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None of you is talking about the amount used for purchasing JAMB and UTME forms.........

post ume is also corrupt but I Dont accept the scrapping tho

as if postutme cannot be runz ... pointless

Nice one op..I support u.

Exam bodies like like WAEC and Jamb have bin compromised recently..


as for NECO, I don't even know why employers and higher institutions recognize dad certificate sef?

NECO is sooo disgusting...Compromised and stained with so much irregularities rite from its inception..I hate NECO

mind u, I have 3 olevel certificates..and I made all subjects in all..

Waec internal

waec external...GCE( wrote it wen I was in ss2)
and

NECO...

in most cases, I use d first two, cos to me NECO is useless

Then scrap jamb. Half baked students are the products of half baked teachers. Even in higher institutions some lecturers are half baked. I had to subscribe to YouTube channels to really understand what ever they copied and pasted in their text books. A student cannot be writing two exams in order to gain admission into a university. That can mentally disorganize any family in a financial way. We now have computer based exam centers. Getting an education isn't just about books and grades - we're also learning how to participate fully in the life of this nation.

Op, it seems you're writing about something u know little about. Or are you a lecturer and you just realised you've lost a source of income? The fraud in post UTME is colossal and must be scrapped.

Remember the Rape case of Dr. Baruwa.

Such cases will become rampant when you give too much power to universities and other tertiary institutions.
Post UTME exams is a fraud.

osabuohein:
Hey you keep shut there. I swear I hate oversabi people. The FG that scrapped are dumb right?

You should have stated your point without insults.

i SUPPORTED U BROS

bendeco12:
op u makes no Sence. ... U r just typing trash...
how is postume reducing malpractice in this Nigeria we are??... some people that know the way or have connection may not even need to write the fucking exam and get admission.. Am talking with experience.. some will write postume and score low but will still upgrade their score even score higher than brainy ones.. example of schools that do upgrade their score are FUTO, UNIZIK etc.. Am a student of futo 200 level dept of MME. so what am trying to tell you is that jamb is tighter than postume.

nairalanders should take this post with a pinch of salt. I am a graduate of futo (agricultural engineering) and I can say there is little or no truth in what this poster said....and he happens to be in one of the 'toughest' departments in the engineering faculty...@poster, did you get your admission via result upgrading?

kyrios:
What is this one saying?
Back then you only write jamb and gbam you get admission but when jamb became questionable they introduced post jamb and that jamb is back on its feet post jamb should go na abi
In developed countries you only write SATs that's all anyone that doesn't tighten his or her belt is on his own like say them no dey bribe official for post jamb sef

bro , really that shud be the case ,, but with the nations population and corruption , it is wise to have 2 screenings , so that the really qualified student can gain admission ... When post utme was introduced , I cud remember how happy I was , cause I was so sure I wud get admitted into school .. Before then , admission was a battle between the rich and the poor ..

osabuohein:
Hey you keep shut there. I swear I hate oversabi people. The FG that scrapped are dumb right?

Just shut up.Does political position equate to cognitive reasoning? Must you always learn by 'imitation'?

kaylivin:
bro , really that shud be the case ,, but with the nations population and corruption , it is wise to have 2 screenings , so that the really qualified student can gain admission ... When post utme was introduced , I cud remember how happy I was , cause I was so sure I wud get admitted into school .. Before then , admission was a battle between the rich and the poor ..

I have a friend that failed both jamb and post jamb and still got admitted so no matter the amount of exams written money would still do the talking

Nice points ; today is My birthday .

kyrios:
I have a friend that failed both jamb and post jamb and still got admitted so no matter the amount of exams written money would still do the talking

but such cases r very few , if they weren't it wud hav been national news ,, we need to look at the bigger picture ,, the larger benefit ,, imagine what admission into OAU ,UNILAG ,UI , and other top universities will look like without post jamb .. Only the rich and influential will make the list .

Look here the malpractice are carried out mostly by the universities themselves and not even jamb. I remember years back when I got admission to study biochemistry in UNN, my cumulative score was 249 so couldn't get medicine which was my first choice. Another girl, a very close friend of mine then got medicine even though we had same total score. And no she wasn't from the educationally less privileged states. And yes she knew some high placed professors. Mind you we did post ume that year and under normal circumstances that score should not be enough to get medicine and surgery. So tell me another story please.

kaylivin:
but such cases r very few , if they weren't it wud hav been national news ,, we need to look at the bigger picture ,, the larger benefit ,, imagine what admission into OAU ,UNILAG ,UI , and other top universities will look like without post jamb .. Only the rich and influential will make the list .

I don't have a problem with whether they scrap it or not but I don't see the difference. The school can still manipulate the results or admission list if they want to. If jamb is able to get their act right and conduct exams that are leak proof why should post ume still be considered? These schools are just using this pume to generate funds that's all.

What we should all understand is that both JAMB & PUTME are highly expensive. As such, the scrapping of the latter may not be a good idea, but cutting down both registration fees can make everything alright.

matolysis:
Some many years back before post JAMB, securing admission into higher institutions, universities to be precise, was very difficult for the brainy owing to high level of admission malpractices, directly or indirectly by the school bodies. The advent of POST JAMB ( Now post UTME) put an end or perhaps a very big check on this negativity.

I, personally, happen to be one of the many that faced these challenges and also part of the lucky ones that reaped the good fruit of post UTME. Without much ado, I can categorically say that post UTME is one of the best quality assurance mechanism for most institutions.

Some beautiful quotes in line with this article:
"If universities will not become breeding grounds for ill-baked, sophomoric and dilettantish graduates, then, post UME test must remain to be part of our admission process criteria."....anonymous

"To avoid the abuse of university education in the country, JAMB and Post-JAMB should work together to compliment each other so that the optimal output will be achieved in our Universities. While Post-JAMB will continue to benefit from JAMB, the fear of passing Post-JAMB screening test will reduce the desire to bribe JAMB staff to cheat hence passing JAMB is no more the only criteria to gain admission into university in the country but a mere qualification to face Post-JAMB screening test which does not give room for cheating.''..... Hundu William Terseer

In highlights, here my five reasons why post UTME should not be scrapped:
1. It check-mates 'runs'....tell me you don't know the meaning of 'runs'
2. It invites in more transparency to institutions enrolment processes.
3. Students knowing that two screening processes await them, they tend to tighten their belts as regards preparation.
4. It creates a major resistance to students who exceedingly passed jamb via malpractices.
5. Various institutions can boast of good quality of students. This is true as post UTME has improved the academic standard of undergraduate students owing to their good academic performances.

More Cushion:
According to an educational research carried out by Hundu William Terseer,
" The foregoing discussion has shown that Post-JAMB is more effective than JAMB as selection test for university admission. However, lessons have to be learnt from the finding. The effectiveness of Post-JAMB may not be unconnected with the fact that the screening test is conducted for students who have already taken JAMB examinations. This implies that Post-JAMB on its own may not be able to achieve huge success unless JAMB comes in to trim down the large population opting for University Admission. JAMB can continue as a primary screening exercise for university admission while Post-JAMB will continue to be the final screening exercise.
TWO SYSTEMS OF ENROLLMENT
The retaining of the two systems of enrollment is vital and cost effective if education is to be taken as serious business in the country. This can be considered in two ways. First, JAMB plays the role of ‘filtering’ which reduces the population students that would have become an obstacle to the smooth conduct of Post-JAMB test, secondary, Students access information about University admission from JAMB, such information will be difficult to access is leave into the hand of individual universities.
The implication from the findings of this study is that, poor academic performance of undergraduate students is strongly related to the enrollment process through which they gain admission. The fact still remains that irrespective of poor infrastructure in our universities, if qualified students are admitted they will at least earn a class of degree higher than a third class and pass degree. This has been proved to be true from this research work. The federal government should therefore have a rethink on University Entrance Examinations if the desired manpower is to be achieved for economic development and nation building.
Although Post-JAMB screening exercise might not be the best option to solve JAMB problem in a democratic setting, it is however the most effective tool to rescue to educational system in the country. The problem is diverse; JAMB seems to be the cause of the dilemma it found itself. JAMB has for long taken its JAMB for granted. JAMB engages in collecting money from students who do not have minimum qualification for university education, only to allow them write an examination they are not qualified for, this often results to unprecedented number of student seating for the examination such that JAMB cannot effectively control, this has resulted to proliferation of JAMB centres that does not look like centres for conducting examination for university entrance.
Secondly the remunerations JAMB pays to her adhoc staff and the calibre of staff JAMB recruits these days is overwhelming. Even to this present day, JAMB pay as low as N2000.00 for conduct of an examination that candidates are willing to pay over 10,000 for ‘assistance’. Perhaps, what interest JAMB adhoc staff is not the JAMB money but money they will collect from candidates for ‘assistance’?
The credibility of Post-JAMB is however commendable. In the first place, the calibre of staff conducting the Post-JAMB screening are usually made of senior staff that cannot easily be bought over for a peanut and there is less contact between the candidate and those conducting the examination. Again must of the Universities including Federal University of Technology, Yola, have adapted the use of on-line test where students interact with computer to approach question This also reduces the involvement of human error in the screening test.
To avoid the abuse of university education in the country, JAMB and Post-JAMB should work together to complimentary each other so that the optimal output will be achieved in our Universities. While Post-JAMB will continue to benefit from JAMB, the fear of passing Post-JAMB screening test will reduce the desire to bribe JAMB staff to cheat hence passing JAMB is no more the only criteria to gain admission into university in the country but a mere qualification to face Post-JAMB screening test which does not give room for cheating.''

oga OP what is runs

looseweight:
In summary,
1. You can acquire jamb result but not post utme
2. Post utme separates the dull from brainy.....

IAMLOOSEWEIGHT

Are u really sure post utme seperates d dull from d brainy??
why not increase d cut-off mark to 200??
One thing is certain... There's more malpractice in post utme than jamb.

sarutobie:
nairalanders should take this post with a pinch of salt. I am a graduate of futo (agricultural engineering) and I can say there is little or no truth in what this poster said....and he happens to be in one of the 'toughest' departments in the engineering faculty...@poster, did you get your admission via result upgrading?

Op, this is very true upgrading is done in FUTO am a student too there

kyrios:
What is this one saying?
Back then you only write jamb and gbam you get admission but when jamb became questionable they introduced post jamb and that jamb is back on its feet post jamb should go na abi
In developed countries you only write SATs that's all anyone that doesn't tighten his or her belt is on his own like say them no dey bribe official for post jamb sef

hear yourself...se na you brought jamb back on its feet??I'm sure neither did you write this year's jamb nor do you know about it....I'm sure their has never been that kinda error since jamb's inception....post utme is needed this year like ever

Drdonzeez:
Just shut up.Does political position equate to cognitive reasoning? Must you always learn by 'imitation'?

you shut up as well. What do you know? So you like it when year in year out students are denied admission and are not able to get admission due to some stupid utme? Seriously for once think with your head and not your anus.

druxy:
hear yourself...se na you brought jamb back on its feet??I'm sure neither did you write this year's jamb nor do you know about it....I'm sure their has never been that kinda error since jamb's inception....post utme is needed this year like ever

oga rephrase your statement what year did universities start conducting post utme?

joe4real12:
Op, it seems you're writing about something u know little about. Or are you a lecturer and you just realised you've lost a source of income? The fraud in post UTME is colossal and must be scrapped.

Remember the Rape case of Dr. Baruwa.

Such cases will become rampant when you give too much power to universities and other tertiary institutions.
Post UTME exams is a fraud.

and jamb is honest abi

eph12:
I don't have a problem with whether they scrap it or not but I don't see the difference. The school can still manipulate the results or admission list if they want to. If jamb is able to get their act right and conduct exams that are leak proof why should post ume still be considered? These schools are just using this pume to generate funds that's all.

like you said...then postume should still hold till jamb is credible...

NL can be unfair, click on my profile nd see my right up on this same issue, explicit, bt it's nt on fp.

These days student no dy do examination runs again......na university lecturers dy do am....person wey no write post utme.....na 1st batch hin name go follow come out....persn wey score 70 na last batch ......lobish pple

osabuohein:
you shut up as well. What do you know? So you like it when year in year out students are denied admission and are not able to get admission due to some stupid utme? Seriously for once think with your head and not your anus.

I won't stoop so low to trade words with you.If you were born in the epoch when jamb independently gives admission,you wouldn't spew hogwash..My uncle got medicine the year post ume was introduced after previous failed attempts with his lowest jamb score ever,he was a victim of jamb's irregularities. Don't worry when your ass got demoted to a college of Education with 250,your mentally will change.

You people are here arguing when post umte is still on. Uniuyo has just published theirs online(#2000) in the university website. It is easier said than done bros eee. These guys in higher institutions are already used to the thing so depriving them this is a no go area. I see it that it will not stop unless the minister takes an action. Full stop..

Stop with the "Scrapping or no scrapping" you gonna do it anyways

kyrios:
What is this one saying?
Back then you only write jamb and gbam you get admission but when jamb became questionable they introduced post jamb and that jamb is back on its feet post jamb should go na abi
In developed countries you only write SATs that's all anyone that doesn't tighten his or her belt is on his own like say them no dey bribe official for post jamb sef

Correct.