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Going to UK to study with the intention of staying back is a waste of time and money. I have seen people that were working in good companies before leaving for UK for Msc., most of them are back in Nigeria now with no good job after spending a lot to get Masters

UK is like D. Trump

JW214:
Before you think marriage is the simplest thing to achieve a resident in the UK, please be aware that before you can marry a British(am not sure of EU) who can sponsor you as his or her spouse, both of you must be working and earning up to £12k or £18k (am not sure of the exact figure)

Lol bros - they are very soft on family stay, with or without money especially if she get belle

bikat:
sham marriage? Who said anything about sham marriage? Cant you fall in love and marry someone genuinely? As for me, I don't encourage the marriage route cos I got to find out that I LOVE THE BODY OF BLACK WOMEN. However, marriage is still an option if you fall in love for a white woman. there is nothing wrong with it.

I will agree with you that there is no need moaning about their immigration policy, nevertheless we can inform our people so that they know what they are getting into. Its just for information sake.

Yes sham marriage is what a lot of people encourage here and that is the sort of marriage you get in a 'quicky' for your money.

You just find out that you love the body of a black woman? Dude its not only white women that does sham marriage.

You don't spend at least 5 million just to come to the UK to look for a wife

bikat:
sham marriage? Who said anything about sham marriage? Cant you fall in love and marry someone genuinely? As for me, I don't encourage the marriage route cos I got to find out that I LOVE THE BODY OF BLACK WOMEN. However, marriage is still an option if you fall in love for a white woman. there is nothing wrong with it.

I will agree with you that there is no need moaning about their immigration policy, nevertheless we can inform our people so that they know what they are getting into. Its just for information sake.

But then again...a genuine student should research properly before leaving the shores of Nigeria. Its the number one skillset a student should have.

People like @sagamite don spoil show. He cannot graduate, works illegally and then will be coming to Naira land to take out his frustrations

Thank God its just this! I have been planning for the past six months, hopefully I'd get in early next year.

shinarambo1:
But then again...a genuine student should research properly before leaving the shores of Nigeria. Its the number one skillset a student should have.

No you see they don't do that because they think they can play the system, within 9months you have spent 4millions of your money and have just 6 months to leave the UK then desperate measures set in..sham marriage, credit card fraud, claiming to be gay etc.

Pedagogue:

Fair point.

But what the Op is saying is: Don't bother going to the UK if your intention is NOT to leave immediately after your programme.

You still don't get it? Let me explain.

Your masters programme gives you a Tier 4 visa status. That visa will expire about four months after the completion of your masters programme i.e. after you must have submitted your dissertation.


After this, you have three main options-Leave, marry a British citizen, or Work (by applying for Tier 2 visa or another Tier 4 visa-another masters).

The first two are straightforward. The last is technical. To apply for a Tier 2 visa, it must be a job that attracts nothing less than £20,800 per year. Believe me, only 1 out of 10000000000 can be that lucky!

Talking about becoming a British Citizen or a permanent resident (indefinite leave to remain) is another kettle of fish. With the new rules, you need to have lived in the UK for about 7-10 years (subject to certain exceptions) to be qualified to apply for permanent residency. It's insane.

Countries like Canada, New Zealand are more pro-immigrants. Don't waste your hard earned money.

I've taken my time to Give this free info because I don't want more Nigerians to fall for the UK deceit.However, If ALL you want is quality education (and nothing more), the U.K. should be your preferred choice.

but you havent explained how that is a deceit. What you have posted up there is public knowledge that can be obtained on UKBA or immigration sites. So how is that a deceit

shinarambo1:
Timing is essense. How would it have been easy to arrange msc transcript from nigeria..ask current guys trying to apply for express entry what they go through coupled with the rising exchange rate and selection point.

Also while in canada, having an msc from a uk university has opened does for me. canadians and australians respect uk alot. Its the motherland to them. Autralia even has a special visa for post grad of some specific uni, not sure a nigerian uni is listed in that program.

Also, the pgwp does not gaurantee a job in canada just like psw visa never gauranteed a job in the uk. Do you know how comoetitive it is in getting a good job in canada? canada has an extremely small widespread economy. Despite the removal of psw visa, guys that went to excellent uni's in uk still get jobs. A younger relative just got a job with woods engineering even before completing his msc from ucl.
Another from unisalford got a job with accenture before grad and these companies are sponsoring their visas.

Whereas i know nigerians with msc degrees from usask and u of c still hustling for jobs in canada. Now they are running out of their psw visa and don't even have enough points to qualify for express entry. its even almost impossible to qualify for express entry with anything less than a masters too in canada.

Irrespective of whether you graduate from US, UK, Denmark, Australia e.t.c if you are good, you wont have a problem migrating to other coutries in the world.

Please stop confusing interested people with worthless knowledge that seems to make sense at first glance. So you think going to the UK then returning to Nigeria before going to Canada is better than going straight to Canada? Canada does not discriminate in any way. People like you just come online and cause confusion when someone has some real sense to pass across to the public. When you have friends and family who are interested in leaving Nigeria for good, you should advice them to go to UK first to waste their hard earned money then return to Nigeria before applying to go to a country like Canada. It is this type of bad advise 2 of my friends received and went to the UK only to return to Nigeria. One even went as far as doing 2 masters in the UK, where are they today? They are both jobless in Nigeria trying to sort their lives out and just discovering they should have headed to Canada or Australia in the first place.

Again, keep this your advise for private use. Do not confuse people here. I am even surprised Justwise is supporting this your view that can ruin a person's destiny and destroy their family. Do you know some parents go as far as selling land and borrowing heavily just to send their kids abroad only for the kids to make the mistake of going to the UK and eventually being bounced back after their study.

justwise:
Yes sham marriage is what a lot of people encourage here and that is the sort of marriage you get in a 'quicky' for your money.

You just find out that you love the body of a black woman? Dude its not only white women that does sham marriage.

You don't spend at least 5 million just to come to the UK to look for a wife

Lol, Eddy Mofy do am in coming to America

True talk, God will not forgive them for the tuition fees they collect from us.

Jethrolite:
Please stop confusing interested people with worthless knowledge that seems to make sense at first glance. So you think going to the UK then returning to Nigeria before going to Canada is better than going straight to Canada? Canada does not discriminate in any way. People like you just come online and cause confusion when someone has some real sense to pass across to the public. When you have friends and family who are interested in leaving Nigeria for good, you should advice them to go to UK first to waste their hard earned money then return to Nigeria before applying to go to a country like Canada. It is this type of bad advise 2 of my friends received and went to the UK only to return to Nigeria. One even went as far as doing 2 masters in the UK, where are they today? They are both jobless in Nigeria trying to sort their lives out and just discovering they should have headed to Canada or Australia in the first place.

Again, keep this your advise for private use. Do not confuse people here. I am even surprised Justwise is supporting this your view that can ruin a person's destiny and destroy their family. Do you know some parents go as far as selling land and borrowing heavily just to send their kids abroad only for the kids to make the mistake of going to the UK and eventually being bounced back after their study.

Please can you just calm down? You read the wrong meaning into his post and come out smoking.

He did not say that one must travel to the UK first, he was just giving an example from his own experiences

Jethrolite:
Please stop confusing interested people with worthless knowledge that seems to make sense at first glance. So you think going to the UK then returning to Nigeria before going to Canada is better than going straight to Canada? Canada does not discriminate in any way. People like you just come online and cause confusion when someone has some real sense to pass across to the public. When you have friends and family who are interested in leaving Nigeria for good, you should advice them to go to UK first to waste their hard earned money then return to Nigeria before applying to go to a country like Canada. It is this type of bad advise 2 of my friends received and went to the UK only to return to Nigeria. One even went as far as doing 2 masters in the UK, where are they today? They are both jobless in Nigeria trying to sort their lives out and just discovering they should have headed to Canada or Australia in the first place.

Again, keep this your advise for private use. Do not confuse people here. I am even surprised Justwise is supporting this your view that can ruin a person's destiny and destroy their family. Do you know some parents go as far as selling land and borrowing heavily just to send their kids abroad only for the kids to make the mistake of going to the UK and eventually being bounced back after their study.

you lack comprehension skills. You are the type that spends millions on education then turn around and blame everyone but yourself for not researching properly.
You have not studied, lived or work in the Uk or Canada, so you know nothing. I have been there and done that, so i have an opinion.

Abukc:
Obama pikin never think of 9ja degree for once,but. Buhari pikin won. Graduate from oxford and cambridge university even you that read the post.The BIG question is WHY do we all hungry to travel or study abroad

My brother, the difference is clear

justwise:
No you see they don't do that because they think they can play the system, within 9months you have spent 4millions of your money and have just 6 months to leave the UK then desperate measures set in..sham marriage, credit card fraud, claiming to be gay etc.

lol lol @ claiming to be gay. Nija no go kill us

Jethrolite:
Please stop confusing interested people with worthless knowledge that seems to make sense at first glance. So you think going to the UK then returning to Nigeria before going to Canada is better than going straight to Canada? Canada does not discriminate in any way. People like you just come online and cause confusion when someone has some real sense to pass across to the public. When you have friends and family who are interested in leaving Nigeria for good, you should advice them to go to UK first to waste their hard earned money then return to Nigeria before applying to go to a country like Canada. It is this type of bad advise 2 of my friends received and went to the UK only to return to Nigeria. One even went as far as doing 2 masters in the UK, where are they today? They are both jobless in Nigeria trying to sort their lives out and just discovering they should have headed to Canada or Australia in the first place.

Again, keep this your advise for private use. Do not confuse people here. I am even surprised Justwise is supporting this your view that can ruin a person's destiny and destroy their family. Do you know some parents go as far as selling land and borrowing heavily just to send their kids abroad only for the kids to make the mistake of going to the UK and eventually being bounced back after their study.

This guy is really angry but to be honest. Knowledge and information is POWER

If you are good, you will always get a good job. God go bless your hustle anywhere.

shinarambo1:
Timing is essense. How would it have been easy to arrange msc transcript from nigeria..ask current guys trying to apply for express entry what they go through coupled with the rising exchange rate and selection point.

Also while in canada, having an msc from a uk university has opened does for me. canadians and australians respect uk alot. Its the motherland to them. Autralia even has a special visa for post grad of some specific uni, not sure a nigerian uni is listed in that program.

Also, the pgwp does not gaurantee a job in canada just like psw visa never gauranteed a job in the uk. Do you know how comoetitive it is in getting a good job in canada? canada has an extremely small widespread economy. Despite the removal of psw visa, guys that went to excellent uni's in uk still get jobs. A younger relative just got a job with woods engineering even before completing his msc from ucl.
Another from unisalford got a job with accenture before grad and these companies are sponsoring their visas.

Whereas i know nigerians with msc degrees from usask and u of c still hustling for jobs in canada. Now they are running out of their psw visa and don't even have enough points to qualify for express entry. its even almost impossible to qualify for express entry with anything less than a masters too in canada.

Irrespective of whether you graduate from US, UK, Denmark, Australia e.t.c if you are good, you wont have a problem migrating to other coutries in the world.

why would anyone even spend millions of naira without doing a proper research
Some are even claiming deceit...pathetic. lol.

justwise:
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Please can you just calm down? You read the wrong meaning into his post and come out smoking.

He did not say that one must travel to the UK first, he was just giving an example from his own experiences

I'm very calm right here, we are still turning round and coming to the same point. Op is passing a very critical message across to people especially those who getting a foreign degree is not the primary reason they find themselves in a foreign university but sharing his own experience and the way he is sharing it is like those who are already making a terrible mistake have hope in the future. We both know as we write there are people that are processing admission at various stages, have done visa application and there are some that have gotten visa and waiting to resume. Isn't it better those that have gained admission or applied for visa or even waiting to travel to the UK get a clear story that they are on the wrong path now, cut their losses and see if they can meet up with 2017 winter or spring session in Canada?

We should remember once again that the primary audience for this thread are not rich kids who simply want to study in the UK then return home but people whose intention is to kiss Nigeria and the hard life goodbye until further notice.

HAMZGRAZ:
If you are good, you will always get a good job. God go bless your hustle anywhere.

exactly. if you are good, nothing stops you from achieveing whatsoever you desire. That same nigeria people are running from, i know people that have excellent jobs that take them all over the world. yet all they have is their bsc from oau or unilag. some are even hnd from yabatech. Like i said...if you are good. you would always make it irrespective of any country you go for your masters. only sore losers whine all day about a country deceiving them.

8BitGee:
Hear hear. There can be nothing more factual. I know my people won't listen sha. I didn't too.

What makes coming to the UK attractive to Nigerians is the simple admission process, no English language tests or GRE. If you're qualified, you'll be admitted.

I know what usually runs through Nigerians minds when you advise them not to come is, "he is in the UK enjoying, look at how fat his cheeks have become and he's telling me not to come. Wicked boy".

On point

shinarambo1:
it all depends. I wont be a citizen of canada today if not for my UK masters degree. So many of my friends took up citinzinship in Australia too. Our MSc from the UK gave us high scores in immigration programs of those countries.

Bros you have a PM

bikat:
I am 100% sure that Canadian Federal Express Entry immigration programme will give someone who has a masters from Nigeria, the same score they will give to another person with a UK masters. All they require is a degree that is equivalent to Canadian degree. If you use World Education Services or other company, you will discover that a Nigerian masters is equivalent with a UK masters. I am 100% sure of this.

German Masters nko

bikat:
This guy is really angry but to be honest. Knowledge and information is POWER

If you have first hand experience of what some families are going through because of UK travel matter, you will know no part of the story is funny especially after the sponsored child returns with his masters.

shinarambo1:
exactly. if you are good, nothing stops you from achieveing whatsoever you desire. That same nigeria people are running from, i know people that have excellent jobs that take them all over the world. yet all they have is their bsc from oau or unilag. some are even hnd from yabatech. Like i said...if you are good. you would always make it irrespective of any country you go for your masters. only sore losers whine all day about a country deceiving them.

If u are in a country whose policies are not favourable if u like be good for africa , it will still be hard . How can someone know you are good when you are not even given the opportunity to present yourself

Most companies will not accept your CV if you need work visa not to talk of hearing your voice or ability....

Obiwannn:
Bros you have a PM

i am at work. its 10.50 am here. i would reply your pm when m off work at 5pm. most likely midnight in nigeria.

Jethrolite:
I'm very calm right here, we are still turning round and coming to the same point. Op is passing a very critical message across to people especially those who getting a foreign degree is not the primary reason they find themselves in a foreign university but sharing his own experience and the way he is sharing it is like those who are already making a terrible mistake have hope in the future. We both know as we write there are people that are processing admission at various stages, have done visa application and there are some that have gotten visa and waiting to resume. Isn't it better those that have gained admission or applied for visa or even waiting to travel to the UK get a clear story that they are on the wrong path now, cut their losses and see if they can meet up with 2017 winter or spring session in Canada?

We should remember once again that the primary audience for this thread are not rich kids who simply want to study in the UK then return home but people whose intention is to kiss Nigeria and the hard life goodbye until further notice.

Lol, kiss Nigeria and the hard life goodbye. You are right, some people are not doing M.sc degree because they love education. Its a means of xcape from Buhari's Gov lol.

LagosismyHome:
If u are in a country whose policies are not favourable if u like be good for africa , it will still be hard . How can someone know you are good when you are not even given the opportunity to present yourself

Most companies will not accept your CV if you need work visa not to talk of hearing your voice or ability....

nowadays. most company in canada would shred you resume if you are not pr or a citizen, yet some still get jobs in both uk or canada even before grad.

shinarambo1:
exactly. if you are good, nothing stops you from achieveing whatsoever you desire. That same nigeria people are running from, i know people that have excellent jobs that take them all over the world. yet all they have is their bsc from oau or unilag. some are even hnd from yabatech. Like i said...if you are good. you would always make it irrespective of any country you go for your masters. only sore losers whine all day about a country deceiving them.

I agree God can bless ur hussle anywhere

bikat:
I am 100% sure that Canadian Federal Express Entry immigration programme will give someone who has a masters from Nigeria, the same score they will give to another person with a UK masters. All they require is a degree that is equivalent to Canadian degree. If you use World Education Services or other company, you will discover that a Nigerian masters is equivalent with a UK masters. I am 100% sure of this.

Simple fact!

Obiwannn:
German Masters nko

I don't know much abt G, but I think you will be allowed to stay for some years after your studies and their schools are cheaper.