Icon4s:


Imagine what a prominent player in our football federation is saying.

Sebi a foreign coach is coming let us see hu would raise all those "focus more on local players" nonsense.

forgiveness:


This Minister, if I tell una wetin em do eh... Una go know say em na....

First of all, is he saying NFF didn't inform him?

Or they wrote to him but he refused to approve it?

If the second question is what really transpired btw the ministry of sports and NFF, then was he expecting NFF and the team to wait till thine Kingdom come or after the tournament before he approves the letter?

I just no wan talk wetin..

tbaba1234:


To be honest, i doubt any foreign coach can last in the Nigerian set-up. Only Nigerian coaches can keep up with the crap, partly out of patriotism and survival.

forgiveness:
Since, I have accepted the reality before me I want to present my starting eleven.


............................ Akpeyi


Musa......... Omeruo... .. Ekong....... Madu

... . .... Mikel

........................... Etebor


Simon.............. Sodiq ............. Imoh


........................ Umar


Modified

Icon4s:


All these are part of public sector bureacracy and tussle for power and importance.

They will settle las las no worry.

Icon4s:



Note that Moses Simon is out as his club has refused his release.


Pending when d final list would be out this is my prefred set up:

......................Akpeyi

Musa..Omeruo..Troost-Ekong..Madu

.............Azubuike
.............................Mikel


Dimgba..........Etebor.........Imoh

...................Ighalo.


In d absence of Ighalo my attack would b set up in this form:

Dimgba.......Popoola.....Etebor

...................Imoh.

Mtchew. This team looks too average sef

safarigirl:
icon4s abeg no dey encourage rubbish. It's not funny, it's annoying and pathetic.

Forgiveness please stop these blind arguments, they make you look like a twelve year old boy trying to tell his 70-year old grandpa facts of the civil war.

It's a sorry sight and i'm honestly tired of your diaper arguments. The seniors may find your antics funny, but that should make you worried because that means nobody is even taking you seriously. Your arguments are in vain if no one is taking them seriously

forgiveness:


Simon Moses not released! I thought Ighalo is not yet confirmed for the Olympics football game.

I think the first team set up is better but with the exception of Dimgba. I know wan see am there.


If Ighalo is not going then..


Imoh........... Etebor........ Umar


............. Ajayi


This team has 3 or more experience player. We can do something in Rio Olympics football game ooooo.

forgiveness:


Simon Moses not released! I thought Ighalo is not yet confirmed for the Olympics football game.

I think the first team set up is better but with the exception of Dimgba. I know wan see am there.


If Ighalo is not going then..


Imoh........... Etebor........ Umar


............. Ajayi


This team has 3 or more experience player. We can do something in Rio Olympics football game ooooo.

safarigirl:
icon4s abeg no dey encourage rubbish. It's not funny, it's annoying and pathetic.

Forgiveness please stop these blind arguments, they make you look like a twelve year old boy trying to tell his 70-year old grandpa facts of the civil war.

It's a sorry sight and i'm honestly tired of your diaper arguments. The seniors may find your antics funny, but that should make you worried because that means nobody is even taking you seriously. Your arguments are in vain if no one is taking them seriously

kaboninc:


Its a shame what you wrote up there.

You most times come off like one brilliant, well informed individual but truly, your approach is always rude and shows crass ignorance on the subject at hand.

You are really young and have no experience (based on what you wrote) about management and how organizations are run. Because it is a government agency doesn't mean that anybody can act in any way he/she likes. That is why we are in this mess and shamefully too, people like you (who are not just only ignorant but do not want to learn) support and condone such irresponsible behaviour.

In all modestly, what the Minister said is very true. You don't just leave without an approval from a higher authority. If you are travelling for such an important occassion, you should request for an approval and until such an approval is granted, you can't leave. This is how discipline is instilled into people and enforced in organisations.

At most, if there was no minister at that material time, then the Secretary to the Government of the Federation could (all with the express approval of the President) intercede. Most important is that you were permitted to travel or execute a project.

Don't come here showing your ignorance on issues just because you have an idea or you want to contribute to the discuss like one who has an authority on the subject.

Petrobros:


This foul mouthed girl is back here again.

The last time u came here u constituted a nuissance and ran away crying with ur tail in between ur legs.

Though forgiveness has been argueing here bt he has conducted himself well as a perfect gentle man.

Look at d trash u posted abt him. Must every1 agree over every issue.

Did Icon4s, TheGoodJoe and others that have engaged him on d arguments week long complain?

You have come back with ur insults. Pls go back to that ur Romance section and look for some1 to marry and Bleep out of here!

Abeg forgiveness, ignore her.

forgiveness:





No 1, Olympics Marseille had been in the Limelight before Chelsea


@bolded explained it all. There was an era between 1991 - 1998, that is the era I am talking about. During that era Olympics Marseille will beat Chelsea fc to a player because they were always in the top 10 UEFA rankings while Chelsea fc was no where near top 200.

By 1991, Olympics Marseille ranked 20 out of the 236 clubs while Chelsea fc was not ranked.

By 1992, Olympics Marseille ranked 7 out of the 246 clubs but Chelsea didn't make the rankings

By 1993, Olympics Marseille ranked 5th out of 246 clubs but as usual Chelsea fc wasn't ranked

By 1994, Olympics Marseille was ranked 8 out of 246 but unfortunately Chelsea fc missed out again.

By 1995, Olympics Marseille was ranked 9th while Chelsea fc for the first time made the rankings at120th position.

By 1996, Olympics Marseille dropped to 26th position, Chelsea fc moved up to the 112 position.

By 1997, Olympics Marseille dropped to 50 while Chelsea fc also dropped to 124. (the year Chelsea bought Celestine Babayaro).

Meaning small club bought Celestine Babayaro.

Even in this era PSG will beat Chelsea fc to a player. Does that mean PSG is bigger than Chelsea fc?

Note; Desailly was already a player of Marseille in 1993 before he moved to AC Milan and Chelsea fc.

Flo was bought for the relatively small fee of £300,000 by the English Premier League team Chelsea in the summer of 1997.

No 2, Celestine Babayaro's era

Based on that UEFA rating btw 1999 - 2004 which happens to be Celestine Babayaro's era, you can see Chelsea fc was not in the top 10. Although, they were rated higher than Olympics Marseille but they were not a big club during that era. They were fluctuating btw 11 - 25. That alone confirmed they were small club.


No 3 ,Roman's Era 2004 - till date

In 2007, Chelsea fc was ranked 20

In 2008, Chelsea fc was ranked 1

In, 2009, Chelsea fc was ranked 2

In 2010, Chelsea fc was ranked 3

As you can see Chelsea was a small club before Roman bought the club.


I know all these because I remembered my first reaction when I heard Chelsea fc bought Celestine Babayaro. I was disappointed a small club bought Nigeria.

And as at that time, the Belgium pro league was very popular among Nigeria viewers.

forgiveness:





No 1, Olympics Marseille had been in the Limelight before Chelsea


@bolded explained it all. There was an era between 1991 - 1998, that is the era I am talking about. During that era Olympics Marseille will beat Chelsea fc to a player because they were always in the top 10 UEFA rankings while Chelsea fc was no where near top 200.

By 1991, Olympics Marseille ranked 20 out of the 236 clubs while Chelsea fc was not ranked.

By 1992, Olympics Marseille ranked 7 out of the 246 clubs but Chelsea didn't make the rankings

By 1993, Olympics Marseille ranked 5th out of 246 clubs but as usual Chelsea fc wasn't ranked

By 1994, Olympics Marseille was ranked 8 out of 246 but unfortunately Chelsea fc missed out again.

By 1995, Olympics Marseille was ranked 9th while Chelsea fc for the first time made the rankings at120th position.

By 1996, Olympics Marseille dropped to 26th position, Chelsea fc moved up to the 112 position.

By 1997, Olympics Marseille dropped to 50 while Chelsea fc also dropped to 124. (the year Chelsea bought Celestine Babayaro).

Meaning small club bought Celestine Babayaro.

Even in this era PSG will beat Chelsea fc to a player. Does that mean PSG is bigger than Chelsea fc?

Note; Desailly was already a player of Marseille in 1993 before he moved to AC Milan and Chelsea fc.

Flo was bought for the relatively small fee of £300,000 by the English Premier League team Chelsea in the summer of 1997.

No 2, Celestine Babayaro's era

Based on that UEFA rating btw 1999 - 2004 which happens to be Celestine Babayaro's era, you can see Chelsea fc was not in the top 10. Although, they were rated higher than Olympics Marseille but they were not a big club during that era. They were fluctuating btw 11 - 25. That alone confirmed they were small club.


No 3 ,Roman's Era 2004 - till date

In 2007, Chelsea fc was ranked 20

In 2008, Chelsea fc was ranked 1

In, 2009, Chelsea fc was ranked 2

In 2010, Chelsea fc was ranked 3

As you can see Chelsea was a small club before Roman bought the club.


I know all these because I remembered my first reaction when I heard Chelsea fc bought Celestine Babayaro. I was disappointed a small club bought Nigeria.

And as at that time, the Belgium pro league was very popular among Nigeria viewers.

forgiveness:





No 1, Olympics Marseille had been in the Limelight before Chelsea


@bolded explained it all. There was an era between 1991 - 1998, that is the era I am talking about. During that era Olympics Marseille will beat Chelsea fc to a player because they were always in the top 10 UEFA rankings while Chelsea fc was no where near top 200.

By 1991, Olympics Marseille ranked 20 out of the 236 clubs while Chelsea fc was not ranked.

By 1992, Olympics Marseille ranked 7 out of the 246 clubs but Chelsea didn't make the rankings

By 1993, Olympics Marseille ranked 5th out of 246 clubs but as usual Chelsea fc wasn't ranked

By 1994, Olympics Marseille was ranked 8 out of 246 but unfortunately Chelsea fc missed out again.

By 1995, Olympics Marseille was ranked 9th while Chelsea fc for the first time made the rankings at120th position.

By 1996, Olympics Marseille dropped to 26th position, Chelsea fc moved up to the 112 position.

By 1997, Olympics Marseille dropped to 50 while Chelsea fc also dropped to 124. (the year Chelsea bought Celestine Babayaro).

Meaning small club bought Celestine Babayaro.

Even in this era PSG will beat Chelsea fc to a player. Does that mean PSG is bigger than Chelsea fc?

Note; Desailly was already a player of Marseille in 1993 before he moved to AC Milan and Chelsea fc.

Flo was bought for the relatively small fee of £300,000 by the English Premier League team Chelsea in the summer of 1997.

No 2, Celestine Babayaro's era

Based on that UEFA rating btw 1999 - 2004 which happens to be Celestine Babayaro's era, you can see Chelsea fc was not in the top 10. Although, they were rated higher than Olympics Marseille but they were not a big club during that era. They were fluctuating btw 11 - 25. That alone confirmed they were small club.


No 3 ,Roman's Era 2004 - till date

In 2007, Chelsea fc was ranked 20

In 2008, Chelsea fc was ranked 1

In, 2009, Chelsea fc was ranked 2

In 2010, Chelsea fc was ranked 3

As you can see Chelsea was a small club before Roman bought the club.


I know all these because I remembered my first reaction when I heard Chelsea fc bought Celestine Babayaro. I was disappointed a small club bought Nigeria.

And as at that time, the Belgium pro league was very popular among Nigeria viewers.

TheGoodJoe:


Tore Andre Flo

When it comes to value for money there can be few as good as Tore Andre Flo, who arrived at Chelsea in the summer of 1997 as a £300,000 signing from Brann Bergen in his native Norway.

Three seasons later, with 50 first team goals to his name, he departed in a £12 million deal to Rangers and a reputation as one of the best finishers in the game.

safarigirl:
Hai, thegoodjoe, he haff drop the matter

Icon4s:


Imagine what a prominent player in our football federation is saying.

Sebi a foreign coach is coming let us see hu would raise all those "focus more on local players" nonsense.

TheGoodJoe:


I just came online and I was replying my mentions. How are you doing and how is your day? Hope very fine.

safarigirl:
okay.. ..my day is bad so far, it hopefully will get better before it ends.

Yours?

TheGoodJoe:


Well, from reports I heard, Paul Le Guen wants to run a regular scouting program of local talents to push into the National team. He plans to stay in Nigeria to become familiar and acquainted with the local talents.

I support him on that. Remember due to Club commitments, it is difficult for coaches to become acquainted with players. As long as in major tournaments and competitions we have the best whether local or foreign, I think it is the right move.

As for Coach Siasia, I believe we landed in this problem of a weak squad because of a bias screening process. There is no way a coach can not build a stronger defense with thorough scouting.

safarigirl:
thank God, you're petrobros. If forgiveness didn't b*tch, you don't get to b*tch in his favour.

The way you focus on just me, maybe you're thinking of a proposal

Icon4s:


There is no problem with this approach. That is the normal thing every new coach does.

Bt what Barr Green is saying is he should rely more on the local players.

We have done this several times in recent years and at d end of d day we fall back on foreign pros after d predominantly local team starts on a low.

This has caused us vital pts in qualifying series. Eg look at d crop of players Oliseh started with dat drew away in Tanzania. That drew pt us behind Egypt before d epic clashes.

It is nt dat in our first game against Zambia we would field a predominantly home based team and lose. From their we will start d chasing game.

We need to hit d ground speeding. I thought dey said s major pt Paul Le Guen scored was dat he has been following Nigerian players in Europe.

He can as usual start camping with local players bt he should then invite a rich list of foreign based players. And then select d best from their.

What i dnt want to see is because we in a rebuilding process he'll now field one "Gambo Mohammed" that players for Kano pillars as our top striker.

We know d emerging talents of Nigerian football and Paul Le Guem should also know as they claim.

The qualifiers fall under d FIFA window so there is no way d clubs won't release d players.

Nigeria is playing Tanzania in September that match to me should b a dress rehersal for d Zambia game. We need to field our might against Tanzania so as to assess d weakness in d team.

We need to hit Lusaka running.

safarigirl:
thank God, you're petrobros. If forgiveness didn't b*tch, you don't get to b*tch in his favour.

The way you focus on just me, maybe you're thinking of a proposal

TheGoodJoe:


I get your point and I think it the same with what the coach wants to do.

He will have his local talents in camp who will work with him regularly. So they can understand his philosophy and tactics. He already knows about most of our foreign pros. So I do not see the selection a challenge.

What I see happening is using breakthrough home based boys to make the team stronger.

Just like the addition of MBA and Oboabona made us stronger.

Paul Le Guen wants to know Nigerian football inside out. That is why he is talking of living here and watching most of our home league games live in the stadia.

He looks a serious chap and it seems he already has his game plan ready.

I wish we could see his skype interview with the NFF.

TheGoodJoe:
I just hope the NFF leave their ITK and allow the man work.

Icon4s:


Yeah.

Sunday Mba, Ejike Uzoenyi and Godfrey Obaobona comes to mind.

Now, bt d difference between then and now is Stephen Keshi started his build up with weak oppositions. Keshi's first game was against Rwanda in Kigali where he drew 0-0 & was highly critisized for d teams poor play. He came back & won d return leg.

His next game was against Liberia in Monrovia he again drew & won the return leg. With all those matches against relatively weaker oppositions he was building the team. In between he also had CHAN qualifiers from where he really tested the home boys before 2013 AFCON.

The difference now is we dnt have dat luxury of easy games. After playing against Zambia in Lusaka we are hosting Algeria. If Le Guen adopts that Keshi's approach we would have lost our first 2 games before we identify the local talents.

The Tanzania game is key to our preparations. We need to know d squad that will visit Lusaka from dat game.

No game to waste.

Icon4s:


Bt they really have to let him know we are in a despirate situation.

No time for uneccesary experiments.