goldfish80:


Tevez was never a creative midfielder. I saw him captain Corinthians before Westham pulled a coup. He used to wear a choice hairstyle when at Corinthians.
Aguero played as a point man at the U20 world cup in Holland 05. Although he was largely a bench warmer. In 2007 WYC he featured, and won player of the tournament/top goal scorer as a striker.

The closest attempt to convert a midfielder to a striker has been Mario Goetze. The experiment has failed woefully so far.
I wouldn't rule out his diminutive stature to be a factor

goldfish80:


Tevez was never a creative midfielder. I saw him captain Corinthians and lead the lines before Westham pulled a coup. He used to wear a choice hairstyle when at Corinthians.
Aguero played as a point man at the U20 world cup in Holland 05. Although he was largely a bench warmer. In 2007 WYC he featured, and won player of the tournament/top goal scorer as a striker.

The closest attempt to convert a midfielder to a striker has been Mario Goetze. The experiment has failed woefully so far.
I wouldn't rule out his diminutive stature to be a factor

goldfish80:


Tevez was never a creative midfielder. I saw him captain Corinthians and lead the lines before Westham pulled a coup. He used to wear a choice hairstyle when at Corinthians.
Aguero played as a point man at the U20 world cup in Holland 05. Although he was largely a bench warmer. In 2007 WYC he featured, and won player of the tournament/top goal scorer as a striker.

The closest attempt to convert a midfielder to a striker has been Mario Goetze. The experiment has failed woefully so far.
I wouldn't rule out his diminutive stature to be a factor

goldfish80:


Tevez was never a creative midfielder. I saw him captain Corinthians and lead the lines before Westham pulled a coup. He used to wear a choice hairstyle when at Corinthians.
Aguero played as a point man at the U20 world cup in Holland 05. Although he was largely a bench warmer. In 2007 WYC he featured, and won player of the tournament/top goal scorer as a striker.

The closest attempt to convert a midfielder to a striker has been Mario Goetze. The experiment has failed woefully so far.
I wouldn't rule out his diminutive stature to be a factor

goldfish80:


Tevez was never a creative midfielder. I saw him captain Corinthians and lead the lines before Westham pulled a coup. He used to wear a choice hairstyle when at Corinthians.
Aguero played as a point man at the U20 world cup in Holland 05. Although he was largely a bench warmer. In 2007 WYC he featured, and won player of the tournament/top goal scorer as a striker.

The closest attempt to convert a midfielder to a striker has been Mario Goetze. The experiment has failed woefully so far.
I wouldn't rule out his diminutive stature to be a factor

thegoodjoehunt3:


I can tell you Tevez blew after Riquelme left Boca.

goldfish80:


I would have to disagree with you on this. Tevez was the top striker for Boca juniors before leaving for Brazil. When he left Boca, they brought in Rodrigo Palacio who replaced him and took over his no9 Jersey.
I watched alot of South American league then on TV Africa. Palacio ripped it up and scored lots of goals for Boca.

His main position has never been attacking midfielder. Its like saying Nacho Monreal is listed as a Centre defender because Wenger stuck him there in a couple of game out of necessity.

goldfish80:


I would have to disagree with you on this. Tevez was the top striker for Boca juniors before leaving for Brazil. When he left Boca, they brought in Rodrigo Palacio who replaced him and took over his no9 Jersey.
I watched alot of South American league then on TV Africa. Palacio ripped it up and scored lots of goals for Boca.

His main position has never been attacking midfielder. Its like saying Nacho Monreal is listed as a Centre defender because Wenger stuck him there in a couple of game out of necessity.

thegoodjoehunt3:


You feel I did not watch a lot of South American League. I can give you two names that people do not talk about. Insua. Played for Independiente. Brilliant player.

Liduena, mixed Argentine baller, brilliant for River Plate. I watched Saviola and D'Alessandro at River. I can tell you Saviola went first. He left the club and D'Alessandro finish ball in River.

Just leave that side. My own is not South American. My own is Argentine.

I loved Tiki Taka before Wenger became popular at Arsenal.

goldfish80:


D'alexandro was mercurial. His left foot was sweet. I thought he would become a big hit R. Carlos when he left South America.
You didnt mention Rogerio Ceni. The free kick scoring goalie.
There was a certain Obina who played for Flamengo, I used to think he was Nigerian because of the name.
There was a certain Christian Ladesma, Soriano, Robinho...

Anyway, I would have to see Tevez play as a 10 to really believe.
People saying he was the new Maradona should be disregarded in this argument. Remember, Saviola and Pablo Aimar were once touted to be the new Maradona. Yet they lead the lines

goldfish80:


D'alexandro was mercurial. His left foot was sweet. I thought he would become a big hit R. Carlos when he left South America.
You didnt mention Rogerio Ceni. The free kick scoring goalie.
There was a certain Obina who played for Flamengo, I used to think he was Nigerian because of the name.
There was a certain Christian Ladesma, Soriano, Robinho...

Anyway, I would have to see Tevez play as a 10 to really believe.
People saying he was the new Maradona should be disregarded in this argument. Remember, Saviola and Pablo Aimar were once touted to be the new Maradona. Yet they lead the lines

thegoodjoehunt3:


I was not really into Saviola because he spent most times upfront. Unlike the others who dropped deep during games.

Aimar. Wonderful. He was one who shocked me that he flopped. His first Champions League run in Europe was nice. As a young teen, he played in the final with Valencia.

Maradona said Aimar was the only footballer he would pay money to watch.

Aimar's flop coincided with the rise of David Silva. My love for South American football especially Argentina shifted to Spain because of the similarities in style.

Silva rose and Aimar went.

I did not hop on the Messi Bandwagon because of the flops of the likes of Ortega, Gallardo, D'Alessandro, Insua, Saviola (Who I thought was the truest footballer after his U20 14 goals) etc. They all flopped.

Tevez and Messi impressed me because they lasted more than the others.

Either way, hence Etebor can finish, I feel with his midfield knowledge, he can do more upfront. Although it does not matter much now because Siasia presses his team high up to field. He will get his chance to score more. However I see his role changing as the years passes.

Did you watched Jo, Hernanes, Diego Ribasa, Gil, Ganso, in Brazil?


What of De Federico and Pastore at Hurracan. Did you watch Falcao Garcia and Sanchez at River Plate?

thegoodjoehunt3:


My best team in South America is River Plate. I like their passing style.

goldfish80:


I saw alot of Jo before he was snapped up by Manchester City. I never rated him from day one. I always knew something was not right with that boy. His skills on the ball as not polished although I thought he was capable of finishing but that never proved that case.

You remember Bernard? Nobody seem to remember him since he went to Ukraine. I think the war in Ukraine gave him alot of trauma.

Aimar was mercurial. But I think his problem was getting on the physical side of things. He always shyed away from digging in.
If he had the mental strength of a Veron or Riquelme, he would have been bigger.

Naturally, I followed Pastore, there's this thing I love with left footed players. I love their skills, deft touched and poise on the ball. I find it mesmerising.

Remember, Vagnar love at Palmeras, Fred, Danny Calvaho, Robinho (lol), Cicinho.

Another curious case is Luisao. The Benefica defender. He has had a solid career in Portugal but I've always rated him and thought he would make it in a bigger league. He is better than Dante, Alex and co in my opinion.
He over stayed in Portugal that's why people don't know how good he is.

goldfish80:

Their pressing style was created by Danny Passarella. He is like the Cruyff of Argentina. I watched them alot.
Especially when they had Higuain, he scored for fun. I knew he would blow when he got to Europe.
They replaced him with Falcao, who went goal gaga. I was surprised when Porto bought him. I thought one of the bigger teams in Europe will snap him up from Argentina.

My favourite South American team is Boca Juniors . I love the way they strangled teams at the Bombabnera. Lol

thegoodjoehunt3:


Your a Boca man. So during the Classic games, we are on opposing sides. That is nice to hear. I guess you watched loads of Araujo.

I am a huge Pastore fan. I was impressed when Eric Cantona picked him as one of the best.

goldfish80:

Sergio Araujo is a good little player. I like him as a footballer, he is capable although the down side is his physical strength and tendency to be selfish.
His counterpart at River Plate was Lucas Ocampus. He was hyped up like mad.... I think Madrid was going for him at a point.
It's sad they both haven't blown like people would have thought.

Honorable mention to Martin Palermo. He scored shiit load of goals for Boca. Remember Juan Pablo Angel when he played for River Plate?

Another SA player I expected so much from was Juan Itturbe. He is another left-footed bomber. I can't explain how he fell so bad and ended up at Bournemouth very early in his career.

But of these boys, the best of the lot has to be Dybala. I rate him very very highly. He could is another £100m player in the making. His kinetics looks good.. He's so similar to Aguero.
Juventus pulled a coup to get him from Palermo.

What's your opinion on the new super eagles manager from Germany?

goldfish80:

Sergio Araujo is a good little player. I like him as a footballer, he is capable although the down side is his physical strength and tendency to be selfish.
His counterpart at River Plate was Lucas Ocampus. He was hyped up like mad.... I think Madrid was going for him at a point.
It's sad they both haven't blown like people would have thought.

Honorable mention to Martin Palermo. He scored shiit load of goals for Boca. Remember Juan Pablo Angel when he played for River Plate?

Another SA player I expected so much from was Juan Itturbe. He is another left-footed bomber. I can't explain how he fell so bad and ended up at Bournemouth very early in his career.

But of these boys, the best of the lot has to be Dybala. I rate him very very highly. He could is another £100m player in the making. His kinetics looks good.. He's so similar to Aguero.
Juventus pulled a coup to get him from Palermo.

What's your opinion on the new super eagles manager from Germany?

tbaba1234:
So Berisha is in the Swedish team. The golden boot win of the under 17 world cup.

Sweden are the European champs at this level so it will be a tough game.

I hope siasia has made adjustments.

thegoodjoehunt3:


Ocampos hype did not have part 2. Man City was also interested in making a big move for him. I think it was Passarella who blocked that move of Ocampos because of greed and wanting more money. Similar to what is going on with Chibueze of the U20.

The offers for Ocampos came but Passarella wanted more money. He held on to the player to long until his value dropped. Erik Lamela escaped. He was another held too long. From when Barcelona cam for him when he was Thirteen with the Junior team.

He escaped the last time.

Martin Palermo, genius. Sad he did not have a brilliant European. His value dropped when he missed three penalty kicks in one match. His flop at Villareal baffled me. He had all it took to become another great like Forlan and Falcao.

Glad he picked himself and ended on a high.

Juan Manuel Iturbe, young genius. In his young teens, was among the reserve squad of Argentina in 2010 World Cup. I think e missed out choosing Argentina our Paraguay.

He would have been fast tracked into the Paraguayan squad, stayed in the limelight and still be a top player. The Argentine creative midfield attack competition is too high. I thought he would blow at Porto but he flopped. Same happened with Walter at Porto but Iturbe fared better than Porto.

Another that carried mad hype was Villalva. I thought that was another Aguero in the making. When you see these guys at 15 - 16 yrs, their abilities are frightening. You think they are the real deal but few turn out.

Even My Boy Buonanote. He looked the real deal before the tragic car crash that claimed the lives of his friends.

I also enjoyed Ever Banega at Boca. I was scared he would not make it. He did and I hope he succeeds at Inter. Felt he was the perfect replacement for Xavi. Enrique did not think so and Picked Rakitic over Ever.

goldfish80:


Juan Itturbe plays for Paraguay. He declared earlier he wanted to turn out for Argentina but it didn't work out finally. I think Porto binned him because of his attitude. He probably was thinking he is a big player and didn't bother to put in much work in training. His constant running to twitter to whinge when not selected didn't go down too well with the Porto hierarchy.

Ever Banega is a pocket dynamite in midfield.
Himself and Fernando Gago ran the show for Boca at the time. Its hard to believe he is under 30.

Am surprised Diego Simeone didn't snap him up. He would have been great playing along side someone like Koke. They will have naturally pressed and harassed teams to death.

I don't know much about Bounanote.

Erik Lamela is another one of those sweet lefties. I was wowed when I watched him closely at the U20 championship before he went to Roma. He's a bit like a left footed Kaka.

What do you know about the new super eagles manager? Rohr

thegoodjoehunt3:


I expect a tough game. After their performance against Columbia who are one of the favorites in this tourney, We need to take Sweden seriously and as a big threat.

They took the lead against Columbia before a mistake by the defender handling the ball in the box got Columbia the Equalizer.

I hope we are cautious in this game. The Swedes are a technical side with strong midfielders.

We need to keep it tight at the back. With our boys rested and Seth noting his mistakes from the first game, I see us scaling through. I hope we win this one.

thegoodjoehunt3:


I expect a tough game. After their performance against Columbia who are one of the favorites in this tourney, We need to take Sweden seriously and as a big threat.

They took the lead against Columbia before a mistake by the defender handling the ball in the box got Columbia the Equalizer.

I hope we are cautious in this game. The Swedes are a technical side with strong midfielders.

We need to keep it tight at the back. With our boys rested and Seth noting his mistakes from the first game, I see us scaling through. I hope we win this one.

goldfish80:

Did you watch his Burkina Faso or Gabon side? I heard he did well in a couple of African countries.

I did a little dig on him and found out he discovered Zidane and Lizarazou while at Bordeaux.

I don't know what to expect of him in terms of tactics being that he is an old school German coach. Although he has a lot of influence from France.

Something strikes me as well that he is a highly committed and industrious individual.
His work in Africa earned him German football ambassador award.
He works as an analyst on French TV too. He's quite popular in France.

In the end, I think we may have someone who will roll his sleeves and get his hands dirty to get the job done.
He looks like someone who has eye for talents too judging by the work in Burkina Faso with their academies.

Am just trying to draw out positives.

tbaba1234:


I see a very hard game. We can not win with that defence. Sweden are very organised and European champs.

tbaba1234:


The good thing about Rohr is that he does not need the money. He owns a hotel in france or so. He simply wants to work.

One commentator on twitter who knows him well was wondering why he will want to come to Nigeria given our record with coaches.