₦airaland Forum

fem29:
Gosh I'm crying . I really care what you think

darkenedrebel:
But this has and is still practiced in some parts in Ghana. I cannot remember the names of the tribes now, but in those tribes in Ghana, the man takes up the woman's name. It's not necessarily a 'western ideology' as you put it.

francis18:
YES YOU CARE YOU KNOW WHY? YOU ARE STILL HERE BITCHH!

fem29:
Sigh. .. I'm just responding to my mentions. My inalienable right.

If you really think I care about what some sicko on the Internet thinks, you need stronger meds. Again seek help

francis18:
HAHAHAHA YEAH RIGHT RESPONDING TO YOUR MENTION YOU SAID? YOU CARE BITCHH YOU ARE THE SICKO HERE,AN IRRESPONSIBLE MOTHER STILL AWAKE TALKING TO HER FRIEND THE SICKO.WHO IS THE SICKO HERE REALLY?SEEK HELP I AM ONLY HERE TO LISTEN TO YOU AND KEEP YOU COMPANY THIS NIGHT.

fem29:
Lawd see rambling. Mental state deteriorating. It would be mean of me to laugh at ya. Get help ooo. Nor be me cause your crase

francis18:
GET HELP DESPERATE WOMAN GET HELP LONELY WOMAN I AM HAVING MAD FUN.NEVER EVER I HAD A SICKO LIKE YOU RESPONDING IN MY EVERY POST AND A WOMAN FOR THAT MATTER.NO WONDER THE MAN RUN AWAY,SEE A NEGLIGENT MOTHER YOU ARE.I TOLD YOU WILL BE HERE TILL TOMORROW WITH ME,AND I WILL SHOW NL THAT YOU ARE VERY SICK AND LONELY.

fem29:
Lawd. I will respond if I want. YOU have no control over me. Carry on

francis18:
I HAVE CONTROL OVER YOU THAT IS WHY YOU ARE HERE RATHER THEN BEING IN BED WITH YOUR BRATS. CARRY ON

fem29:
Maybe you sleep with your own mama. I dunno maybe that is the cause of your insanity. Get help

francis18:
NAH YOUR MOTHER SLEPT WITH YOUR UNCLE THAT IS WHY YOUR FATHER LEFT HER AND YOUR HUSBAND LEFT YOU FOR BEING STUPID AND KNEW YOU SLEPT AROUND AND GAVE HIM THOSE BASTARD LITTLE BRATS OF YOURS. GET HELP.

fem29:
Dude your life story . Stop projecting

TV01:
Ey yah! I can see your passions are aroused and you are hurting...and coming dangerously close to blowing the civilised discourse you always prate about . I'll respond to a few of your points to demonstrate how much of a mindless ideological automaton you are;

Hivemind - so refugee status is indeterminate? . Even if in stages, will they not eventually be granted full citizenship rights? Will they, even as refugees, not be allowed to settle certain family members? Will they at some point not be allowed to work unencumbered - if only to get them off welfare. An amazingly daft statement

Come is this your ideology genetically embedded, or is it administered via daily injections/intravenous drip . Immediate contributions, even if I concede your point for arguments sake, are very much different from a long-term investment.

Ten Foreigners coming to the UK, even earning £100K and paying higher rate tax of 40%, have not invested long term in building and maintaining infrastructure. Their immediate contributions will not fund school places for their children, or hospital places for their sick relatives. Not to mention the real sacrifices of blood, sweat and tears it takes to build a nation through time and history.

And, I don't concede the point about them contributing more. There are simply too many factors and assumptions - most are not highly skilled and high earning. Age, length of stay, skill profile, fertility, entitlement to welfare, infrastructure use etc., are all considerations.

Most models are extremely simplified, none look at things historically, and the net difference, even for favourably biased reports, is always a few % points. So its, not a lie, let alone the biggest one ever, quit the histrionics, And quit the expectation of my comforting you in your ideological fog

I actually agree here. Mass or unchecked immigration, although presenting problems of it's own, is more a symptom of deeper underlying issues. The lack of infrastructural and educational investment is a huge failure, however, Europe' big blunder is it's falling fertility. Hence the need for immigrants. I laughed my self silly over the 7 odd players of African descent in the French team

I'd wager that 95% of people in healthy, well-ordered EU countries have no desire to roam. Visit, maybe, roam, nah! Turkey is somewhere I visit. I'm not moving there. Lot's of French nationals rock up to the UK due to the accommodating environment for business and talent. The UK will not lose more than it gains by leaving.

Nationalism/tribalism has it's place, strong nations can engage, share, co-operate and trade - as they have always done. Unevenly yoking nations together does not mean progress, it means problems. Nations and peoples without their right to sovereignty and self-determination always experience unrest. The UK exit regardless, the EU project is a failure, and only being held together by increasingly dictatorial policy.

If the UK is superceded naturally so be it. Nations strive and compete just like individuals. It's up to them to compete effectively.


TV

BloodyCrook:
I have to warn you, I am not TV01. I have a thin tolerance for silly questions. I take it out on the poser mercilessly.

Girl, you're truly ignorant, little wonder you love using that word. Germany has one of the largest dependency ratio in Europe with massive population decline owing to low birthrate. She needs able-bodied influx of people to beef up the work rate and productivity of the economy. The Syrian crisis was an opportunity in a rare moment in time.

Lazy bone you. Do read up and let Google breath!!!
You don't want to see the large quantity of water being used by Google staff to cool off their servers and CPU, yet you keep sending people there to foster your silly little banters and encouraging dumb kids like the rebel thief to impersonate with Google.
The UK is set to become EU most populous country, Germany has to improvise.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-34172729
I alluding to the Paris attack/bombing not London. So I stated "French bombers" Go read the post again. Hallucinatory ranter.
sentimental and stüpid question Mindfulness, aka carefreewannabe, I didn't make any judgments. The people of the United Kingdom voted to be out of the EU, and as I opined they voted rightly. What judgment have I passed.

Befuddled ewu. Ignoramus. Incorrigible quack!

BloodyCrook:
You don't have a prayer, banter-lover. You should have asked me if I checked Google about flying pigs.

Timbuktou:
He had his home and I didn't influence his decisions and policies why should he influence mine? Not giving a hoot about your FIL's name is oppression of women. . We can't have it all.


Would I be conscious of my previous life? If not, it would make no difference.

Mindfulness:
Your wife wants to have influence, not your FIL. You are getting it twisted.

Timbuktou:
Lol. You're a funny human.

Acidosis:
I think the conclusion of the whole matter is that people should learn to define their own standards; what they know as right and wrong should stand, without following a vague or real trend of an exposed icon.

Hyphenated names may be trending in the USA and Nigeria, but remember that Obama and Buhari's wives have not changed their names. Indecency or nudity may be trending in the UK, but we have never seen the Queen on bra & net.

Even Obama who has supposedly legalized ga.y marriage has not offered his butt for ga.y sex. All he has done is to give everyone the right to define their rights and wrongs, as long as it hurts no one in the process. So, wives should learn to consult their husbands ONLY, on critical issues learned from vague outsiders.

Let each and every family define their own standards. I'm sorry for any generalization I must have made on the thread. However, my standard is against any attached name without a well-defined purpose.

Mindfulness:


Not when people talk about politics without making an iota of sense.
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Asylum seekers can freely cross European borders.

And such people have one vote just like me.

People should be tested before they are allowed to cast a vote.

Timbuktou:
People really should be tested. It wasn't so long ago that there were stiff, sensible requirements before anyone would have the privilege of voting. Asylum seekers voting is grave injustice.

Mindfulness:
Asylum seekers are not voting. Even EU citizens can only vote in the countries of which they have their passports.


The problem is that people make migrants and refugees responsible for the problems their countires are facing even though these groups of people are not the ones that created them. People from lower social classes are pointing their fingers at other distinct groups from lower social classes instead of pointing their fingers at those up the social ladder who have had the power to create a financial crisis that hit the poorest the most.



I have a vision of a world without borders where everyone can move freely. I hope I will come to see it before I die. One world, one human race!

Mindfulness:
Nonsense. You claimed that refugees = people with refugee status can cross borders and it was utter ignorance. Now you are swimming in your sea of ignorance referring to those who will be granted full citizenship even though most of them won't because refugees are suppossed to leave the country as soon as the war is over. You don't even know the difference between migrants and refugees. PULEASE!

Timbuktou:
I got that impression from your post. I wondered how possible that was. Anyway, thanks for the clarification.

It's quite a complicated matter, really. The migrants aren't the problem, the government is. However, government doesn't seem to be able to manage the situation well, and if they can't manage it effectively the result is exactly what you see. People will naturally pander to what soothes their troubles.

Lol. Stop smoking weed early in the morning. Tell that to the millions of raped German and Swedish women.

edwife:
Mindfulness i had to jump in because i have quite a broad knowledge on refugees because i have a large extended family all over EU and some came as refugees and were able to settle with their families.

Careful consideration must be given to revoking refugee status and removing or varying any associated leave where:
• it is clear that someone no longer needs protection (cessation)
• evidence emerges that status was obtained by misrepresentation (cancellation)
• someone commits a serious crime or represents a threat to our national security such that they no longer deserve protection (revocation)

Most of the time, when your refugee status expires-let's say you were given 5 years in the UK, you will apply for a leave to remain as a refugee.It depends on your circumstance,even if your country is no longer in war-you can be given an indefinite stay if you have a family(kids and spouse) and has never been in the bad side of the law and working.Now whenever you are given an indefinite leave to remain, you will wait for a year before asking for citizenship which in most cases is given. Citizenship by grant or naturalisation could be granted after five years of residence to foreign nationals including asylum seekers,refugees and Commonwealth citizens alike, subject to meeting various conditions which i stated earlier.

A refugee as the same right as citizens of that country and get all the benefits. If a refugee intend to travel, he is given a Convention Travel Document, also known as ‘blue document’ to use as a valid travel document in place of passport to travel overseas. This document is valid for all countries except the one from which the person sought asylum.As everybody else, refugees can travel freely through the Schengen zone as tourists, but they cannot stay longer than 90 days nor can they work in other EU countries without residence and work permits.

It's only asylum seekers whose status determination procedure is still ongoing, travelling is more problematic. EU legislation determines strictly that asylum seekers have to await a decision about their application in the country where they submitted it. They are usually not entitled to travel or work during the asylum procedure.

You can read further about refugee status here:https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/493918/revocation_of_refugee_status_v4_0_EXT.pdf

Mindfulness:
@red

And that's a good thing considering the fact that European societies are aging.


@bold

The British opted out of the Schengen Agreement and thus have already been controlling their borders.
A fact that was barely mentioned in the debate.


It is disgraceful to leave the EU on grounds of a possible terrorist threat when many prospective and past suicide bombers are and were from former British colonies and raised on the British soil.