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4everGod:
If you are in a burning kitchen and you cannot take the heat neither can you escape the fire what would you do?

Wouldn't you join the fire?

They better begin to join the fire of the gospel now before we release more fire and more heat.

Muafrika2:



After throwing the first stone, our atheists can't handle the heat

KingEbukasBlog:
. Very true . We were on our own and then they started the impious attacks and vilipendency and now we launched reprisal attacks they are now running for cover and complaining . And mi dear , we just took a short break after round 1 and they are complaining When we resume with heavier attacks I wonder what their reaction would be .

How atheists come into our threads

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How they leave

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNbkuJyUsAAQ4PE.jpg

KingEbukasBlog:
. Very true . We were on our own and then they started the impious attacks and vilipendency and now we launched reprisal attacks they are now running for cover and complaining . And mi dear , we just took a short break after round 1 and they are complaining When we resume with heavier attacks I wonder what their reaction would be .

How atheists come into our threads

[img]https://ferrelljenkins.files./2008/03/jerash_soldiers_sm.jpg[/img]

How they leave

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNbkuJyUsAAQ4PE.jpg

Scholar8200:
Now Johnnydon here said all atheists here were once theists.

Now, as an atheist, can you sincerely say that your journey to atheism started basically and solely as a result of intellectually discovery rather than an emotional/moral issue for which you later sought and got many intellectual resources to strengthen?

4everGod:
Ebuka u no go kill person o. Lwtmb

donnffd:
Yes, i can

It started with reading and understanding Evolution years back, i wasnt an atheist immediately, but that was the moment the intellectual quest started that made me ultimately look for God and could not find him.

donnffd:
Yes, i can

It started with reading and understanding Evolution years back, i wasnt an atheist immediately, but that was the moment the intellectual quest started that made me ultimately look for God and could not find him.

donnffd:
Yes, i can

It started with reading and understanding Evolution years back, i wasnt an atheist immediately, but that was the moment the intellectual quest started that made me ultimately look for God and could not find him.

4everGod:
Pls tell us how you supposedly looked for God!

KingEbukasBlog:
True . They always say that they looked for God with no cogent proof . We all found God so it means he was not doing it right

4everGod:
Pls tell us how you supposedly looked for God!

Scholar8200:
How far had you gone as a theist before this time? (Your concluding statement suggests that you were not the spiritual type i.e theists with Christian, spiritual experiences.)

KingEbukasBlog:
Because you understood evolution does not mean it actually happened - macro-evolution I mean . I was an aficionado of alien conspiracy theories and read stories about claimants of alien visitations , it does not mean such ever happened . Plus there are numerous Christian evolutionists , so we need more than what you have given as your reason bro .

donnffd:
So being spiritual would change the fact that the bible records the age of the earth as 6000years but its actual age is 4.6billion?

i ddnt know that!

donnffd:
Reading the bible was the first step, many things did not add up, like how would the sun stand still if it is always standing still in respect to the earth?, or why some other tribe did not record an unusual day where the sun did not come out?...

I dug into history and researched about the origins of the bible and my findings werent too pleasant...

Then i prayed for God to reveal himself, but as usual, he was silent...

The process was long and tedious but cut long story short, i lost my faith...

donnffd:
I never said Evolution was what made me lose my faith, infact i was still a fervent christian after i accepted evolution as a fact, i believed God used it to create life on earth...I lost my faith for totally different reasons, Evolution was just the start of my intellectual quest for knowledge about the Natural world which really opened my eyes.

donnffd:
Reading the bible was the first step, many things did not add up, like how would the sun stand still if it is always standing still in respect to the earth?, or why some other tribe did not record an unusual day where the sun did not come out?...

I dug into history and researched about the origins of the bible and my findings werent too pleasant...

Then i prayed for God to reveal himself, but as usual, he was silent...

The process was long and tedious but cut long story short, i lost my faith...

4everGod:
God never responds to the double minded as He declared that the double minded should not think they would receive anything from God.

Anyone can say they looked for God. Besides nobody looks for God in the real sense of the word. What happens is we make ourselves available to Him because He it is who actually looks for us.

You need to first be in a position of availability in your heart before you do what you term as "looking for God". Without a desire or willingness He is lost to you...God is not an experiment!

donnffd:
I never said Evolution was what made me lose my faith, infact i was still a fervent christian after i accepted evolution as a fact, i believed God used it to create life on earth...I lost my faith for totally different reasons, Evolution was just the start of my intellectual quest for knowledge about the Natural world which really opened my eyes.

4everGod:
First of all for the sun to stand still does not mean it actually did. The language used then was not that of today. The sun standing still simply meant 24 hrs daylight which we all know the sun stands for day while the moon for night and both were seen on that day so its assumed that the sun did stand still but God actually allowed the day to continue for 24hrs.

I do not think you researched the history of the bible because if you did truly then you would realise it is 98% accurate in terms of events and occurrences.

Praying to God to reveal Himself to you for what purpose? Jesus said blessed are they whom though have not seen yet believe....you do not expect to have God reveal Himself to you when you were already coming to Him with a heart of unbelief.

Your faith was already lost due to doubt so all you did was just to confirm your doubt so like I said you were already in doubt of God before seeking Him so that position was a faulty one.

Scholar8200:
Being spiritual would mean that you encountered God as the Bible reveals men encountered Him with the same results. Besides, kindly quote where that record is stated in the Bible.

ValentineMary:
Why should we conclude a deity made the world rather than making scientific enquiries to how the earth came about

Scholar8200:
Is that all? Were you actually seeking God or academic correctness? Besides, why was the Bible given - revelation of God, or satisfaction of finite man's limited intellect for all time?
It seems you approached the Bible for knowledge rather than for Life!

What had been the basis of this faith initially? If it was long and tedious then it seems you missed something and followed the wrong road!

KingEbukasBlog:
[size=15pt]Look at this hypocrite doing the same thing on this thread . LMAOOO [/size]

>>>> https://www.nairaland.com/2353987/three-arguments-gods-existence/47#47262395

cc : UyiIredia

Johnydon22 openly boasted of flooring UyiIredia's arguments and even claiming victory when all he did was fail egregiously in comprehending the arguments


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This is the same human being that publicly condemns what he does . Gosh ... eeewww and he brags like he has anything to offer other than singing songs , talking about planets he has never been to and claiming that God is a fictional character

Lmaoo . Winner01 ... you need to see this .

AnonyNymous:
Hello What's going on here

I would ask again, why didnt we have some tribe in the other part of the world record an unusual day where a night was longer than usual?, No records of that anywhere on the planet...

First of all, i ddnt research the events, i researched its inception, which was around 400AD, and why it was the 66books we ended up with, it turns out that God did not come down to choose these 66books, (oh wow, what a shocker), some clergymen sat down and debated on the books to be added into the final draft, and was revised many times...hmmmm.

Oh really, so i discover some loopholes in God's word, find out more about the real world and realize it doesnt correspond with what the bible says, i am freaking confuse, i dont want to lose my faith, then i remember what my pastor had always told me, "Prayer is the Key", I kneel down and ask God to reveal himself to me, and somehow i am the bad guy?...interesting

Who are you to tell me whether my faith was lost or not?, where you the one having the faith?...

donnffd:
Reading the bible was the first step, many things did not add up, like how would the sun stand still if it is always standing still in respect to the earth?, or why some other tribe did not record an unusual day where the sun did not come out?...

I dug into history and researched about the origins of the bible and my findings werent too pleasant...

Then i prayed for God to reveal himself, but as usual, he was silent...

The process was long and tedious but cut long story short, i lost my faith...

donnffd:
See how you guys cherry-pick,

Now the bible is for Life not for Knowledge, but the bible makes lots of claims about the Natural world that can be tested and as been tested and proven to be wrong...why should i approach a book which foundation was on fiction in the first place?

Your logic: Anybody who stops being a christian wasnt a christian in the first place...

Hard to argue with that kinda logic...

lordnicklaus:
Now this is a part that proved to be a problem to my comprehension. What I have as my only explanation is that God caused the earth to stop its rotational movement but the man who recorded this part of the text being primitive, thought the earth stood still.