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Re: Construction Of A 3bedroom Bungalow Somewhere In Ajah by 4nobody4every1: 12:21pm On Jan 28, 2016
EgunMogaji:
I wish Seun would provide an "ignore user filter", one of the first names that I'll add is this Quantity Surveyor. I also know that my "admirers" will quickly add me too grin
......As a co-owner of Nairaland, l hereby introduce the ignore user filter, for every ignore button you press, you will be charged 25 dollars..... grin grin cool
Re: Construction Of A 3bedroom Bungalow Somewhere In Ajah by Onuokwu: 3:45pm On Jan 28, 2016
mrpally:
This drawing of the building was the work I did when I took over on monday 25th 2016. Send the pics as at the last time you visited the site or paid any workers.
MR JOHNNY ODEMWINGIE IGUMA aka eghosajohnny, don't push me to the wall to expose all you have done as far as this project is concerned. I have given numbers of those that work on that site to people even a member of this forum for their independent investigation. I paid you for this roof wood since December last year before Christmas, you abandon my work and travel for over two week leaving those you brought to suffer. This roof wood did not commence until 19th o this month and the wood you bought was note enough, you refused to pick my calls and that of all those you are owing .It was the omo onile that made me know when the guys started selling material on site and begging for food in the community. I would stop here so Pls corporate as I don't want to talk much.

Did you pay for the entire roof wood despite I have given you money, why not send all the interior too.

As I have told you give me value for the money I have paid you so far

Don't play smart.

Thanks
It will be interesting to know if you did any sort of due diligence on your contractor. The problem is not with Nairaland or its administrators but rather with you!

As you make your bed.....(you know the rest)
Re: Construction Of A 3bedroom Bungalow Somewhere In Ajah by Onuokwu: 3:55pm On Jan 28, 2016
mrpally:
The delivery date was 20th of this month because I told you my house rent has expired before engaging. Based on that I was pushing funds to you. Tell this house the balance of your money left with me.


The pics of the house as at the time I took over this monday are as follows
This is a very scientific, multitasking build. Plastering and laying blocks all at once.

Did you go through his other threads? Did you think you could change him or make a difference where others failed?...or perhaps there were part of your obligations that remain unfulfilled? Please let us get the full picture because this is puzzling to me. A sense of De ja Vu.
Re: Construction Of A 3bedroom Bungalow Somewhere In Ajah by Onuokwu: 4:09pm On Jan 28, 2016
mrpally:
Can you name a member on NL you have successfully worked for? I am expecting the person comment. On the first day to do set out on site you are not around, we could not do it because of lack of block rather you sent a borrowed engineer, on the new date we shifted it to, you are also not around and you sent another borrowed engineer again. As an engineer who in charge of the job, when is your attention most needed. The guy that did the set out has no detailed building plan, he used approximation and that is what resulted in breaking of toilet for expansion. You changed the drawing of my kitchen, send the kitchen construction to members for their comment. The drawing shows L shape, you changed it and there are no enough space for kitchen cabinet. All these can be confirmed


Thanks you all
I am now more than puzzled.

It is well enough to blame that serial charlatan called Eghosajhonny, but we must also scrutinize the building sponsor/owner. You were aware of bolded above (in your words) and you did not dismiss him at this stage? You continued giving him money expecting different outcomes? And you are here now on Nairaland looking for public sympathy and indulging in 'name and shame?" Well....you know where to put yourself now.
Re: Construction Of A 3bedroom Bungalow Somewhere In Ajah by olumide4christ: 4:52pm On Jan 28, 2016
kopell:
Man in my humble opinion, you don't have to use this sad situation to blame the owner of this project. The reason for him, not consulting with professionals is best known to him. We must not use this unfortunate situation to advertise our professionalism. From most of what we have been reading and learning on this forum. I believe in what we have learned, we can make better decisions on whom we decide to entrust our money with. I have never believed in second chances, once a player plays once he will never stop playing. I believe the owner of this project has read about the builder, before he entrusted him with his money. This is an example for others, never pay most of the money for jobs in lump sum.
Sir, if you truly read my comments, especially the 1st and concluding paragraphs, I never meant to castigate the owner; if that were the case, I won't tell him that I was sorry for his plight and also wish him a speedy completion of his project. The fact about life is that the truth will not always be what we want to hear/ or palatable to us. Truth is sometimes hard, but it always does us good in the long run if we listen and adhere to it. Some here don't like my comments because they aren't pleasing to hear, but the truth must be said. I for one prefer someone who will tell me facts than someone who'll take me for a ride.
Anyways, you're entitled to your opinion.
Regards.
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Re: Construction Of A 3bedroom Bungalow Somewhere In Ajah by Nobody: 5:48pm On Jan 28, 2016
If only Nigeria had consulted Quantity Surveyors, all of her problems would have been averted sad
Re: Construction Of A 3bedroom Bungalow Somewhere In Ajah by NL1960: 6:34pm On Jan 28, 2016
mrpally:
I would pause after this comment for other members to do their independent investigation. Members can call any of these numbers and ask them about their experiences with the engineer working on a site around okun ajah. Names are omitted

Block seller - 08099999285
Bricklayer - 08082261985
Borrowed enginer - 07064636734
Pop boss - 09096637090
Pop boys -08025182618
Parapet - 08109164967
Capinter - 08164639881
Iron bender _ 09091754045

What pains me most is that you prefer to shift blames than to take responsibility. Members here are adults and not kids.

Can you name a member on NL you have successfully worked for? I am expecting the person comment. On the first day to do set out on site you are not around, we could not do it because of lack of block rather you sent a borrowed engineer, on the new date we shifted it to, you are also not around and you sent another borrowed engineer again. As an engineer who in charge of the job, when is your attention most needed. The guy that did the set out has no detailed building plan, he used approximation and that is what resulted in breaking of toilet for expansion. You changed the drawing of my kitchen, send the kitchen construction to members for their comment. The drawing shows L shape, you changed it and there are no enough space for kitchen cabinet. All these can be confirmed

Members, based on the drawing he sent can the amount he claimed I am owing him finish this project just for me to park in. The more you write, the more you expose your self, you have proved that you have been over paid!

As per collecting workers number, I called him, he didn't pick my call as usual, worker and supplier called him, he refused to pick their calls, some workers have stopped working while others are planning to stop. Since I didn't want the project to stop, I had to assure them that I would pay in case MR JOHNNY ODEMWiNGIE IGUMA aka eghosajohnny decides not to pay which he eventually did. If he has paid anyone, it would be to night.

As for not paying pop because they didn't give me number is funny, it was because I didn't have such fund. members can also confirm my position.

I wait for the feedback from member that would decide to do independent investigation. As I have said, I won't comment again for now.

Thanks you all
Onuokwu:
I am now more than puzzled.

It is well enough to blame that serial charlatan called Eghosajhonny, but we must also scrutinize the building sponsor/owner. You were aware of bolded above (in your words) and you did not dismiss him at this stage? You continued giving him money expecting different outcomes? And you are here now on Nairaland looking for public sympathy and indulging in 'name and shame?" Well....you know where to put yourself now.
Gbam. Iam also more than puzzled myself. All these happened and the owner still went ahead to be giving money to the contractor. When the contractor was posting pics here, he did not complain. Iam now more than confused on what is actually going on.
Re: Construction Of A 3bedroom Bungalow Somewhere In Ajah by mrpally(m): 7:19pm On Jan 28, 2016
NL1960:
Gbam. Iam also more than puzzled myself. All these happened and the owner still went ahead to be giving money to the contractor. When the contractor was posting pics here, he did not complain. Iam now more than confused on what is actually going on.
Re: Construction Of A 3bedroom Bungalow Somewhere In Ajah by mrpally(m): 7:22pm On Jan 28, 2016
[quote author=mrpally post=42412636][/quote]Hmmm, it's good to know how to comment on public fora, I never asked for public sympathy or mercy, rather than comment out of point why not ask for the history of this engagement. Some NL members are involved from day so they would know better.

Thanks
Re: Construction Of A 3bedroom Bungalow Somewhere In Ajah by mrpally(m): 7:31pm On Jan 28, 2016
Onuokwu:
It will be interesting to know if you did any sort of due diligence on your contractor. The problem is not with Nairaland or its administrators but rather with you!

As you make your bed.....(you know the rest)
Yes I did, but but at times the result of your analysis
Might not work

I know he won't get away with it

Thanks
Re: Construction Of A 3bedroom Bungalow Somewhere In Ajah by Nobody: 7:36pm On Jan 28, 2016
There's no way to critique this palava without looking as if one is blaming the victim.

I can only watch and learn.
Re: Construction Of A 3bedroom Bungalow Somewhere In Ajah by mufutau55(m): 8:13pm On Jan 28, 2016
NL1960:
Gbam. Iam also more than puzzled myself. All these happened and the owner still went ahead to be giving money to the contractor. When the contractor was posting pics here, he did not complain. Iam now more than confused on what is actually going on.
As explained before... everyone deserves a second chance, at least in my book (it may not be for everyone) and at the beginning the project,
it was going good.. Why complain? But when the going gets rotten, the victim has the right to complain.
Just because the Victim is bringing his case out does not mean he is looking for pity.
If the victim wanted to take a chance/risk, then why not? People do change, only that this guy (Eghosa) will not deserve a third chance.
No need to blame or pity or symphatize the victim.. at least his misfortune will add to all the accusations on ground about Egosha
and people can learn from it.
Eghosa has proved himself to be unreliable, unprofessional and unworthy. So do business with him at your own risk.

And remember what the Holy Book said: "If you don't forgive people, you shall not be forgiven".
But it should not be a repetitive forgiveness.

@EgunMogaji, remember three strikes and you are gone... but in this case there should not be third strikes, two strikes is enough.

Hajji M.
Re: Construction Of A 3bedroom Bungalow Somewhere In Ajah by gabbytabby: 9:03pm On Jan 28, 2016
mufutau55:
Mr. Eghosa Johnny. You said you were at the site today with your workers? Which workers?
I just called the following people today (Jan. 27th, 2016) their information were given to me by Mr. Pally to do an independent investigations.
You are owing everyone of them money.. and you were not at any site... because I asked them.

What kind of Engineer is missing on the day the foundation is being set?
What kind of Engineer is missing from his site for more than two weeks?
What kind of Engineer forces his Bricklayer to start plastering the house without the house being roofed? (I spoke to him)?
What kind of Engineer do a POP on ceiling when the house has not even been roofed? But of course the POP guy refused (I spoke to him).

If you are a real Engineer why did you hire another Engineer that waited for you at the site for about two weeks without you showing-up and eventually that Engineer angrily left the site; and you are owing him too.

I spoke to following people (I am omitting their names)
Bricklayer - (You are still owing him money for his work)
Carpenter - (You are still owing him money for his work)
Block Seller - (You are still owing him money for his work)
Parapet guy - (You are still owing him money for his work)
Cement seller - (You are still owing him money for his work)
Engineer you brought to the site - (You are still owing him money for his work)
POP Guy and his Boss - (You are still owing him money for his work)

There is no worker on that site that says anything good or tangible about you.
You live at Benin and get a contract for jobs in Lagos, and you don't even visit this site.
People on this forum should think twice before they give you any contract.

I believe in being given a second chance, but when you missed that opportunity, there will never be a third chance.

Hajji M.
This is already the third that I am aware of cos he also messed up work for esoorita another niaralander
Re: Construction Of A 3bedroom Bungalow Somewhere In Ajah by mufutau55(m): 9:46pm On Jan 28, 2016
gabbytabby:
This is already the third that I am aware of cos he also messed up work for esoorita another Nairalander.
I was not even aware of this. Then, third strikes and he is out. Thank you.

Heh! Mama. Decking done... sorry for late feedback.. Will send you Whatsapp chat. I want my daughters to be like you when they grow up.smiley
Thanks.


Hajji M.
Re: Construction Of A 3bedroom Bungalow Somewhere In Ajah by Onuokwu: 8:36am On Jan 29, 2016
mufutau55:
And remember what the Holy Book said: "If you don't forgive people, you shall not be forgiven".
But it should not be a repetitive forgiveness.

@EgunMogaji, remember three strikes and you are gone... but in this case there should not be third strikes, two strikes is enough.

Hajji M.
I don't dispute the bolded Oga mi. Now is the time for MrPally to forgive. Before now, he was in a position to exercise due caution but lagged in that. In any case i am a devoted adherent to that maxim "Caveat Emptor".
Re: Construction Of A 3bedroom Bungalow Somewhere In Ajah by Onuokwu: 8:37am On Jan 29, 2016
Ultimately...."Cheap is Expensive"! Hunt for value always.
Re: Construction Of A 3bedroom Bungalow Somewhere In Ajah by NL1960: 10:08am On Jan 29, 2016
mufutau55:
As explained before... everyone deserves a second chance, at least in my book (it may not be for everyone) and at the beginning the project,
it was going good.. Why complain? But when the going gets rotten, the victim has the right to complain.
Just because the Victim is bringing his case out does not mean he is looking for pity.
If the victim wanted to take a chance/risk, then why not? People do change, only that this guy (Eghosa) will not deserve a third chance.
No need to blame or pity or symphatize the victim.. at least his misfortune will add to all the accusations on ground about Egosha
and people can learn from it.
Eghosa has proved himself to be unreliable, unprofessional and unworthy. So do business with him at your own risk.

And remember what the Holy Book said: "If you don't forgive people, you shall not be forgiven".
But it should not be a repetitive forgiveness.

@EgunMogaji, remember three strikes and you are gone... but in this case there should not be third strikes, two strikes is enough.

Hajji M.
"On the first day to do set out on site you are not around, we could not do it because of lack of block rather you sent a borrowed engineer, on the new date we shifted it to, you are also not around and you sent another borrowed engineer again. As an engineer who in charge of the job, when is your attention most needed. The guy that did the set out has no detailed building plan, he used approximation and that is what resulted in breaking of toilet for expansion"

Hajji, i know that everybody deserves a second chance. After being given the second chance and the above happened, it was enough to raise the red flag. That is my point of argument. I just got a new person to do my plumbing this month. The person that was doing it was giving me some stories which raise the red flags in my ear. When i went home for xmas, he came up with another story and said that i should give him an additional amount to do the work. I just sent him out of my house.
Re: Construction Of A 3bedroom Bungalow Somewhere In Ajah by Buildertobadt: 11:34am On Jan 29, 2016
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Re: Construction Of A 3bedroom Bungalow Somewhere In Ajah by olumide4christ: 11:58am On Jan 29, 2016
Onuokwu:
Ultimately...."Cheap is Expensive"! Hunt for value always.
Hmmm... Epic!!

But very true!!
Re: Construction Of A 3bedroom Bungalow Somewhere In Ajah by Nobody: 2:06pm On Jan 29, 2016
olumide4christ:
Hmmm... Epic!!

But very true!!
I've been retrained on that by Brabus. It's a nice process.
Re: Construction Of A 3bedroom Bungalow Somewhere In Ajah by brabus(m): 2:24pm On Jan 29, 2016
EgunMogaji:
I've been retrained on that by Brabus. It's a nice process.
Baba, I've met Olumide and during that meeting with him, we were able to come up with an understanding that will help us both.

Just wait for the big announcement.

There are 3 categories of services.

Fast + Cheap can never be Good.
Good + Fast can never be Cheap.
Cheap + Good can never be Fast.

Which category do you belong?

Re: Construction Of A 3bedroom Bungalow Somewhere In Ajah by Nobody: 2:32pm On Jan 29, 2016
brabus:
Baba, I've met Olumide and during that meeting with him, we were able to come up with an understanding that will help us both.

Just wait for the big announcement.

There are 3 categories of services.

Fast + Cheap can never be Good.
Good + Fast can never be Cheap.
Cheap + Good can never be Fast.

Which category do you belong?
Cheap + Good. No hurry. Much to the chagrin of my admirers from the documented swindling family of thieves grin
Re: Construction Of A 3bedroom Bungalow Somewhere In Ajah by mavverick(m): 2:54pm On Jan 29, 2016
The irony of owing workers money and then collecting the same monies from the client is one that is very common with the quack so called builders on this forum.

It reminds me of one time when a block seller came to my site complaining that brabus hasnt paid him, even thought i didnt buy block from that person. Can you imagine, that one na money miss road.

In another case, wood seller said he will coe to remove my decking wood due to not beign paid by Bosun Shoyoye / Brabus, it was when I said to him that I will give them his home address, the guy wake up sharply and quickly paid them .

Its just a shame that my Eghosa is not in Lagos.
Re: Construction Of A 3bedroom Bungalow Somewhere In Ajah by Larwin(m):
Just flip through d whole tread, it's a pity to see something like this happening. I understand what Mr Pally will be facing right now considering d fact that he needs the project completed as fast as possible.
I already doubt the competence of Johnny from the start, when he was trying to prove his reason for not reinforcing the dpc.
Now correcting for mistakes is more costlier than doing the right thing initially.
I just hope Mr Pally have the financial strength to cover up the loopholes.
Re: Construction Of A 3bedroom Bungalow Somewhere In Ajah by mrpally(m): 9:02am On Jul 07, 2016
Hmmmm, I had to move in like that because it took me two years to raise the money. I am now staying in an uncompleted building with my family. I pity those still defending him. I would appreciate if any client or those defending him to come forward and tell the house a single project he has completed.

As per his service being cheap, it's not cheap at all. His quotation for carcass is within the range of others. It's only the finishing that differs and we agreed not to use luxury items.

Anyway, I have learnt my lessons.
Re: Construction Of A 3bedroom Bungalow Somewhere In Ajah by Segzy23: 6:16pm On Nov 03, 2016
mrpally:
Hmmmm, I had to move in like that because it took me two years to raise the money. I am now staying in an uncompleted building with my family. I pity those still defending him. I would appreciate if any client or those defending him to come forward and tell the house a single project he has completed.

As per his service being cheap, it's not cheap at all. His quotation for carcass is within the range of others. It's only the finishing that differs and we agreed not to use luxury items.

Anyway, I have learnt my lessons.
So sorry to read about your plight. Thank God I read this thread. This same guy desperately asked me to give him my building project 2 years ago, it was his desperation that deterred me. Also, he was far away from the location but was offering his services to that region. Now I am glad I never gave the job. Others have mentioned how desperate he was to secure jobs. One needs to be careful, and also the tact to separate enthusiasm from desperation . Remember it is not a crime not to use luxury items, but it will be if quality items were not used. The quality however, starts with the Engineer. If you get a quality engineer, you are already halfway there.
Re: Construction Of A 3bedroom Bungalow Somewhere In Ajah by esoorita:
mrpally:
Hmmmm, I had to move in like that because it took me two years to raise the money. I am now staying in an uncompleted building with my family. I pity those still defending him. I would appreciate if any client or those defending him to come forward and tell the house a single project he has completed.

As per his service being cheap, it's not cheap at all. His quotation for carcass is within the range of others. It's only the finishing that differs and we agreed not to use luxury items.

Anyway, I have learnt my lessons.
mrpally, I'm very sorry that you were swindled by Johnny. I missed this thread because I've not been interested in Nairaland property forum these days due to topics being derailed by minors every now and then. Johnny is probably the most clueless 'builder' I've ever come across. Gabbytabby was aware of his incompetence with my project in Mayfair Gardens Estate Lekki. I was clever enough to apply the strategy of damage limitation and quickly stopped him from causing irreparable damage and financial loss. I believe your accusation of him not answering his phone because his phone is always switched off or ringing without reply. Johnny and Brabus are birds of the same feather. Deal with them at your own risk and you'll never have a positive story to tell about them.
Re: Construction Of A 3bedroom Bungalow Somewhere In Ajah by Nobody: 6:34pm On Jun 26, 2018
Na wa o �
Re: Construction Of A 3bedroom Bungalow Somewhere In Ajah by Born2Breed(f): 6:15pm On Jun 27, 2018
Good name is better than gold.

After reading almost all comments here, all I can say is The contractor is a disappointment.
Re: Construction Of A 3bedroom Bungalow Somewhere In Ajah by Born2Breed(f): 6:15pm On Jun 27, 2018
Good name is better than gold. After reading almost all comments here, all I can say is The contractor is a disappointment.
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