₦airaland Forum

Etinosajay:
Sharing rice does not create political machinations.

Trust and loyalty is an important thing in politics. Especially loyalty (when you call they answer, not money)

Kenneth imasuangbon was not able to create any of those, that's why he is a lightweight politician.

Today he is neither here no there.

Ize iyamu is only barely a year old in PDP, and he is the frontrunner, because he retained his base of support, despite changing party twice.

that's my point,imasaugbon had a head start before all other candidates, he was popular and well known, like you said he refused to build a strong loyal base now he is like a feather blown anywhere by the wind.ize iyamu just came in and overtook,ize iyamu is a strategist...

Mopolchi:
Must he come from South South before he comments? Nigerians always tribalistic!

Mr man. Try to read better before making judgments.

My response is in line with an out of state commentator claiming knowledge of happenings of a place he does not live in.

I live in benin, and I understand the politics here better than him. So go and read his comment again.

Good luck to them all. May the best man win. Let d delegates choose wisely. It is we the Edolites dat has d final say cum september.

hiroz:
that's my point,imasaugbon had a head start before all other candidates, he was popular and well known, like you said he refused to build a strong loyal base now he is like a feather blown anywhere by the wind.ize iyamu just came in and overtook,ize iyamu is a strategist...

Exactly. And in my opinion, Ize iyamu will win the PDP primary, and will put up a good fight in the general elections.

Only an Obaseki or Odubu APC candidate will be able to edge him out, and it won't b easy.

Etinosajay:
Mr man. Try to read better before making judgments.

My response is in line with an out of state commentator claiming knowledge of happenings of a place he does not live in.

I live in benin, and I understand the politics here better than him. So go and read his comment again.

Well, you cannot claim that he does not live there unless you have proofs.

hiroz:
will you call a politician who jumps from one party to another a sound politician...I don't like the fact that they are all tied to oshiomole apron...I do get you point,a politician we look down on may get into office and do very well and a popular one e.g oshiomole before office may get there and mess up.I hope we can one day have a politician rise above the mediocrity of naija politics.no insults abeg,we no dey fight.

No insults my brother. Apologies if any of my previous comment was insultive.

In the long run, the people we want as leaders are people who have a record and experience in governance. They are easy to figure out. Strangers offer uncertainty

Mopolchi:
Well, you cannot claim that he does not live there unless you have proofs.

And you have proofs that he lives here?

I spotted his name, which suggest east of the niger.

Does my own name not suggest my origin?

Etinosajay:
And you have proofs that he lives here?

I spotted his name, which suggest east of the niger.

Does my own name not suggest my origin?

Names are not enough to make such conclusion. He could be very knowledgeable than you despite your claim of coming from the said state. Just learn to accommodate the other. Just as you comment on other tribes' affairs, allow him comment and later give him a superior argument why his comments are unfounded.

And the writer failed to mention that the binis hate obaseki.. We also hate PDP and Dan orbih... The best candidate would have been Godwin Oshodin running on APC platform.. There would have been no need for an election

Etinosajay:
Exactly. And in my opinion, Ize iyamu will win the PDP primary, and will put up a good fight in the general elections.

Only an Obaseki or Odubu APC candidate will be able to edge him out, and it won't b easy.

To your last statement, to those that knows the happenings in Edo inner Politics, they would tell you Ize-iyamu has the support of Party big men/women but on the field, majority masses would vote Edebiri over ize-iyamu.

As an apc man and a member of Oshiomole political family, I would prefer ize-iyamu on the field rather than edebiri. Ask an average Edo man what he thinks about ize-iyamu and he/she would tell you that he is known for being the man that helped lucky igbinedion to loot Edo State and with him also currently been investigated by efcc, pulling him down won't be as hard as people thinks.

But, only a Godwin obaseki fully backed by oshiomole can achieve this.
A God Obaseki as an apc candidate is a sure win in the 6 local govt in Edo north, owing to oshiomole popularity and acceptance there, Don't forget since Oshiomole became gov, he has never lost any election in the whole of Edo north, even the last election when majority edolites voted "our brother", Goodluck, apc still won Edo north in all elected positions.

Mopolchi:
Names are not enough to make such conclusion. He could be very knowledgeable than you despite your claim of coming from the said state. Just learn to accommodate the other. Just as you comment on other tribes' affairs, allow him comment and later give him a superior argument why his comments are unfounded.

Accommodate what? He made a generalization that the SS states are all PDP because of the 95 - 5% schism in the country. Edo Indig know what PDP did to us, and the role Iyamu played , and he's currently backed by the same people who robbed us then. I shouldn't even be explaining this because you're a stranger too, you wouldn't understand these things

satelliteDISH:
la Reporting, la perfection. The writer above is a professional in journalism. He was been fair to all parties involved without bias. Lovely.

Indeed. The writer deserves an award for this very fair, professional and unbiased report.

This is a rarity in Nigerian journalism. Not to talk of vanguard for that matter!

rexbuton:
Accommodate what? He made a generalization that the SS states are all PDP because of the 95 - 5% schism in the country. Edo Indig know what PDP did to us, and the role Iyamu played , and he's currently backed by the same people who robbed us then. I shouldn't even be explaining this because you're a stranger too, you wouldn't understand these things

You can see the same observation playing out in your reply. I think at this point I will leave the thread for only people from Edo state to comment.

rexbuton:
Accommodate what? He made a generalization that the SS states are all PDP because of the 95 - 5% schism in the country. Edo Indig know what PDP did to us, and the role Iyamu played , and he's currently backed by the same people who robbed us then. I shouldn't even be explaining this because you're a stranger too, you wouldn't understand these things

I stopped replying monikers when it comes to state politics because what majority does is to sit at the comfort of their homes maybe in owerri and want to tell you and indigene or residence or both of Edo state the happenings in Edo State.
These are the kind of people that would tell you that oshiomole has been a failure as a governor when in reality no Gov in the whole south south since 2007 can compare with oshiomole in terms of achievement as govs even though Edo State is the least earning state in south south from FG.

so bro, give them the ignoring treatment, that's what they deserve.

rexbuton:
And the writer failed to mention that the binis hate obaseki.. We also hate PDP and Dan orbih... The best candidate would have been Godwin Oshodin running on APC platform.. There would have been no need for an election

Oshodin is a no no. If you reside in Benin (or Edo), you'll realise how PDP used Oshodin, Uniben management and student's union to cause chaos and discredit Oshiomole in the events leading to the 2015 elections. Remember how PDP and oshodin turned the property dispute between Edo State Govt and Uniben into a personal, tribal, war between Oshiomole and the Bini people?

They were on TV insulting the governor, setting Comrade Buses and other people's cars ablaze just to will political points.

Worse still, it is on record that Osayuki Oshodin is a nepotistic tribal bigot. The people he employed and elevated during his headship of Uniben were exclusively Binis. Could be your reason for preferring him, though.

My people from edo state no b by 2 choose leaders by sentiment or popularity ooo. Some of dis political aspirant no get ideas to manage a state, even if dem get, dem no get strategy to implement am. My people politics done pass to vote for popularity and sentiment, now u go prove to me y u worth my vote so dat i go fit hold u responsible for ur campaign promises. "MY PEOPLE MAKE UNA WISE O"

EdCure:
Oshodin is a no no. If you reside in Benin (or Edo), you'll realise how PDP used Oshodin, Uniben management and student's union to cause chaos and discredit Oshiomole in the events leading to the 2015 elections. Remember how PDP and oshodin turned the property dispute between Edo State Govt and Uniben into a personal, tribal, war between Oshiomole and the Bini people?

They were on TV insulting the governor, setting Comrade Buses and other people's cars ablaze just to will political points.

Worse still, it is on record that Osayuki Oshodin is a nepotistic tribal bigot. The people he employed and elevated during his headship of Uniben were exclusively Binis. Could be your reason for preferring him, though.

Yeah.. Oshodin played his cards wrong. Before the demolition fiasco everyone loved him (except the esan of course).. He is probably the best VC Uniben has had in the recent past... But I don't know why he became a A PDP tool, a sick man's cup and rubbished his track record and goodwill the people had for him.

Concerning the bigotry? Who isn't? He is a bigot like Michael Ibadin, Godwin Okpere, Oserhiemen Osunbor and Adams Oshiomhole.. Before he came in, the Ibos and esan had completely overrun UNIBEN and UBTH , but he balanced things out and tipped the scales, just the way Ibadin is doing with esan people in UBTH.. Even the few months that osunbor was in govt , we know the gate phrase for entering govt house.. so no be today!

Oshodin was the first Bini VC in an institution established since the 70s and they nearly killed him for it. Before he came majority of professors were of Ibo , esan and delta state extraction. There was no homegrown rule [sic] in employment or admissions, but he changed that. Throughout his tenure his DVCs were all esan.. he promoted them too but they wanted absolute power so they could award fictitious contracts like the old days.. Is that good enough?

KINGinVAHALA2:
I stopped replying monikers when it comes to state politics because what majority does is to sit at the comfort of their homes maybe in owerri and want to tell you and indigene or residence or both of Edo state the happenings in Edo State.
These are the kind of people that would tell you that oshiomole has been a failure as a governor when in reality no Gov in the whole south south since 2007 can compare with oshiomole in terms of achievement as govs even though Edo State is the least earning state in south south from FG.

so bro, give them the ignoring treatment, that's what they deserve.

I tire for them ooo

KINGinVAHALA2:
To your last statement, to those that knows the happenings in Edo inner Politics, they would tell you Ize-iyamu has the support of Party big men/women but on the field, majority masses would vote Edebiri over ize-iyamu.

As an apc man and a member of Oshiomole political family, I would prefer ize-iyamu on the field rather than edebiri. Ask an average Edo man what he thinks about ize-iyamu and he/she would tell you that he is known for being the man that helped lucky igbinedion to loot Edo State and with him also currently been investigated by efcc, pulling him down won't be as hard as people thinks.

But, only a Godwin obaseki fully backed by oshiomole can achieve this.
A God Obaseki as an apc candidate is a sure win in the 6 local govt in Edo north, owing to oshiomole popularity and acceptance there, Don't forget since Oshiomole became gov, he has never lost any election in the whole of Edo north, even the last election when majority edolites voted "our brother", Goodluck, apc still won Edo north in all elected positions.

Everything you have said is not far from the truth, except one.

Edebiri may seemingly have good nature but that is because people do not know him enough.

He may represent man in the middle style for groups who want nothing to do with heavyweights on both sides but that is what Oshiomhole represented in 2008.

Now, the difference btw ize iyamu and edebiri is enormous. Ize iyamu was largely responsible for oshiomole's political structure in 2008 and 2012. He is a grounded man and a strategist too, that is who edebiri is not.

There is a difference in paying people to strategise for you, and strategising for yourself. They can be bought over, you can't.

Ize iyamu also has the propensity to play dirty and murky water politics, which are all necessary. I doubt if edebiri knows how to assemble a strike team.

Ize iyamu is the only match for Oshiomhole's arrangements, because he was a soldier within. That explains why ize iyamu barely a year upon returning to PDP, is the only serious challenger.

Politics of Mr nice guy does not win elective positions. Nyesom Wike is an example.

Mopolchi:
Names are not enough to make such conclusion. He could be very knowledgeable than you despite your claim of coming from the said state. Just learn to accommodate the other. Just as you comment on other tribes' affairs, allow him comment and later give him a superior argument why his comments are unfounded.

I think I'm getting tired of quoting you and saying the same thing.

Kindly read his original comment and point out the knowledge of Edo politics he doled out.

None.

I know you have refused to let this go because you want to tell yourself that you are correct that I am a tribalist.

You're advising me to learn to accomodate others. I don't know if you have a problem with reading. If you have the time, read on and you'd see where I have engaged in reasonable discussion with people who are sharing knowledgeable opinions, and not displaying lack of awareness of Edo politics.

The same you trying so hard to paint me as a tribalist will be the first to curse him if he said that with respect to events in your own state.

hiroz:
Kenneth imasaugbon is an OK candidate,but he should never had jumped from PDP to APC that made him lose a lot of credibility with the people....

he was never going to get any slot as a pdp member

hiroz:
Kenneth imasaugbon is an OK candidate,but he should never had jumped from PDP to APC that made him lose a lot of credibility with the people....

I hope Kenneth Imasaugbon wins.

EdCure:
Oshodin is a no no. If you reside in Benin (or Edo), you'll realise how PDP used Oshodin, Uniben management and student's union to cause chaos and discredit Oshiomole in the events leading to the 2015 elections. Remember how PDP and oshodin turned the property dispute between Edo State Govt and Uniben into a personal, tribal, war between Oshiomole and the Bini people?

They were on TV insulting the governor, setting Comrade Buses and other people's cars ablaze just to will political points.

Worse still, it is on record that Osayuki Oshodin is a nepotistic tribal bigot. The people he employed and elevated during his headship of Uniben were exclusively Binis. Could be your reason for preferring him, though.

Hmmmm, I'm amazed! Only one who reside in Edo can post such an articulate epistle. Oya come and support your brother as Mr Nairaland, hope this isn't too much to ask from you? *wink*