BetaThings:


As a muslim, I am disappointed in your comments
Most of the people in the North are insane
Look, a Muslim does not take sides in a strange story when he does not have facts

People can gather any day they like to worship; people arrogating a day to themselves is senseless
Muslims assemble on Sundays now to worship, do dhikr, listen to lectures

The above make this story strange. I would like to have the facts before I join in the discussion
I have seen photos from East Africa used to support a Nigerian story
Surah Hujurat (Qur'an 49) enjoins us to verify before taking position

brother, av u been to d north b4, this set of people even called muslim from south west as fake.

Ayatullah:
[b]THE TRUTH is that 'Thisday' Newspaper did a one sided story lacking investigative journalism.

Another TRUTH is that the Catholic Church is not new in the area so also is the Mosque Ground where the alleged attackers came from.

Another TRUTH is that the Catholic Church should have known that Friday is a serious Prayer Day for the Muslims who pray in peace in their thousands led solemnly by one Imam and need no disturbance.

Another TRUTH is that the Muslims despite praying in their thousands outside does not generate any disturbing noise.

Another TRUTH is that Christians so much love the microphone and loudspeakers that they make so much noise even when they are gathered in very few number.

The final TRUTH is that the Christians must have made a disturbing, loudspeakers assisted noise full of heresies while the Muslims were praying which must have led to the Catholic Church being raided by the Brave Muslims.

(I expect a ban for saying the truth)[/b]

If your neighbou's generator disturbs you do you destroy the generator or you talk to him.
Allah is an idol so anybody who tries to set is captives free, he tries to kill them. Jesus gave his life for his followers, Your Allah is asking you to give him blood then who is God between this two.

so we cant worship on fridays...muslims we try to maintain peace with u guyz bt to no avail..we wl not attack bt our God shall fight on our behalf

Only in Africa thinhs like this happen.terrible act

Only in Africa things like this happen.i wonder why people can't just respect other peoples religion.funny thing is that this matter would be swept under the rug by authorities.terrible act

Ak47young:
Am not saying what they did is right but holding prayer meeting by 2pm on Friday exactly the same time for juma a. Maybe they were disturbing with noise but this could have been solved maturely with dialogue

What are you saying? Here in Lagos, Muslims dress up and chant in their mosques on Sundays and nobody has challenged them. You people are just intolerant and feel unsecured in your religion.

cekhoe:
And even the ones that claim to practice a peaceful Islam didn't find the decency to condemn this act, instead they are defensive and making excuses. Now it is certain, all Muslims are the same, anywhere in the world,the ones that haven't been violent yet are just waiting for the opportunity. Islam the religion of pissful people

Nobody is defending and making excuses
But there is so much propaganda these days

It has to be condemned if true but somehow I don't think I am reading all the facts
No matter what you have been led to believe, it had better not be true because it is very very dangerous

When Assembles of God Church members fought themselves and even mistakenly threw stones at Muslims in Saminaka last week without any provocation, did you recognise the deed as peaceful or was it a claim?
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/07/20-injured-houses-razed-assemblies-god-factions-clash-kaduna/

“The most frightening thing was that the stones they were throwing were also falling into Hausa Muslims homes. If these people had reacted, I don’t know what Saminaka would have been today.“

There is no one who is sane that will not condemn what happened in France yesterday
But this story is strange

Let me remind you that Muslims in UI mosque were once the victims of a blasphemous act by a Christian girl who dressed in hijab and joined the congregation and when prayer was on, and the entire mosque was quiet, started abusing Islam etc

Did you think those muslims would support what is being reported here?
Do you think they would not consider it strange?

Ayatullah:
[b]THE TRUTH is that 'Thisday' Newspaper did a one sided story lacking investigative journalism.

Another TRUTH is that the Catholic Church is not new in the area so also is the Mosque Ground where the alleged attackers came from.

Another TRUTH is that the Catholic Church should have known that Friday is a serious Prayer Day for the Muslims who pray in peace in their thousands led solemnly by one Imam and need no disturbance.

Another TRUTH is that the Muslims despite praying in their thousands outside does not generate any disturbing noise.

Another TRUTH is that Christians so much love the microphone and loudspeakers that they make so much noise even when they are gathered in very few number.

The final TRUTH is that the Christians must have made a disturbing, loudspeakers assisted noise full of heresies while the Muslims were praying which must have led to the Catholic Church being raided by the Brave Muslims.

(I expect a ban for saying the truth)[/b]

Ha.. another islamic fundamentalist. The woman in kano, the preacher in abuja, they were disturbing your religion right? hence you had to silence them.I will keep asking, if I blaspheme ur god, why is he so powerless that you foot soldiers have to do the fighting? weaklings you only know how to murder..to rape and to do forceful conversion. isn't nigeria suppose to be a secular state btw. its futile to even discuss with ur kind. if not for fear of being banned, I for finish you here. enjoy your pork meat bro.

Ayatullah:
[b]THE TRUTH is that 'Thisday' Newspaper did a one sided story lacking investigative journalism.

Another TRUTH is that the Catholic Church is not new in the area so also is the Mosque Ground where the alleged attackers came from.

Another TRUTH is that the Catholic Church should have known that Friday is a serious Prayer Day for the Muslims who pray in peace in their thousands led solemnly by one Imam and need no disturbance.

Another TRUTH is that the Muslims despite praying in their thousands outside does not generate any disturbing noise.

Another TRUTH is that Christians so much love the microphone and loudspeakers that they make so much noise even when they are gathered in very few number.

The final TRUTH is that the Christians must have made a disturbing, loudspeakers assisted noise full of heresies while the Muslims were praying which must have led to the Catholic Church being raided by the Brave Muslims.

(I expect a ban for saying the truth)[/b]

I know you crave attention. I'll give it to you.

It is impossible for a thousand Muslim's to pray without microphone, even 5 do. That is the only arguable and counter-able point you raised, every other thing you said either revolves around it or is outright trash, thank you.

aubventure:

If your neighbou's generator disturbs you do you destroy the generator or you talk to him.
Allah is an idol so anybody who tries to set is captives free, he tries to kill them. Jesus gave his life for his followers, Your Allah is asking you to give him blood then who is God between this two.

You will get a response when you become capable of civil discussion
We recognise that as a Christian you can say ANYTHING

WindUpMerchant:
Ha.. another islamic fundamentalist. The woman in kano, the preacher in abuja, they were disturbing your religion right? hence you had to silence them.I will keep asking, if I blaspheme ur god, why is he so powerless that you foot soldiers have to do the fighting? weaklings you only know how to murder..to rape and to do forceful conversion. isn't nigeria suppose to be a secular state btw. its futile to even discuss with ur kind. if not for fear of being banned, I for finish you here. enjoy your pork meat bro.

Why did bishop Oyedepo slap in his church?

Tell us about Christian fundamentalism
Go and read the mission statement of Pastor Bakare's church

The multicolored crap written up here and called truth is a shame on the writer and the rubbish called Islam,
The religion has become absolute worst thing ever to happen to humans, if you serve a living God why kill and defend him.

Any way of life that does not accommodate others is cultism, traditional worship won't decend as low as Islam has become in recent times.

No peace in any Muslim country, they are divided and want Fools like them to multiply.

Any activity that does not project restrain is not needed in the company of humans.

Ayatullah:
[b]THE TRUTH is that 'Thisday' Newspaper did a one sided story lacking investigative journalism.

Another TRUTH is that the Catholic Church is not new in the area so also is the Mosque Ground where the alleged attackers came from.

Another TRUTH is that the Catholic Church should have known that Friday is a serious Prayer Day for the Muslims who pray in peace in their thousands led solemnly by one Imam and need no disturbance.

Another TRUTH is that the Muslims despite praying in their thousands outside does not generate any disturbing noise.

Another TRUTH is that Christians so much love the microphone and loudspeakers that they make so much noise even when they are gathered in very few number.

The final TRUTH is that the Christians must have made a disturbing, loudspeakers assisted noise full of heresies while the Muslims were praying which must have led to the Catholic Church being raided by the Brave Muslims.

(I expect a ban for saying the truth)[/b]

You're a terrorist.

Am gradually developing hatred for this clueless old fanatics called Buhari.His islamization agenda has started.The christian leaders are busy collecting tithes.This gruesome murder will continue unless we christians rise up and retaliate.

Ak47young:
Am not saying what they did is right but holding prayer meeting by 2pm on Friday exactly the same time for juma a. Maybe they were disturbing with noise but this could have been solved maturely with dialogue

Disturbing with noise in a Catholic Church?
That can never happen. You rarely see any speaker outside the walls of the church

BetaThings:


Nobody is defending and making excuses
But there is so much propaganda these days

It has to be condemned if true but somehow I don't think I am reading all the facts
No matter what you have been led to believe, it had better not be true because it is very very dangerous

When Assembles of God Church members fought themselves and even mistakenly threw stones at Muslims in Saminaka last week without any provocation, did you recognise the deed as peaceful or was it a claim?
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/07/20-injured-houses-razed-assemblies-god-factions-clash-kaduna/



There is no one who is sane that will not condemn what happened in France yesterday
But this story is strange

Let me remind you that Muslims in UI mosque were once the victims of a blasphemous act by a Christian girl who dressed in hijab and joined the congregation and when prayer was on, and the entire mosque was quiet, started abusing Islam etc

Did you think those muslims would support what is being reported here?
Do you think they would not consider it strange?

These are few instances which you keep on repeating thread after thread as "theoretical evidences of Muslims being peaceful ". Those stones were not meant for the Muslims and you all know it.

As for the UI girl, she went too far and acted in a provocative manner and was subsequently sanctioned by the school. She should thank her God that fatwa was not declared on her, though the imras and ulimas held several meetings because of that singular incident. Kudos to UI muslimas as at that time but if it were in ABU Zaria, she could not have survived it.

Give us other instances please

Lexxyla:


Disturbing with noise in a Catholic Church?
That can never happen. You rarely see any speaker outside the walls of the church

I wonder oooh

Owodiran1:
Bro am done here. If you don't understand my argument. No problem. Ok those in kenya that will tell their worshippers to be eating grass or similar case like that. Are you going to blame it on christainity or the gullibility of those who chose to eat grass. Bro let's drop our prejudice. All religions are religion of peace. It's the people that are not peaceful

lol now see the difference, eating grass would have been called a christian thing if christians in various countries ate grasses. But you mentioned something that happened in a church in south africa to compare it with religious violence that every muslim country has witnessed or is witnessing one form of violent jihad or the other. Muslims love to subjugated other religions because they believe only theirs should be worthy of existence. What's islam without muslims? Did the religion spread itself? It was muslims that carried out waves of jihad and preaching to spread it, its muslims that build mosques, its muslims that print qurans its muslims that burn churches, intimidate other religions all in the name of entrenching the might of islam.

Berlyn:
[size=15pt] All hail islam the only religion of peace and truth .... [/size]

u must be crazy

BetaThings:


Why did bishop Oyedepo slap in his church?

Tell us about Christian fundamentalism
Go and read the mission statement of Pastor Bakare's church

Give us Bakare's mission statement here and let's diagnose it here.

As for Oyedepo, he slapped (as alleged by you ) but did not kill. Even as that, he was wrong to have done that. After all, Christ restored the ear cut off by one of disciples even in the face of death.

abimic:
Funny enough, a female Catholic once told me that she can't go to any other church aside Catholic that other churches are hypocrites, that if she leaves Catholic church, she would like to be Muslim next, that she prefers being Muslim after catholic! I didn't even bother need convince her, i knew that one was possessed already, as what she was saying wasn't making sense with realities on ground.

The truth is no sane "born-again Christian" will ditch Christianity for a religion that preaches killing (Jihad (Holy War)) !!!

Toeyoursea:
There are three sides to every story ;
Your side

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Their side

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The truth


ALLAH KNOWS BEST.

And which side of the story exactly will warrant the wantom destruction of properties and maiming of lives?
If the reverse has been the case and this Church had been the one provoked,would they have attacked a Mosque?
The truth is for every time an Islamist renders havoc and destruction in his wake there's always a justification in his mind for such atrocities and there in lies the problem with Islam..

I thought this evil act have ended in Nigeria?

Which one is this renewed destruction again?

Please our Muslims should be called to order.

Some set of Nigerians are stupid even if you want to show ur terrorist act why cant you do it against the bad government and people in nigeria

Muslims youth how long shall u continue to be brain washed and let dis so call ur leaders deceive u hmm Una leaders Abi na elders go dey send dere pickin abroad to go beta skol Una go do mumu dey follow Una elders dey destiny properties how many of dese Una every children dey follow Una do all dis nonsense just some dayz back Una oga at d top pickin dey graduate from beta skol Una dey her dey cause trouble abeg u Guyz should think for ur self for once oo,,, make Una try get sense leave xhristain alone oo,, haba,,

aubventure:

You mean what those guys did is peace? Then if it is peace let such peace follow and fill your family and your generations to come. Amin

where's your sense of humor, i'm nt even a muslim Nd i'm not in support of whatever havoc done by them

Ak47young:
Am not saying what they did is right but holding prayer meeting by 2pm on Friday exactly the same time for juma a. Maybe they were disturbing with noise but this could have been solved maturely with dialogue

The last time I check freedom of worship is one of the fundamentaly human right so you can't tell us that the noise from the church is a distraction to them. That is not even an excuse...



Thank you..

Tunagee:


u are obviously a big fool

mynd44 please put this guy where he belongs

Tunagee u lost ur sense of humor i guess

Owodiran1:
It's so heartbreaking to see this news. But not withstanding you don't have the go ahead to insult any religion. Those youths who are destroying churches. It's not the religion choice. It's their choice. Don't judge people by their religion. Judge them by their behavior. Have not seen it in the Qur'an where it's been said that muslims should vandalize non muslim property. The way we understand holybook differs. Am a Muslim. And i being a 100% recognize anobi isa (Jesus Christ in my life). In short words please don't let us abuse any religion due to what is happening. All religions are religion of peace. It depends on how we view it. May God be with us and keep teaching us what to. Regardless my religion. I love every one. I will rather abuse your personality than abuse your religion

woow!!! Very nice post. Indeed You have a great foresight!

This is sad we r one nigeria....boya we shld either b either. Muslims @ a whole or christians as a whole

Ayatullah:
[b]THE TRUTH is that 'Thisday' Newspaper did a one sided story lacking investigative journalism.

Another TRUTH is that the Catholic Church is not new in the area so also is the Mosque Ground where the alleged attackers came from.

Another TRUTH is that the Catholic Church should have known that Friday is a serious Prayer Day for the Muslims who pray in peace in their thousands led solemnly by one Imam and need no disturbance.

Another TRUTH is that the Muslims despite praying in their thousands outside does not generate any disturbing noise.

Another TRUTH is that Christians so much love the microphone and loudspeakers that they make so much noise even when they are gathered in very few number.

The final TRUTH is that the Christians must have made a disturbing, loudspeakers assisted noise full of heresies while the Muslims were praying which must have led to the Catholic Church being raided by the Brave Muslims.

(I expect a ban for saying the truth)[/b]

The family mosque adjacent to my home uses loudspeakers and so do all other masjid abi mosques.
Here in Lagos, Muslims spend the day in mosques while Sunday service is on and keep on chanting in the loudspeakers just to distract Christians but nobody cares.

Did you call them "brave Muslims ?"They are brave indeed because they are doing the bidding of Mohammed and you won't get a ban on this because both Seun and Lala appear to be Muslims.

obialinaeze:
The Hadith:

1. Hadith 1:13-- " I have been ordered by Allah to fight with people till

they bear testimony to the fact that there is no God but Allah."

2. Hadith 1.24 "Narrated Ibn `Umar: Allah's Apostle said: "I have been

ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that

none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad

is Allah's Apostle, and offer the prayers"

3. Hadith 1.25"Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle was asked,

" What is the best deed ?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His

Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked, "What is the next

(in goodness)? He replied, " To participate in Jihad (religious

fighting ) in Allah's Cause."

4. Hadith 19:4294 " Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a

holy war ."

5. Hadith 1:35 "The person who participates in Allah's cause (namely,

in battle). . will be recompensed by Allah either with reward or booty

or will be admitted to Paradise ."

6. Hadith 9:4 " Wherever you find infidels kill them; for whoever kills

them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection ."

7. Hadith 9:50, 57 "No Umma (a member of Muslim community)

should be killed for killing a Kafir (an infidel). . Whoever changes his

Islamic religion, kill him ."

8. Sahih Muslim 4363: "You (the Jews) should know that the earth

belongs to Allah and His Apostle and I wish to expel you from this

land (Arabia)

9. Sahih Muslim 4366 Narrated by Umar ibn al-Khattab. Umar heard

the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) say: I will expel the

Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave

any but Muslims