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Re: The LED Evolution: Revolutionizing Lighting by Noble11(m): 8:38am On Jul 31, 2016
Good topic...
This is my own contribution especially for the small scale importers..
There is a new LED BULB that's rechargeable,it can last up to 5 hours when light goes off and its automatic..I don't know if it's in Nigeria yet..
I made a good fortune importing from China to Kenya also the first person to do it there,but it has flooded the market now..so I think it can sell in Nigeria,as you know we don't have enough electricity..comes from 5 watts to 12 watts..also can be used as candle or touch
You can get them from Alibaba if you don't have an agent already.

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Re: The LED Evolution: Revolutionizing Lighting by allCopacetic: 8:48am On Jul 31, 2016
talk2riel:
but they are expensive and fragile. 6*6 feet cost well above 18000 , a little trip from the choke and the fitting is gone
That would depend on your understanding of Expensive,
We need to be more calculative in our cost/benefit analysis

LED bulbs are cheaper to use than CFLs (spiral bulbs) not just in terms of energy costs but in replacement costs aswell. The savings you make from the use of LED lamps can offset your initial investment within months.

consider this

a phillips 20w spiral bulb for instance cost about 650-700, while a phillips 6W led bulb (which arguably produces more illumination) cost about N1000

the current elcectricity tarrif for R2 Residential consumers (single phase) served by IKeja disco is approx N21

at 6 hours runtime per day, a 6w led will consume -(6x6x365)wh =13.14kWh in a year
working for the same length of time, a 20w cFL will consume- (20x6x365)=43.80kWh in a year

with the current tarrif regime it'll cost N(21x13.4)= N281 to run a 6W led bulb,for 6 hrs a day, for one year
while it cost N(21x43.cool =N919.8 to run a 20W CFL bulb for the same period

which means for a household with just 10 bulbs you save N(9,198 -2810)= N6,388 every year for your choice of LED over CFL, and N24,784 for LED over a 60W incandecent bulb (using the same analysis as above)

in terms of replacement cost, LED bulbs are known to last 2 to 5 times longer than CFLs and 35 to 50 times longer than incandecent bulbs.
which means that in 2 to 5 years you would have spent more money buying CFLs than you would on LEDs .

The single most important thing is buying a good quality. And note the cost analysis above is for Phillips, which is one of the most expensive brand. there are less expensive alternatives that give good value too.

And about being fragile.. as said earlier, they are more durable than most other lamp forms, you just need to spend money on a good quality. these things are used all over the world, and are phasing out other lighting types. Nigeria is no different.
besides... 6ft x 6ft LED do you know what dimension you're talking about

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Re: The LED Evolution: Revolutionizing Lighting by allCopacetic: 8:54am On Jul 31, 2016
Noble11:
Good topic...
This is my own contribution especially for the small scale importers..
There is a new LED BULB that's rechargeable,it can last up to 5 hours when light goes off and its automatic..I don't know if it's in Nigeria yet..
I made a good fortune importing from China to Kenya also the first person to do it there,but it has flooded the market now..so I think it can sell in Nigeria,as you know we don't have enough electricity..comes from 5 watts to 12 watts..also can be used as candle or touch
You can get them from Alibaba if you don't have an agent already.

PERMISSION FROM THE OP PLEASE
The Nigerian market is flooded with them already.problem is, its mostly trashy quality.please one pic would have served just well. I'm trying to keep the posts here to the barest minimum and the pages as light as possible for easy reading. Hope you understand
Re: The LED Evolution: Revolutionizing Lighting by talk2riel: 9:02am On Jul 31, 2016
allCopacetic:

That would depend on your understanding of Expensive,
We need to be more calculative in our cost/benefit analysis

LED bulbs are cheaper to use than CFLs (spiral bulbs) not just in terms of energy costs but in replacement costs aswell. The savings you make from the use of LED lamps can offset your initial investment within months.

consider this

a phillips 20w spiral bulb for instance cost about 650-700, while a phillips 6W led bulb (which arguably produces more illumination) cost about N1000

the current elcectricity tarrif for R2 Residential consumers (single phase) served by IKeja disco is approx N21

at 6 hours runtime per day, a 6w led will consume -(6x6x365)wh =13.14kWh in a year
working for the same length of time, a 20w cFL will consume- (20x6x365)=43.80kWh in a year

with the current tarrif regime it'll cost N(21x13.4)= N281 to run a 6W led bulb,for 6 hrs a day, for one year
while it cost N(21x43.cool =N919.8 to run a 20W CFL bulb for the same period

which means for a household with just 10 bulbs you save N(9,198 -2810)= N6,388 every year for your choice of LED over CFL, and N24,784 for LED over a 60W incandecent bulb (using the same analysis as above)

in terms of replacement cost, LED bulbs are known to last 2 to 5 times longer than CFLs and 35 to 50 times longer than incandecent bulbs.
which means that in 2 to 5 years you would have spent more money buying CFLs than you would on LEDs .

The single most important thing is buying a good quality. And note the cost analysis above is for Phillips, which is one of the most expensive brand. there are less expensive alternatives that give good value too.

And about being fragile.. as said earlier, they are more durable than most other lamp forms, you just need to spend money on a good quality. these things are used all over the world, and are phasing out other lighting types. Nigeria is no different.
besides... 6ft x 6ft LED do you know what dimension you're talking about
sorry I meant 2 x 2ft


As good as this economic Angle sound the risk of installing LED is just to high. I personally had to replace 5 unit on a site. A little fluctuation in current Burns them up.
Re: The LED Evolution: Revolutionizing Lighting by allCopacetic: 9:03am On Jul 31, 2016
topsy23:
Good idea brother.....my concern these days is the chaina made LED light that are flooded in nigeria market. There is a panel LED light I bought from Locks&Switches at Lagos island, one LED of 220mm diameter is N12,800
Thats the thing, people continue to waste thier hard earned money on fake items in pursuit of cheap prices. Buy good products and enjoy value.
There's nothing wrong with being made in china, some of the best qualities in the world are manufactured in China. The problem is the lack of enlightenment that is increasing the demand for fake things in Nigeria, and this is driving the supply, creating a flood of cheap substandard products.
Re: The LED Evolution: Revolutionizing Lighting by Noble11(m): 9:07am On Jul 31, 2016
allCopacetic:

The Nigerian market is flooded with them already.problem is, its mostly trashy quality.please one pic would have served just well. I'm trying to keep the posts here to the barest minimum and the pages as light as possible for easy reading. Hope you understand
Yes noted..thanks
Re: The LED Evolution: Revolutionizing Lighting by allCopacetic: 9:12am On Jul 31, 2016
talk2riel:

sorry I meant 2 x 2ft


As good as this economic Angle sound the risk of installing LED is just to high. I personally had to replace 5 unit on a site. A little fluctuation in current Burns them up.
That would depend on the quality/brand you buy, I'm sure it probably has a generic driver. people have used these things for years. besides you can replace just the driver in the event that it burns out
Re: The LED Evolution: Revolutionizing Lighting by allCopacetic: 9:17am On Jul 31, 2016
3.Manufac. specifications
Sadly not many bother to read product specifications. most times the information you need to guide your choice is right in front of you.

from the listed specs on the drivers below you’ll notice the branded drivers can both output 300mA, while the generic outputs just 110mA that’s only about one third the output current produced by the other two.

Re: The LED Evolution: Revolutionizing Lighting by allCopacetic: 9:29am On Jul 31, 2016
4. Distinctive/innovative features -
New or distinctive features will constantly be added to good products to improve functionalilty. If you look at the clips on the sides of the two branded panel lights below you’ll notice the extra plastic added to make clip sturdier and the grip firmer. Manufacturers of generic brands wont bother with extra features like that because they’re gunning for low costs

Re: The LED Evolution: Revolutionizing Lighting by Muyiii(m): 9:32am On Jul 31, 2016
Awesome post...I'm currently doing my PhD research on LED for data transmission (Li-Fi). Light fidelity...I'm glad such posts are springing up here. Thumbs up!

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Re: The LED Evolution: Revolutionizing Lighting by allCopacetic: 9:32am On Jul 31, 2016
Because LED lamps are generally very durable, (by virtue of the technology employed) and because electricity is barely existent here…. You can buy these cheap generic variants and they might serve you well for over six , twelve or more months. But If you get twelve months from a generic, be assured you’ll get considerably longer service from a higher quality branded . In addition , you’ll enjoy higher light output per watt (luminous efficacy) with the higher quality branded types .i.e you get brighter, more efficient lighting.
Re: The LED Evolution: Revolutionizing Lighting by ceaser: 9:32am On Jul 31, 2016
allCopacetic:
Generic products are generally cheap, mass produced options. They can be said to be made to no particular standard or quality index. They carry no branding or distinguishing feature . So anybody can print a pack with a brand name and package these generic lamps in it. One of the most important parts of an LED lamp is the LED driver. This converts AC to DC which the LEDs require to work. So when you buy any LED lamp look out for the quality of that driver.

So What do you look out for in an LED driver ? and how do the branded differ or distinguish themselves from the generic.


Very correct that generic products flood Nigerian markets. The good brands like Philip et al are more expensive. Some generics however equally works as good and last as good as the popular brands.

Also some LED drivers, usually having G4 connectors, are designed to adapt to either VAC or VDC (AC or DC voltage) input so long as the voltage source do not exceed the stipulated, usually 12/24 volts. The G4 drivers are also spared of polarity restrictions (no +ve or -ve to worry about as it works equally well both ways)

I recently finished constructing about 3 units of G4 LED drivers to replace some CFL security lights.
Re: The LED Evolution: Revolutionizing Lighting by Nobody: 9:41am On Jul 31, 2016
Hmmm
Re: The LED Evolution: Revolutionizing Lighting by ceaser: 9:44am On Jul 31, 2016
ITbomb:
Technological innovations were supposed to make things better, faster and cheaper.

In Nigeria, new products with almost the same capabilites as the previous products tends to be more expensive

It's normal for new techs to be initially expensive. The producers need to make returns from their years of researching the successful product. Also there is the issue of patent for some years. Once patent runs out and mass production by all players begin, prices crash.

Nigeria's case is always absurd though and defies logic.
Re: The LED Evolution: Revolutionizing Lighting by ceaser: 9:46am On Jul 31, 2016
omonighoblessing:
Good job op. this is more or less my seminar in my final year.
OLED ;organic light emitting diode.
more like the advance of LED.
OLED IS THE PRESENT OF LED NOW.....

What are you studying?
Re: The LED Evolution: Revolutionizing Lighting by allCopacetic: 9:49am On Jul 31, 2016
ceaser:


Very correct that generic products flood Nigerian markets. The good brands like Philip et al are more expensive. Some generics however equally works as good and last as good as the popular brands.

A lot of good brands are more inexpensive than phillips,

a generic cannot work as good or last as long as a higher quality branded if they work under the same conditions, in as much as the components differ in quality and specification.

Besides, if they're generic (unbranded) how do you identify the type that "might" last long. thats the essence branding, giving an identity to a specific quality.

regular LED drivers like all the above attached are not polarity sensitive either
Re: The LED Evolution: Revolutionizing Lighting by ceaser: 9:58am On Jul 31, 2016
talk2riel:

sorry I meant 2 x 2ft


As good as this economic Angle sound the risk of installing LED is just to high. I personally had to replace 5 unit on a site. A little fluctuation in current Burns them up.

Except those ones have the drivers integrated and sealed into the units, you may have needed to replace only the drivers without the hassle of replacing whole units. It's the cheap components in the drivers that usually burn out first, especially capacitors and resistors. Typically, the LED chips 'emselves outlast the drivers. In fact, you can even replace the LED chips with some knowledge in electronics (not electrical o grin).
Re: The LED Evolution: Revolutionizing Lighting by ceaser: 10:04am On Jul 31, 2016
Muyiii:
Awesome post...I'm currently doing my PhD research on LED for data transmission (Li-Fi). Light fidelity...I'm glad such posts are springing up here. Thumbs up!

You're working with Fibre optics with that?
Re: The LED Evolution: Revolutionizing Lighting by ceaser: 10:16am On Jul 31, 2016
allCopacetic:

Besides, if they're generic (unbranded) how do you identify the type that "might" last long. thats the essence branding, giving an identity to a specific quality.

regular LED drivers like all the above attached are not polarity sensitive either

Sorry, i just got the generic you mean now. I meant to say unpopular brands like the Philips.

220 VAC is not polarity restricted. But at the output terminals of some of the drivers above, the Vout usually ranges from 11.5VDC to 18 VDC and is polarity specific.

I was actually talking at the level of lower voltages of 12/24 VDC direct as the mains voltage. That's what powers all the lighting points in my crib. I avoid experimenting with 220 VAC na grin Na you be don for that department.

Working with LEDs can be pretty exciting. LEDs is taking over lighting like Lithium chemistries are taking over battery majorly from Lead acid and less majorly from nickel cadmium et al.
Re: The LED Evolution: Revolutionizing Lighting by midastouch: 11:05am On Jul 31, 2016
allCopacetic:
There's a revolution in the lighting market, and the catalyst is the light-emitting diode technology, better known as LED

An lamp is a light-emitting diode product which is assembled into a lamp (or light bulb) for use in lighting fixtures. LED lamps have a lifespan and electrical efficiency which are several times longer than incandescent lamps, and significantly more efficient than most fluorescent lamps, with some chips able to emit more than 300 lumens per watt (as claimed by some LED manufacturers). The LED lamp market is projected to grow by more than twelve-fold over the next decade

LED LIGHTING IS CURRENTLY WITHOUT QUESTION, THE SMART WAY TO GO

Over the years, lighting technology has evolved from the use of incandescent bulbs, to CFLs (spiral bulbs) and now LEDs. A significant difference from other light sources is that the light is more directional, i.e., emitted as a narrower beam. LED lamps are used for both general and special-purpose lighting. White-light LED lamps have longer life expectancy and higher efficiency (more light for the same electricity) than most other lighting when used at the proper temperature

...contd

Simple rules of grammar. You qualify a noun with "an", if only it starts with a vowel. If not you use "a".

Your sentence should start with 'A LED lamp..... ' not 'An LED lamp....'
Re: The LED Evolution: Revolutionizing Lighting by Saipro(m): 12:03pm On Jul 31, 2016
midastouch:


Simple rules of grammar. You qualify a noun with "an", if only it starts with a vowel. If not you use "a".

Your sentence should start with 'A LED lamp..... ' not 'An LED lamp....'

Actually, it's the starting sound (remember phonemes?) which determines the use of "a" "an" as a precursor. Pronounced "el-ee-dee" rather than "led", the OP is right. "An lamp" is wrong but "An LED lamp" is correct. Cheers.

*runs away for fear of being insulted*
Re: The LED Evolution: Revolutionizing Lighting by happydays1(m): 12:20pm On Jul 31, 2016
allCopacetic:

please open a thread for your advertising. Kindly remove this or i'll be forced to report this post
my friend ❕❗❕ did I put my phone number or address , moreover I don't even deal in led light..... if not that today is Sunday I would have. Mtcheeew in short.
Re: The LED Evolution: Revolutionizing Lighting by JSoE(f): 12:29pm On Jul 31, 2016
midastouch:


Simple rules of grammar. You qualify a noun with "an", if only it starts with a vowel. If not you use "a".

Your sentence should start with 'A LED lamp..... ' not 'An LED lamp....'

Depends on how you call it. If you pronounce it as 'led' then you use 'a' but if you spell it out as LED -/El i: di:/ that's when you can use 'an'.So logically,you two are correct.
Re: The LED Evolution: Revolutionizing Lighting by ceaser: 12:32pm On Jul 31, 2016
midastouch:


Simple rules of grammar. You qualify a noun with "an", if only it starts with a vowel. If not you use "a".

Your sentence should start with 'A LED lamp..... ' not 'An LED lamp....'

grin Bro. You are the wrong person. As one above pointed out, it's pronounced "el-ee-dee". I too had a hard time getting used to that cos even till date, I occasionally call it as it is: LED instead of calling out the acronym.
Re: The LED Evolution: Revolutionizing Lighting by Standing5(m): 1:24pm On Jul 31, 2016
ITbomb:
Technological innovations were supposed to make things better, faster and cheaper.

In Nigeria, new products with almost the same capabilites as the previous products tends to be more expensive
It is not all technological innovations that come cheaper at the onset. Electric cars and LED bulbs are example of such. One factor that makes Nigerias own even more expensive is the fake products factor.
Re: The LED Evolution: Revolutionizing Lighting by myatl101: 1:34pm On Jul 31, 2016
Thanks and I personal need a ono-on-one audience with you based on LED lightings.

Is it possible to do it via Whatsapp?
Re: The LED Evolution: Revolutionizing Lighting by bright007(f): 1:45pm On Jul 31, 2016
From Electrical engineering to English grammar... make una kwantinu.

very soon una go enter "Ede Yoruba"
Re: The LED Evolution: Revolutionizing Lighting by DesChyko: 2:10pm On Jul 31, 2016
Chief, bastardizing Ossymac products isn't a wise idea. You can use pictures alone without the label or mention product name without the pictures.
Re: The LED Evolution: Revolutionizing Lighting by skydancer: 2:20pm On Jul 31, 2016
Dude, please send me your contact and direct on how to buy

Thank you!
Re: The LED Evolution: Revolutionizing Lighting by Janyves(m): 2:53pm On Jul 31, 2016
CFL..... Led.... And their drivers are all not friendly with power surges. One needs a stable voltage source to enjoy their energy saving functions. .............
Re: The LED Evolution: Revolutionizing Lighting by allCopacetic: 2:58pm On Jul 31, 2016
DesChyko:
Chief, bastardizing Ossymac products isn't a wise idea. You can use pictures alone without the label or mention product name without the pictures.
Ossymac is shown here as an example of a branded product, and is one of our recommended Brands, please read and understand the posts correctly

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Re: The LED Evolution: Revolutionizing Lighting by allCopacetic: 3:15pm On Jul 31, 2016
skydancer:
Dude, please send me your contact and direct on how to buy
Thank you!
myatl101:
Thanks and I personal need a ono-on-one audience with you based on LED lightings.
Is it possible to do it via Whatsapp?
contact information in signature. Thanks

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