hahn:
Op, you need Jesus.

God gave you the the life you have

donnffd:


Lol, bro, with a logic like that, i am tempted o

KingEbukasBlog:
STRAWMAN

very embarrassing ... Shameful ... Pathetic ... That's exactly what is expected from atheists

And desperate gullible atheists will embellish the daft strawman with likes

KingEbukasBlog:
STRAWMAN

very embarrassing ... Shameful ... Pathetic ... That's exactly what is expected from atheists

And desperate gullible atheists will embellish the daft strawman with likes

hahn:
Op, you need Jesus.
God gave you the the life you have

donnffd:
I dont know why Atheists here keep arguing with many theists, its a fruitless exercise, they obviously have a far more superior logic than you do

donnffd:

Atheist Logic : [s]it is possible for the universe to come out of Nothing[/s]
Theist Logic : That's nonsense, something cannot come from Nothing, but God can come from Nothing and can create the universe from Nothing

donnffd:

Atheist Logic : [s]Life arose from organic chemistry from a process we dont understand yet[/s]
Theist Logic : That's absolute nonsense, Life cannot come from Non-life, Life just appeared magically by the command of God

donnffd:

Atheist Logic : [s]Men mutated from Women, we all started female, and thats why men have two useless nipples.[/s]
Theist Logic : Thats so illogical, Women were formed from one rib of a Man, that makes more sense and far more logical

donnffd:
Atheist Logic : Science is the best route to Knowledge
Theist Logic : That seems fair only if it corresponds with what some goat-herders wrote thousands of years ago.

donnffd:

Atheist Logic : Death is a natural process of life
Theist Logic : Thats nonsense, There was originally no death(except for all other animals and plants and insects and pretty much all life), then man sinned against God, then we started dying like the rest of them...who can argue with that logic?

donnffd:

Atheist Logic : [s]We had the ice-age a few thousand years ago[/s]
Theist Logic : Thats nonsense, There was a global flood that killed the dinosaurs,mixed salt-water and fresh-water together, killed all life except for the once on a boat...Thats far more logical

donnffd:
How can you win with such an impressive display of logical prowress?

Richirich713:
What theist says "God can come from Nothing"?

Seems like a strawman.

Richirich713:
What theist says "God can come from Nothing"?

Seems like a strawman.

cloudgoddess:

Either that, or that "God doesn't need a cause".

cloudgoddess:

Theists commit the special pleading fallacy when they claim that God can be uncaused but the universe, in whatever form (whether a singularity, or a dispersed, expanding universe like we have today), can not be uncaused.

winner01:


Christian Logic: It has been proven that the universe had a beginning, the known dimensions of the universe include time and space. And these sprang into existence with the universe. Human, who are a product of the universe, absorb, reinforce and reflect within the CONFINES of time and space. What was in existence before time and space does not fit into the human brain. It cant even be called nothing. The human idea of nothing is a part of time and space.
Whoever was acting before the universe began is not subject to time (timeless) and space.
When something is timeless, it is eternal i.e no beginning, no end.
To ask who created an eternal being is to assume that this being is confined by time. But we know time has a beginning. We are talking of a God before the beginning. An Eternal God.

Christian Logic : Life really cannot come from non-life, every scientific evidence has pointed us back to the fact that life can only come from pre-existing life forms. The existence of life and available evidence defies all known scientific theories attempting to prove its origin. It is rational enough to believe that life came from the Giver of life

Genesis 1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. KJV

b]Christian Logic[/b]: There is no evolutionary need to mutate into a man, because it has greatly lowered the reproductive capabilities and reduced the chances of survivability of our species. The lower life forms such as bacteria, viruses and protozoa that we supposedly evolved from are sexless and far more prolific. If they can reproduce by far simpler methods, why can’t we? If evolution is true, what went wrong?
Also, before men allegedly mutated from women, how were the women reproducing, since they needed males to fertilize their eggs and ensure their continuity?
It takes greater faith to believe in nonsense than sense. Christians believe that God created male and female beings, and each of these reproduces after their kinds.

Bonus: Instead of calling the nipples useless, just say we dont know its importance yet, like you claimed in your second logic. Learning is an ongoing process, do not demonstrate infinite knowledge.

Christian Logic: The statement/conclusion that science is the best route to knowledge is in itself unscientific and unproven.

So we can see that such statement is a philosophical premise, not a scientific conclusion. The only way to definitively prove that science explains everything would be to have exhaustive knowledge of all reality, and then be able to explain (using only scientific data) what all reality is and what it means. Such a feat is impossible. Therefore, the belief that science is the best source of knowledge must be accepted on faith, since it cannot be verified through testing.

Also we need to ask why knowledge better is than ignorance since nothing matters. Atheists may respond that if you believe wrong things or don’t know enough about your environment, you’re less likely to survive and flourish. But this explanation only applies to a small amount of scientific knowledge. There is little survival value in knowing, for example, the complicated workings of time-space theory, or the genus of certain insects, or the distance from Jupiter to Mars. All of these facts are pursued by scientists as being intrinsically valuable, yet they offer little information that can help guarantee a species’ continued existence.

The real explanation is that scientists pursue these facts because there’s intrinsic value in knowing what’s true about the world, regardless of how much help it gives us. Human beings believe knowing is better than ignorance because they believe truth is better than falsity, and light is better than darkness. But where does such a conclusion come from? Not from scientific principles. Science itself offers no self-evident account for why it should be pursued. You cannot study science hard enough to understand why you should study science at all.

Christian Logic: The universe cannot create us to live, suffer and die. It does not follow. Mindlessness does not create mind.
There is a strain we feel everywhere, between the forces of ; Good and evil, Success and failure, Truth and err, Light and darkness and ultimately life and death. The contention of these forces are evident in our world. If death or any of those elements listed above is simply natural like everything, atheists wont contend with christians for the truth. Everyone seems to value truth even when some proclaim that the universe cares less about our truths or error. The atheists contention for the truth defies their claims of naturalistic purposelessness.
If humans did not arise by any known natural process, its makes sense to disregard death as a natural process.

There is enough proof that there was a global flood. Reasonable people are somewhat slaves to proof. All available evidence points in the direction of a Creator.
If you really believe the universe is all there is, the truth or falshood wont mean so much to you.

Muafrika2:

Are you posts getting hidden? I suspect nother ban is coming

KingEbukasBlog:


Nah ... a topic was hidden so my posts on that thread were then affected

Muafrika2:

Alright

winner01:
I also dont know why atheists spend so much time trying to convince people not to believe in God.
No single atheist has been able to outline the benefits of atheism over christianity, so why do they desperately want to take away the values of people who find happiness with God?
Beats me really!!

KingEbukasBlog:
Winner01 officially closed the thread with the excellent responses but watch the atheists preserver through their chagrin .

KingEbukasBlog:


Exactly !!!!Exactly !!! Oh my God exactly!!!

Ab initio mundi , we as Christians have been way better than they'll ever be , wealthier , more accomplished , more distinguished . smarter just name it . There is no proof atheism is the better choice yet they want people to become atheists Where is the logic in that


Why would anyone want to join a losing side Ewwww

4kings:

Atheism\irreligion\theism does not really have anything to do with wealth, smartness, etc
Those are as a result of one's efforts.

donnffd:


Yes, the universe had a beginning,but to assume that whatever started the universe was an eternal intelligent being is a very wild speculation. There are far more better explanations like it being a fluke accident in a 11-dimensional hyperspace, or two universes colliding, or even a mother universe spliting into half. How can you invoke intelligence where intelligence has no means of entering?

donnffd:

Stop playing a word game, Life came from non-life in the bible

donnffd:

So you end up in the same position where the scientists are, the only difference is that you are fine that life formed from dust, while science is trying to get "the real truth", how organic chemistry would interact to create a self-duplicating system.

donnffd:

To clear things up, sexual reproduction first arose about 550 million years ago, so you can see why we know very little about its origins. Modern man didnt mutate from modern woman, thats a very silly thing to say, the idea is that male forms were the mutated sex, and it happened when reproduction was very simple, due to evolution, sexual organ have become more complex thus resulting to sex for reproduction. I do not demonstrate infinite knowledge but Evolution explains why men have tips, creationism does not, not just human tips, other primates also have tips, so it has to explain theirs too.

I would be waiting...

donnffd:

We have had cilivilation for about 5000years prior to science, and where were we and then boom, science comes, and in just 500years, look what we know and what we have accomplished. If thats not evidence enough for you, then i dont know what else would suffice.

donnffd:

You asking why know the truth if its all for nothing is like asking why watch a movie if you know its all fake!, people watch movies, that doesnt mean there is a creator who imbed that in them, then why do you assume a creator for the former?

donnffd:

Well acquiring knowledge has been part and parcel of human evolution, we are naturals at wanting to know, it must have been an evolutionary aid in the past, it has gotten stuck to us now and we are building on it like every other quality we got from evolution(love, laughter, sorrow, aggressiveness e.t.c)

donnffd:

You cannot dictate what you want from the universe or not, the universe doesnt give a damn about what you want, its a brutal fact, your inability to comprehend that fact is why you are so religious and i get that but i would say and always say that it is better to accept reality for what it is than to have delusions no matter how reassuring they are.

donnffd:

Where exactly is this enough proof?

KingEbukasBlog:


You dont get it Seriously bro ? Atheists purport themselves as the aforementioned and indeed stats have proven their claims are false .

4kings:

donffd officially addressed his silly logic.

KingEbukasBlog:


His OP is suffused with logical fallacies and that's an inauspicious way to start an argument .

First logical fallacy: Strawman . The OP falsely represented the views of Christians so that he could be able to refute them - very pathetic . Of course his fellow atheists who liked his posts are either oblivious to this or they want to give the post a semblance of it being logical . This would make the readers draw false conclusions or have a pejorative perception of views held by Christians on the subject

Second logical fallacy : Shotgun argumentation . The OP presented so many arguments with the intent of overwhelming his opponent who would possibly not respond to all of them . Well winner01 did well by responding to all of them though they were fallacious . Observers would have thought we weren't capable of responding - a false conclusion or perception . Have you now seen why it is fallacious ?

His second post is just him try to salvage something , nothing more than that .

hahn:
Op, you need Jesus.

God gave you the the life you have

KingEbukasBlog:


Your memes have never made any sense

You are an atheist without evidence, logic and reason . You surmised that God does not exist because you find religious beliefs or concepts absurd .

You have a problem with religion not the existence of God . Why isn't any of you getting this

hahn:


GBAM! Exactly!

Religion is the main problem. You cannot have a problem with "God" because it doesn't exist.

The concept of a "God" doesn't exist outside religion. "God" was created by religious men.

If you say "God" is real I will ask you, which "God"?

If you say YOUR "God" is real I will ask you, "what about the other 4,200 Gods?"

If you say they are not real and yours is the realest, I will say "that is EXACTLY what they say about YOUR god"

Do you get it?

KingEbukasBlog:


Exactly !!!!Exactly !!! Oh my God exactly!!!

Ab initio mundi , we as Christians have been way better than they'll ever be , wealthier , more accomplished , more distinguished . smarter just name it . There is no proof atheism is the better choice yet they want people to become atheists Where is the logic in that


Why would anyone want to join a losing side Ewwww