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I am not sure where you would like to start with this, and I am not sure you know either.
But by your page you really sound like a JW, you are either been taught by them, or are you a seven day Adventist?
Well lets start by finding your answers, what is your gut feeling telling you bro-how much more evidence do we need, the bible works in two ways, you either believe it {Which is Spiritual} or you don't believe it {Which is flesh}
I believe you already know the answer and maybe its either been push so far down-and it's been a long time since you really heard about the word of God-and recently the Word is knocking on your door once again-and after hearing some teachings from either the JW's your own feelings isn't the same teachings you had received before. It seems your personal knowledge is about to surface, and at this present time the teachings you are receiving is confusing what you already know. {Is this what you are asking?}
Is this why you are seeking after the truth-tell me in your own words who Jesus is to you? And we could go on from their.
If you are truly seeking the truth bro you have come to the right site, the truth will set you free.

tempem:
Kai.. Uncle.
Did I ever mention to you that am a Witness?
Know this in your heart, and let it ring.
You could see how I broke down
John 1:1 and John 1:14.. using clear, truthful words to back up the write up.
Which you honestly agree to.
Just later on.. You left the last part. And dropped long list of other verses.
Am not arguing whether Jesus is God or not. I did want to know. Isn't that simple a request?

I'll first like to talk about that part you scratched off in my post you quoted.
I said :" they have gone ahead to understand that someone gave that name, who gave that name and why it is giving".
you decided to scratch that statement probably because you could not respond to it!
I will come back to the scriptures you cannot comment on after looking into your post.


now let's look at what you said:

solite3:
really do you believe that the name of Jesus is the highest name both in heaven and on earth

Jesus is an heir, someone who sits at the right hand of the most high(he sits there, not cus of his own volition, but because the most high commanded him to), yet you want me to believe that his name is the highest in heaven and on earth? higher above the person who exalted him? who gave him the name?
This you asked me to do without giving surporting evidence!, only one whose aim is to twist the scriptures does that!

In case you want to use Phil 2: 9 which says : " (King James Bible) Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
pls you will need to add extra info so that all will know that the spirit is guiding you. You need to tell us
1. who gave him(jesus) that name
2. what is the name of the person that gave jesus that name
3. what was the name of jesus before being given that name
4. when did this name giving occur
5. looking at the statement "and given him a name which is above every name", pls tell us, is jesus now above the person that gave him the name!?

PLS READERS, NOTICE IF HE WILL ONCE AGAIN FAIL TO RESPOND TO THIS ABOVE QUESTIONS.

Do you believe only Jesus has the power to give eternal life?

sir, your question comes from a twisted motive, but I will give you an answer straight from the scriptures, moreover, if you had read the scriptures I quoted to you, you might not have asked this question.

I had quoted this verses to you(and I'm now underlining the important issues about evala sting life.
[b]Joh 17:3 This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.
Joh 17:8 because I have given them the sayings that you gave me, and they have accepted them and have certainly come to know that I came as your representative, and they have believed that you sent me.
Joh 5:20For the Father has affection for the Son and shows him all the things he himself does, and he will show him works greater than these, so that you may marvel.
Joh 5:22 For the Father judges no one at all, but he has entrusted all the judging to the Son,
Ac 10:42Also, he ordered us to preach to the people and to give a thorough witness that this is the one decreed by God to be judge of the living and the dead.
Ac 17:30True, God has overlooked the times of such ignorance; but now he is declaring to all people everywhere that they should repent.
Ac 17:31Because he has set a day on which he purposes to judge the inhabited earth in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed, and he has provided a guarantee to all men by resurrecting him from the dead.”
Joh 5:24Most truly I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes the One who sent me has everlasting life, and he does not come into judgment but has passed over from death to life.
Joh 5:26 For just as the Father has life in himself, so he has GRANTED also to the Son to have life in himself.
Joh 3:16“ For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life.
Joh 6:40 FOR THIS IS THE WILL OF MY FATHER, that everyone who recognizes the Son and exercises faith in him should have everlasting life, and I will resurrect him on the last day.”
IF YOU COULD READ THIS SCRIPTURES ABOVE SOLITE3 AND YOU CANT DIDUCE WHO REALLY HAD THE POWER TO GIVE EVALASTING LIFE, THEN THEIR IS LITTLE MORE I CAN DO!

For a simple answer to your question, jesus is not the only person that has power to give eternal life, so I do not believe that only jesus can give eternal life.
jesus himself was resurrected by someone else, that one has the power to give eternal life
I do believe that man can only gain everlasting life through jesus and his father(the only true god)- John 17:3 .
It is only through jesus christ that man has been given the chance by god to gain evala sting life!- John 3:16, John 6:40
Ro 6:23For the wages sin pays is death, but the gift God gives is everlasting life by Christ Jesus our Lord.
Joh 12:49For I have not spoken of my own initiative, but the Father who sent me has himself [u]given me a commandment about what to say and what to speak.
john 12:50And I know that his commandment means everlasting life. So whatever I speak, [u]I speak just as the Father has told me.”
If I'm wrong, pls let's here your views!

@ cancelled that is your problem you go beyond the scriptures and then bring in daminable heresies to fill your lust

I do not go beyond the scriptures , the scriptures is very clear about who gave jesus to mankind and why he gave jesus to mankind, it is also clear about who gave the person jesus his names!

Do you believe in God's own witness that eternal life is in Christ and not in your organization?

my organization can't give anyone eternal life, but it can guide you to the one god has ordained to give us evalasting life. so I do believe gods own witness that everlasting life is in christ, we cannot gain evalasting life without him!

Christians who simply believe in christ, don't you believe they have eternal life through him?

does simply believing in christ make one have eternal life? no , so I don't believe they have eternal life through him cus they simply believe in christ.
[b]Joh 6:27 Work, not for the food that perishes, but for the food that remains for everlasting life, which the Son of man will give you; for on this one the Father, God himself, has put his seal of approval.”
Joh 17:3 This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ
luke 10:27,28 In answer he said: “‘You must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole strength and with your whole mind’ and ‘your neighbor as yourself.’”28He said to him: “You answered correctly; keep DOING this and you will get life.”
solite3, faith without works is dead!

U quoted 1 Tim 2:5,6 do you believe Jesus is a man and God and not an angel?

I believe jesus was a man, I do not believe jesus is a man and god!.
1Pe 3:18For Christ died once for all time for sins, a righteous person for unrighteous ones, in order to lead you to God. He was put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit.
1Co 15:50But I tell you this, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit God’s Kingdom, nor does corruption inherit incorruption

No sir! Jehovah witnesses do not know the source of life and this is not a false claim

they believe the following scriptures :
Joh 17:3 This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.
Joh 3:16“For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life.
Joh 6:27Work, not for the food that perishes, but for the food that remains for everlasting life, which the Son of man will give you; for on this one the Father, God himself, has put his seal of approval.”[/b]
now solite3, do you believe the scriptures above?

The big question to Jehovah witness is,
DO YOU BELIEVE IN CHRIST?
Look at what Jesus said
John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long with you, and yet hast thou not know me, Philip? he that has seen me hath seen the Father: and how sayest thou then, she's us the father
U cannot know who the father is, when you consistently deny who the son really is.

In vs 10 Jesus made it bold that he is in the father and the father is in him
In john10:30 he made it clear that he and the father are one.
But just like Philip u want to know the father outside Christ not knowing that the father himself is in Christ and Christ in him.

do I believe in christ ? Yes !
lemme add some of my belief's about christ
1. I believe he was sent by god
2. I believe we can gain everlasting life through him
3. I believe he was anointed by god
4. I believe he is sitting at the right hand of the almighty God
5. I belive he the one sent to be our saviour
6. I believe he is the son of God
7. I believe he is subjected to god and does the will of his father
8. I believe him when he said the father is our his god
9. I believe him when he said the father is our God
do you agree with my beliefs!

have I denied who the son really is?no
is the son the same person as the father? noooooo!

you mention scriptures , but you can't eXplain then, cus doing so will expose your false doctrines.

SOME SCRIPTURES FROM MY LAST POST WHICH YOU COULD NOT RESPOND TO
first jehovah said:
[b]De 18:15Jehovah your God will raise up for you from among your brothers a prophet like me. You must listen to him.
Ac 3:22, 23In fact, Moses said: ‘Jehovah your God will raise up for you from among your brothers a prophet like me. You must listen to whatever he tells you. 23Indeed, anyone who does not listen to that Prophet will be completely destroyed from among the people.’

Mt 17:5While he was still speaking, look! a bright cloud overshadowed them, and look! a voice out of the cloud said: “This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved. Listen to him.”
Isa 42:1 Look! My servant, whom I support! My chosen one, whom I have approved! I have put my spirit in him; He will bring justice to the nations.

2Pe 1:17, 18 For HE RECIEVED from God the Father honor and glory when words such as these were conveyed to him by the magnificent glory: “This is my Son, my beloved, whom I myself have approved.”[/b]

WHAT DID Jesus AND THE DISCIPLES SAY ABOUT OUR GOD ?
Joh 20:17Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’”

WHAT DID HIS DISCIPLES SAY ABOUT OUR GOD?
[b]1Co 11:3But I want you to know that the head of every man is the Christ; in turn, the head of a woman is the man; in turn, the head of the Christ is God.
Eph 1:17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the accurate knowledge of him.
Col 1:3 [color=blue]We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,[/blue] when we pray for you,

johnw74:
More lies of course and wishful thinking from lie lie dolphinheart.

well , I hope everyone can now see that the accusations layed against me is false, and rantings will not make it true!
as long as he could not post the full text of that post for all to see and come to their own conclusion, his words would be viewed as another desperate attempt to find fault in anyway possible.

[quote author=solite3 post=47526635][/quote]God call humans Gods . according to the scriptures .
Satan is called God too - 2 cor 4:4
once again, God in what sense ? a mighty one or the supreme Being !!! answer.

brocab:
Just read {John 1:1} [size=26] this scripture spells it out pretty clearly who is the "ONE GOD"
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Of course your bible says otherwise-but as we all know, you don't know-what we know, and the Spirit of God is not in you-for you to know.

UV started your lies as usual

Show me " ONE GOD " @ john 1:1 ?

and two , who did the scripture call the ONE GOD ?

this two will expose your lies

johnw74:
solite has already explained but false jw love to lie and repeat their lies

There is only one true God, God and the Word is God as scripture shows

"humans"
and your "satan"
and your "a god"
and your "an angel"
and your two god's "an almighty god" who is your false jehovah, and a "mighty god" who is your false jesus.
are all false god's

There is one true God, not two or many





I have posted many scriptures on these things and on your other false doctrines as well, which satans disciples of course did not believe


about Jesus calling Father God read at link below, also there's much more on it if you really want to know which you don't,
but I post for the benefit of those who do want to know.

Jesus called Father God

Lolzzzzzzzz @ bold , who is the Only true God ?

solite3:
just like the pharisee always looking for signs even when the saw it didn't believe. Don't u have ur bible? Read John I: 1 is it not boldly written that the word is God?

the Word is a god , compare Act 28:6 where Paul is also called a god. though the Greek remains Theo's.

unless u can prove that act 28:6 " a god " is a wrong translation, then u have a point!

Except Satan has deceived you as he deceived eve. Yes Jesus boldly said I and my father are one and the pharisee knew what Jesus was talking about, immediately they took up stones to stone him because he was making himself equal to God. Even the devils know whom he is! But u are so blind!
U are funny sha saying it is impossible but remember with God nothing shall be impossible. Stop limiting the holy one of is real like the is realities did in the wilderness saying CAN GOD PROVIDE FOOD IN THE WILDERNESSES? Remember sin against the holy spirit there is no forgiveness.

the scripture said the Father is the God of Jesus . that's proves ur same God theory is extremely false.

infact if both are the same God , both will be equal . are they ? NO! the Father is the God of Jesus . and Jesus will be subjected to him . confirm evidence 1 cor 15:28 . this proves u false

johnw74:
solite told you that John 1:1 tells of God and the Word being God, your elders changed your Bible to sat the Word was "a god"
and you would obviously believe anything that's not the truth to support the false doctrines that they also taught you,
you are the one who cannot comprehend, false jw have this in common, they love to lie.

You have come to this thread to disrupt and take the spotlight of lie lie dolphinheart who is so entrenched in his lies that
he doesn't even know what he is saying now most of the time, that's what satan does to his followers, he is not your friend.

false jw lie so much and they support each other in their lies.

oga, your problem is " a god " right ? kindly check Act 28:6 , and prove a god in that verse is a wrong translation. then we can discuss , till then you are just making noise .

brocab:
I am not sure where you would like to start with this, and I am not sure you know either.
But by your page you really sound like a JW, you are either been taught by them, or are you a seven day Adventist?
Well lets start by finding your answers, what is your gut feeling telling you bro-how much more evidence do we need, the bible works in two ways, you either believe it {Which is Spiritual} or you don't believe it {Which is flesh}
I believe you already know the answer and maybe its either been push so far down-and it's been a long time since you really heard about the word of God-and recently the Word is knocking on your door once again-and after hearing some teachings from either the JW's your own feelings isn't the same teachings you had received before. It seems your personal knowledge is about to surface, and at this present time the teachings you are receiving is confusing what you already know. {Is this what you are asking?}
Is this why you are seeking after the truth-tell me in your own words who Jesus is to you? And we could go on from their.
If you are truly seeking the truth bro you have come to the right site, the truth will set you free.

Brocab.. Just try and lets be honest that's all.

Leave denomination here.. Am mostly concerned about the Bible. No denomination gives life, the Bible does! Or you may argue that out..
Let me rephrase( God gives life, we learnt about him from the Bible)
So. Leave out my denomination.
Let's face the Bible.

johnw74:
you say you never said "a two headed god"
Here is your full sentence, quoted exactly, copied and pasted from your post with nothing taken out and nothing added

Dolphinheart:


what a lie lie you are.

this is further evidence from Johnw74 that I did not say "a two headed god", from the evidence he provided, it is now clear that my sentence contain more than the words "a two headed god".
dubious people tend to adulterate words and sentences, either by adding to it, removing from it or misquoting it. johnw74 has done these to my words, he keeps citing evidence that show's my sentence contains far more words than the words he is accusing me of.
again I say I did not say "a two headed god", my sentence contains words that are more than that, as shown by his evidence.
remember I have said several times, that accusing me that I said "a two headed god" can only be supported by cutting off parts of my words or sentences and they can only explain my words by cutting off large parts of the full text of my post!
If you want to accuse me of something, don't cut part of my words off, don't give my words a different understanding from mine!, LEAVE MY SENTENCES THE WAY THEY ARE!

And if he could just find it in himself to quote the full text of my post that he keeps cutting off, everyone will have a better understanding of what I said. If you don't like understand my words, PLEASE DNT GIVE IT YOUR OWN UNDERSTAND, AND DNT REFUSE TO QUOTE MINE!

pls for everyone:
this is the parts of the post he responded to but deliberately cut off:
I've proven beyond reasonable doubt that I did not say "a two headed god" , the word "a two headed god" can only come about if my sentences are modified, if words where deliberately removed so that it would mean something else other than its intended meaning. notice again, for months now, he could not provide the full text ofrom that post , yet he could go to that post every time to cut parts of it off and post the modified version here!
he is desperate to find fault, but he can only do so by adulteration my words and adding false understanding to my words
Did I call god and the word a two headed god ? no , this fact he has known since May !
he has not been able to produce where I said "god and the word is a two headed god

aah, but I did, in my last post to you just for one, I will quote it again at the end of this.

okay, we shall see if you could produce where I made the sentence "god and the word is a two headed god"

because I'm noy interisted in your false doctrine about Jesus being "a god" "an angel"
I have told you and captivator that many times, but false jw loves to lie.

YOU NOT INTERESTED BECAUSE YOU REFUTE THE WORDS THEIR.

YOU CANNOT QUOTE THE FULL TEXT BUT PREFERS MAKING EFFORT EVERY TIME TO REMOVE THEM BECAUSE THEY GO A LONG WAY IN SHOWING YOUR DOCTRINES AS FALSE.

YOU CANNOT PROVIDE THE FULL TEXT CUS THEY GO A LONG WAY IN EXPLAINING MY WORDS WHICH YOU HAVE DESPERATELY TRIED TO RECONSTRUCT AND GIVE FALSE EXPLANATIONS.

Yes you was lie lie, you said: "if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."

was I talking about God and Jesus when I showed you about your god ? no
did I show you how your god does not correlate with god and Jesus ? Yes
could you refute my explanation and scriptures shown to you when I showed you the truth about God and Jesus?no
therefore, you making Jesus to be that same god is false, and when evidence was provided to you, you could not quote and explain the scriptures provided!

No end to your lies and deceiving, if you cannot see the diffrence there between your words in "these" and my words, you just show again how you have been blinded.

2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

pls everyone this is are my words he deliberately cut off:
you keep trying to drag my words into yours, must my views comform to the opening post? no!, did I refute the opening post? Yes
why can't you post the full text of my posts, ? WHYYYYYYY!
was I talking about God and Jesus when I told you about your god ? no ,remember the part you are desperately trying to omit which talked about equality .
You just said we should look at my own exact words , but the bolded above are not from me, they are words added at the beginning and middle of my words to try and give my own words a different direction and meaning. This you do while refusing to post the full text of what I posted! The tactic will not work johnw74, you accusation could not stand unless you try to give my words a different explanation from the one given by me!

everyone can go see his post in which I pointed the bad trait out for him
did he try to drag my words into his in other to try to give my own words a different meaning? Yes
he tried to do this on this thread at 1:08am on these thread when he said in the bracket below:
(then you say "there if you make Jesus to be that same God", meaning if Jesus and God is God as per John 1:1)
can you see how he had cut off my sentence then joined it with his words!, anyone reading this sentence without knowledge of what he had done and my full text which he has cut most of the words off, will probably think that is what I was saying.

Are the bolded words in his post I responded to mine? noooooo!
he was desperate to explain my words he is quoting, by adding his words in the middle, this is an attempt to give a different direction and meaning to what I said. He is desperately trying to do this, yet he would not give out the full text of the post he is cutting from!, he will not leave the words the way they are!

No lie lie I haven't done any of that to your quote, you are talking about yourself again,
and you have been blinded and cannot see where your quote ends and my words begin.

I posted your quote of what you said, showing it's clear that you were referring to God and the Word as "a two headed god". I even asked you to tell who you was referring to as "a two headed god" if you were not referring to God and the Word, and even to that simple question you cannot answer who you were referring to, because we all know, don't we lie lie.

dolphinheart you big lie lie

did I say god and the word is a two headed god? no
did I refer to god and the word as two headed god ? no
has johnw74 been able to show that I said or made a sentence" god and the word is a two headed god "? no !

when you eventually quoted part of my post (while still refusing to post the full text,) you have shown that my word's are different from the words you accuse me of saying , you have shown everyone that you could only accuse me if you try to omit, remove, add to my words , or use my words in your own sentences to give it a different meaning.

you asked me to tell you what I meant with those words, I'll be glad to, I will tell you this once you retract your false accusation, this is what you should have done first before accusing me falsely and before altering, omitING and adding to my words.
If you retract your false accusation, I'll tell you what I've been trying to tell you since.

CAPTIVATOR:
oga, your problem is " a god " right ? kindly check Act 28:6 , and prove a god in that verse is a wrong translation. then we can discuss , till then you are just making noise .

lie lie false jw captivator, your problem is "a god"
you took "God" out of John 1:1 and put in "a god"

Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Deu 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.



with your changes to john 1:1 it would read like this
in the beginning was "a god" and "a god" was with God and "a god" was "a god"
common sense alone tells one that yours is a corrupted translation

whereas God's inspired text is perfect:
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

your satan inspired changes to the Bible are pathetic

and again you don't believe God when He said your name will be taken out of the Book of life for doing such things

lie lie captivator

It won't matter how many times you call us Christians lairs, we all know the truth, and that's something you will never take away from us, but you, you believe in the JW lies of lies, and not only us Christians but the hole world knows you.
{John 1:1} In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God and the Word was God. So if this isn't telling you their is One God, then you are not reading your bible correctly, and the Spirit that is in you, isn't the Most high God. Because this information can only come to you from above-and not from below.
{John 1:18} you must explain this scripture-no-one has seen God at anytime-so if no one has seen God-then Jesus answered Philip rightly-by saying I have been with you so long and yet you have not knowing Me? He who has seen Me, has seen the Father, so how can you say show us the Father, do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me? The Words I speak to you, I do not speak on My own authority, but the Father WHO DWELLS IN "ME" DOES THE WORKS. This proves God is Spirit and the Spirit of God dwells in Jesus.
So how can you believe God and Jesus are two separate people, flesh can not enter into flesh-but the Spirit can.

CAPTIVATOR:
UV started your lies as usual

Show me " ONE GOD " @ john 1:1 ?

and two , who did the scripture call the ONE GOD ?

this two will expose your lies

CAPTIVATOR:
Lolzzzzzzzz @ bold , who is the Only true God ?

read this again
Jesus called Father God
and this time believe the scriptures given.

{Acts 28:6} Is talking about Paul, not Jesus, Paul was called a god-So how can you compare this scripture with your twisted scripture you call the Word a god

CAPTIVATOR:
oga, your problem is " a god " right ? kindly check Act 28:6 , and prove a god in that verse is a wrong translation. then we can discuss , till then you are just making noise .

lie lie dolphinheart

The same repeated lies time and time again, repeating again which was already replied to,
and you say I'm desperately trying to do this and that, ha ha just listen to yourself oh desperate one.

you lie lie dolphinheart claimed again that you did not say "a two headed god"

here is your sentence in full once more:
"it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."

you false jw said I added and removed and misquoted your sentence, when it is truly a copy and paste of your sentence as you know

lie lie dolphinheart is exactly like the father of lies
Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

It is clear you lie lie was referring to God and the Word as "a two headed god" and when I asked you who you were referring to if not God and the Word as "a two headed god" you would not answer

You said yet once again that you were not referring to God and Jesus
here it is yet once again what you said again lie lie
dolphinheart:
"it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."

But you were lie lying again, speaking naturally

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

you lie lie called that scripture false.


you a very big lie lie and deceiver false jw dolphinheart
even calling God's inspired scripture false

Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Deu 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

dolphinheart:
"it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."

you lie lie dolphinheart claimed more than once that you never said "a two headed god"

you lie lie dolphinheart claimed more than once that you was not referring to Jesus and God.

such a huge huge lie lie dolphinheart

Jesus gives life. {John 6:35, John 10:9} I am the Gate {John 10:11} I am the Shepherd. {John 14:6} I am the way and the truth and the Life, no-one comes to the Father accept through Me.
Lets leave your false JW's teachings out from the bible full stop.
Lets become born again Christians together before we start this foolish conversation, we already know you don't believe in the truth, nor in any other bible, sample the KJ's, Don't try and reason with me, facing the bible is something you refuse greatly.
If you can't come up with the answers then why try and reason with a Christian who can?

tempem:
Brocab.. Just try and lets be honest that's all.

Leave denomination here.. Am mostly concerned about the Bible. No denomination gives life, the Bible does! Or you may argue that out..
Let me rephrase( God gives life, we learnt about him from the Bible)
So. Leave out my denomination.
Let's face the Bible.

dolphinheart:
pls for everyone:

pls everyone

lie lie dolphinheart

you are concerned about everyone's view of you

you do not want everyone to see you as the liar that you are
because you are a deceiver, a wolf in sheeps clothing

but it's to late lie lie, your disguise was exposed long ago
your lies are so obvious, but take heart your fellow false jw captivator supports you in your lies


when satan speaks a lie he is speaking naturally
so to his followers-children-disciples

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brocab:
{Acts 28:6} Is talking about Paul, not Jesus, Paul was called a god-So how can you compare this scripture with your twisted scripture you call the Word a god

if the translators are right to insert " a god " @ Act 28:6, then u have no point anymore ! that means there is nothing wrong with the translation " a god " . neither Jesus nor Paul is the Most High God .

johnw74:
read this again
Jesus called Father God
and this time believe the scriptures given.

well, do u agree with the scriptures that the only true God is Jehovah, the Father and God of Jesus Christ ? John 17:3

brocab:
It won't matter how many times you call us Christians lairs, we all know the truth, and that's something you will never take away from us, but you, you believe in the JW lies of lies, and not only us Christians but the hole world knows you.
{John 1:1} In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God and the Word was God. So if this isn't telling you their is One God, then you are not reading your bible correctly, and the Spirit that is in you, isn't the Most high God. Because this information can only come to you from above-and not from below.
{John 1:18} you must explain this scripture-no-one has seen God at anytime-so if no one has seen God-then Jesus answered Philip rightly-by saying I have been with you so long and yet you have not knowing Me? He who has seen Me, has seen the Father, so how can you say show us the Father, do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me? The Words I speak to you, I do not speak on My own authority, but the Father WHO DWELLS IN "ME" DOES THE WORKS. This proves God is Spirit and the Spirit of God dwells in Jesus.
So how can you believe God and Jesus are two separate people, flesh can not enter into flesh-but the Spirit can.

Before u go offside, nobody dispute that there is One God , but the question is , who is the One God according to the scriptures ! 1 Cor 8:6 " for US, there is one God the Father " not two persons in one , so are u among the "US" ?

So how about you shedding a little light on the subject and letting us know who the One God is? And what is His other name, besides Immanuel. It's about time you JW's do the answering so the world will know who you are.

CAPTIVATOR:
Before u go offside, nobody dispute that there is One God , but the question is , who is the One God according to the scriptures ! 1 Cor 8:6 " for US, there is one God the Father " not two persons in one , so are u among the "US" ?

CAPTIVATOR:
if the translators are right to insert " a god " @ Act 28:6, then u have no point anymore ! that means there is nothing wrong with the translation " a god " . neither Jesus nor Paul is the Most High God .

brocab is right and you haven't a clue

If the Word is "a god"
then wouldn't you have to be a bit on the moronic side to say

in the beginning was the Word (a god) and the word (a god) was with God and the Word (a god) was a God

a god was a god, duh lie lie captivator, you wrong
in the beginning a god was with God, duh lie lie captivator, you wrong

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

John 1:1 tells us that the Word is God
Gen 1:1 tells us that God created the Heavens and the Earth
John 1:3 tells us that it is the Word that created everything

false jw captivator as good as say's: No the Bible lies, "a god" is the word, "a god" created all there is

captivator is a big lie lie

CAPTIVATOR:
well, do u agree with the scriptures that the only true God is Jehovah, the Father and God of Jesus Christ ? John 17:3

false jw captivator

The Father is the only true God, so is the Son, they are two persons and one God,

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

You don't believe the Bible and change what it says, and so you couldn't possibly understand
you hate the truth and so God has allowed satan to blind you, and doesn't it show

2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Christ is the image of the Father, exactly the same, and false jw blaspheme Christ who died for our sins calling Him "a god"
"a god" died for the sins of the World say antichrist jw

Lie lie dolphinheart and false jw captivator,
here is another short article clearly showing that Jesus is God

You false jw's won't believe it, but I like to show how you are nearly always wrong, and for truth seekers and Christians to see it.



Question: "Is Jesus God? Did Jesus ever claim to be God?"

Answer: The Bible never records Jesus saying the precise words, “I am God.” That does not mean, however, that He did not proclaim that He is God. Take for example Jesus’ words in John 10:30, “I and the Father are one.” We need only to look at the Jews’ reaction to His statement to know He was claiming to be God. They tried to stone Him for this very reason: “You, a mere man, claim to be God” (John 10:33). The Jews understood exactly what Jesus was claiming—deity. When Jesus declared, “I and the Father are one,” He was saying that He and the Father are of one nature and essence. John 8:58 is another example. Jesus declared, “I tell you the truth … before Abraham was born, I am!” Jews who heard this statement responded by taking up stones to kill Him for blasphemy, as the Mosaic Law commanded (Leviticus 24:16).


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John reiterates the concept of Jesus’ deity: “The Word [Jesus] was God” and “the Word became flesh” (John 1:1, 14). These verses clearly indicate that Jesus is God in the flesh. Acts 20:28 tells us, “Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.” Who bought the church with His own blood? Jesus Christ. And this same verse declares that God purchased His church with His own blood. Therefore, Jesus is God!

Thomas the disciple declared concerning Jesus, “My Lord and my God” (John 20:28). Jesus does not correct him. Titus 2:13 encourages us to wait for the coming of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ (see also 2 Peter 1:1). In Hebrews 1:8, the Father declares of Jesus, “But about the Son he says, ‘Your throne, O God, will last forever and ever, and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom.’” The Father refers to Jesus as “O God,” indicating that Jesus is indeed God.

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In Revelation, an angel instructed the apostle John to only worship God (Revelation 19:10). Several times in Scripture Jesus receives worship (Matthew 2:11; 14:33; 28:9, 17; Luke 24:52; John 9:38). He never rebukes people for worshiping Him. If Jesus were not God, He would have told people to not worship Him, just as the angel in Revelation did. There are many other passages of Scripture that argue for Jesus’ deity.

The most important reason that Jesus has to be God is that, if He is not God, His death would not have been sufficient to pay the penalty for the sins of the world (1 John 2:2). A created being, which Jesus would be if He were not God, could not pay the infinite penalty required for sin against an infinite God. Only God could pay such an infinite penalty. Only God could take on the sins of the world (2 Corinthians 5:21), die, and be resurrected, proving His victory over sin and death.

Acts 20:28 tells us, “Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.” Who bought the church with His own blood? Jesus Christ. And this same verse declares that God purchased His church with His own blood.

Very telling isn't it,
along with all the other verses showing that Jesus is God,
only antichrists would not believe those Bible verses.


1Jn_2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

antichrist jw do not acknowledge the Son, they say he is "a god"
they have not the Father also.

Their god is the father of lies, and doesn't it show

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

johnw74:
lie lie dolphinheart

The same repeated lies time and time again, repeating again which was already replied to,
and you say I'm desperately trying to do this and that, ha ha just listen to yourself oh desperate one.

you lie lie dolphinheart claimed again that you did not say "a two headed god"

did I say "a two headed god"? no! such words can only be supported if my words are being modified and my sentence being adjusted by cutting off or adding words to my sentence.
prove is shown below again(though he now adds more of my words , he refuses to post the full text, preferring to keep cutting my views that lead to my words off)

here is your sentence in full once more:
"it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."

you false jw said I added and removed and misquoted your sentence, when it is truly a copy and paste of your sentence as you know

does my sentence just say "a two headed god"? no , it says more than that, (as shown in your post above)pls stop removing from my sentences when you mention them okay.

lie lie dolphinheart is exactly like the father of lies
Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

It is clear you lie lie was referring to God and the Word as "a two headed god" and when I asked you who you were referring to if not God and the Word as "a two headed god" you would not answer

You said yet once again that you were not referring to God and Jesus
here it is yet once again what you said again lie lie
dolphinheart:
"it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."

But you were lie lying again, speaking naturally

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

you lie lie called that scripture false.


you a very big lie lie and deceiver false jw dolphinheart
even calling God's inspired scripture false

Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Deu 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

dolphinheart:
"it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."

you lie lie dolphinheart claimed more than once that you never said "a two headed god"

you lie lie dolphinheart claimed more than once that you was not referring to Jesus and God.

such a huge huge lie lie dolphinheart

it's a shame you could not post the full text of my post, you keep cutting parts of that post off so you could explain my words for me, while refusing to leave my own post in full and the way they are so the world can see you the way you really are!
If you are so confident of your accusation , why can't you just post the full text of that post you have been modifying for months now!

It's a bigger shame that up till now, you could not show us your response to my explanations on the scriptures you quoted

johnw74:
lie lie dolphinheart

you are concerned about everyone's view of you

you do not want everyone to see you as the liar that you are
because you are a deceiver, a wolf in sheeps clothing

but it's to late lie lie, your disguise was exposed long ago
your lies are so obvious, but take heart your fellow false jw captivator supports you in your lies


when satan speaks a lie he is speaking naturally
so to his followers-children-disciples

JOHNW74, IF YOU AT ANYTIME CUT PART OF MY POSTS OFF AGAIN WHEN QUOTING ME SO AS TO PROPA GATE YOUR WARPED WAY OF RESPONDING , I WILL FORCED TO RESPOND IN A CORRECTIONAL MANNER!

pls pls pls, don't cut parts of my post off! don't modify my words and dnt give my words your own warped explanations while removing , omitting , cutting off mine. pls pls pls, for the last time I beg you! stop using those bad traits!

johnw74:
Lie lie dolphinheart and false jw captivator,
here is another short article clearly showing that Jesus is God

You false jw's won't believe it, but I like to show how you are nearly always wrong, and for truth seekers and Christians to see it.



Question: "Is Jesus God? Did Jesus ever claim to be God?"

Answer: The Bible never records Jesus saying the precise words, “I am God.” That does not mean, however, that He did not proclaim that He is God. Take for example Jesus’ words in John 10:30, “I and the Father are one.” We need only to look at the Jews’ reaction to His statement to know He was claiming to be God. They tried to stone Him for this very reason: “You, a mere man, claim to be God” (John 10:33). The Jews understood exactly what Jesus was claiming—deity. When Jesus declared, “I and the Father are one,” He was saying that He and the Father are of one nature and essence. John 8:58 is another example. Jesus declared, “I tell you the truth … before Abraham was born, I am!” Jews who heard this statement responded by taking up stones to kill Him for blasphemy, as the Mosaic Law commanded (Leviticus 24:16).


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did Jesus claim to be god ? no
when he asked his disciples who he is, what did the disciples say? you are son of the living god! they said.

do the Jews believe in Jesus ? no
so it it right to view reaction of the Jews who don't believe in Jesus as the basis for believing that Jesus said he is god? no
did Jesus he and the father are of one nature and essence? no
did Jesus say his disciples will become one with him? Yes
does this mean they will become Jesus? no
did they want to stone Jesus cus he said he was god? no
did they want to stone Jesus cus he indicated he was older and existed before Abraham? Yes
did the Jews think Jesus is less than 50 years old and thus he did not exist before Abraham? Yes

THIS THRUTHS AS STATED ABOVE CANNOT BE REFUTED!

Here's something you JW's should answer-did Jesus ever say He is Michael the Archangel? No
Did Jesus ever freely call Himself the Son of God, without Him quoting scripture to save Himself from the Jews from stoning Him
{John 10:34} Jesus answered them, It is written in your law, I have said you are gods.
Jesus quoted the Psalms so the Jews couldn't stone Him, because it is written in their law {Psalms 82:6} "I said "You are gods, you are sons of the Most high..
Jesus knew by calling Himself the Son of God, He wasn't breaking the Law.
Jesus referred to Himself as the Son of Man.