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Sir you can't sue the US Embassy but you can sue the U.s Government. You want to take out proceedings in the US? By all means but do make sure you have especially deep pockets.

But I want to suggest that your letter and belligerent posture is an attempt to save what remains of your tattered reputation through bombast.

If you are serious though do waive your immunity and sue the hotel maid for defamation. We will take you seriously. Until then you are seriously and completely on your own.

oyetunder:
You see! Our own cheap way of defending ourselves. They know they don't have video evidence as demanded, but what a cheap way to prove their innocence. They are not saying they want to arrest you boys, but surely you guys won't be able to enter their country again. And they have made us all to confirm what we are already aware of. They have no reasons to lie against these 3 fellas. And nigerians are aware of the unlimited sexual adventures of most of our elected special politicians. You were sent over for something important, but the 'hyena' inside of you was busy looking for hens to devour.

my friend will you just shut the hell up. Why are you jumping to conclusions like a dump bigot throlling someone based on something u cant confirm. He has made a valid point. Let the US embassy give a more substantial evidence before prosecuting someone. At least they do that to an average american, criminals included. Why should their cases be different because they are nigerians?. We wont know who is right untill we see a concrete evidence to disprove this. Stop judging or i'll go and identify ur pix at the police station and say it was u that stole my laptop.. Rubbish

Nice one Mark Gbillah! I dont know if you are guilty and bluffing or you are innocent but I love your response but make sure you follow through...we all want to know!

OmoManU:
This guy had better help himself and be intelligent by allowing the news die a natural death before it turned to something even more brutal for him. Like we don't know what they r capable of??

really? Can u listen to urself smarty pants? So he should keep quiet and let his character be defamed when there is no solid evidence against him. No normal human being would keep quiet after that knowing u r a public figure and have a wife and family

With this statement, what US said about you Dishonable members of the house is true. Why must you ask for video evidence before you will admit,

kstix:
my friend will you just shut the hell up. Why are you jumping to conclusions like a dump bigot throlling someone based on something u cant confirm. He has made a valid point. Let the US embassy give a more substantial evidence before prosecuting someone. At least they do that to an average american, criminals included. Why should their cases be different because they are nigerians?. We wont know who is right untill we see a concrete evidence to disprove this. Stop judging or i'll go and identify ur pix at the police station and say it was u that stole my laptop.. Rubbish

From the earlier letter published by the Embassy, I think the US Government gave them the opportunity of laying the matter to rest by being remorseful. But it appeared they felt too big to apologize and must have tried using "bone face" for the US Embassy Officials......my thoughts.


Extract from the US Embassy letter:

The ambassador acknowledged that “While the majority of Nigerian visitors to the United States do behave appropriately, even a few Nigerians demonstrating poor judgement leads to a poor impression of the Nigerian people generally, though it is far from accurate.

Such incidents jeopardise the ability of future programming and make host institutions and organisations less likely to welcome similar visits in the future.” Entwistle stated that the affected lawmakers did not show remorse when the issue was brought to them.

"In addition, most of the members of this group reacted very negatively to my deputy when she brought this matter to their attention, further calling into question their judgement and commitment to the goals of the International Visitor Leadership Programme.

This leads us to question whether to include National Assembly members for other similar programmes in the future. “I request, in the strongest possible terms, you share this message with members of the National Assembly so they understand the seriousness of these issues, and the potential consequences of their actions, not only for themselves as individuals, but also for the future of such programmes designed to benefit Nigeria,” he said in the letter.

He should sue their ass out. Nonsense. In as much as nigerians can loose themselves when out of the country, I onions is on US officials to provide evidence beyond the word of an employee of the hotel

oyetunder:
You see! Our own cheap way of defending ourselves. They know they don't have video evidence as demanded, but what a cheap way to prove their innocence. They are not saying they want to arrest you boys, but surely you guys won't be able to enter their country again. And they have made us all to confirm what we are already aware of. They have no reasons to lie against these 3 fellas. And nigerians are aware of the unlimited sexual adventures of most of our elected special politicians. You were sent over for something important, but the 'hyena' inside of you was busy looking for hens to devour.

u are not patrotic, so u prefer to take side with the white man than ur fellow Nigerian

Nigerian courts CANNOT order a foreign embassy to issue anyone a visa

laurel03:
I smell lies from US because how 3 hons and grown up men go try rape 1 girl but I trust no one .... Make den show us CCTV stuff

you didn't understand the story well. One tried to harass a worker in his hotel room sexually while the other two solicited for prostitute with another.

let him kontinu

kstix:
really? Can u listen to urself smarty pants? So he should keep quiet and let his character be defamed when there is no solid evidence against him. No normal human being would keep quiet after that knowing u r a public figure and have a wife and family

cosade:
From the earlier letter published by the Embassy, I think the US Government gave them the opportunity of laying the matter to rest if an apology had been tendered by the trio. But it appeared they felt too big to apologize........my thoughts...


Extract from US Embassy letter:

The ambassador acknowledged that “While the majority of Nigerian visitors to the United States do behave appropriately, even a few Nigerians demonstrating poor judgement leads to a poor impression of the Nigerian people generally, though it is far from accurate.

Such incidents jeopardise the ability of future programming and make host institutions and organisations less likely to welcome similar visits in the future.” Entwistle stated that the affected lawmakers did not show remorse when the issue was brought to them.

"In addition, most of the members of this group reacted very negatively to my deputy when she brought this matter to their attention, further calling into question their judgement and commitment to the goals of the International Visitor Leadership Programme.

This leads us to question whether to include National Assembly members for other similar programmes in the future. “I request, in the strongest possible terms, you share this message with members of the National Assembly so they understand the seriousness of these issues, and the potential consequences of their actions, not only for themselves as individuals, but also for the future of such programmes designed to benefit Nigeria,” he said in the letter.

That excerpt from the US ambassador is at best stupidly laughable! They should apologise when they claim innocence? That is accepting guilt for what insist you are innocent of? The other accompanying statements regarding their attitude towards a mere deputy is insulting. These are federal legislators who are being demeaned. I don't blame US at all. High time our stop selling ourselves cheap to them

oyetunder:
You see! Our own cheap way of defending ourselves. They know they don't have video evidence as demanded, but what a cheap way to prove their innocence. They are not saying they want to arrest you boys, but surely you guys won't be able to enter their country again. And they have made us all to confirm what we are already aware of. They have no reasons to lie against these 3 fellas. And nigerians are aware of the unlimited sexual adventures of most of our elected special politicians. You were sent over for something important, but the 'hyena' inside of you was busy looking for hens to devour.

After reading a copy of the petition forwarded to the House of Representatives by the US about the alleged immoral conduct of three honourable members, I was shocked at the kind of negative reactions and outright condemnation by Nigerians----even when it hasn't been proven by the petitioner or the hotel management after a month.

Well, I won't defend or feign ignorance of some of the dishonourable dispositions of some of our supposedly honourable leaders, but I wouldn't want an immoral society like the US to blackmail/embarrass the Nigerian state without evidence------just because they want to be seen as a sane society that they are not.

Aside, my suspicion that the immoral and self-acclaimed saints (US) have problems with Nigeria from the day PMB reiterated GEJ's stand on the gay rights, this recent suspected blackmail (atleast until proven otherwise) only reminds me of how we were cajoled by the same WEST into believing that GADDAFI is not just a devilish dictator but one that must be killed.

I must say that no other African leader has served his/her people like our GADDAFI and that, I suspect, was why they deceived us into killing him. They are always swift in condemning anything about Africa and desperate in ensuring that nothing good is allowed to stand in Africa.

Believe me, if the recent Orlando shooting in US wherein over 50 persons were gunned down happened in Africa, you could have heard their president come out to regurgitate absurdities.

Just read through Gaddafi's policies and achievements.

1. There is no electricity bill in Libya, electricity is free for all its citizens.

2. There is no interest on loans, banks in Libya are state-owned and loans given to all its citizens at 0% interest by law.

3. Home considered a human right in Libya – Gaddafi vowed that his parents would not get a house until everyone in Libya had a
home. Gaddafi’s father has died while him, his wife and his mother are still living in a tent.

4. All newlyweds in Libya receive $60,000 Dinar (US$ 50,000 ) by the government to buy their first apartment so to help start up
the family.

5. Education and medical treatments are free in Libya. Before Gaddafi only 25% of Libyans are literate. Today the figure is 83%.

6. If Libyans want to take up farming career, they would receive farm land, a farming house, equipment, seeds and livestock to kick- start their farms – all for free.

7. If Libyans cannot find the education or medical facilities they need in Libya, the government funds them to go abroad for it – not only free but they get US $2, 300/mth accommodation and car allowance.

8. In Libyan, if a Libyan buys a car, the government subsidized 50% of the price.

9. The price of petrol in Libya is $0. 14 per liter.

10. Libya has no external debt and its reserves amount to $150 billion – now frozen globally.

11. If a Libyan is unable to get employment after graduation the state would pay the average salary of the profession as if he or she is employed until
employment is found.

12. A portion of Libyan oil sale is, credited directly to the bank accounts of all Libyan citizens.

13. A mother who gave birth to a child receive US $5 ,000

14. 40 loaves of bread in Libya costs $ 0.15

15. 25% of Libyans have a university degree

16. Gaddafi carried out the world’s largest irrigation project, known as the Great Man- Made River project, to make water readily available throughout the desert country.

If this is called "Dictatorship" I wonder what type of Leadership Democrats have

Dottore:
[size=15pt]This long thesis because of ordinary bleeping. Punaani too dey land people for gbege for Oyibo land whereas the thing dey beg for attention in Nigeria.
2 ways to stay out of trouble when abroad, become celibate and stay away from drugs. [/size]

you must be in IfeLaw, @Punaani

Orikinla:
He can sue the US Embassy for false allegations and defamation of character. His defence is strong and he will win the case.

I bet you he won't because of the probable wide implications,
His response was just to save face.

laurel03:
I smell lies from US because how 3 hons and grown up men go try rape 1 girl but I trust no one .... Make den show us CCTV stuff

I think the answer lies in the definition of "Sexual assault" and "rape".
Many of the acceptable practise over here may be interpreted as assault
over there.
But I am surprised that you think "honorables" can't be involved in rape
when you and I know that Nigerian politician can do anything because they
have the believe that they can get away with it.

nonjebose:
That excerpt from the US ambassador is at best stupidly laughable! They should apologise when they claim innocence? That is accepting guilt for what insist you are innocent of? The other accompanying statements regarding their attitude towards a mere deputy is insulting. These are federal legislators who are being demeaned. I don't blame US at all. High time our stop selling ourselves cheap to them

I pray they are truly innocent as you have implied, so that they can make their cool millions of dollars from character defamation.

However, it will be shocking for US Embassy to take this kind of drastic measure without its facts.

Niger man even if you catch him red handed or pants down he will still ask for video evidence

kenrish2:
u are not patrotic, so u prefer to take side with the white man than ur fellow Nigerian

It is on record that many of our senators are sexual predators,
while the assault charge may be extreme , but soliciting for sex
is their trademark.

djblue007:
you didn't understand the story well. One tried to harass a worker in his hotel room sexually while the other two solicited for prostitute with another.

Did they produce evidence to back this claims?

youngtroll:
Nigerians are already insulting these men when they don't know if they were setup or not....why not wait for events to play out first before the tongue lashing..

They have every right to ask for evidence and if no evidence from the us govt. Nigeria should not take the matter as a simple misunderstanding......

This is a very dumb defense, no one sets someone up to solicit for sex
or attempt to sexually assault a woman.

That was how the ignoble Unilorin lecturer was claiming setup even when he
admitted that he has many girls on his sleep roll.

The best way for these lawmakers to clear themselve is to sue the U.S government for
defamation of character, it is that simple.

[quote author=neocortex post=46668749]It is on record that many of our senators are sexual predators,
while the assault charge may be extreme , but soliciting for sex
is their trademark.[/quote This is exactly the stereotyping that I find unacceptable. Whatever they did or did not do should not be based on hearsay or incongruous generalisation of nigerians nay africans, especially federal lawmakers

neocortex:
This is a very dumb defense, no one sets you someone up to solicit for sex
or attempt to sexually assault a woman.

That was how the ignoble Unilorin lecturer was claiming setup even when he
admitted that he has many girls on his sleep roll.

The best way for these lawmakers to clear themselve is to sue the U.S government for
defamation of character, it is that simple.

Very correct. If they are innocent, they should not accept any diplomatic settlement or secrete apology.

banmee:
He has not been convicted. It is standard practice in the states to suspend a person before an investigation. If he was guilty, trust me, he would not have been allowed to leave the country.

Well, never say never,
because politics overrules everything.
There are many crimes which overlooked if committed
by "dignitary" but would lead an ordinary citizen to jail.
I am sure you are aware of such cases.

[quote author=nonjebose post=46668988][/quote]Enwinstle letter did not accuse "Africans" but some 3 senators with name.
There is no such thing as "federal lawmakers" , it is just a tag which has no bearing
on individual characters.

I maintain that the accused must sue the U.S government for defamation of character,
if they fail to do that, then it means they have something to hide.

nonjebose:
Did they produce evidence to back this claims?

This is contained in the US allegations.

djblue007:
This is contained in the US allegations.

Spurious allegation based on the words of the hotel employees.

house of rape

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neocortex:
Well, never say never,
because politics overrules everything.
There are many crimes which overlooked if committed
by "dignitary" but would lead an ordinary citizen to jail.
I am sure you are aware of such cases.

Not with a country like Nigeria. There's not too much they can lose from not dealing with us.

This na serious matter.
Good all the same let the Americans prove otherwise. But trust this na America oo no be Nigeria, den fit pull surprises oooo

All the same may be one of either since they were three on the trip. Your account seems clear considering he even travelled with his wife .

Goodluck