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Re: Correction: Clarifying The Content Of The New JAMB Modalities For Admission by Mickael2(m): 8:00am On Jul 05, 2016
STPEACE10:
can't you see that the guy copied it from premium reporter? he just pasted exactly what they wrote on their page. he even include the prayer aspect of it that was also pasted there. lolzz

are you crazy or you lack comprehension skills? Ofcourse i copied what they wrote to explain what they said and how it is related to what the posted said, can't you understand a simple written statement?!
Re: Correction: Clarifying The Content Of The New JAMB Modalities For Admission by Elxandre(m): 8:02am On Jul 05, 2016
DonMekino:
but come to think of it?? why all these models stuffs?? making d process look complex...why not try jamb method before post ume was invented...let's not kid ourselves abt o'level result in Nigeria... it is one of d greatest malpractice exam u can see....all these are making education in Nigeria look like a joke. Govt can't just let d sch be.
according to the document i read, jamb score alone would be used.
The Olevel would just be verified during screening to check if you have your Olevel credits complete.
Re: Correction: Clarifying The Content Of The New JAMB Modalities For Admission by Mickael2(m): 8:02am On Jul 05, 2016
Silvofitz:
You mixed it up altogether. You may need to read the document again. Both O' Level grades and Jamb scores would be weighted.


Thank you. He did not even read the article himself. He just read the part he wants to hear!
Re: Correction: Clarifying The Content Of The New JAMB Modalities For Admission by Mickael2(m): 8:07am On Jul 05, 2016
Elxandre:

according to the document i read, jamb score alone would be used.
The Olevel would just be verified during screening to check if you have your Olevel credits complete.

You do understand that screening implies screening in and screening out? So how will some candidates be screened out? See they identified a clear distinction between screening and verification. Now go to the last point, it was said that schools can source from other courses to complete some courses which are short-changed, so that means Jamb will send extra students to some courses and will send less students than required to some courses too. How will they now check who will be admitted? Based on O'level result, if your grades are low then you will be taken to a different course that was short-changed! This is just a matter of being able to connect point 1,point 3 and the last point in the original Jamb article
Re: Correction: Clarifying The Content Of The New JAMB Modalities For Admission by Elxandre(m): 8:07am On Jul 05, 2016
Mickael2:


are you crazy or you lack comprehension skills? Ofcourse i copied what they wrote to explain what they said and how it is related to what the posted said, can't you understand a simple written statement?!
You are misunderstanding something here.
That article you quoted is not the original piece from Jamb.

Get the original document from jamb.org.ng
Re: Correction: Clarifying The Content Of The New JAMB Modalities For Admission by Mickael2(m): 8:10am On Jul 05, 2016
Elxandre:

You are misunderstanding something here.
That article you quoted is not the original piece from Jamb.

Get the original document from jamb.org.ng


OKAY!!! I now understand your problem. You are angry because people are now saying that that article is the main one from Jamb? Ofcourse it isn't. The person who wrote it for premium reporters made it clear that he/she was just trying to explain what was written in the Jamb article and the Jamb model, but people and other sites started to copy and paste it and eventually the real meaning was lost. You can go to their page and check it well, they first pasted the real article then explained it, sorry if I used harsh words but you should have checked the site before lambasting them
Re: Correction: Clarifying The Content Of The New JAMB Modalities For Admission by Elxandre(m): 8:14am On Jul 05, 2016
Mickael2:


You do understand that screening implies screening in and screening out? So how will some candidates be screened out? See they identified a clear distinction between screening and verification. Now go to the last point, it was said that schools can source from other courses to complete some courses which are short-changed, so that means Jamb will send extra students to some courses and will send less students than required to some courses too. How will they now check who will be admitted? Based on O'level result, if your grades are low then you will be taken to a different course that was short-changed! This is just a matter of being able to connect point 1,point 3 and the last point in the original Jamb article
which page in the document did JAMB say Olevel would be weighted?
Simply ask how admission used to be from older folks before the advent of PUTME.

i don't have the luxury of durable battery life for my phone to explain things better.
Re: Correction: Clarifying The Content Of The New JAMB Modalities For Admission by Elxandre(m): 8:21am On Jul 05, 2016
Mickael2:



OKAY!!! I now understand your problem. You are angry because people are now saying that that article is the main one from Jamb? Ofcourse it isn't. The person who wrote it for premium reporters made it clear that he/she was just trying to explain what was written in the Jamb article and the Jamb model, but people and other sites started to copy and paste it and eventually the real meaning was lost. You can go to their page and check it well, they first pasted the real article then explained it, sorry if I used harsh words but you should have checked the site before lambasting them
Nah bro.
That article is crap!

the screening mentioned in the document is nust like the already existent screening you have in schools already after admission

What jamb awards since time immemorial is provinsional admission, same with what they will be awarding this year.
The screening will be same with what is already existent in schools after one is granted admission.

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Re: Correction: Clarifying The Content Of The New JAMB Modalities For Admission by Mickael2(m): 8:25am On Jul 05, 2016
Elxandre:

Nah bro.
That article is crap!

the screening mentioned in the document is nust like the already existent screening you have in schools already after admission

What jamb awards since time immemorial is provinsional admission, same with what they will be awarding this year.
The screening will be same with what is already existent in schools after one is granted admission.


I do not know how I am going to explain it to you again. So let me drop one question, how are schools going to decide which candidates they will use and fill up the lower courses?
Re: Correction: Clarifying The Content Of The New JAMB Modalities For Admission by Elxandre(m): 8:29am On Jul 05, 2016
Mickael2:


I do not know how I am going to explain it to you again. So let me drop one question, how are schools going to decide which candidates they will use and fill up the lower courses?
How did they fill it up before the advent of PUTME?

there lies your answer.

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Re: Correction: Clarifying The Content Of The New JAMB Modalities For Admission by Mickael2(m): 8:34am On Jul 05, 2016
Elxandre:

How did they fill it up before the advent of PUTME?

there lies your answer.

Young man, you are confused. I am a graduate by the way, before the advent of PUTME most of these lower courses were not present and schools did not have a defined capacity, so there was no need for anyone to fill up any course. That was why they made it clear that universities can fill up now. I ask again, how will they now decide who they will fill it up with?
Re: Correction: Clarifying The Content Of The New JAMB Modalities For Admission by awesomeDiva(f): 8:42am On Jul 05, 2016
they said verification and not weighing I.e for those with fake result, those that have incomplete result. they might even choose to verify the result by asking student to provide scratch card

Re: Correction: Clarifying The Content Of The New JAMB Modalities For Admission by Oyejay(m): 8:45am On Jul 05, 2016
Elxandre:

How did they fill it up before the advent of PUTME?

there lies your answer.
What abt those that filled awaiting result on jamb website while registering, do u think they will be given adm by jamb b4 they go and tender their o'level to their skul of choice?
Re: Correction: Clarifying The Content Of The New JAMB Modalities For Admission by Mickael2(m): 8:57am On Jul 05, 2016
awesomeDiva:
they said verification and not weighing I.e for those with fake result, those that have incomplete result. they might even choose to verify the result by asking student to provide scratch card

You also skipping a major point. The place where they said something about the verification is in point 3, they did say that the screening will be after the provisional admission, does it not stand to reason that the screening will also be based on the O'level?
Re: Correction: Clarifying The Content Of The New JAMB Modalities For Admission by Mickael2(m): 8:57am On Jul 05, 2016
Oyejay:

What abt those that filled awaiting result on jamb website while registering, do u think they will be given adm by jamb b4 they go and tender their o'level to their skul of choice?

Yes ofcourse, as long as you see your result before november you are safe
Re: Correction: Clarifying The Content Of The New JAMB Modalities For Admission by Genius101(m): 9:03am On Jul 05, 2016
Mickael2:



I doubt if you read what I said at all! I am just comparing what they said with what you said!

Go and check the page, the first of all posted the news, then they explained the news. They didn't say that what they explained there is exactly how it was written in the Jamb site! You didn't even bother to read their article before lambasting them! That is not true journalism.

So let me ask you a simple question. It will be based on O'level won't it? Now Jamb gave two examples there,one was based on admission without O'level and one was based on admission with O'level,they clearly pointed out their remarks that the screening was done before the provisional admission hence giving undue advantage to students with good grades, now after their long scenario investigation, they now said that the screening will be done after they must have been grnated a provisional admission(that was the first point in the real article) and that it will be based on checking the candidates O'level results. Now UI too does not write putme if I am correct, but they didn't use the UI model for emphasis, they used the IBB model,so does that not mean that the IBB model is the model without PUTME that they were considering in the first place? With that in mind, does that not mean that it is the method that schools will adopt?

So from your insane question, you are asking me where Jamb explained that the universities can still conduct a screening? Didn't you see the first point they made in their proposed model?

In their proposed model, did they blatantly explain how the screening will be done? What they said in point 3 is just a matter of verification hence it is easy to see that the verification mentioned is not thesame as the screening they pointed out in their first point(i am now talking about the real Jamb article), so what that means is that the proposed screening mode was not clarified by Jamb! Then since Jamb made it clear that the screening will be on checking of O'level result then isn't it safe to infer that they will adopt the model that they used in explaining the 'admission without putme' style?

They corrected just two stuffs in that model without putme, the fact that it was done before Jamb grants a provisional admission and the fact that it puts low scoring candidates at a disadvantage. Now in their two corrections they cleared that the screening will now be done after the provisional admission and there won't be a written exam, if there is no written exam, what then will be used? Or you know something that nobody else does?! I maintain that you did not even read the article from premium times before posting this nonsensical update that you just did,PATHETIC!
the IBB and tafewa balewa models were faulted by jamb not because they were conducted before provisional admission.from the summary of model 1(tafawa balewa)screening was done for only candidates recommended to jamb and given provisional admission so the screening was not done before provisional admission..but jamb did not fault this part.2nd summary was about life span of o'level results which jamb remarked on and faulted. now in summary of model 2 (ibb model)they screened candidates before provisional admission and jamb faulted it.they also weighted o level grades and jamb results which jamb faulted that it puts some candidates with low grades in o level at a disadvantage hence will not be used..hence after provisional admission,candidates will be screened by checking their o level results to make sure they have the right subjects combination and must have met with the course requirements and no weighting of results should be done as it would put some at a disadvantage.
Re: Correction: Clarifying The Content Of The New JAMB Modalities For Admission by awesomeDiva(f): 9:06am On Jul 05, 2016
Mickael2:


You also skipping a major point. The place where they said something about the verification is in point 3, they did say that the screening will be after the provisional admission, does it not stand to reason that the screening will also be based on the O'level?

it will be absolutely based on o'level.. but note that jamb made a remark/comment concerning using point system, that it put students with low grades at disadvantage (meaning they didn't approve such system)
Re: Correction: Clarifying The Content Of The New JAMB Modalities For Admission by Mickael2(m): 9:10am On Jul 05, 2016
awesomeDiva:


it will be absolutely based on o'level.. but note that jamb made a remark/comment concerning using point system, that it put students with low grades at disadvantage (meaning they didn't approve such system)

well meaning they modified it. Now check this, since Jamb wil be the ones giving the admission, they will give the highest scorers, that means that everyone will have relatively thesame score or in thesame region, that has nulified the adverse effect don't you think?
Re: Correction: Clarifying The Content Of The New JAMB Modalities For Admission by Genius101(m): 9:13am On Jul 05, 2016
it means that people with credit passes in their o level results and people with As but ve been offered provisional admission would be on a common footing as no points will be awarded to grades
Re: Correction: Clarifying The Content Of The New JAMB Modalities For Admission by Mickael2(m): 9:15am On Jul 05, 2016
Genius101:
the IBB and tafewa balewa models were faulted by jamb not because they were conducted before provisional admission.from the summary of model 1(tafawa balewa)screening was done for only candidates recommended to jamb and given provisional admission so the screening was not done before provisional admission..but jamb did not fault this part.2nd summary was about life span of o'level results which jamb remarked on and faulted. now in summary of model 2 (ibb model)they screened candidates before provisional admission and jamb faulted it.they also weighted o level grades and jamb results which jamb faulted that it puts some candidates with low grades in o level at a disadvantage hence will not be used..hence after provisional admission,candidates will be screened by checking their o level results to make sure they have the right subjects combination and must have met with the course requirements and no weighting of results should be done as it would put some at a disadvantage.

this is your own opinion. Now talking about the IBB style, they corrected two stuffs, the fact that it was done before the provisional admission and the fact that since it was done before the provisional admission,it contained a wide range of scores. Now if it is to be done after the Provisional admission, the Jamb scores will all be relatively thesame or the range will be low, so that has corrected the two issues noted there, and since there won't be any exam then it means that it can be used.
Re: Correction: Clarifying The Content Of The New JAMB Modalities For Admission by FinestPINACLE(f): 9:16am On Jul 05, 2016
Bornita:
mah just wait till things get settled and schools start following up.
Leave schl Learn skills...
Re: Correction: Clarifying The Content Of The New JAMB Modalities For Admission by awesomeDiva(f): 9:16am On Jul 05, 2016
Mickael2:


well meaning they modified it. Now check this, since Jamb wil be the ones giving the admission, they will give the highest scorers, that means that everyone will have relatively thesame score or in thesame region, that has nulified the adverse effect don't you think?


they give based on department...
Re: Correction: Clarifying The Content Of The New JAMB Modalities For Admission by Mickael2(m): 9:16am On Jul 05, 2016
Genius101:
it means that people with credit passes in their o level results and people with As but ve been offered provisional admission would be on a common footing as no points will be awarded to grades

so how will they decide which candidates they will use to fill the other courses that may be short-changed?
Re: Correction: Clarifying The Content Of The New JAMB Modalities For Admission by Mickael2(m): 9:18am On Jul 05, 2016
awesomeDiva:



they give based on department...

Yes! Ofcourse i meant based on departments, you will be fighting for admission with other persons in your department so also, Jamb will admit the highest scorers in each department which still supports what I said
Re: Correction: Clarifying The Content Of The New JAMB Modalities For Admission by Genius101(m): 9:29am On Jul 05, 2016
Mickael2:


so how will they decide which candidates they will use to fill the other courses that may be short-changed?
we all know that credit pass is the minimum requirements for admission into any course in tertiary institutions..no one will tell you that you must have an A in biology before you can study medicine..perhaps people with deficiency in their o level or incomplete results or wrong subjects combo would be used to fill courses that are short changed
Re: Correction: Clarifying The Content Of The New JAMB Modalities For Admission by Rilwon: 9:31am On Jul 05, 2016
This guy sha, why are you this stiffnecked? undecided
You didn't bother to answer my questions, you just barge in repeating your previous balderdash like someone that is high of something.
I tire for you o sad

Mickael2:



I doubt if you read what I said at all! I am just comparing what they said with what you said!

I already said it that the article is not credible enough, why don't you do yourself some help by downloading the models and read it for yourself?

Go and check the page, the first of all posted the news, then they explained the news. They didn't say that what they explained there is exactly how it was written in the Jamb site! You didn't even bother to read their article before lambasting them! That is not true journalism.

I have read their mumbo jumbo news since yesterday morning, did you bother to read that is really on Jamb site?

So let me ask you a simple question. It will be based on O'level won't it?

Yes it will be based on o level for school screening but it won't be as done by Ibrahim badamosi' university because Jamb concluded that it puts students at disadvantage.

First Jamb will use its.score to provide provisional admission and then, schools will screen students using o level and Jamb score but it wouldn't be that way of Ibrahim university where points are graded. If Jamon hadn't faulted it, then I would've agreed with you, but because you are not reading from the original source, you don't know but you are willfully displaying your ignorance.

Now Jamb gave two examples there,one was based on admission without O'level and one was based on admission with O'level,they clearly pointed out their remarks that the screening was done before the provisional admission hence giving undue advantage to students with good grades,


The bolder was the first fault they saw in the Ibrahim university. You don't need to mix it up with the second fault. The second fault is very different and clearly spelt out. Why are you this dishonest with yourself?
Someone has pasted the pdf file on the first page, why don't you bother to go through it?



now after their long scenario investigation, they now said that the screening will be done after they must have been grnated a provisional admission(that was the first point in the real article) and that it will be based on checking the candidates O'level results. Now UI too does not write putme if I am correct, but they didn't use the UI model for emphasis, they used the IBB model,so does that not mean that the IBB model is the model without PUTME that they were considering in the first place? With that in mind, does that not mean that it is the method that schools will adopt?

You are seriously ignorant, who told you that UI do no write post ume?

So from your insane question, you are asking me where Jamb explained that the universities can still conduct a screening?

Where did I ask you that?

Didn't you see the first point they made in their proposed model?

And did you bother to read other proceeding points?

In their proposed model, did they blatantly explain how the screening will be done?

Yes, it was stated thus:


1.Screening of candidates shall be for those offered Provisional Admissions ONLY .

2.No written examination to be conducted

3. Verification of Course Requirements (O’levels or A’levels).

4.Verification of valid JAMB results by checking :i.Online Result Slip
ii.Printout
iii.Provisional Admission Letter iv.PhotoAlbumv.Checklistvi.Biometrics

5.InstitutionsarefreetosourcefromotherCourse(s)tocompensateforSHORTFALLinanyofthecriteria.




If you are using your head, you will notice that from the above, the screening of o level will not be based on grading of points as it was done in Ibrahim university, rather it will be based on whether your o level courses tally with the course you are applying for. But then, who knows, maybe you are reading with your nose sad angry


What they said in point 3 is just a matter of verification hence it is easy to see that the verification mentioned is not thesame as the screening they pointed out in their first point(i am now talking about the real Jamb article), so what that means is that the proposed screening mode was not clarified by Jamb! Then since Jamb made it clear that the screening will be on checking of O'level result then isn't it safe to infer that they will adopt the model that they used in explaining the 'admission without putme' style?

That's probably because you don't understand simple English as a result of your writing of o level in those village where answer are readily on ground for you. I mean seriously what is so hard the comprehending this? 3. Verification of Course Requirements (O’levels or A’levels).

And then why are you inferring to an already faulted system?
I dab for your ignorance sha shocked sad

They corrected just two stuffs in that model without putme, the fact that it was done before Jamb grants a provisional admission and the fact that it puts low scoring candidates at a disadvantage.

Yes,

Now in their two corrections they cleared that the screening will now be done after the provisional admission and there won't be a written exam, if there is no written exam, what then will be used?

Refer to page 28, it was clearly stated there.

Or you know something that nobody else does?! I maintain that you did not even read the article from premium times before posting this nonsensical update that you just did,PATHETIC!

And I maintain that you didn't read from the direct source and at the same time are proud of the ignorance.

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Re: Correction: Clarifying The Content Of The New JAMB Modalities For Admission by Mickael2(m): 9:33am On Jul 05, 2016
Genius101:
we all know that credit pass is the minimum requirements for admission into any course in tertiary institutions..no one will tell you that you must have an A in biology before you can study medicine..perhaps people with deficiency in their o level or incomplete results or wrong subjects combo would be used to fill courses that are short changed

when making plans, you do not plan in line with a possible accident. It is assumed that any candidate who registers for Jamb must have gone through the brochure, so it is assumed that all of them have the right subject combo, so you see?

Deficiency in O'level could mean choosing someone with an A over someone with a C, isn't that what they explained?
Re: Correction: Clarifying The Content Of The New JAMB Modalities For Admission by Mickael2(m): 9:37am On Jul 05, 2016
Rilwon:
This guy sha, why are you this stiffnecked? undecided
You didn't bother to answer my questions, you just barge in repeating your previous balderdash like someone that is high of something.
I tire for you o sad



I already said it that the article is not credible enough, why don't you do yourself some help by downloading the models and read it for yourself?



I have read their mumbo jumbo news since yesterday morning, did you bother to read that is really on Jamb site?



Yes it will be based on o level for school screening but it won't be as done by Ibrahim badamosi' university because Jamb concluded that it puts students at disadvantage.

First Jamb will use its.score to provide provisional admission and then, schools will screen students using o level and Jamb score but it wouldn't be that way of Ibrahim university where points are graded. If Jamon hadn't faulted it, then I would've agreed with you, but because you are not reading from the original source, you don't know but you are willfully displaying your ignorance.



The bolder was the first fault they saw in the Ibrahim university. You don't need to mix it up with the second fault. The second fault is very different and clearly spelt out. Why are you this dishonest with yourself?
Someone has pasted the pdf file on the first page, why don't you bother to go through it?





You are seriously ignorant, who told you that UI do no write post ume?



Where did I ask you that?



And did you bother to read other proceeding points?



Yes, it was stated thus:


1.Screening of candidates shall be for those offered Provisional Admissions ONLY .

2.No written examination to be conducted

3. Verification of Course Requirements (O’levels or A’levels).

4.Verification of valid JAMB results by checking :i.Online Result Slip
ii.Printout
iii.Provisional Admission Letter iv.PhotoAlbumv.Checklistvi.Biometrics

5.InstitutionsarefreetosourcefromotherCourse(s)tocompensateforSHORTFALLinanyofthecriteria.




If you are using your head, you will notice that from the above, the screening of o level will not be based on grading of points as it was done in Ibrahim university, rather it will be based on whether your o level courses tally with the course you are applying for. But then, who knows, maybe you are reading with your nose sad angry




That's probably because you don't understand simple English as a result of your writing of o level in those village where answer are readily on ground for you. I mean seriously what is so hard the comprehending this? 3. Verification of Course Requirements (O’levels or A’levels).

And then why are you inferring to an already faulted system?
I dab for your ignorance sha shocked sad



Yes,



Refer to page 28, it was clearly stated there.



And I maintain that you didn't read from the direct source and at the same time are proud of the ignorance.

you just wasted a lot of time writing rubbish. Things that I have already answered. Please move in line with the thread, do not take us back with your senseless comments
Re: Correction: Clarifying The Content Of The New JAMB Modalities For Admission by Rilwon: 9:40am On Jul 05, 2016
Mickael2:


you just wasted a lot of time writing rubbish. Things that I have already answered. Please move in line with the thread, do not take us back with your senseless comments

Shut up! Olodo. sad

You remain the stiff necked senseless clown here.

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Re: Correction: Clarifying The Content Of The New JAMB Modalities For Admission by awesomeDiva(f): 9:50am On Jul 05, 2016
All Nigeria newspaper and radio stations are more than confused...shaking my head for Nigeria
Re: Correction: Clarifying The Content Of The New JAMB Modalities For Admission by Mickael2(m): 9:55am On Jul 05, 2016
Rilwon:

Shut up! Olodo. sad
You remain the stiff necked senseless clown here.
Re: Correction: Clarifying The Content Of The New JAMB Modalities For Admission by Elxandre(m): 9:56am On Jul 05, 2016
Mickael2:


Young man, you are confused. I am a graduate by the way, before the advent of PUTME most of these lower courses were not present and schools did not have a defined capacity, so there was no need for anyone to fill up any course. That was why they made it clear that universities can fill up now. I ask again, how will they now decide who they will fill it up with?
Man, how does being a graduate concern our argument?
zoology did not exist then?
botany & edu courses?

you need to stop making things up.

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