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| Re: Ben Bruce, Dangote, AMCON and the Buhari Factor by BuddhaPalm(m): 8:27pm On Jun 24, 2016 |
This is enlightening. Thanks. |
| Re: Ben Bruce, Dangote, AMCON and the Buhari Factor by evy1(m): 8:28pm On Jun 24, 2016 |
knightsTempler:Guy Na wa for you o,is Ben Bruce the only employer of labor in this country? We should stop being sentimental for once and always call a spade a spade,why should goverment caress him? He has defaulted and he is not complaining. |
| Re: Ben Bruce, Dangote, AMCON and the Buhari Factor by Blackfire(m): 8:37pm On Jun 24, 2016 |
Cherishing:nne tawa asusu igbo. I like that. |
| Re: Ben Bruce, Dangote, AMCON and the Buhari Factor by SonofDevil: 8:39pm On Jun 24, 2016 |
K |
| Re: Ben Bruce, Dangote, AMCON and the Buhari Factor by OLADD: 8:48pm On Jun 24, 2016 |
obailala:Ideally, this should be seen as a debtor-creditor tussle, but with the way we play our politics, political maneuvers can't be completely ruled in this case Sitting govts in Nigeria from time immemorial had used anything to nail perceived enemies. Ben Bruce has been a torn in the flesh of the president. |
| Re: Ben Bruce, Dangote, AMCON and the Buhari Factor by stefan388: 8:53pm On Jun 24, 2016 |
mrvitalis:Which political party does Uba belong to? Is he an apc member? Buhari is getting what he prayed for. He is very tribal. |
| Re: Ben Bruce, Dangote, AMCON and the Buhari Factor by Cherishing(f): 8:54pm On Jun 24, 2016 |
| Re: Ben Bruce, Dangote, AMCON and the Buhari Factor by Blackfire(m): 9:01pm On Jun 24, 2016 |
Cherishing:oyen ije. Afam wu blackfire, abum oyen yoruba. |
| Re: Ben Bruce, Dangote, AMCON and the Buhari Factor by Kingspin(m): 9:08pm On Jun 24, 2016 |
obailala:You have a political point there. |
| Re: Ben Bruce, Dangote, AMCON and the Buhari Factor by alt3r3g0: 9:28pm On Jun 24, 2016 |
bluaero:http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/196591-dasukigate-buharis-associate-jafaru-isa-returns-n100million-to-efcc.html Read and be enlightened. |
| Re: Ben Bruce, Dangote, AMCON and the Buhari Factor by KevinDein: 9:31pm On Jun 24, 2016 |
@op, I think you are just wasting your time (or maybe not, someone out there might just learn a thing or two from your write up, so, yeah, keep it up) But I gotta say, nairaland has become a congregation of extremely unintelligent peeps, it is laughable. When you read some posts on this forum, you begin to wonder what exactly are our youths being thought in schools. Our education system needs a complete overhaul, and fast. |
| Re: Ben Bruce, Dangote, AMCON and the Buhari Factor by InvertedHammer: 9:34pm On Jun 24, 2016 |
/ Loans are not the problem. The problem is not servicing the loans and carrying on like everything is normal. Meanwhile, that should be between the banks and their customers. I will like to believe that those are secured loans, collateralized debt obligations. \ |
| Re: Ben Bruce, Dangote, AMCON and the Buhari Factor by Harwoyeez(m): 9:47pm On Jun 24, 2016 |
bitingcool:that's why I don't always comment on most threads here because of this reason |
| Re: Ben Bruce, Dangote, AMCON and the Buhari Factor by Fawklicant: 9:50pm On Jun 24, 2016 |
knightsTempler:This thread or the issue at hand is not about BMB's achievements, but about loans and AMCON intervention. He has achieved a lot with his siblings and I admire him for that. But defaulting on loan payments/servicing is never in good taste. Let AMCON do what needs to be done to recover their monies within the tenets of the law. However, I opened the thread with so much enthusiasm with a view to learning more about the situation only to find a hogwash piece in which the poster couldnt even wait till the second or third paragraph to spew his bias. The piece was written to spite a certain people whom the op sees as unreasonable because they hold divergent views on issues. I wouldnt call this intervention a witch hunt. Nooooooo! Far from it. It is a normal AMCON procedure which has happened many times before even with much larger corporate entities, however if statements credited to AMCON lawyer today are anything to go by, I'd say there's some political undertones to it. He made some very unprofessional comments about the situation. Very unsavoury. On the other hand there is no smoke without fire or so the saying goes. I think p[eople have earned the right to be suspicious of anything the present govt does as it is usually cloaked in lies and deceit with little room for fairness. Its anti--corruption war is skewed to say the least and it has shown that it would not tolerate opposition whereas it is through opposition that it got to ppwer in the first place. Anyways, that is a topic for further discussion. If I was going to write an article about AMCON and silverbird etc like the op did, I'd do a detailed writeup with a view to educating people and gaining converts onto the side of knowledge and reason bearing in mind that some people form opinions based on limited knowledge and information. Beginning such a thread with biased sentiments has already put a deathknell to whatever points he hoped to convey. |
| Re: Ben Bruce, Dangote, AMCON and the Buhari Factor by Teespice(f): 10:06pm On Jun 24, 2016 |
in fact OP true words have never been spoken by you. this morning while listening to radio, I felt like slapping the comrade that was saying that the take over by AMCON was politically motivated and the callers who had the same thing to say. ignorance of how certain things work is truly a disease. even with this your article, them go say Na witchunt. |
| Re: Ben Bruce, Dangote, AMCON and the Buhari Factor by Teespice(f): 10:09pm On Jun 24, 2016 |
KevinDein:kai. no true words have ever been spoken. I read posts and I wonder if people are dumb or just being mischievous. |
| Re: Ben Bruce, Dangote, AMCON and the Buhari Factor by coolscott(m): 10:14pm On Jun 24, 2016 |
obailala:[size=13pt]If folks were quick to consider the AMCON-Bruce saga a deliberate move by the administration against key voices outside its party, it is because a precedent for doing this has (much as we may not like or admit it) already been set.[/size] |
| Re: Ben Bruce, Dangote, AMCON and the Buhari Factor by deenee: 10:57pm On Jun 24, 2016 |
For record, dangote is not owing AMCON and Ben Bruce has refused to service the AMCON loan for three years hence the reason why his business is slated to be put under receivership. For those ranting it people like Ben Bruce that contributed to the 2008-2010 banking sector crisis that led to loss of jobs. Same Ben spent 150m naira on his last birthday. Jimoh Ibrahim case is story for another day. God bless Nigeria |
| Re: Ben Bruce, Dangote, AMCON and the Buhari Factor by deenee: 11:00pm On Jun 24, 2016 |
InvertedHammer:They are secured. The security (cinemas and other real estate portfolio) is what AMCON is planning to put under receivership |
| Re: Ben Bruce, Dangote, AMCON and the Buhari Factor by obailala(op): 11:52pm On Jun 24, 2016 |
Fawklicant:You are absolutely right about the bolded above, I opened this thread purely to lament and expose the folly of several people who (I believe) have been making embarrassing comments over this silverbird issue since yesterday. I impulsively opened this thread in response to another thread which I bumped into in the morning (see below) https://www.nairaland.com/3184912/dangota-also-owing-amcon-209 |
| Re: Ben Bruce, Dangote, AMCON and the Buhari Factor by Fawklicant: 12:09am On Jun 25, 2016 |
obailala:So you admit to opening a 'we vs. them' thread. Goodluck with that, but mind you, you cannot win that arguement. You and like mimded fellows will only congregate and pontificate on your version of the truth. |
| Re: Ben Bruce, Dangote, AMCON and the Buhari Factor by TyrantInAsoRock: 12:12am On Jun 25, 2016 |
NOETHNICITY:LOL Coming from a set of zombies That takes everything lair Mohammed utters as the gospel truth |
| Re: Ben Bruce, Dangote, AMCON and the Buhari Factor by Fawklicant: 12:36am On Jun 25, 2016 |
coolscott:Exactly my point. If this govt was sincere about the fight against corruption, most people would applaud them regardless of affiliations. But unfortunately that is not the case. PMB is more of a divisive factor in Nigeria than a unifying one. The gulf is enlarging and no hope of cementing it in sight. Like I said earlier after the polls, PMB should have towed the path of reconciliation after heating up the polity unneccesarily. He should have emulated Mandela of blessed memory who didnt go about jailing Piether Botha and co for his imprisonment and untold hardship on black south Africans. That would have been a costly mistake. Instead his actions endeared him to all eventually and helped put SA's economy on a pedestal. PMB has chosen the path of ignominy and avoidable distraction and it is gonna be difficult for him to retrace his steps. He is incapable of flexibility and that is not how to be a democrat. This is the 21st century and civillian rule, not 1984 military dictatorship. |
| Re: Ben Bruce, Dangote, AMCON and the Buhari Factor by Nobody: 12:56am On Jun 25, 2016 |
bitingcool:its a forum......... it cant be onesided...diversity is needed.... Hence the attraction........ i luv it.......... |
| Re: Ben Bruce, Dangote, AMCON and the Buhari Factor by Arabiandude: 1:58am On Jun 25, 2016 |
kenonze:Hi sweet, don't worry, I know you won't remember me with this moniker. Anyways I'm the same dude that had a chat with you and asked you to vote my contestant, REFINER, as miss Nairaland. Voting actually started on Monday and today (Saturday) is the grand finale and so lucky for us, refiner is one of the finalist. I noticed you havent been voting though even though I have always mentioned your moniker each voting day. Please I would need your vote today for its gonna go along way since today is the final. www.nairaland.com/3186985/miss-nairaland-contest-2016-grand This is the voting link, and to vote all you need to do is to click on the link and type I VOTE REFINER cc NLJega That's all and please note that voting would commence by 10am and ends 6pm, any vote on the thread before 10am and after 6pm would be invalid. Good morning Dearie! cc Donfamous , Dealordea , please I will also appreciate you guys votes for REFINER. Good morning guys! |
| Re: Ben Bruce, Dangote, AMCON and the Buhari Factor by philips70(m): 4:49am On Jun 25, 2016 |
knightsTempler:Am sorry but you are senseless. The N11b was owed when this government came to power? Did he stop servicing his loans when Buhari came to power? The day some of you will have just a drop of commonsense this world must come to an end. |
| Re: Ben Bruce, Dangote, AMCON and the Buhari Factor by charlesucheh(m): 6:20am On Jun 25, 2016 |
What's happening? Where are all those wailing elements So they stayed away from this thread abi When facts are spilled, prejudicial minds fear it's slippery surface!!! |
| Re: Ben Bruce, Dangote, AMCON and the Buhari Factor by MrSly(m): 8:07am On Jun 25, 2016 |
obailala:Story for the gods. |
| Re: Ben Bruce, Dangote, AMCON and the Buhari Factor by Lnxxxxx(m): 8:09am On Jun 25, 2016 |
bluaero:Uncle, you need to appreciate the op effort, at least he did some research. As for your first point, if there are legal problems with freezing a governors account then he should take efcc to the court. This is Fayose we are still talking about wouldn't he love the opportunity to take the government to the court if he was on his right? As for your last point, the media only reports the lives of important people whose names can sell their papers. I am in Abuja and I have friends that have been questions for an issue or the other over the last couple of months. Infact if you had an issue with efcc would anybody other than your family know? Would you call it Wizard-hunt? So let's try to do some research before we support or come out to respond or post anything. That way no knew can dispute you and in the process you may learn something new. We shouldn't just take peoples word for it. |
| Re: Ben Bruce, Dangote, AMCON and the Buhari Factor by 1kinggy(m): 8:56am On Jun 25, 2016 |
[quote author=MasterofNL post=46886331][/quote]Who do you like this? |
| Re: Ben Bruce, Dangote, AMCON and the Buhari Factor by bluaero(m): 9:48am On Jun 25, 2016 |
Lnxxxxx:I agree with your points. But the picture the partisan OP is trying to portray is that Buhari is on a "corruption crusade". If you also think the same way and don't think that it is merely a "vengeance" mission and an "opposition intimidating" vendetta, then I would like to question your thinking capability. Read my post again without sentiment and partisanship and try to get the message. Our country apart from being in a horrible economic nightmare is also more divided than ever along ethnic and religious lines. Buhari is destroying us with hate and disunity. We have never hated each other this much in the history of Nigeria. Note: I neither support the APC or PDP as these guys are the same and can switch sides at any instant just to get access to money and power. You should know this. I am only a law abiding and hardworking Nigerian who is interested in a peaceful and enabling economy to make a living and raise my offspring. |
| Re: Ben Bruce, Dangote, AMCON and the Buhari Factor by jude90(m): 11:09am On Jun 25, 2016 |
Hhhmmmmmm so people still defend Buhari? |
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