initial error in the statement : " OLAADEGBU : It is plainly recorded here that Adam's [size=27] body [/size] was formed out of the "elements of the earth"

since you can't defend the above statement which is based on pagan Greek Imortal soul and not the scriptures , you are forced to admit the Bible did not said the body was formed BUT that THE MAN himself was formed.

" OLAADEGBU: Scriptures says God formed [size=27] man [/size] of the dust of the ground"


the distinction is clear, its a welcomed development , very soon I believe your eyes will be clear to know the Truth.

You need to put on the new man so that you can understand the article below:

We Are His Image

"And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him" (Colossians 3:10)

Man's body is made of the same "earth" material (Genesis 2:7) as the animals (v. 19) and as the earth itself (Genesis 1:10). Furthermore, he shares the created "soul" (Hebrew nephesh) and "spirit" (Hebrew ruach, same as “breath”) with the animals (compare 1:21; 7:15, where nephesh and ruach respectively are used of the animals). However, he shares the created "image of God" (1:27) only with God Himself.

Ever since Adam and Eve first sinned, all people have been born in innate rebellion against Him. The image of God in man has been grievously marred, and we are "dead in trespasses and sins" (Ephesians 2:1).

However, as our text reminds us, the image of God in man can be "renewed" through the great miracle of the new creation (2 Corinthians 5:17). And this includes more than just our soul/spirit nature, for we have His gracious promise that our own resurrection bodies will be "fashioned like unto his glorious body" (Philippians 3:21) when He comes again.

Evidently, God had all this in mind from the very beginning, when "in the likeness of God made he him" (Genesis 5:1). That is, He foreknew that He would one day become man, in the person of Jesus Christ, and so He created man in the image and likeness of that body/soul/spirit complex which He Himself would eventually assume.

In some mysterious way, Christ Himself is, in His eternal and glorified human body, the "image of the invisible God" (Colossians 1:15), and God amazingly has even predestinated us "to be conformed to the image of his Son" (Romans 8:29), and "we shall be like him" when we finally "see him as he is" (1 John 3:2). HMM

For more . . . .
Re: Hell Will Be Hotter For Deeper Life Sinners - W.F. Kumuyi by blessedvisky(m): 4:27pm On Jul 01, 2016
OLAADEGBU:


It is obvious. smiley

The guy sounds bitter and pained
Re: Hell Will Be Hotter For Deeper Life Sinners - W.F. Kumuyi by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:20pm On Jul 02, 2016
blessedvisky:


The guy sounds bitter and pained

I can only hope and pray that JWs have an open mind so as to allow the gospel light to shine on their hearts.

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Re: Hell Will Be Hotter For Deeper Life Sinners - W.F. Kumuyi by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:12pm On Jul 07, 2016
Lilbrown007:


WHATS THE USE IF U ARE GOING TO BURN IN HELL FOREVER SO THINK ABOUT THIS
BURNING IN HELL FOREVER = MEAN U CANT DIE
CANT DIE = MEAN U HAVE NOTING TO BE AFRAID OF
CANT DIE = HAVE UR OWN FREE WILL
CANT DIE = NOTING CAN STOP U
CANT DIE = TRYING TO STOP U = USELESS


BUT ANYWAYS SHA I DON'T BELIEVE IN THIS RELIGIOUS BULLSHIT

Hell is better imagined than experienced. Repent and believe the gospel today, tomorrow may be too late.
Re: Hell Will Be Hotter For Deeper Life Sinners - W.F. Kumuyi by goodnews201668: 12:35pm On Jul 08, 2016
If dead people are already in hell and heaven, what's the essence of the judgements? Thought judgement was to determine what their reward will be. In other words you are saying people are already receiving their rewards prior to judgement.

OLAADEGBU:


Can you do us a favour by quoting where the Bible says that the soul and spirit of a dead man is unconscious?



Before the resurrection of the physical bodies the spirit/soul of man lives on either in heaven or hell.

"All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again" (Ecclesiastes 3:20).

This statement refers to the universal curse God pronounced on man and all his creatures because of disobedience. Both men and animals where made out of the basic elements of the earth and their physical bodies is said to return to the earth at death.

"Who knows the spirit of man that goes upward, and the spirit of the beast that goes downward to the earth?" (Ecclesiastes 3:21).

Spirit is the same word for breath. The human spirit is that aspect where man communicates with God's Spirit and this is what returns to God at death. Animals do not have this aspect.
Re: Hell Will Be Hotter For Deeper Life Sinners - W.F. Kumuyi by Jozzy4: 2:00pm On Jul 08, 2016
OLAADEGBU:


You need to put on the new man so that you can understand the article below:


false preacher! go back and reread my post, next time you won't make that grave mistake of replacing Man with body according to your pagan Greek philosophy.
Re: Hell Will Be Hotter For Deeper Life Sinners - W.F. Kumuyi by Jozzy4: 2:00pm On Jul 08, 2016
OLAADEGBU:


You need to put on the new man so that you can understand the article below:


false preacher! go back and reread my post, next time you won't make that grave mistake of replacing " Man" with " body " based on your pagan Greek philosophy.
Re: Hell Will Be Hotter For Deeper Life Sinners - W.F. Kumuyi by Jozzy4: 2:07pm On Jul 08, 2016
blessedvisky:


The guy sounds bitter and pained



for your information, Christ Jesus whip some useless men in the temple, guess the reaction of people like you ' the Guy ( Jesus) sounds bitter and pained ' .


I hate people telling deliberate lies and claim they are scriptural. u can at least show me where the scripture said God formed Adams body from the ground ? since you are following your false teacher , Olaadegbu
grin grin
Re: Hell Will Be Hotter For Deeper Life Sinners - W.F. Kumuyi by blessedvisky(m): 2:40pm On Jul 08, 2016
Jozzy4:




for your information, Christ Jesus whip some useless men in the temple, guess the reaction of people like you ' the Guy ( Jesus) sounds bitter and pained ' .


I hate people telling deliberate lies and claim they are scriptural. u can at least show me where the scripture said God formed Adams body from the ground ? since you are following your false teacher , Olaadegbu
grin grin

You are an embittered and pained person that's why you have to tell LIES to defend yourself. What the Bible records is JESUS Christ chasing out the money changers and Dove sellers

Matthew 21:12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, 21:13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.

The reactions of the people were not recorded. Can you now see where bitterness has gotten you??

What makes you think Olaadegbu is my teacher?? Oh I forgot that pained people like you also tend to be irrational in thinking. You really need help.

Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

James 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

Going by these verses, we obviously see that a man's BODY came from from the Earth while the spirit comes from God. This makes Genesis 2:7 and 1:26 clearer
Re: Hell Will Be Hotter For Deeper Life Sinners - W.F. Kumuyi by Nobody: 4:34pm On Jul 08, 2016
OLAADEGBU:


Hell is better imagined than experienced. Repent and believe the gospel today, tomorrow may be too late.

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