justcool:


Hi Anna,
Amen! Thanks for your kind wishes. My warmest regards!



Thanks a lot mnwankwo, for your good volition. A big Amen to your prayer for my son. Remain blessed.



Amen! Thanks so much! I'm really touched by your kind words.



@All I was deeply touched by your prayers and good wishes, hence I decide to log in and thank you all. Like I said earlier, I will return as soon as my new boss allows me. I'm filled with joy and gratitude for being allowed to give a physical body to the baby and also for being allowed to take care for him. He is bubbling, getting stronger everyday.

@justcool
I too have just stumbled on your posts on Nairaland just recently and it has been joyfully enlightening reading the various conversations between you and the others ( speer,nwankwo et all ).Had to sign up just so I can follow the various threads. Congratulations on your new born and I wish him strength, wisdom and love.

justcool:

@Justcool
Please if you can, would you share your perception on Movies and TV programs like thrillers, drama etc. Do you think they hinder mankinds progress in some way or do you think they have no adverse effects whatsoever?

Thanks in advance for your response.

mnwankwo:

justcool:

@mnwankwo @justcool

Please this is a question I would like some guidance on if times permits you.

How does one understand his/her true volition? Reason for this question being on a daily basis one sends out various thoughts, probably good and bad or should I say right or wrong. On realizing a particular thought which one feels might have been a wrong way to think and chooses to correct such a thought, does true volition play a role here on the reciprocal effect of such a thought? It is my perception that volition is of the spirit and corresponds with the true nature of ones spirit at a particular time, so this as you can see has prompted me to ask this question as to how one can understand his inner self and true volition in comparison to a thought that just appears in his mind for a split second and then he/she realizes that thought was wrong and truly wishes to change such a thought.

Thank You

Where do I get the 1931 edition to buy?

.@justcool Where can I get the 1931 edition to buy?

@justcool
As a cross bearer what is your take about Noah's Ark? I'll want you to throw light on it.

kenel:
Where do I get the 1931 edition to buy?

You can get it free of charge on the internet as PDF ebook.

If you want a hard copy, it can also be bought online, depending on where you live.

Although it can be said that there are versions that are better than others, the truth transcends the writings of any book and can be perceived with the heart.

Greetings.

Hi. please, can I get the address and phone contact of your worship centre @ Apo, Abuja FCT. Thanks

.

Hello Justcool et all. I have being following your posts and comments on this social medium and I must say that I have being learning from them. I came across The Grail Message sometimes in 2007/2008 in a radio program (Ray Power Fm Abuja). But before then I have had this conviction that there should be more to life than we are living it and religion than we are practicing it. Apparently, I have made up my mind to detach myself from religion and popular believes and seek God my Creator directly and personally. I want to be close to you people as I journey through spiritual salvation and inner peace. I sent an email to Justcool but I don't understand what the platform is saying. Pls ignore every mistake on my posting/comment, this is my first time. Thanks all.

Very well written @shinelight,
I am not a cross bearer, but I have read all three volumes of the Grail message and I can say that it reshaped my thinking and has been like a light on my path as I live my life and navigate God's creation. I've spent some time reading through this thread which I didn't know existed and all I can say is that some of the comments here are unfortunate. I encourage everyone to read and examine the work or keep silent. Don't tear down what you do not know about. You only end up burdening yourselves by so doing. I also encourage true seekers of the truth to take up this work and examine it for yourself. Abd- ru- shin the bringer of the message himself warned against occult practices. Neither He nor the message he brought encourages a new religion or sect. The Book addresses the Human Spirit and not a church, religion or sect. For me; my reading and examining the work was the most personal experience I've ever had. It spoke to me personally. It's a personal thing, and that's how I believe the work should be examined. Where you haven't besteered yourself to examine it for yourself, please don't condemn. You have no personal opinion of it, so what exactly is your condemnation built on? What makes you different from those who conspired against and killed Jesus Christ?

Coming to the lifestyle of a cross bearer (esoteric or not). - this again is laughable. Its a personal thing how one chooses to live his or her life. After I read the message, my long held opinion that man should live his life simply and make his 'burden light' was further reinforced. Does living simply constitute an esoteric lifestyle? Why do Human Beings castigate anything that does not conform with their norms? Even when these so called norms have proven over time that they are not best practice. It's a pity.

Finally, I would say again that where you have not examined the work In the Light Of Truth' do not castigate or judge the work. Because your judgement is founded on nothing. I dare say that you have no judgement on anything. You just hold on to dogma and what you were told and you have no appetite to examine anything for yourself and form your own opinion. You can continue in your spiritual slumber but don't constitute an obstacle to those who have an inner longer for the Truth who may want to examine the work.

Shalom!

shinealight:


Well, I believe that nobody on earth, past or present, is in a position to know the Will of God better than the Trigon of Abd-ru-shin, Maria and Irmingard. I therefore think a little humility and modesty is called for when discussing these matters!

Further on in the quotation I cited earlier, Abd-ru-shin himself reportedly stated as follows:

"....Since I cannot therefore bind myself to the associations, while indeed recognising their beneficial result for many an individual, I created out of the necessity for me to remain alone 'Der Ruf' as mediator between all readers and associations. In it they are given the opportunity to exchange information and wishes. Space will always be kept available for these purposes free of charge. May 'Der Ruf' awaken many souls, bring enlightenment, and with it peace and progress, to all serious seekers!"

If Abd-ru-shin himself stated that he recognised the beneficial result of the Associations for many an individual, then who are we to say it is contrary to the Will of God? Are we in a position know the Will of God better than him?

Of course, you are quite right in saying that the Grail Message stands on its own. There is no question about that whatsoever. One who accepts the Grail Message as the Word of Truth does not have to be a part of the Grail Movement.
The Grail Acts were instituted by Abd-ru-shin himself while on earth. The Disciples/Apostles and other Called Ones are spiritually chosen to mediate the 'Power' to those who ask for it. Note that I said 'spiritually chosen' not appointed or elected by men on the basis of erudition or being scholarly brilliant. Again no-one is compelled to recognise or accept those who have been so chosen to mediate this Power. Everyone is free to go his/her own way as s/he pleases.

The possibility of participating in Grail Acts, joining others in a co-ordinated effort in the Spread of the Message and affording Crossbearers the opportunity of interaction and mutual exchange of perceptions are the activities that those who choose to be part of the 'Grail Movement' undertake to do. Joining the Grail Movement is not an avowal of the Grail Message. Indeed there are many who have embraced the Message but are not part of any Grail Movement but that is not to say that the Movement does not have its beneficial aspects or that it is against the Will of God.

Again, the short-comings and character faults of men which manifest in vanity, conceit or inordinate ambition to be famous or to be well-regarded among peers, etc are a universal occurrence in all human endeavours and interactions. This cannot and should not be allowed to prevent/abort a serious volition from being transformed into deed. To allow this is to give victory to the Darkness and its minions who never wish for anything good or noble to take root and blossom.
Regards and stay blessed.

#longing (forgive my typo)

zimams:
Very well written @shinelight,
I am not a cross bearer, but I have read all three volumes of the Grail message and I can say that it reshaped my thinking and has been like a light on my path as I live my life and navigate God's creation. I've spent some time reading through this thread which I didn't know existed and all I can say is that some of the comments here are unfortunate. I encourage everyone to read and examine the work or keep silent. Don't tear down what you do not know about. You only end up burdening yourselves by so doing. I also encourage true seekers of the truth to take up this work and examine it for yourself. Abd- ru- shin the bringer of the message himself warned against occult practices. Neither He nor the message he brought encourages a new religion or sect. The Book addresses the Human Spirit and not a church, religion or sect. For me; my reading and examining the work was the most personal experience I've ever had. It spoke to me personally. It's a personal thing, and that's how I believe the work should be examined. Where you haven't besteered yourself to examine it for yourself, please don't condemn. You have no personal opinion of it, so what exactly is your condemnation built on? What makes you different from those who conspired against and killed Jesus Christ?

Coming to the lifestyle of a cross bearer (esoteric or not). - this again is laughable. Its a personal thing how one chooses to live his or her life. After I read the message, my long held opinion that man should live his life simply and make his 'burden light' was further reinforced. Does living simply constitute an esoteric lifestyle? Why do Human Beings castigate anything that does not conform with their norms? Even when these so called norms have proven over time that they are not best practice. It's a pity.

Finally, I would say again that where you have not examined the work In the Light Of Truth' do not castigate or judge the work. Because your judgement is founded on nothing. I dare say that you have no judgement on anything. You just hold on to dogma and what you were told and you have no appetite to examine anything for yourself and form your own opinion. You can continue in your spiritual slumber but don't constitute an obstacle to those who have an inner longer for the Truth who may want to examine the work.

Shalom!

[/quote]Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by kenel: 9:40pm On Jul 25, 2016
Where do I get the 1931 edition to buy?
Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by kenel: 9:43pm On Jul 25, 2016
.@justcool Where can I get the 1931 edition to buy?

The Word of the Lord stands above everything. As he has set It forth in the Message, thus must it remain. Nothing of it may be altered. The final edition alone is valid. Earlier versions were meant for the time when the LORD was still sojourning with us and there was hope that everything would yet change. The LORD Himself recognised that this hope would not materialize; therefore He – only He could do it – has given His Work that form which we possess today.

Therefore these earlier writings are no longer to be spread. They are to be preserved on the Mountain as a legacy.

Those who ever again quote words and statements of the LORD ought to realize the dangers arising for themselves and those to whom they speak of them irrespective of the uncertainty whether these utterances were as they are being recounted. Remember they were meant for those to whom they were made. Not for those who hear them today. Remember the warnings in the lecture: “Christ said”. The Word of the Message alone is authoritative for all. In it the LORD said how man should be, and how he must live.

The Festivals are the high points in the life of Crossbearers. The LORD has instituted them and decreed how they are to be celebrated. The lectures and words for individual Acts are clearly and unmistakably laid down, and must remain that way.

The Mountain is always to be the earthly centre. For thousands of years destined to be the place of the Light-anchorage on earth, it must also be protected by the Cross-bearers. Consider that the LORD lived here, and that here He found His earthly resting place.

But for you who have found the support in the Word of the Message, the connection upwards is easier to find, and everyone who feels linked with the Grail knows that here on the Mountain he has found his true home.

“I intend to make the Grail Settlement on Vomperberg, Tirol, into a sanctuary of peace, a source of spiritual strength for all who sincerely seek it.” (My Goal, 1936)

@Posters
The claim(s) by all the factions of the Grail Movement that only them have the true edition of the Grail Message is in my perception wrong. All the existing editions/versions of the Grail Message contain the Truth, but the form in which this Truth is encapsulated are not identical. Therefore, any seeker can find his or her way to the Truth by examining any of the editions that resonates with his or her spirit. No edition of the Grail Message is a legacy that has to be preserved as all the existing edition are a proclamation of the Eternal Truth. An intuitive Spirit will be able to tap into the Light of Truth encapsulated in theses various editions and set himself on the path to the luminous gardens of GOD. As he/she walks this path, his or her inner being will be encompassed by the power of GOD, permitting such a seeker to draw from the Truth, the living Grail Message directly without recourse to the forms of the Truth. The Living Grail Message which is synonymous with eternal Truth has no form, versions or editions. The Truth simply Is. Depending on the nature of each individual, some of the editions of the Grail Message may resonate more with its Spirit. Therefore it is wrong in my perception to openly or surreptitiously paint the picture that only one version is authorized by ABDRUSHIN and all others are false. However, this resonance with one version or other is simply because the seeker is still at the stage of looking at the form of the Grail Message. When seekers draw from the living Grail Message, they will have similar perception irrespective of which edition of the Grail Message the examined initially and these dissension will cease.

The power of GOD eternally pulsates through all his creations and all we have to do is to open our self to it. The power of GOD can be anchored anywhere that is open to it. The anchorage is not dependent on geographical location. The power of GOD can be anchored in a mountain, on a hill, in a temple, church, house or even in a laboratory. You can draw of the power of GOD from anywhere and your ability to draw depends on the purity of your inner being. Some may be more open to the power of GOD at the mountain on Vomperberg while another human being may be more open at the snow capped fjords in Scandinavia. All human beings on Earth who have found the Truth and live according to the laws of GOD are the earthly anchorage of the Light irrespective of their religion, geographical location, sex, race or nationality. Stay blessed.

@m_nwankwo
In my opinion you have said it aright sir,your posts and opinions always resonate with my spirit.May we be guided aright in these trying times as we forge ahead on our path.May the Almighty bless you for being there always.
Peace

It’s been now roughly a year since I excused myself from writing on nairaland, and now I’m glad to say that my schedule has eased up a little, hence I now have time to drop a few words every now and then.

My new boss (my son) is doing very well. He is learning to walk now; once again, thanks for all your good wishes! It’s been a year of enriching experiences, taking care of him.

mnwankwo:
@Posters

The power of GOD eternally pulsates through all his creations and all we have to do is to open our self to it. The power of GOD can be anchored anywhere that is open to it. The anchorage is not dependent on geographical location. The power of GOD can be anchored in a mountain, on a hill, in a temple, church, house or even in a laboratory. You can draw of the power of GOD from anywhere and your ability to draw depends on the purity of your inner being. Some may be more open to the power of GOD at the mountain on Vomperberg while another human being may be more open at the snow capped fjords in Scandinavia. All human beings on Earth who have found the Truth and live according to the laws of GOD are the earthly anchorage of the Light irrespective of their religion, geographical location, sex, race or nationality. Stay blessed.

I concur

Marverick09:
@justcool, as always, your explanations by way of examples bring total clarity to me on things that were vague. Indeed, I am most lucky to be on this thread. However, I would like you to share your perception on the seven universes using the diagram above. It's something I have received different perceptions from different crossbearers . Please do share your perception on it. Thank you.

Hi Marverick09!
Thanks for your questions and your patience.

One can imagine all the seven universes or parts of the world of matter to be arranged in the manner our's or the attached picture is arranged. Each has a gross material sphere surrounded by a corresponding ethereal sphere. In each gross material sphere, there is a coarsest gross material plane(physical) which consists of millions of physical stars and physical planets, with at least one earth-like planet where people incarnate to experience the physical plane. Each also has planes of medium gross matter surrounding the physical plane; as well as planes of fine gross matter, and ethereal planes surrounding the gross material planes.

You can picture our earth as the material Sphere or the entire world of matter. The seven continents of the earth can be viewed as the seven universes. Just as each continent has a solid land with a corresponding airy atmosphere with layers, each of the universes has a "solid" physical plane with corresponding "airy" non-physical planes(astral, fine gross matter, heavy ethereal, medium ethereal, and finally at the top, fine ethereal.

Just as when you jump of the ground on Africa, you will find yourself in the African atmosphere; when you leave the physical in one of the seven universes, you will find yourself in the non-physical plane of the that universe. Just as when you land from the African atmosphere, you land on an African soil; by the same token, when you incarnate from an ethereal plane of a particular universe, you can only incarnate into the physical plane of that particular universe. You cannot die on earth(Ephesus) and find yourself in the ethereal plane of another universe; after laying aside your gross material cloaks, you can only find yourself in an ethereal plane of this universe(Ephesus). Also, trans-incarnation across these seven universes is impossible because such will go against the law of homogeneity as each universe is in a different stage of evolution. You cannot incarnate on earth this time and incarnate on another universe next time; you are bound to this universe. You can only go from the physical plane of this universe to the non-physical plane corresponding to it, and when you reincarnate you return back to this physical plane, not in the physical plane of another universe.

You can also picture the entire world of matter as a solar system with seven planets, each with an atmosphere. The solid grounds of the planets represent the physical planes of the universes, while the atmospheres of the planets represent the non-physical environs or planes of the universes. Just as each planet carries a corresponding atmosphere, or just as each planet has both a solid ground and airy atmosphere, each of the seven universes of the world of matter has both a physical plane and non-physical planes.

Just as the planets in the aforementioned solar system are bound to their orbits and each at a different stage in its orbit. Each of the seven universes of the world of matter is bound to its revolution through the four cardinal stages of birth, maturity(ripeness), old age(over-ripeness) and death(dissolution), and each is at a different stage. But they are so synchronized that at each point in time there is always one passing through the stage of maturity, where it can receive fresh germs from paradise; hence there is a continuous flow of germs from Paradise into the world of matter. As one is leaving this stage of maturity, or metaphorically speaking, closing its gates for fresh germs from paradise, another universe is automatically entering this stage or, in other words, opening its gates to the reception of germs from paradise.

The distance and stretch of these universes is unimaginable to the human mind; so far, all the distances that man has been able to transverse physically with his physical means of transportation constitutes a very small scope within our physical universe. Indeed, all the stars, even the most distant ones that we see in the night sky still belong to our physical universe. Indeed, our Milky Way Galaxy, which consists of billions of solar systems, is only a dot compared to the magnitude of our physical universe; our physical universe contains billions of galaxies!

Imagine paradise like a luminous island above the entire world of matter, above the seven universes or parts of the world or matter, or above the seven planets we used as an example. Paradise stands above the rotation of these universes below it; Paradise does not go through stages of birth and rebirth, for Paradise, although having a beginning, is eternal. Now picture this: From this Island which appears endless in its size and unparalleled in its brightness and beauty drops sparks of little luminous dusts, uninterruptedly, into the world of matter bellow it. These little bright dusts are the spirit germs which incarnate into matter to ennoble it and mature in it.

The law of reciprocal action in conjunction with the law of circulation stipulates that anything that leaves a spot must in the end return to that spot; hence the streaming downwards of the spirit germs from Paradise is supposed to be reciprocated by a stream of developed human spirits leaving matter and floating back to Paradise. Action and action must and should be equal and opposite; this is the way stipulated by the Will of the creator. But Lucifer's wrong principle of temptation, which facilitated the fall of man, disrupted this circle of radiations; as due to guilt incurred from falling when tempted, the human spirits could no longer float back to Paradise. But their inability to float back to Paradise will not prevent that particular material universe they're in from entering the stage of dissolution when it is due for that universe; hence these human spirits will be caught up in the dissolution of that particular universe they are in. Even though spirits are not material, but of a different consistency from matter, they (the spirits) experience this dissolution with the rest of that material universe because they wear material bodies as cloaks; hence one can analogically say that their cloaks will be forcibly and painfully torn away from them. This experience is of such a painful magnitude that it will crush the personality that has developed around the spirit seed, freeing an unconscious spirit germ to return to Paradise as a tiny little spark or dust, as it once was at its earliest beginnings, before its descent into matter.

But now, due to the works of the son of God and the son of man, every now and then a flame of light, a human spirit developed from spirit germ, is able to free itself from all guilt and in the lightness or buoyancy if its purity, floats back to Paradise. Just as the brightest bolt of lightning illuminates the sky during a storm, that which once descended as tiny little spark, now brightens the planes of matter as it is pulled from plane to plane, till it enters Paradise, the true home of the spirit.

My most ardent wish is to be allowed to return home one day! And that is my wish for you too and for my fellow humans!

I hope this helps. Thanks, and remain blessed.

kenel:
@justcool
As a cross bearer what is your take about Noah's Ark? I'll want you to throw light on it.

Hello kenel!
Thanks for your question.

My perception is that Noah’s Ark story doesn’t fit within the limits of the possibilities allowed by the laws of creation. There isn’t enough water in the sea and on the atmosphere to flood the entire globe, such amount of water doesn’t exist anywhere on earth. Also, finding a pair of every living creature on earth and having space to put them in Ark is impossible; such an ark would have been too humongous to be built by one man, and would have taken more than a lifetime to be built. These are just few of the things that make the story impossible; there are many others but there’s no need listing them.

Nothing can go against the laws of nature, or what science describe as the laws of physics. These laws are actually expressions of the Will of God; bearing the will of God, as God is perfect and unchangeable, so is His will and the natural expressions or manifestations of it. Therefore, the desire to break or annul these laws will never arise in God. Hence the idea that God changed or annulled the laws is totally out of the question. Since God is perfect, it logically follows that every new act from Him must, as being perfect too, unite completely with the laws which He already put in existence from the earliest beginnings of creation. Simply put, there is nothing supernatural! Even in the beyond and spiritual planes, the same laws manifest which bear the will of God. Only the speed of manifestation or operations differ with each different sphere, because of the difference in density of the spheres or species of creation. Matter to which our physical earth belongs, is very dense, as opposed to the spiritual world which is very light. As science has already observed, density causes obstruction, hence an event that may take a day in Paradise may take a thousand years on earth.

Back to Noah and his Ark! There may have been a regional flood, which gave rise to the biblical story, and which killed off the bad people in that area or region of earth. An event to which Noah, being righteous and hence not deserving death, was warned and shown a way out. Perhaps overtime, as always happens with stories orally passed down, exaggerations born out of lack of understanding or intentional lies were introduced in the story. Sometimes even before the story is penned down, it has already been so mutilated that it resembles nothing of its original form. I, personally have never received enlightenment on the story of Noah and his Ark, but I once received enlightenment on the story of Abraham and his alleged attempt to sacrifice his son.

Let’s look at that story. Abraham was born among a people who believe that one must sacrifice what was dearest to one in order to draw nearer to one's god. Already hundreds of years prior, their forefathers, although they were still far from the conception of the one true God, these ancient men in their simple natural living had journeyed so far in their spiritual development that they were able to perceive the lords of the elementals, who they considered gods, but who are actually servants of God and who in their position immediately below the spiritual sphere, act as intermediaries to the spiritual plane. It was from these so-called gods that the ancients received the well-meant advice: “Give thyself up”, "nothing is too much". Giving up one’s self only means to surrender one’s self to the Truth or to the pursuit of truth or God. However, overtime a misconception crept in; rather than giving up their old bad habits and working on themselves, giving up themselves became giving up their sons or possessions as sacrifice to the gods who they now wrongly worship! The resultant of this wrong worship of the lords of the elementals was that they (the lords of the elementals) distanced themselves from these men; for being servants of God they would not allow men to worship them. Therefore these men came to halt in their spiritual development, and this was inevitably followed by retrogression, as there is no standing still in creation. Hence over time, like all that were given men for their spiritual benefit, this(Give up thyself) became an empty custom. The custom was that every man sacrifices his most beloved possession to his god; and what was more beloved than one’s own son! This custom was already in practice for a very long time before Abraham was born. Being among the first to open himself in all simplicity to the voice of his conscience, Abraham became ahead of his tribe in spiritual development. He was the first among his people to come to the faint realization of the one and only true God. Filled with the utmost longing to approach this God inwardly and understand Him, Abraham was willing to do anything. Hence when he had his first son, he was approached with the idea that he must sacrifice his ultimate possession, his son! However, his intuition rejected this idea, and he battled with it. It was a fierce inner battle, which was decisive for his spiritual development. It’s never easy to battle a custom that has been in practice centuries before one was born; just as today, despite all the enlightenment that has been given, people still find it hard to even question such wrong long held beliefs like the notion that God killed his son to forgive our sins. The inner struggle within Abraham gave way for a prayer, and help came to him! He realized that such sacrifices were wrong and cannot please God who is both love and Justice. Overtime, this event in transmission from generation to generation suffered distortions after distortions till it became the biblical story that you and I are familiar with. How can man assert that the Almighty demanded that a man should kill his son, just to test the man’s belief in him! Such is contrary to the elevated ways of the Lord, who sees the heart of men and hence has no need to test them to know their resolve! He sees everything!

Now back to Noah and his Ark. Although this story is impossible as it opposes the natural laws of creation as they manifest on earth, one need not throw it away since it carries moral lessons which one can learn from. The theme of the story is that non who is pure will parish during the purification of the world. I, personally see the story as prophetic rather historic, because although written thousands of years ago, it mirrors the situation on earth today. Today we stand before and in the midst of judgement of God; and an Ark has been constructed! This Ark is the message brought to earth by the son of God and the son of man. All that live in accord with this message are as though as they are inside an Ark, for they will survive the judgment that is now raging in on Ephesus. During this judgment, which at the same time is purification, all that is evil will perish; afterwards will the day of peace dawn! Peace of a thousand spiritual years in Ephesus, the much talked about millennium!

Blessed is he who finds his way into this Ark.

Thanks, and remain blessed.

justcool

I've been following this thread for a while and I have many of questions. I've mailed u directly before but u asked me to ask my questions on nairaland.

Having read many accounts of life after death and the process of death, I noticed that each account differs from the other. Even the two accounts in the Grail message are hardly the same. The account given in ‘Departed this life’ is hardly the same with the account found in ‘In the realm of demons and phantoms’ of a woman who committed suicide by jumping into water with her infant child. In the account of this suicidal woman in ‘In the realm of demons and phantoms’ as well as your account of the suicide bomber, no mention is made about the silver cord which as I understand still connects the soul and the body for a while after death. Indeed, no mention is made of the separation of the body and the soul, which I understand must proceed gradually. This is contrary to ‘Departed this life’ where after death, the soul remained in the vicinity of the body, and even witnessed its funeral till finally to enters the ethereal.
From other accounts, some people even while on their deathbed already begin to describe the luminous planes. Is this possible? How can that be when the process of separation proceeds gradually, days? How can their souls have journeyed to the luminous planes while they are still not fully dead? Or are their descriptions born only from their imagination?

Please throw light on this issue. Thanks in advance!

Hello Questions4justc

Welcome to this thread, and thanks for your questions.

Questions4justc:
justcool
I've been following this thread for a while and I have many of questions. I've mailed u directly before but u asked me to ask my questions on nairaland.

The reason why I do this is to avoid any of sort cult from developing around me. I don’t want to become an oracle where people secretly go to receive their answers. Hence, I hardly answer questions with a short “Yes” or “No.” I simply share my perception, from which I wish the questioner to find his answers or draw his conclusion. With my answers, I wish to induce spiritual movement.
Also, I do not want to attach any unnecessary secrecy to the Grail message; the Grail message speaks in simple and clear terms, and I have not come across a verse where it demands secrecy. Many, who might have examined the message, have been held aloof because of certain behaviors of us, adherents who feel that we have the right to regulate the Truth and withhold it from certain people. In so doing we make the message, which any human being has a right to, appear as a book for a cult; and also making it appear as if there is something stupendously secret and mysterious in the Grail message, something so sinister that it must be hidden from the simple. Whereas, in my perception, there is nothing secret in the Grail message; nothing that your conscience is not already familiar with.
It is my perception that nobody has the monopoly of the Truth. The Truth, like the sun, shines for all; whoever wishes to receive the sunshine must come out of the shadows.
Also, open exchanges such as this allows others to share their perceptions too, especially where theirs differ from mine or when they feel that I have not expounded the topic enough. This way, readers will take what resonates with them. The Truth is not limited to the perceptions of Justcool! Justcool is just a human spirit on his way to perfection. Indeed, even after arriving at perfection, the human spirit will only remain a part of the whole, never the whole which only Divinity unsubstantial embodies. Hence each individual can only give according to his nature; hence a human being can never offer you perfection, but the whole of humanity, with its gamut of different natures, can.
So please, nobody should be offended when I ask them to put their questions here.

Questions4justc:
justcool

I've been following this thread for a while and I have many of questions. I've mailed u directly before but u asked me to ask my questions on nairaland.

Having read many accounts of life after death and the process of death, I noticed that each account differs from the other. Even the two accounts in the Grail message are hardly the same.

Since birth and death are essentially the same, death is actually birth into the beyond, we may find the solution to your puzzle by examining the process of birth and the initial experiences of babies after birth, which are both very familiar with. Since we are both in the physical realm, we can clearly survey the process of giving birth in the physical and use it to analogize or understand the process of birth of the soul into the enteral ream.
Hence an analogy may help us here:
Imagine newly born children telling the ones that are still in the womb about the experience of being born and the initial experiences on earth after being born. Each gives an account of its experience of being born.
Baby 1 describes the experience as following: The moment I exited the womb, I passed through the birth canal into the warm loving hands of beautiful nurses. These nurses lovely held me as the doctor cut the umbilical cord, freeing me from my mother. Immediately, the nurses wiped me off and wrapped me with a soft and warm blanket and handed me to my father, who lovely held me, kissed me and placed me on my mother’s bosom; and from her bosom I had my first milk. A few days later, my father and mother took me to a loving home, where a comfortable crib was already prepared and waiting for me. There I also met my siblings who were so loving, indeed I could perceive the love that radiated from them; this love calmed me and made me feel at home.

Baby 2 describes his experience as: One day, inside the womb, I felt so dizzy and feel asleep. Soon I awoke in a very cold environment and in the arms of nurses who wrapped me up and placed me in an incubator. I had to stay in the incubator for weeks before I was handed over to my mother.

Baby 3 describes its experience thus: I exited the womb and feel on a hard and dirty floor. The impact almost killed me, it knocked me into unconsciousness. When I came back to consciousness I was lying alone on the cold floor with my umbilical cord still attached to my placenta which lay next to me. I suffered for hours laying, cold, hungry and thirsty on that cold floor till paramedics came to my aid. The freed me from my placenta and took me to a nursery, where I was placed on a bed amidst about twenty other infants. The care takers hardly had enough time for me as they had to attend to other infants in the nursery.

Rather than continuing giving accounts, let’s analyze the three accounts already given. You can see that all three differs, yet they are all absolutely true. If the babies in the womb are as dumb as majority of mankind today, they will form different religions, each based on one account, and fight against one another. One group will say that there is nothing like umbilical cord because it was mentioned by Baby 2, whose account they believe to be the ultimate truth. The other group will say that there is nothing like father and mother since they were not mentioned by baby 3, whose account their religion sprang from.

However, you who are very knowledgeable about life on earth knows that each account above could be true, but the differences are due to circumstances.

Baby 1 was born the normal way into a family that loves him. Both parents were there as he was being born; they received him with open and loving arms. The baby joyfully experienced the entire process without interruption that arises from moments of unconsciousness or sleep.
Baby 2 was born pre-term and through C-section. It happens that the anesthesia administered to the mothers before the C-section often lulls the infant in the womb to sleep. Hence this baby fell asleep in the womb and slept through the C-section procedure. The nurses had to wake this baby up after birth, and since he was born pre-term, he was put in an incubator and had to stay there for weeks before being handed over to its mother. Hence this baby was asleep during the time its umbilical cord was cut, therefore he didn’t experience it and hence it was absent in the account he reported. Understandably, the passage through the birth canal was absent in his report because he didn’t go through it. Also, the father may have been away on a long-distance journey and therefore was around when it was born; or perhaps the mother may have been a single woman.

Baby 3 was an illegitimate baby born by a wicked mother who didn’t want it. She gave birth to it in secret and abandoned it to die on the cold floor. A good Samaritan noticed the baby and called the police, who sent the paramedics to rescue the baby and take it to group home.

This analogy faintly reflects what happens to people when they die; it explains differences in the accounts. In it you can also see why I refused to share my experiences in the beyond when Speer asked me to. Imagine if Baby 1, while still in the womb had read the account of Baby 3. Unnecessary fear would have gripped it and this fear will make it impossible for it to trust its loving parents when he finally gets born, he will expect them to be as unkind as the nurses in the group that attended to Baby 3. and this will deter his development. This is why so many people are afraid of what the beyond will offer them when they pass on, even good people who need not have such fears because based on their goodness only sunny and flowery path awaits them. But this unnecessary fear that they developed due to reading occult book or reading accounts of other people’s experiences, will definitely take on form and make their path difficult. Yes, fear can take on ethereal forms too. On the other hand, we have those who have hell awaiting them and therefore should change their ways, living happily and awaiting a sunny path after death; all because they read other’s account which denies existence of hell and suffering after death. Hardly do they suspect that since their spiritual condition is different, their experiencing of the beyond will be different. Indeed, it is the spirit that creates and animates its paths and conditions.

And here we are only talking of accounts that are actually true, written out of the knowledge of the laws of creation, or received from a departed soul. There are many accounts that are actually false; as well as those that stem from the receiver being a victim of her/his own imaginations.

Questions4justc:

The account given in ‘Departed this life’ is hardly the same with the account found in ‘In the realm of demons and phantoms’ of a woman who committed suicide by jumping into water with her infant child. In the account of this suicidal woman in ‘In the realm of demons and phantoms’ as well as your account of the suicide bomber, no mention is made about the silver cord which as I understand still connects the soul and the body for a while after death. Indeed, no mention is made of the separation of the body and the soul, which I understand must proceed gradually. This is contrary to ‘Departed this life’ where after death, the soul remained in the vicinity of the body, and even witnessed its funeral till finally to enters the ethereal.

The account given in “In the realm of Demons and Phantoms” can be analogized as an account of a baby born under special and unusual circumstances. The same is also the case with my “The Fate of a suicide bomber.” Such souls are like apples or unripe fruits that fall off the tree during a storm. Normally fruits blossom and ripen before they are cast off by the tree. But during a severe storm, an unripe fruit may be plugged off the tree and cast onto the ground without experiencing ripeness. It happens that such souls as the suicide bomber, looses consciousness immediately they die. The magnitude of such sudden and severe explosion or violent death might cause the soul to loose consciousness for a while; and during the period of unconsciousness the silver cord and astral body dissolves, freeing the soul to sink to the ethereal environment corresponding to its heaviness. It happens that the soul might not even be aware of the fact that it was unconscious; to her or him, it appears as a continuous experiencing. I’m sure that you must have experienced such even while alive on earth. You have been once or many times in your life’s time, so overwhelmed, perhaps by tiredness, that you fall into such a deep sleep that appears like a split second to you; but only to wake up and realize that you have slept for hours! Imagine a man going through surgery! He may be unconscious for hours due to the effect of the anesthetic, and during this state of oblivion, he may go though many procedures totally unaware. When he wakes up he may hardly suspect that hours had passed since he fell asleep! If he didn’t know about the surgery, when giving account of his experience in the hospital, he may say that he closed his eyes in the surgery room, only to open them in the after-surgery room. And the account given in “In the realm of Demons and Phantoms,” only the experiences of the soul were mentioned; to the soul, it was only a continuous experiencing while in reality she or he may have lost consciousness momentary without suspecting an interruption in experiencing. This is why some accounts hardly mention things like silver cord, astral body and etc.; the soul can shed these unconsciously.

Questions4justc:

From other accounts, some people even while on their deathbed already begin to describe the luminous planes. Is this possible? How can that be when the process of separation proceeds gradually, days? How can their souls have journeyed to the luminous planes while they are still not fully dead? Or are their descriptions born only from their imagination?

Yes, this is possible. Some people, due to the way they live their lives are connected to the luminous planes, which they often visit while they sleep, although they may consider such visits mere dreams. It happens that by living a righteous life, their subtler bodies become brighter, less dense and greatly ennobled. These people are like helium filled balloons that leap upwards whenever unrestricted. Their souls being pure and homogeneous to the purer planes are able to divine or pick up impressions from these planes even while they are still on earth. Just as a radio tuned to a particular broadcasting station is able to pick up signals from that station which may be very far away from where the radio is. Simply put, the radio is homogeneous to the signal of the station, and hence based on the law of attraction of homogeneous species, it’s able to attract signals from that station. Our souls are such antennas, and by the way we live our lives, we tune our receptive capacity towards the luminous realms or towards the depths of darkness. Such luminous souls, once the radiation of the physical body dwindles as often happens during sleep, sickness, or many other situations, their souls will quickly perceive the planes that they are homogeneous to; or the plane that they belong to due to the lightness and brightness of their souls. This is what happens when such people are in their deathbed. As their body gradually dies, or as restricting radiation of the physical body declines, their souls like an unrestricted helium filled balloon are already being pulled away from the body; and they with their inner eyes they can already begin to divine the luminous planes due to homogeneity, as I explained. The physical body which is not yet fully dead, cold, or unresponsive to the soul will respond to the signals coming from the soul through the not yet severed silver code. Hence as the soul marvels in exhilaration at the beauty of the luminous plane stretched forth before it and waiting to receive, it makes an impression on the brain which in turn modifies the impression as signals ordering the physical mouth to speak. This is why the people around the departing or dying person often hears him talking to people or describing places they(those around the dying) cannot see.

Immediately after death, the lightness of the soul or the pull of the luminous realm causes the soul to distance from the physical body farther and faster than would have been the case if the soul was heavy. And as the soul strives away from the earth, the weaker the astral body becomes. Soon even the connection between the soul and the astral body is severed, freeing the soul to leap to the next higher plane towards its home. All these can happen in record time, depending on how pure the soul is and how it desires to strives towards the luminous planes. It is possible that a dying person can close his eye on earth and open his inner eyes already in the luminous planes, or even already home! I already explained this in the previous paragraph; while the soul slept, it shaded its gross material cloaks. If he doesn’t need the experience of waiting to gradually shed his cloaks and consciously going from planes to plane as he is pulled higher and higher, he may not go through it consciously. To him it appears as he just closed his eyes on earth and awaken in the luminous planes. It is possible for a soul to die and return to the luminous realms in the day; but this is only possible for highly evolved and pure souls such as called ones or those sent from the luminous spheres on a mission to the earth. It is hardly possible of humanity of today. Such luminous souls are like fully ripe fruit which on falling off the tree to the ground will quickly burst and deliver their seeds to the ground to sprout in record time.

Thanks, and remain blessed.

@justcool

Thanks so much for your explanations which totally answered my questions.

My next question is about species of creation which I understand cannot change from one to another. But what I don't understand is how spirits are able to become Primordial spirits by nearness to the sons of God or by being called which gives them a flame from the Primodial realm. How is the flame able change a human spirit to a primordial spirit especially when the two are different species. How was it possible for Irmingard to become a Divine unsubstantiate by receiving a spark of unsubstantiality?


Thanks in advance for thoroughly answering the question as you have always done in the past.

Justcool

Do your readers here know that your son was baptised in the catholic church? I'm following you on fb and I was surprised to see pictures of you and your family baptizing your infant son in a catholic church. If you are convinced in this Grail thing why didn't u baptist ur son in grail church? I heard of grail followers will not marry a non member or wed in another church.

Questions4justc:
@justcool

Thanks so much for your explanations which totally answered my questions.

My next question is about species of creation which I understand cannot change from one to another. But what I don't understand is how spirits are able to become Primordial spirits by nearness to the sons of God or by being called which gives them a flame from the Primodial realm. How is the flame able change a human spirit to a primordial spirit especially when the two are different species. How was it possible for Irmingard to become a Divine unsubstantiate by receiving a spark of unsubstantiality?


Thanks in advance for thoroughly answering the question as you have always done in the past.

You are right about the different species of creation not intermixing or fusion. The different species: Primordial spiritual, spiritual, Animistic, ethereal, and gross matter, can only stand side by side but can never mix or fuse with each other. Neither can, even the different species of Gross matter: Fine gross matter, medium Gross matter, and finally coarsest or heaviest gross matter (Physical) ever fuse, merge, or amalgamate with one another; nor is it possible with the ethereal species. However, each specie can attach to the one immediately above or below it through radiation. The laws of creation only permit this attachment when certain conditions are met. These conditions are: (1) that the species can only attach through radiation, i.e. only their radiations can attach them or hold them together; and (2) only species that a close to each other in homogeneity can achieve this attachment through radiation. Therefore heaviest gross matter(physical) can attach or be held together with medium gross matter(astral) due to the fact that they share a certain heaviness or homogeny; this attachment or being held together can only be achieved through the mutual radiation of both species. This is what makes it possible for souls, already wearing an astral body as the outermost body, to incarnate into a physical body. It is the mutual radiation of the soul and the physical body that holds the physical body and soul together. This being held together makes them appear as one, whereas in reality, they are two different entities that can never amalgamate. This is why immediately the physical body can no longer provide the required radiation the soul separates from it; they were never one entity!
This relationship, coupling or being held together can be likened as the relationship between a powerful magnet and a piece of iron. An Iron and a magnet can be held together by the attractive power of the magnet; yet they (the iron and the magnet) remain two different objects. And this is possible only because they share certain homogeneity or are closely related, i.e. they are both metals. Wood and magnet, for example, cannot be held together by any form of attraction because of difference in species.
The law that allows the physical to be linked up, attached or held together with the astral also allows the astral to link up or attach to fine gross matter, which is next lighter specie, and which also can link up or attach to the heaviest ethereal matter. Hence link by link all the species can attach to each other, or link up to each other all the way to the spiritual or Primordial spiritual! Just as the wood cannot be held together by a magnet’s (metal or metallic) power of attraction due to lack of homogeneity, ethereal matter (no matter how heavy and condensed) can never directly attach to physical or heavy gross matter because the difference in species is too much. Therefore the ethereal needs first to attach to fine gross matter, which is the next lower species, which in turn can attach to medium gross matter, which in turn will attach to physical or heaviest gross matter. Neither can the spiritual directly connect to the ethereal without the intermediation of the various animistic species, nor can the Primordial spiritual attach or link up with the animistic without the intermediation of the various spiritual species. Therefore everything has to proceed step by step, no step or link can be omitted, because creation allows no gaps.

Now, coming to your questions. When a human spirit is called to discipleship, he receives a spark from Primordial spirit or a spark of primordial spiritual realm. This spark is Primordial spiritual and hence the human spirit can link up to it through radiation or be held in its power of radiation. Here again, we see both condition, that we discoursed in the earlier chapter, met. (1)Nearness in homogeneity, i.e. they are both spiritual and swing in the same radiation, and (2) it is the mutual radiation of both the spark and the human spirit that holds them together. However, they remain tow different species that can never merge or amalgamate into one. Just as connection with the soul makes the physical body, which otherwise is cold an immobile, alive; this connection with the primordial spiritual spark quickens the spirit, increasing its power of perception. Hence such a spirit acts as intermediary between the son of God and other human beings, because Primordial spiritual stand closer to Divinity unsubstantiate than spirituality does. Therefore, in reality, this does not make such called ones(disciples) Primordial spirits; for this will be contrary to the laws of creation, as one specie cannot morph into another species; Primordial spirits will always remain Primordial spirits, human spirits will always remain human spirit, animistic beings will always remain animistic, ethereal will always remain ethereal, and gross matter always gross matter. Therefore, in my perception, the expression, “youngest in the Primordial spiritual kingdom” should not be taken out of context. The primordial spiritual spark enables the disciples, who remain human spirits, to receive what otherwise only Primordial spirits could receive. As long as they maintain this connection, one can analogically say that they stand on one foot on the spiritual and on the other foot on the Primordial spiritual; this way they span a bridge to the primordial kingdom which is closer to Divinity. Or one can say that they stand half a step above other human spirits, but not an entire step above as such would be tantamount to becoming a primordial spirit.
Such nearness to a Primordial spark, and also nearness to the Sons of God, strengthens the spirit to such an extent that even after the physical departure of the disciple, as long as the connection remains, such a disciple is able to partake in the experiencing of the Isle of Chosen Ones (Patmos) which is the furthest outpost of the great primordial spiritual sphere, the lowest primordial spiritual plane. Therefore one can say that they are lifted into the Primordial Spiritual sphere, although at the furthest outskirt. But, in my perception, this does not mean that they actually step beyond the bother of the spiritual into the Primordial spiritual sphere; rather, they are able to reach the highest spiritual plane, which is a reflection of Primordial spiritual Patmos. This highest spiritual plane is also called Patmos and there is a mutual experiencing between both Patmos’. Whatever happens in Patmos in the Primodial spiritual sphere can also be seen in the Patmos on the spiritual. Many have wondered why this lowest plane of the primordial sphere is called the isle called ones. This is because the expression chosen one denotes one a called one who faithfully fulfilled his calling. Hence the expression, "Many are called but only few chosen," i.e. many are called but only few lives up to their calling. Those that fulfill their callings will, after discarding all their material and animistic cloaks, partake in the experiencing of Patmos, the Isle of chosen ones.

In the case of Irmingard, it was not a spark of the Primodial spiritual, but rather a spark of unsubstantiality. Based on the aforementioned law of creation which allows no gaps, a spark of unsubstantiality can only be given to, or linked to a Divine substantiate being; therefore we suspect that there is an Irmingard in the Divine substantiate sphere. In the three volumes edition of the Grail message, in the lecture, “The Primodial Oueen” mention is made of the garden of virtues, at the foot of the Primodial Queen, the highest of which is the garden of Purity. It is my perception that there is a Divine substantite being here called Irmingard, who is the Divine substantiate conformation of purity. This is the Irmingard that received a spark of unsubstantility. It is my perception that there is another Irmingard in the Grail castle at the highest point of Primodial spiritual sphere, who as a portal of purity in creation, is a vessel for Irmingard in the Divine substantiality; this I deduced from the fact that the message mentioned that Irmingard has a vessel in creation, a vessel she is not firmly tied to. It is my perception that it was this vessel that accompanied Parsifal to earth both times He was here. At the hour of fulfillment, during the second earthly visit she was linked up to Irmingard above creation in the Divine substantiate realm, who received a spark of unsubstantiality to enable her act as a mediator of Purity between Imanuel and creation. Hence, in my perception, just as a spark of primordial spirit given to disciples does not make them primordial spirits, the spark of unsubstantiality that was given to Irmingard does not make her Divinity unsubstantaite; the spark only made it possible for Imanuel to work in creation through her.

However the issue of Irmingard is very controversial, as different cross bearers have different views and perceptions. What I offered here is solely my perception, and of course I am a human spirit and can very much be wrong. The mainstream crossbrearers (The Grail movement) have different perception from mine; you might as well hear theirs too and then decide for yourself where the Truth lies.

Thanks and remain blessed.

onyeama:
Justcool

Do your readers here know that your son was baptised in the catholic church? I'm following you on fb and I was surprised to see pictures of you and your family baptizing your infant son in a catholic church. If you are convinced in this Grail thing why didn't u baptist ur son in grail church? I heard of grail followers will not marry a non member or wed in another church.

Even though this is a personal question which I'm not obliged to answer, I feel the need to answer it. First realize that I don't owe you or anybody any explanations about my life; I offer my perceptions on the Grail message, not my actions. I am not the Truth, I'm only a student or adherent of the Truth. One who wishes to strive spiritually should examine the Grail message and not my personal life. I and the Grail message are two different things; I can be wrong in my action but the Grail message remains the Truth, irrespective of what justcool or anybody does.

With that out of the way, I have this to say: My wife felt the need to have our child baptized in the catholic church as this is tradition set by our parents. I personally did not feel this need, but my wife and I are of equal value therefore it will be wrong of me to hinder her desires. When it comes to spirituality, one should never interfere, hinder, force or coerce his neighbor, because irrespective of our earthly roles(as husband and wives, mothers and fathers, brothers, and sister, etc) each and every one of us is answerable to God in all that she/he does. Therefore any form of forcing or hindering or your neighbor constitute a sin before God. Therefore my wife has the right to have our son baptized in any church; as a loving husband I can only be there to offer her protection as she unfolds spiritually.

The unnatural role that some churches and most African cultures give husbands is wrong. The husband is not above his wife; he is not the head of his wife, as its often taught in the church, they are both equal and should respect each others needs. A man has no right to tell his wife what church to go to and what church not to go to; anybody that does so interferes with his neighbor's God-given freewill. Such a person will one day account for such actions. If you can't stand certain churches, then do not seek a marriage partner among their fold. You have the right to seek a partner in your own church; but you don't have the right to demand that the woman you married a catholic leaves Catholicism and follow your own path.

My wife, who is a very spiritual person, was a catholic before I met her. I knew this full well before marrying her; therefore it will be wrong of me to demand that she leaves her church after marrying her. On the contrary, not only do I allow her to follow her heart and conscience, I encourage it! I had to make it clear that God is more important that family! A loving husband should patiently wait for his wife to grow up to his path and voluntarily follow it if his path is the right path. My wife has already recognized the value of the Grail message and already inwardly treading the path; however, certain outward practices, like belonging to a church, I have to let her drop at her own time and discretion.

Also, I don't know what you mean by "Grail Church." The Grail message is not a church. The Grail message is a book that points to the Truth, it clearly points out the way to the luminous heights, the eternal kingdom of God. Any individual, irrespective of his religion, nationality, race, gender, etc is welcome to tread the part shown in the Grail message if he wishes to. If anybody told you that the Grail message belongs to this church or that movement, such a person is telling a lie. It is unfortunate that many people in Nigeria consider the Grail message inseparable from the movements formed around it. On the contrary, one doesn't have to belong to any movement to become an adherent of the Grail message.

The power/love of God is not religious, it considers neither our religious views/orientation nor our nationality or race; rather it follows the path of purity. Wherever purity arises in the soul of any man, this power flows in. Hence any prayer done in purity, receives the power or blessing of God. This is irrespective of the location of the person praying. Even a prayer from a soul in the deepest depth of hell will be lifted up towards the steps of the throne of God, as long as its done in purity. Purity is the prerequisite for a prayer to reach the kingdom of God, not the location of the one praying. Therefore, even in the catholic church and during catholic baptism, a woman who, out of pure love for her infant, prays to God to protect her child, will have her prayers delivered to the steps of God's throne; her prayers will be answered and her child will receive the blessing and protection she prayed for. If the church setting or church ritual is what it takes for her to achieve such purity, then a husband who knows the laws of creation will not deny her her wish to go to church. Some people can only achieve this purity of prayer, inside their church or mosque, some by reading the psalm, bible or Quran, some by playing gospel music, others by being hit with a sudden and terrible blow of fate, etc. Even though the power of God is not limited to these places or situations, but lies ever readily for all who can make contact it though purity, one should not force these people to drop such practices prematurely. One must patiently wait for them to mature to the fact that it is the purity that paves the path for the reception of this power and not the location, ritual, or situation and that one can achieve purity wherever he may be if he prays from his heart, conscience, or intuition.

Parents participating in administering the act of baptism have a say in adding spiritual value to it. If the clergyman performing the act is connected to the light and inwardly prepared to pass on light to the child then the child will really receive protection from the baptism. Or if any of the parties, be it either the mother, father, even the God-father, of the infant, prays out of genuine love for the child to receive protection during the act, then this intersection will, in its reciprocal effect, afford protection to the child. However, if neither the family presenting the child to baptized, the clergy man, nor any of the administrators of the baptism is inwardly prepared or connect to the light in any way, i.e. if the clergy considers performing the act as a mare discharge of his official duty, and the parents are just there to introduce their child to the church, then the whole act becomes futile, bringing neither good or bad. It becomes just a social or church gathering, that in reality has nothing to do with God. Therefore whether an infant receives, or not receive, blessing through baptism is dependent on the strength and purity of the inner preparedness of those performing the baptism, not the infant whose spirit is totally isolated due to lack of generative power. This is the power that enables the spirit to act in the world of coarsest gross matter; prior to the setting in of this power, the spirit is like a man isolated in an island with the drawbridge raised or gate closed. The case is different with a mature individual in whose case his spiritual condition or inner-preparedness contributes to whether he will receive any blessings or not.
Therefore, rather than quarreling over where to baptize a child, one can as well just pray for his child by himself, at home or at the hospital after birth; if your prayer is genuine then the child will receive his protection and blessing. Then you wouldn't worry or mind if you partner takes him to church for baptism, knowing full well that the act can bring him no harm and will be futile if the administrators are not connected to the light in any way, or if non them can add value to it through genuine prayer from their hearts.

In my son's case, I decided to be there and participate in administering the act. If I'm a genuine adherent of the Grail message, then my presence can only have a purifying effect. Then I wont have to worry about where (on what church) it is done or the spiritual condition of the clergyman, since in my presence no harm can come to my child. Like I said earlier, the genuine prayer and love of a child's parents, or even God-father, or anybody who participates in administering the baptism can pave way for the child to receive blessings from above.

Rightly considered, those who quarrel about religions are really misguided. Let anybody follow the path he/she chooses; as long as she/he is doing it from her/his heart, and not out of habit, he will eventually arrive at the right path. The churches today represent different levels of spiritual maturity; some people, as they mature, go from one church to another until they finally arrive at the Truth. A loving partner, mother, father, brother or friend can only patiently wait for them to mature. A husband's duty towards his wife is to be her tower of support, protection, love, and a good example of an individual on the way to the Light; he should not pose as the lord of her spiritual life. There is nothing wrong in allowing your wife to baptize your child in her church.

Thanks and remain blessed

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So very glad and heartening and happy and Great x 100000000000000000................................................... to have you back Justcool.

Still having logon issues to Nairaland.

A basic inquiry

Pls could you elucidate on the mechanism of how replicas of entire cities on earth are reproduced in the ethereal planes (both the lower darker ones and the higher lighter ones). I.E. the same city has ethereally-formed replicas on almost all the planes wherein homogenous spirits karmaically linked to the city converge following the laws of Creation. In furtherance of this..............are entire nations replicated as well?

Another basic inquiry

When humankind chops down a tree, blasts a hill/mountain for geological riches or construction, dries up a lake/stream/river...........etc.........what happens to the particular animistic elemental beings taking care or associated with that particular tree, mountain/hill, water body? Those that Blessed humans can see taking on the form of the tree, mountain, water body.

Thanks and positive rays to you and your family circle...........................no hurries.


..................and fab to have you back.

The Seventh Day of Creation

It is said that God completed the Creation in six days and rested on the seventh day. The six days of Creation, however, refer to the creation of the Pure-Spiritual Realm, at the summit of which is The Castle of The Holy Grail. Here lies the Sacred Vessel as a token of God’s Love for Creation, the Pulsating Heart thereof, into Which His Power is poured for the renewal of all the worlds!
These are not six literal earth-days, but six periods or ages (which was correctly translated by Ferrar Fenton in his version of the Bible). They could be considered “days” according to the concepts of space and time in the Pure-Spiritual Realm, where a thousand years are as one day. Unfortunately, science and religion have quibbled over this literal interpretation of the word “day”, and yet both sides, in striving to uphold Truth, have proceeded on an erroneous path by applying the sense of these words to the Universe in which we find ourselves at present - they actually apply it to just this planet Earth.
The picture given in the Bible, however, refers only to the great process of Creation which began with the Proclamation “Let there be Light!” It is not the sun of our world that is meant therewith, but the great Light, a Part of God, Which dwells in Creation for the sustenance of all
Creation. This Light is Imanuel, The Great Holy Spirit, Which “moved upon the waters”. When viewed from this perspective, both the scientific and religious interpretations fall away. And yet, it is only this perspective that gives the complete answers, that which the spirit of man is truly seeking.
Till now there has not been a true understanding of God’s “rest” on the Seventh Day of Creation. How is it possible for God to rest? He is after all no human being, who needs to rest after an intensive work week of six days. Herein lies an enigma for the seeker. But this enigma lasts only so long as the seeker does not yet possess an understanding of the present structure of Creation.
After the Primordial Creation was completed, the next great phase of Creation began - and that was the coming into being of the next worlds - the Spiritual Paradise, where the developed human spirit has its origin, then the Entitial Ring, where the Elemental Beings and souls of animals come from, and thereafter the Worlds of Matter where both human being and animal journey for their respective development.
It is not that God was at “rest” during this phase, but rather that He Himself did not do the creating personally. The First Creation was accomplished personally by Imanuel, a Part of God, Who is The Holy Spirit. This was fulfilled in the “six days” of Creation. On the seventh day, however, He Himself did no further Creation. The rest of Creation developed as reflections or copies of the original Creation during this time. This took place under the Guidance of several Spiritual Leaders and Helpers - beginning with those who had attained consciousness in the direct presence of Imanuel at the Height of all Creation.
During this period of “rest”, Parsifal began the course of His development! Born at the Height of Creation during the first age of “Let there be Light”, in Whom is anchored a Part of The Holy Spirit Imanuel, Parsifal began the reign over all Creation. Still a youth from the perspective of Him as The King of The Holy Grail, Parsifal first had to mature and experience Creation, before He could take full possession over every realm thereof.
At the end of this “day of rest”, the “seventh day”, however, the next great phase of Creation begins! The Hour of Twelve marks the end of God’s rest and forbearance. The lower worlds of Creation had developed, but - thanks to the misguidance of the fallen angel Lucifer - they developed contrary to The Will of God. Love found no entry into the hearts and souls of many human spirits. Darkness alone prevailed, and the spirits developing did not find their way to The Luminous Heights. Even the Work of Jesus The Son of God was in vain, as He was crucified, instead of joyfully welcomed as King!
Now is the Day of Imanuel! He has come into all the lower worlds at the Dawn of the New Spiritual Week, as King. Through Him is consummated the Divine Connection with every plane of Creation, all the way to the lowest Worlds of Matter. From this point forward, Imanuel dwells on every realm through the unbreakable Chain of Radiation that has been anchored on each world that has a possibility of standing in The Light.
The Seventh Day of Creation is thereby over, a New Age has begun, and God is now with us, in Imanuel. Open your souls, you who are seeking. Rise out of the darkness and seek His Light. It is anchored here also on the Earth, which still has a possibility of coming into The Light, if we do not fail. May God grant it! Amen.

From www.sphatik.com

Happy new year all!


Hi speer,
Sorry for my late reply, I was in another retreat. But I’m back now, and hopefully I will become as active here on nairaland as I was before.

Speer:


A basic inquiry

Pls could you elucidate on the mechanism of how replicas of entire cities on earth are reproduced in the ethereal planes (both the lower darker ones and the higher lighter ones). I.E. the same city has ethereally-formed replicas on almost all the planes wherein homogenous spirits karmaically linked to the city converge following the laws of Creation. In furtherance of this..............are entire nations replicated as well?

I’m reluctant to go into details about this issue as I don’t want to encourage any unhealthy preoccupation about the beyond(the subtler gross material planes and ethereal). It is never right to be so preoccupied about the beyond; as such fascination hardly springs desire for accent. The most important thing to know about the beyond is that the condition that awaits us there depends on how we live our lives today on earth. Hence we can start today to make our beyond rosy by living according to the dictates of our conscience or intuitive perception which as the voice of our spirits never strays from the will of God.

However, I will say as much as I feel is needed to spur us into spiritual activity. Hence I will throw some clarifications. It is important to understand, while reading any text, the context under which the word Ethereal is used. Sometimes the word ethereal is used to denote the entire beyond, i.e. the non-physical realms of the world of matter. However, now you know enough to know that the beyond is made up of many layers: Medium gross matter (Astral), Fine Gross matter, Coarsest Ethereal, Medium ethereal, and Fine ethereal. And you already know that based on the attraction of homogeneous species, the planes closest to the earth will resemble the earth more closely that those further away. And immediately next to the earth (Physical or coarsest gross matter) lies the astral or medium gross matter; hence this is the realm that resembles the earth. Indeed everything we see on earth is also in the astral plane. One can think of the physical plane (to which the earth belongs) as an unpolished or coarser reflection of the astral realm; as the prototypes of everything on earth exists in the astral plane. Some parts of the astral realm are so similar to the earth that clairvoyants have often mistaken them to be the earth. And these cases of mistaken identity have caused so much misery, disappointments, persecutions and even wars all through the history of mankind.

This process of this replication is quite simple and you already know it. Everything we humans build or form on earth, be they houses, cars, cities etc. starts by we thinking about them or about how to build them. Thoughts are fine gross matter and operate in the fine gross material planes. These thoughts take on forms, and by attracting forms of similar nature they evolve to completion; finally they mature and condense in the astral planes. And then through humans on earth who are of similar nature and who have the necessary means and ability, the forms that already exist in the astral plane are passed down on to the earth. Hence, when an inventor invents or when builders build houses, cars, or cities on earth, what they are actually doing is passing down what already exists in the astral plan. It is erroneous to think that an inventor is the sole origin or originator of his works; on the contrary, there are always other influences as well.

But this does not mean that all that we receive or pass down from the astral plane are products of our thinking and volition. There is yet another part of the astral realm that can be called the gross material work shop of the little elemental beings. These are a particular type of elementals that are tasked to help in the facilitation of man’s live on earth by making models of things that exist in the high planes and passing them over to man. Hence, these works, we can rightly call gifts from above, because they do not spring from mankind but rather they are received from above. These elementals, who stand in the Will of God, fashion or make a medium gross material prototype of their gifts in the astral plane, which radiate downwards towards human inventors on earth, and inspire them to create or copy and reproduce(make an earthly replica) on earth. However due to man’s presumption of knowing everything better, human’s inventors of today hardly pass down or receive these gifts in purity. Humility, purity, and childlikeness are needed to receive these gifts in the right manner; but unfortunately these qualities are lacking among mankind of today. With the exception of a few, most inventors do not receive or pass down correctly. Due to lack or purity, humility, and childlikeness, sometimes all that the inventor perceives is the idea; then he uses his unguided intellect to figure out the how. And whenever the intellect is left unguided by the spirit, whatever results will hardly unite perfectly with the Will of God; this is because the intellect knows nothing about the Will of God. Due to this failure of mankind, the earth bears little resemblance to this part of the astral realm which we refer to as the gross material workshop of the elementals. The part of the astral realm now represents what the earth could be like if mankind had not failed.

Hence one can say that there are two parts of the astral realm:
(1) The part leading away from the earth. This is where certain types of elementals mold our thoughts, emotions, words, and actions. All grouped based on weight and homogeneity. Hence this part of the astral realm has many layers (planes) grouped based on homogeneity and weight. This is where we find cities that bear uncanny resemblance to cities on earth. Here there are dark planes/layers, where evil works are gathered; as well as lighter and brighter planes/layers where good works are gathered.
(2) The part leading towards the earth. This is the gross material workshop of the elementals. This is where a different group of elementals fashion models or prototypes of gifts that they pass on to man. Here we have only beautiful works, as these elementals stand in the Will of God and can only produce what swings completely in the Holy Will of God.

The astral and fine gross material realms are vast. It happens that a departed one may spend centuries moving through these realms and from there get drawn back to the earth in another incarnation, without stepping into the actual ethereal realms which being of a totally different type of matter bears less resemblance to the earth. Most of the occult masters that venture into astral travels and talks about so many realms and planes they visited are all wallowing in the astral and fine planes of gross matter.

In addition to all these, there is another type of reception which gave rise to replication of cities in different spheres of creation. All that is above the world of matter radiates into it; not only beings or spirits but events too. Just as on earth we know about the ‘Butterfly effect,’ the concept that a flap of the butterfly’s wing in any part of the earth sets off ripples that can travel across the entire globe. The same is applicable of the entire creation. Spirits, beings and entities in their activity send ripples across creation; those above the world of matter, their ripples go beyond the border of original creation into the worlds of matter. Hence sensitive humans on earth through these radiations/ripples are able to pick up names of spirits, beings, and places involved. Of course thousands of years ago, before the fall of man, mankind was more receptive; but after the fall of man mankind’s receptive ability dimmed and all the things received in the past eras got swept into the realms of myths and legends. You’d be surprised to learn that most of the folk stories told across cultures are actually picked up from events in the non-physical realms. Even some of the stories we encounter in the bible and other sacred book are actually supra-earthly happenings. From the aforementioned ripples, radiation, waves, or whatever one wishes to call it, emanating from beings, spirits, primordial spirits, humans on earth were able to decipher the names. Names like Michael, Gabriel, Maria, and Elizabeth and well as city names like Patmos, Jerusalem, Azura, etc are actually names of Primordial beings and the city names are actually names of places above the world of matter. Hence men on earth as well as other parts of the world of matter gave those names to their cities; or better said, they raised cities in honor of those places above the world of matter. If mankind had actually remained pure, indeed every city on earth should have been raised in honor of a particular city above, just as every individual named after a particular primordial spirit should strive to become an earthly or spiritual copy of the Primordial spirit. Because with the name comes an obligation which unfortunately the present mankind has forgotten. Hence in all parts of creation, there are female spirits named Maria, and they are all copies of the one and only Maria who stands above all others.

Also, we must understand that everything that exists below the Primordial spiritual sphere is a repetition of the original in the Primordial spiritual sphere. Hence there are seven major divisions of the Primordial spiritual realm, since it issued out of Imanuel Who is the Will of God and Who holds the number seven; indeed wherever the Will of God is working you will find seven major divisions. Hence the spheres that develop after the Primordial spiritual all have seven major parts, each corresponding to a part of the Primordial spiritual.
The world of matter has seven major parts. We have seven major parts of the physical or coarsest gross material world, each corresponding to its seven major astral, fine gross material, and ethereal realms.
Like I said, if humans have developed according to the Will of God, not only will we bear names corresponding to names of the Primordial spiritual beings, we should also raise our cities in honor of cities in up there. And with the greatest might strive to make ourselves spiritual copies of the primordial beings whose names we bear; as well as make our cities earthly replicas of the Primordial cities whose name they bear. This way we would have made this earth a reflection of the kingdom of God.

However, we failed to express the number seven in our activities, as creation demands. Only in the work of the animistic/elementals do we clearly see the number seven. Our earth(a work of the elementals) has seven major parts or land masses; the physical bodies that the animistic gave us has seven major systems, as science has observed; the astral body, another work of the elementals, has seven major power centers, which we call Chakras; there are seven glands of the endocrine system. I can go on and on in pointing out the number seven, but what’s the point. Look around you and you find the number seven in all the work of the elementals. If humans had followed the Will of God, seven incarnations would have been enough for each spirit to mature and return home; but on the contrary mankind today incarnate many many many more times on earth and yet don't even mature.

Speer:


Another basic inquiry

When humankind chops down a tree, blasts a hill/mountain for geological riches or construction, dries up a lake/stream/river...........etc.........what happens to the particular animistic elemental beings taking care or associated with that particular tree, mountain/hill, water body? Those that Blessed humans can see taking on the form of the tree, mountain, water body.

This is like asking, “When a hand is cut off, what happens to the blood that supplied nutrients to that hand?” Of course they get reassigned to other locations. When a flower dies or is killed, the elemental in charge of it does not die or remain idle; she gets reassigned to another one. And besides one elemental just don’t care for one plant, but many; hence she always has work to do. In each part of the earth, there are always plants growing, seeds sprouting, mountains being formed, rivers/streams/lakes widening or narrowing. The earth is very much alive and teeming with activity some of which we humans hardly notice, hence the elementals always have work to do. It is true that human activity often interferes with their work, but never to the extent that they become idle. Even within a square foot of the earth, there are so many activity that you can hardly suspect.

Nature is amazingly resilient. And man’s activity can only delay but can never stop nature. Imagine an entire forest that was burned down. It appears as if all life and activity in it has been extinguished; but just wait a couple of months. You will see seeds sprouting, flowers and plants beginning to grow back. Hence even during the time that it appeared the forest was dead, elementals were working on it, paving way for the seeds to grow and watering them with their radiation.

Speer:

Thanks and positive rays to you and your family circle...........................no hurries.


..................and fab to have you back.

Thanks so much. It’s always fab to hear with you.
Remain blessed.

Greetings,
Even though I am yet to completely read the three vols. of “In the Light of Truth,” I read that the vibrations in which the spirit germ swims has an influence upon it through reciprocal action. If it permits noble vibrations through reciprocal action, it will activate its latent qualities, strengthen and develop them so that in time, they‘ll bear good fruits and bring great blessings to Creation. If on the other hand the spirit germ decides to wallow in dishonourable vibrations these will influence it so strongly that their nature remains attached to it and also covers its pure qualities suffocating them and preventing them from coming to life and developing.
Every decision the spirit germ of man takes, forms a knot in the threads dragging behind it. By following wrong paths and going to and fro the spirit germ becomes looped forming an intricate complex/network in which it is intertwined. AS the spirit germ grows the threads become thicker and stronger from karma the ultimate effect which may be so powerful that it attaches to the spirit germ this or that inclination (predisposition/susceptibility). By so doing, it influences the free decisions towards a direction that can be determined in advance.
Having said all this, I am desirous of ridding myself of all guilt and karma and would love that my friends, neighbours, and colleagues experience same. My karma from inward search include but not restricted only to the following:-
(a) My karma has attached to my spirit germ the inclination to sexual lust (leading to pornography and masturbation); being temperamental i.e. hot tempered and judgmental; laziness/idleness, lukewarmness etc.;
(b) I suffer marginalization in career as a health worker; by reason of the geographical region I come from in my country; my skin colour (black/dark skinned).;
(c) People I sincerely set out to help in pure love reward me by mocking making jest of me behind my back, exploit my kind-heartedness for their selfish aims; condemn me ultimately dampening my spirit and making question if it is really worth it?;
(d) I’ve repeatedly failed in my attempts to secure funding, or financial donations despite my sincere and best efforts,;
(e) Repeatedly, financial handicap, ill-health have hindered my furthering my education – graduate studies, registration for certification examinations.;
Jesus death or crucifixion has no bearing on cleansing us of sins as purported in the Christian doctrine. Rather, pure unselfish love seeking the benefit of the other person be it friend, son, daughter, husband, wife. I want to tow this school of thought, this Truth but really don’t know if I am doing it right especially with respect to the experiences of (c). I want colleagues in the same career, health workers, from the same geographical area etc suffering the effects of karma like myself to follow the same path. Unfortunately they see my thought as unchristian drawing them away from Christian beliefs. But I do know that child is made to follow a particular path even though he/she is ignorant thus achieving the desired result. How can this be implemented in my country Nigeria?
Remain blessed

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