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| Re: Systematically Dismantling Joshua 10:13: 'Sun Stand Still' by Nobody: 11:59pm On Aug 09, 2016 |
AnonyNymous:I am about going off to bed so do not wish to do lenghty writings. I gave you an assignment. Look it up so u can learn and be able have better and more knowledgeable arguments in future. You do not realise that the earths magnetic field from its core controls the spin of the inner and the outer core of the earth and that the inner core is spinning in an opposite direction from the outer core and that the inner core is rotating at a much faster spead than the earth itself and because its rotating in an opposite direction and is faster it is exerting a centripetal force on the earths surface? Go and study and stop displaying your ignorance here. |
| Re: Systematically Dismantling Joshua 10:13: 'Sun Stand Still' by felixomor: 12:02am On Aug 10, 2016 |
AnonyNymous:Hmm, ur reference sounds like a ghost one now. No names, no NASA page. Hehehehe, even CNN 1996 articles are still on their website for reference sake. Yet u claimed NASA came out. Somebody said he read it in 1997, hehehehe. Yeah rite |
| Re: Systematically Dismantling Joshua 10:13: 'Sun Stand Still' by Nobody: 12:05am On Aug 10, 2016 |
4everGod:Mr, you said if the earth suddenly stops then we don't fly off, we are attracted inwards, which is wrong. You should go back and ask your professors instead of repeating phrases you crammed. We fly out and not inwards. Right now as we are in Nigeria, close to the equator, we are moving at the same speed as the earth's surface here, close to 1680 km/h. If the earth suddenly stops, we fly off. that's basic knowledge. Knowledge of all these ones you're saying are not required for that basic understanding. Please consult your textbooks. Thanks. |
| Re: Systematically Dismantling Joshua 10:13: 'Sun Stand Still' by Nobody: 12:06am On Aug 10, 2016 |
felixomor:I'm not the one that removed it, click on the link and see NASA's message to you religious people. |
| Re: Systematically Dismantling Joshua 10:13: 'Sun Stand Still' by Nobody: 12:07am On Aug 10, 2016 |
AnonyNymous:centripetal force is irrespective of the gravitational attraction. That is the F=mRω2 F = m R ω 2 . Both of these are towards the center of the Earth. The thing to keep in mind here is that the surface of the Earth is also accelerating towards the center of the Earth. All this sounds strange to u I know so I dont blame u. Help yourself and get updated. |
| Re: Systematically Dismantling Joshua 10:13: 'Sun Stand Still' by felixomor: 12:09am On Aug 10, 2016 |
AnonyNymous:U never saw any NASA page, repent and stop lying!!!!! |
| Re: Systematically Dismantling Joshua 10:13: 'Sun Stand Still' by Nobody: 12:26am On Aug 10, 2016 |
AnonyNymous:The earth's rotation makes the weight of objects a little less at the equator. Gravity pulls down, but the object needs to accelerate in the downwards direction in order to stay in a circular path around the Earth's rotational axis in order to stay on the Earth's surface as it turns. The centripetal acceleration is about 3.39 cm/sec^2 at the equator which is about 0.35% the acceleration of gravity at the surface of the earth,. There is an additional lightening factor, in that the Earth bulges a little bit outwards at the equator because of its rotation, making objects on the surface just a little farther away from the center, also making them lighter. Which was why I said less rotation more gravity because the less the rotation then the less the resistance to the magnetic core. The physics of geography is totally unknown to you so update yourself from your secondary school knowledge of physics. |
| Re: Systematically Dismantling Joshua 10:13: 'Sun Stand Still' by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:50am On Aug 10, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord:Not this again , I've done this before . Here read and refute if you can KingEbukaNaija: |
| Re: Systematically Dismantling Joshua 10:13: 'Sun Stand Still' by Rankine(m): 1:09am On Aug 10, 2016 |
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| Re: Systematically Dismantling Joshua 10:13: 'Sun Stand Still' by CAPSLOCKED: 2:06am On Aug 10, 2016 |
AnonyNymous 3. But . . . but. . . what if it slowed down? The speed of the earth is gotten by using this formula: v = 2πr/t For the earth to slow down, such that a day will take 48 hours, lets calculate the speed the earth would be moving for a day to last 48 hours. (NB: radius of the earth is 6371km) v = (2 x 3.142 x 6371)/48 v = 834 km/h!! DON'T TRY TO RATIONALIZE THE WORDS OF THE LORD WITH YOUR "MERE MORTAL COMPARISONS", NOT EVEN WITH MATHEMATICS. GOD WILL SEND YOU TO HELL BECAUSE YOU KNOW MATHS BETTER THAN HE DOES AND THE DEVIL WILL LIKE THAT CUZ YOU BOTH DRINK THE SAME BRAND OF BEER. ![]() |
| Re: Systematically Dismantling Joshua 10:13: 'Sun Stand Still' by Nobody: 6:04am On Aug 10, 2016 |
That guy there doesn't know what he's saying. So sad that he keeps displaying his ignorance. I don't know who asked him for all those one's he's saying, but I'm tired of dragging back and forth with him. If the earth suddenly stops its rotation, we fly off. Go and ask ANY professor so that they'll clear your doubts., |
| Re: Systematically Dismantling Joshua 10:13: 'Sun Stand Still' by hopefulLandlord: 6:56am On Aug 10, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:Bros, stop regurgitating things over and over to make it stick I was not even saying its not atheist state But you did not refute that their leader is autotheist, then said he's a megalomaniac atheist In YOUR own words Actually autotheism falls under theism . But the fact still remains that North Korea's president is a megalomaniacal atheist who thinks He is god . His megalomania led to that state of confusionSo, what you basically did was admit he's an autotheist BUT stylishly twisted it to megalomaniac atheist in order to make him atheist |
| Re: Systematically Dismantling Joshua 10:13: 'Sun Stand Still' by Nobody: 7:23am On Aug 10, 2016 |
winner01:Already told my story on nairaland, no where did I mention that I was a bible fanatic. I saw the mistake I made before I posted, after all this thread's name has "Joshua" in it. I thought it would be fun to see people's reactions. I wasn't disappointed. |
| Re: Systematically Dismantling Joshua 10:13: 'Sun Stand Still' by Drinkwater06: 7:30am On Aug 10, 2016 |
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| Re: Systematically Dismantling Joshua 10:13: 'Sun Stand Still' by Nobody: 7:39am On Aug 10, 2016 |
AnonyNymous:You need to pause for a second and consider this so as to help your ignorance and your display of tomfoolery. In physics, an object's weight, FW, is defined as the earth's gravitational force on it. People commonly refer to the kilogram as a unit of weight, but the kilogram is a unit of mass, not weight. Note that an object's weight is not a fixed property of that object. Objects weigh more in some places than in others, depending on the local strength of gravity. It is their mass that always stays the same. This is your position below If the total force acting on an object is zero, its center of mass continues in the same state of motion. In other words, an object initially at rest is predicted to remain at rest if the total force acting on it is zero, and an object in motion remains in motion with the same velocity in the same direction. If we observe an object moving with constant velocity along a straight line, then the total force on it must be zero. What happens if the total force on an object is not zero? It accelerates! This is my position below [b]It is wrong to use cases when all the forces lie along the line of the center of mass's motion. For one thing, we can't analyze any case of horizontal motion, since any object on earth will be subject to a vertical gravitational force! For instance, when you are driving your car down a straight road, there are both horizontal forces and vertical forces. However, the vertical forces have no effect on the center of mass motion, because the road's upward force simply counteracts the earth's downward gravitational force and keeps the car from sinking into the ground. Suppose that an object has two sets of forces acting on it, one set along the line of the object's initial motion and another set perpendicular to the first set. If both sets of forces cancel, then the object's center of mass continues in the same state of motion. Suppose a coin is sliding to the right across a table, f, and let's choose a positive x axis that points to the right. The coin's velocity is positive, and we expect based on experience that it will slow down, i.e., its acceleration should be negative. Although the coin's motion is purely horizontal, it feels both vertical and horizontal forces. The Earth exerts a downward gravitational force F2 on it, and the table makes an upward force F3 that prevents the coin from sinking into the wood. In fact, without these vertical forces the horizontal frictional force wouldn't exist: surfaces don't exert friction against one another unless they are being pressed together. Although F2 and F3 contribute to the physics, they do so only indirectly. The only thing that directly relates to the acceleration along the horizontal direction is the horizontal force: a=F1/m. The earths inner core counter acts the earths outer rotation. The inner core controls the earths magnetism at its poles and due to its faster reverse spin to the earths itself it cancels out the effect of the outer spin of the earth so in essence the earth is spinning inwards and not outwards which in itself supports gravity.[/b] Again i tell you to go back to school. The physics of Geography is lost on you. |
| Re: Systematically Dismantling Joshua 10:13: 'Sun Stand Still' by Nobody: 7:47am On Aug 10, 2016 |
The attached picture is a simple illustration of how the earth spins inward and not outward. Gravity is simply the interaction of the magnetic earth with its rotation. Both properties are helping to keep the earth stable and in one singular mass.
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| Re: Systematically Dismantling Joshua 10:13: 'Sun Stand Still' by Nobody: 7:49am On Aug 10, 2016 |
Joshuabase:Are you minding them? When they have nothing tangible to say the resort to basic attacks which are irrelevant to the whole argument. Whether his name was Joshua or Daniel, it doesn't change the fact that the earth could not have suddenly stopped moving. |
| Re: Systematically Dismantling Joshua 10:13: 'Sun Stand Still' by Nobody: 8:00am On Aug 10, 2016 |
AnonyNymous:I asked you to read up on the dynamo effect and you refused and continued displaying your secondary school physics. Consider the attached pic. North and North repel North and south attract The earth itself is balancing itself by giving us a north and a south Pole which are both magnetic and which naturally attract but in order for this attraction not to implode something has to counteract it and balance it out which is the earths outer spin. The magnetic poles themselves are not self existing as their magnetic strenght is also maintained by the reverse spin of the earths inner core which is like a dynamo. This inner core spin keeps the magnetic earth constant and gravitational pull also constant while the outer slower spin ensures we do not implode. So we are spinning inward because if the outer rotation stops then the inner rotation would pull everything to itself with no resistance so your theory of everyone flying out to space makes me laugh.
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| Re: Systematically Dismantling Joshua 10:13: 'Sun Stand Still' by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:01am On Aug 10, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord:Please regurgitating means repeating information without comprehending it . I don't regurgitate and I explained perfectly what makes Kim an atheist especially point 2 and 4 . Megalomania logically explains why an atheist would think he is a deity just to subjugate and make his own people worship Him . Please read the points over and over again and then megalomania , maybe you'll understand . |
| Re: Systematically Dismantling Joshua 10:13: 'Sun Stand Still' by Nobody: 8:08am On Aug 10, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:The denseness of these guys is shocking! |
| Re: Systematically Dismantling Joshua 10:13: 'Sun Stand Still' by Nobody: 8:08am On Aug 10, 2016 |
4everGod:With everything I've said, you still think that if the earth suddenly stops its motion, we'll be attracted inwards, and I'm telling you THAT is wrong. Its really basic, honestly. **** By the way, in case you thought gravity was exclusive to the earth alone, you're wrong. There's a gravitational force between me and you, wherever you are in the world. As I've said, gravitational force is the force of attraction between any two bodies that have mass. There's gravitational force between me and my phone. So your definition of gravity is wrong. Its a very basic concept which you have shown that you don't have a complete understanding of. ***** As I'm walking down the road, the vertical forces do not affect me because they've been canceled out, where you are correct. The acceleration due to gravitational interaction with me and the earth is the same with any other body on the earth. But the force isn't. If this cup on my table experiences the same force as me (700N) it would break through the table as its being violently attracted to the centre of the earth. That's if the table can't resist a force of 700N. Your understanding of the concept of gravity is flawed and that's why you're openly displaying ignorance here. Just do a simple google search of what will happen if the earth stops its rotation and then admit that you're wrong. |
| Re: Systematically Dismantling Joshua 10:13: 'Sun Stand Still' by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:16am On Aug 10, 2016 |
4everGod:They have been brainwashed to believe they are always right and every word that proceeds out of their mouths is logical simply because they are atheists . Nice work bro on the lessons . I learnt something new yesterday unlike those who would remain adamant than concede to being wrong and still remain ignorant . Their wahala too much |
| Re: Systematically Dismantling Joshua 10:13: 'Sun Stand Still' by Nobody: 8:20am On Aug 10, 2016 |
AnonyNymous:We are done here! Your ignorance is giving me a headache. I even used simple diagrams to help you but you still know nothing. We are not talking about exceeding of anything! Neither are we talking about the same force being applied! You would only say this if the inner and outer earths rotation are occuring in the same direction and at the same rate. One spins in a faster reverse to the other. Inner core is faster and spinning east Outer earth is slower and spinning west The inner core is the dynamo powering our magnetic north and south and both attract. The outer spin controls the magnetic force generated so its inward pull is regulated. Humans do not have enough mass to possess a strong gravitational pull. More mass=stronger gravity. This is why on the moon there is less gravity, because the moon is smaller than earth. It is also why gravity is more prominent on Jupiter, because it is much larger (has more mass) than earth. What people feel is their personal interaction with the earth and not their self generating gravity because they do not have the mass for it. |
| Re: Systematically Dismantling Joshua 10:13: 'Sun Stand Still' by hopefulLandlord: 8:23am On Aug 10, 2016 |
| Re: Systematically Dismantling Joshua 10:13: 'Sun Stand Still' by dorox(m): 8:24am On Aug 10, 2016 |
AnonyNymous:You stated two possible ways many people think God could have used to make the sun appear to stand still to Joshua. And you correctly showed that the first one makes no sense as the the sun is already fixed relative to the earth and the second would be catastrophic for the earth and its inhabitants. Even though I agree with the op, I think your conclusion that God could not have made the sun to appear to be stationary is wrong because the options you provided are not the only ones. Take for example, and it is important to stress that it is just my opinion, God could have used any number of ways to superimpose a reflected image of the sun to a fixed spot in the sky. Using reflectors in space to superimpose the sun unto Joshuas location would not interfere with the earth's relative motion and its effect would be as localised as the size of the reflectors. |
| Re: Systematically Dismantling Joshua 10:13: 'Sun Stand Still' by Nobody: 8:25am On Aug 10, 2016 |
4everGod:Can you see yourself? Where did I say anything about the inner rotation continuing? I said if the earth stops rotating. You've realise dyoure wrong and are trying to justify yourself by putting words into my mouth. Abeg jare. The inner core which rotates faster than the outside of the earth is what sustains the earth's rotation. Our point here is to make it all stop, for the sake of the sun shining on only one side. So guy, stop putting words in my mouth. I said 'if the earth stops spinning'. |
| Re: Systematically Dismantling Joshua 10:13: 'Sun Stand Still' by hopefulLandlord: 8:27am On Aug 10, 2016 |
4everGod:AnonyNynous told you to simply. Just do a simple google search of what will happen if the earth stops its rotation You're not doing that, because you don't want to confirm your fears So far you're the only one saying we won't be displaced You've given no link to support your claim except a picture which you got from "Yahweh" knows where |
| Re: Systematically Dismantling Joshua 10:13: 'Sun Stand Still' by Nobody: 8:28am On Aug 10, 2016 |
AnonyNymous:smh! Your focus is day and night and in this context 24 hrs day right? How do we experience this? Is it based on the inner cores spin or the outer cores spin? Pray educate us. The inner core does not sustain the earths rotation. It sustains the magnetic field and its the magnetic field that interacts with the outer earths rotation...not the inner core. |
| Re: Systematically Dismantling Joshua 10:13: 'Sun Stand Still' by hopefulLandlord: 8:29am On Aug 10, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:You seem not to understand me I'm not saying you're wrong but I'll drop it |
| Re: Systematically Dismantling Joshua 10:13: 'Sun Stand Still' by Nobody: 8:33am On Aug 10, 2016 |
dorox:Ehen jare. Somebody that knows what he's saying. So if your god happened to provide a reflector to make the sun's light shine only on Joshua's region, its rational, if it were possible but its far fetched. Again it relies on your faith in Yahweh and not on logic. |
| Re: Systematically Dismantling Joshua 10:13: 'Sun Stand Still' by hahn(m): 8:40am On Aug 10, 2016 |
dorox:Where in the bible did you get this from? Or did you come to this conclusion yourself? |
| Re: Systematically Dismantling Joshua 10:13: 'Sun Stand Still' by Nobody: 8:42am On Aug 10, 2016 |
4everGod:Guy what's all this na. . . the magnetic field controls the direction of their rotation but its logical that one cannot spin without the other. That's what I meant by sustain. If the outer core stops then the inner core stops too. Abi do you want me to add the implications of only one stopping in the op, which is even far less rational? I said in my op that 'if the earth stops spinning'. The most logical way to describe that is if both stop spinning because one cannot spin without the other. Either way, saying Joshua made the sun stop by making the earth pause is rubbish. |
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The story has to be true right?? Because its in the bible! Its the BIBLE we're talking about here! So lets throw the words the other way round! The earth stopped moving!