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Re: Update On The Donations Refused From The Atheist Community For Charity by FearGodAndLive: 7:00pm On Aug 26, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Young man , you made a comment and I asked for your reason . Why is it difficult for you to have a rational discussion ? I asked nicely for a confabulation with you and you showed no gravitas again .

You've joined the other insufferable atheist on my ignore list. wink Have a long, productive life.
Re: Update On The Donations Refused From The Atheist Community For Charity by trapQ: 7:13pm On Aug 26, 2016
Keep convulsing over nothing. Per the bolded, Pastors who enrich themselves with "God's money" will have to answer to God someday but in the meantime, atheist money is not and will never be needed by the church. This isn't hard to comprehend. Keep your money. Y'all can make donations to orphanages and children's foundations but your accursed money isn't needed by the church. Your money will do more harm than good.
MrMontella:

did i tell u i have one?

a pastor takes money from the poor and uses it to inflate his bank accounts..bt refuses to take money that will help the life of kids ur supposed god failed to provide adequately for..
I see no point u made..

do u buy stuffs from muslims in the market?
If u're a christian and you do.....shame on u..

read and understand...dont rush..
Comprehend !

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Re: Update On The Donations Refused From The Atheist Community For Charity by Nobody: 7:24pm On Aug 26, 2016
MrMontella:

did i tell u i have one?

a pastor takes money from the poor and uses it to inflate his bank accounts..bt refuses to take money that will help the life of kids ur supposed god failed to provide adequately for..
I see no point u made..

do u buy stuffs from muslims in the market?
If u're a christian and you do.....shame on u..

read and understand...dont rush..
Comprehend !

Choices are there for a reason. If we one chooses to patronize a muslim trader while rejecting same from an Atheist its called the ability to choose.

Meanwhile are the kids suffering? Since when did an Atheist develop the ability to show care and love? Has the blame game on God ceased? Or they now want to play God?

mtcheew

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Re: Update On The Donations Refused From The Atheist Community For Charity by FearGodAndLive: 7:36pm On Aug 26, 2016
Funny thing is. Nigerian Christians would turnost European Christians atheist with their ILLogic and stupidity. It's like faith turns the African brain to sawdust. It's practically impossible to get them to see beyond labels. Atheist money? Lmao.

They'd rather take embezzled money from a Christian politician. God will judge not man. cheesy but they'll readily judge Atheist money. The irony. Hypocrisy. cheesy are these people real or trolls? I wonder daily.

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Re: Update On The Donations Refused From The Atheist Community For Charity by 0ubenji(m): 7:54pm On Aug 26, 2016
FearGodAndLive:
Funny thing is. Nigerian Christians would turnost European Christians atheist with their ILLogic and stupidity. It's like faith turns the African brain to sawdust. It's practically impossible to get them to see beyond labels. Atheist money? Lmao.

They'd rather take embezzled money from a Christian politician. God will judge not man. cheesy but they'll readily judge Atheist money. The irony. Hypocrisy. cheesy are these people real or trolls? I wonder daily.
lolz..truer than truth
Re: Update On The Donations Refused From The Atheist Community For Charity by theoneJabulani(m): 8:20pm On Aug 26, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Huh ?
Android typo, obviously.
Re: Update On The Donations Refused From The Atheist Community For Charity by theoneJabulani(m): 8:21pm On Aug 26, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Huh ?
Android typo, obviously.
Re: Update On The Donations Refused From The Atheist Community For Charity by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:22pm On Aug 26, 2016
theoneJabulani:
Android typo, obviously.

Obviously , from your view not mine . wink
Re: Update On The Donations Refused From The Atheist Community For Charity by theoneJabulani(m): 8:45pm On Aug 26, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:

Obviously , from your view not mine . wink
whatever
Re: Update On The Donations Refused From The Atheist Community For Charity by MrMontella(m): 9:09pm On Aug 26, 2016
naijadeyhia:


Choices are there for a reason. If we one chooses to patronize a muslim trader while rejecting same from an Atheist its called the ability to choose.
read what she/he said..

The church doesn't need money from anyone who is against the christian faith.
she/he generalized all contrary opinions including other religions...
But i know its a misguided thought from his/her perspective...
So i singled her/him out

do u buy stuffs from muslims in the market?
If u're a christian and you do.....shame on u..
!

Meanwhile are the kids suffering?
wahala!

Since when did an Atheist develop the ability to show care and love?
this is where you are wrong...

Has the blame game on God ceased? Or they now want to play God?
you care for your loved ones...does it mean u play god?

mtcheew
Re: Update On The Donations Refused From The Atheist Community For Charity by MrMontella(m): 9:39pm On Aug 26, 2016
trapQ:
Keep convulsing over nothing.
i passed the stage of convulsing decades ago

Per the bolded, Pastors who enrich themselves with "God's money" will have to answer to God someday
This is where the delusion kicks in

but in the meantime, atheist money is not and will never be needed by the church.
i believe oubenji tackled this

This isn't hard to comprehend. Keep your money. Y'all can make donations to orphanages and children's foundations but your accursed money isn't needed by the church. Your money will do more harm than good.
i believe if a child dies as a result of rejecting such money..the church will still say it is the plan of god and say they are doing right..
Simple truth...Religion makes people less thoughtful

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Re: Update On The Donations Refused From The Atheist Community For Charity by Anas09: 9:41pm On Aug 26, 2016
0ubenji:
God bless u for this..
atleast the bible says in IIcorinthians 6:14 to be not unequally yoked with Seun. grin...so they shud belong to a forum created by a christian...smh
yet, ppl like dem wud always scream Hosea 4:6

analice107, Anas09
So by reason of me being in his forum i and him and yoked? How old are you?

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Re: Update On The Donations Refused From The Atheist Community For Charity by Anas09: 9:43pm On Aug 26, 2016
MrMontella:

wow..did the holy spirit reveal this to you?
Instinct. You keep bringing it up when its uncalled for.
Re: Update On The Donations Refused From The Atheist Community For Charity by Anas09: 9:45pm On Aug 26, 2016
0ubenji:
i would av insulted you, but i'd choose to let it lie..

1. if u were actually reading to comprehension, u wud knw i am the OP, nd my post dictated what started this thread.. so that was a misfire from u.
2. Jesus never lacked the possession of kingdoms to have desired for what he had the power to have..and the temptation instance is parallel to this case that u tried to apply it to...jesus was never in need of territories, neither did he admit to such desire.
meanwhile, dis charity openly admitted to the public(which included donors from other religion) that they needed funds to cater for children..they never stated that they need funds for the work of God..
attending to the welfare of children has nutin to do with religion..that is simply humanism(christianity as well as other religions preaches that).....2nd misfire
3. I wonder what religious virtue lies in ur jurisdiction to deem me a christian or not?...u lack tact....3rd misfire
4. Read my Thread's topic(i mean both topics on this issue) well and its contents...to grasp the following
(a). Nowhere in the post was it stated that the Atheists donated to the work of God..the donations were for a charity home that happened to be owned by a baptist church.

(b). the church never stated anywhere in their campaign to solicit for funds, that only christian donors are allowed..sinx they knw dis is a humanitarian cause,they didnt bother to do such.

(c). the post never had in it that these children were strictly from christian parents...which means they set religious differences aside when trying to cater for their fellow humans out of goodwill(which u've, unfortunately mistaken to be solely the work of God)..if they set aside religious differences when taking these children in..what stops dem from doin so when the need arises to achieve the good cause they initiated?

(d). in the post(if u actually read it to comprehension), it's clear that the church rejected the money coz the man refused to erase his Atheists Foundation name as the donor...if he did..the church wud av accepted the moni..that is pure hypocrisy..

[size=15pt]Direct evidence(sinx deductive reasoning eluded u)[/size]: “She called my desk phone at work and told me that they would not be accepting our donation because it would go against everything they believe in,” Wilbourn said.
The employee told Wilbourn he would need to change the name on the donation in order for the home to accept the money, Wilbourn refused, and the employee said the money would be returned.

Wilbourn says an employee of the home told him they are primarily funded by the American Baptist Churches Association. He and his wife are the co-founders for the Muskogee Atheist Community.

Link: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2016/08/23/an-oklahoma-charity-rejected-an-atheists-donation-so-hes-raising-more-until-they-say-yes/......
Didnt read sorry.
Re: Update On The Donations Refused From The Atheist Community For Charity by 0ubenji(m): 11:47pm On Aug 26, 2016
Anas09:

So by reason of me being in his forum i and him and yoked? How old are you?
old enuf to order u to go check ur dico rite away for what being yoked with something or someone means...you can keep the apology to urself...it's of no use to me..
If, however(expectedly) you refuse to give perceptivity a chance in a bid to defend your stand in this scenario...
i'm ready to offer u a few websites and social forums owned by renowned satanists ....u cud go thr and have super-social fun berra than that which you've derived from nairaland so far.. #all join
Re: Update On The Donations Refused From The Atheist Community For Charity by Nobody: 12:45am On Aug 27, 2016
0ubenji:
old enuf to order u to go check ur dico rite away for what being yoked with something or someone means...you can keep the apology to urself...it's of no use to me..
If, however(expectedly) you refuse to give perceptivity a chance in a bid to defend your stand in this scenario...
i'm ready to offer u a few websites and social forums owned by renowned satanists ....u cud go thr and have super-social fun berra than that which you've derived from nairaland so far.. #all join


At this point i honestly think you should stop. Whats your fuss about even? Some rejected money by a charity? Is that the first rejected donation by any charity? Must Atheists donate to charities even? Why not run their own and have atheists donate to atheist run charities is that too difficult to do?

If anas09 chose to be on nairaland even though its owned by an atheist its her prerogative and not yours to dictate. Seun never started Nairaland by announcing that he is an Atheist. This forum as far as he is concerned is all about making money so he is willing to relegate his fellow Atheists here on Nairaland to the background to achieve that which is why he has clearly stated on a few occasions that Atheist threads do not carry traffic hence his not featuring them on the front page....Isnt that a huge irony?

Here you are trying to scold anas09 for patronizing Seuns website when Seun himself is not patronizing Atheist threads by his comrades in Atheism and he doesn't even care...why? The selfish desire for money...which is a good thing as far as he is concerned.

So we can say that these atheists whose donation was rejected were also being selfish and are also trying to prove a point and that point is that God cannot help so they are stepping up to the plate......The donation is not about the kids or their need (if they had any) its to prove the selfish desire of the Atheist which has a sadistic undertone.

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Re: Update On The Donations Refused From The Atheist Community For Charity by EyeHateGod: 1:17am On Aug 27, 2016
Can U believe what am seeing here from xtians, This people can Kill

Re: Update On The Donations Refused From The Atheist Community For Charity by felixomor: 2:20am On Aug 27, 2016
grin

Hehehehe,

There is no big deal,

In the past, Even "Christians" with questionable characters have also had their donations to charity rejected before by prominent charities.

There is no big deal!

It is called SCRUTINY.........God cannot be mocked.

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Re: Update On The Donations Refused From The Atheist Community For Charity by Anas09: 7:57am On Aug 27, 2016
naijadeyhia:



At this point i honestly think you should stop. Whats your fuss about even? Some rejected money by a charity? Is that the first rejected donation by any charity? Must Atheists donate to charities even? Why not run their own and have atheists donate to atheist run charities is that too difficult to do?

If anas09 chose to be on nairaland even though its owned by an atheist its her prerogative and not yours to dictate. Seun never started Nairaland by announcing that he is an Atheist. This forum as far as he is concerned is all about making money so he is willing to relegate his fellow Atheists here on Nairaland to the background to achieve that which is why he has clearly stated on a few occasions that Atheist threads do not carry traffic hence his not featuring them on the front page....Isnt that a huge irony?

Here you are trying to scold anas09 for patronizing Seuns website when Seun himself is not patronizing Atheist threads by his comrades in Atheism and he doesn't even care...why? The selfish desire for money...which is a good thing as far as he is concerned.

So we can say that these atheists whose donation was rejected were also being selfish and are also trying to prove a point and that point is that God cannot help so they are stepping up to the plate......The donation is not about the kids or their need (if they had any) its to prove the selfish desire of the Atheist which has a sadistic undertone.
Funny enough i had stated cateforically that its nothing to do with Seun personally. Someone asked "What if am running a Charity home and Seun comes to donate a huge amount of money", I uses Seun to represent any atheist in the world, it musn't be Seun Osawe. It could be any Athiest. I wont take his money.
The goon wants to fan the flames, like i care.

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Re: Update On The Donations Refused From The Atheist Community For Charity by Nobody: 8:16am On Aug 27, 2016
These Christians are showing their true colors. Disgusting set of people. They have warped the definition of atheism, the concept of atheism and morality to a twisted version, so as to feel good about themselves. I wonder if all other social animals (like ants, lions, etc) need some imaginary god to tell them to help their fellow animal of their species in distress. In other words, these people would rather have the little children die, than for them to survive and live good, productive lives as members of society. I'm about to quote a Christian verse:
'By their fruits, you shall know them'.
Re: Update On The Donations Refused From The Atheist Community For Charity by Nobody: 8:20am On Aug 27, 2016
I wonder of the people that gave Jesus loaves of bread and fish to feed the 5000 were followers of Christ. Was Christ not supposedly trying to lecture them, and convince them? The same way you guys are trying to convince atheists on Nairaland that you're right? Forget it, you guys have shown your true colors as the most hypocritical set of people.
Re: Update On The Donations Refused From The Atheist Community For Charity by Ranchhoddas: 8:43am On Aug 27, 2016
felixomor:
grin

Hehehehe,

There is no big deal,

In the past, Even "Christians" with questionable characters have also had their donations to charity rejected before by prominent charities.

There is no big deal!

It is called SCRUTINY.........God cannot be mocked.
Examples of these PROMINENT charities?
Re: Update On The Donations Refused From The Atheist Community For Charity by Nobody: 8:54am On Aug 27, 2016
AnonyNymous:
These Christians are showing their true colors. Disgusting set of people. They have warped the definition of atheism, the concept of atheism and morality to a twisted version, so as to feel good about themselves. I wonder if all other social animals (like ants, lions, etc) need some imaginary god to tell them to help their fellow animal of their species in distress. In other words, these people would rather have the little children die, than for them to survive and live good, productive lives as members of society. I'm about to quote a Christian verse:
'By their fruits, you shall know them'.

When demonic deceivers speak we can discern them. When living breathing liars speak we can tell. Whatever definition of Atheism you have in your head for yourself is a lying, deceiving one as we know what we know. Nobody knows what his back looks like when he is walking...only those walking behind him do!

Atheists are a bunch of deceptive liars so leave matter.

That charity has been there for a long while and have been well cared for. It was not set up with the atheists money, neither was it kept running with their money so their money matters not and makes no difference.

Jesus was given fish and bread from one of those who had been listening to His message intently and was willing to release all he had there for Christ....that to me is a believer! The little boy gave all the fish and loaves he had there unlike the Atheist who is making noise over a few thousand dollars like it is 1/100 of what has already gone into that charity.

We all know you Atheists for who you are and indeed the Bible passage you are trying to quote is apt for the Atheist..."by their fruit you shall know them"

Atheism is synonymous with deception same way the Devil told Jesus "if you bow down to me i will give you the kingdoms of the world".

We as believers say "Atheism Taaarr!!!

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Re: Update On The Donations Refused From The Atheist Community For Charity by Nobody: 8:57am On Aug 27, 2016
naijadeyhia:


When demonic deceivers speak we can discern them. When living breathing liars speak we can tell. Whatever definition of Atheism you have in your head for yourself is a lying, deceiving one as we know what we know. Nobody knows what his back looks like when he is walking...only those walking behind him do!

Atheists are a bunch of deceptive liars so leave matter.

That charity has been there for a long while and have been well cared for. It was not set up with the atheists money, neither was it kept running with their money so their money matters not and makes no difference.

Jesus was given fish and bread from one of those who had been listening to His message intently and was willing to release all he had there for Christ....that to me is a believer! The little boy gave all the fish and loaves he had there unlike the Atheist who is making noise over a few thousand dollars like it is 1/100 of what has already gone into that charity.

We all know you Atheists for who you are and indeed the Bible passage you are trying to quote is apt for the Atheist..."by their fruit you shall know them"

Atheism is synonymous with deception same way the Devil told Jesus "if you bow down to me i will give you the kingdoms of the world".

We as believers say "Atheism Taaarr!!!
Bahahaha. I'm not even an atheist. But as I said, you Christians lack the basic understanding of what atheism is. Lol. You think anybody cares what you believe? A genuine effort to help little children, rejected because they were not of the same belief system. I even saw reports that they did it so they could qualify for millions of dollars from the government. Its sad, honestly
Re: Update On The Donations Refused From The Atheist Community For Charity by Nobody: 9:10am On Aug 27, 2016
AnonyNymous:

Bahahaha. I'm not even an atheist. But as I said, you Christians lack the basic understanding of what atheism is. Lol. You think anybody cares what you believe? A genuine effort to help little children, rejected because they were not of the same belief system. I even saw reports that they did it so they could qualify for millions of dollars from the government. Its sad, honestly


Do i look like i care what you think? If you say they did it in order to qualify for millions of dollars from government is that not wisdom? So they should accept the measly 27k dollars and loose out on millions from the government which would cater more to the charity.

I can even say that the Atheists are also aware of this millions which the government want to give so they plan to scuttle it by forcing the charity to accept their donation...Bunch of deceivers! Thank you for pointing out the motive behind all this noise over a rejected donation.

These are the same people who lobbied to ensure Religion and prayer was removed from the school system, same people who go about on the streets attacking preachers and those demonstrating against the ills being perpetrated on the weak and the less fortunate and here you are thinking they would care about one small charity? Motive is all its about and that motive from the Atheist as far as its targeted at something tied to God is always wicked! Take it whatever way you wish.

We say Atheism Taaarr!

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Re: Update On The Donations Refused From The Atheist Community For Charity by Nobody: 9:15am On Aug 27, 2016
naijadeyhia:



Do i look like i care what you think? If you say they did it in order to qualify for millions of dollars from government is that not wisdom? So they should accept the measly 27k dollars and loose out on millions from the government which would cater more to the charity.

I can even say that the Atheists are also aware of this millions which the government want to give so they plan to scuttle it by forcing the charity to accept their donation...Bunch of deceivers! Thank you for pointing out the motive behind all this noise over a rejected donation.

These are the same people who lobbied to ensure Religion and prayer was removed from the school system, same people who go about on the streets attacking preachers and those demonstrating against the ills being perpetrated on the weak and the less fortunate and here you are thinking they would care about one small charity? Motive is all its about and that motive from the Atheist as far as its targeted at something tied to God is always wicked! Take it whatever way you wish.

We say Atheism Taaarr!
I'll leave you to believe what you wish. Because of millions from government that was unsure of arriving, a mere rumour, they rejected an instant relief funded by ordinary people. If you wish to know, its not one single atheist, its just because an atheist set up the gofundme page. I'm sure lots of people from different religions would have donated whatever little they had.
Re: Update On The Donations Refused From The Atheist Community For Charity by Nobody: 9:20am On Aug 27, 2016
AnonyNymous:

I'll leave you to believe what you wish. Because of millions from government that was unsure of arriving, a mere rumour, they rejected an instant relief funded by ordinary people. If you wish to know, its not one single atheist, its just because an atheist set up the gofundme page. I'm sure lots of people from different religions would have donated whatever little they had.

Stop fussing over what does not concern you and what has been decided already and i stand solidly behind that support.

We say Atheism Taaarr!

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Re: Update On The Donations Refused From The Atheist Community For Charity by 0ubenji(m): 9:21am On Aug 27, 2016
naijadeyhia:

Whats your fuss about even?
this is a 2-way question, imagine me asking u that as well....#null

naijadeyhia:
Here you are trying to scold anas09 for patronizing Seuns website when Seun himself is not patronizing Atheist threads by his comrades in Atheism and he doesn't even care....
i knew you'd come at me..relished the moment b4 u handed it to me on a platter.
naijadeyhia:
At this point i honestly think you should stop
stop doin what pls?..hmmn..and honesty is not a cheap virtue when religion is rife with bigotry...i'd advice u affix another subject pronoun to the adverb "honestly"
naijadeyhia:
Some rejected money by a charity? Is that the first rejected donation by any charity?
i hate being involved with debaters who got a confused perspective..i followed ur debate with MrMontella..and u reiterated(tho in contextual error) that the church(not some as u claim now) refused a donation to themselves(not the charity as u also claim now) from Atheists...[i]#confusion[/i]
ur pensive mood obviously took the best part of an intellectual u..please read to comprehension Sir
naijadeyhia:
Must Atheists donate to charities even? Why not run their own and have atheists donate to atheist run charities is that too difficult to do?
Must the baptist church fund a charity and disturb the public(which includes atheists) for funds?
if they cudnt solely fund a charity..why start one in the first place.
you cant gimme a blank cheque and chastise me for whateva amount i choose to request for..they gave out the chance to be humiliated by Atheists(according to u) sinx dey cudnt kip their house in order.
Daystar Christian centre(the church i attend)..championed humanitarian causes over the years..i'll list a few
1. they rebuilt schools and stocked them with educational materials.
NOTE: some of these schools are owned by the least religious ppl, sometimes pagans
2. they give out clothing, food items etc., bi-ennially to the needy(i dont necessarily mean haggard looking peeps, dudes and babes approach the welfare stands, no big deal), just approach the welfare staff in the church premises and state ur needs and u get it, provided it's available
NOTE: Atheists, Muslims(in their religious attire) approach the welfare staff and are treated the way; we, christians claim God wud love us to treat even our own enemies(sinx u seem to view non-christians as such).

Synagogue church of all Nations(Prophet T. B Joshua's)...gives food items, clothing and money to the needy occasionally.
NOTE: Most of them are not members of his church, they found themselves in the church coz of what they need, some are even pagans and the church knows this.

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I cited both scenarios above, to tell u that only a Religious Fanatic and Hypocrite Minces Religion with Humanism...
every religion preaches humanism as a highly prioritized moral standard. A good christian should know that objective humanism is a strong virtue, worthy of emulation, that cud even make an Atheist or any other religionist convert to be a christian.
bigotry, rooted in religious zealotry wud never convince an Atheist that our God is true, if our beliefs and actions are not in concomitance.
naijadeyhia:
If anas09 chose to be on nairaland even though its owned by an atheist its her prerogative and not yours to dictate
if I and some objectively reasoning others choose to condemn open religious hypocrisy, it's my prerogative and not urs to dictate as well..*chews kola*..lolz..another 2-way statement.
or are u d same Anas09 with an alternate moniker?...i wonder
naijadeyhia:
Seun never started Nairaland by announcing that he is an Atheist
parallel analogy.
he doesnt need to announce coz his profile dint give room for filling out religious views...if he created a column for religious views, u fink he wont fill-out Atheist there?...once again... plz read to comprehension
naijadeyhia:
This forum as far as he is concerned is all about making money
this is an educated assumption, but u never cud tel his real motive behind Nairaland u knw?. if his plan was sinister, he wont announce it.
sinx u dont trust Atheists money, why shud u trust an atheist's forum u bliv was propagated from Avarice?
avarice is not something a good christian of ur standard shud help promote by increasin his user-base(imagine u fuelling someones love of moni), why dont u deactivate ur acct here and go signup on christian forums only?..atleast the owners dont av selfish desire for money(as u prejudicially put it)....#hypocrisy
naijadeyhia:
so he is willing to relegate his fellow Atheists here on Nairaland to the background to achieve that which is why he has clearly stated on a few occasions that Atheist threads do not carry traffic hence his not featuring them on the front page....Isnt that a huge irony?
the irony here is in the fact that all dese facts exist in ur head alone..this is not a religious forum..why wud he brandish his views in d face of NLanders?.
answer: when u got an objective in mind, u dont let sentiments get in ur way or it spells u as being unfocused...#definitionOfabusinessman.

he however asserts his religious views whenever necessary..if u visit this forum as often as i imagine..u wud notice his comments here.
naijadeyhia:
why? The selfish desire for money...which is a good thing as far as he is concerned
prejudice
naijadeyhia:
So we can say that these atheists whose donation was rejected were also being selfish and are also trying to prove a point and that point is that God cannot help so they are stepping up to the plate......The donation is not about the kids or their need (if they had any) its to prove the selfish desire of the Atheist which has a sadistic undertone
..prejudice #2 u dont trust Atheist's moni but u trust his forum because u assume he wants to make moni...lolz...u made my day bro
Re: Update On The Donations Refused From The Atheist Community For Charity by Nobody: 9:35am On Aug 27, 2016
[quote author=0ubenji post=48840211]this is a 2-way question, imagine me asking u that as well....#null

. .

Here you are trying to scold anas09 for patronizing Seuns website when Seun himself is not patronizing Atheist threads by his comrades in Atheism and he doesn't even care....

.
i knew you'd come at me..relished the moment b4 u handed it to me on a platter.
At this point i honestly think you should stop[/b]stop doin what pls?..hmmn..and honesty is not a cheap virtue when religion is rife with bigotry...i'd advice u affix another subject pronoun to the adverb "honestly"
[b]Some
rejected money by a charity? Is that the first rejected donation by any charity?[/b]i hate being involved with debaters who got a confused perspective..i followed ur debate with MrMontella..and u reiterated(tho in contextual error) that [b]the church(not some as u claim now) refused a donation to themselves(not the charity as u also claim now) from Atheists...[i]#confusion[/i]
ur pensive mood obviously took the best part of an intellectual u..please read to comprehension Sir
Must Atheists donate to charities even? Why not run their own and have atheists donate to atheist run charities is that too difficult to do?Must the baptist church fund a charity and disturb the public(which includes atheists) for funds?
if they cudnt solely fund a charity..why start one in the first place.
you cant gimme a blank cheque and chastise me for whateva amount i choose to request for..they gave out the chance to be humiliated by Atheists(according to u) sinx dey cudnt kip their house in order.
Daystar Christian centre(the church i attend)..championed humanitarian causes over the years..i'll list a few
1. they rebuilt schools and stocked them with educational materials.
NOTE: some of these schools are owned by the least religious ppl, sometimes pagans
2. they give out clothing, food items etc., bi-ennially to the needy(i dont necessarily mean haggard looking peeps, dudes and babes approach the welfare stands, no big deal), just approach the welfare staff in the church premises and state ur needs and u get it, provided it's available
NOTE: Atheists, Muslims(in their religious attire) approach the welfare staff and are treated the way; we, christians claim God wud love us to treat even our own enemies(sinx u seem to view non-christians as such).

Synagogue church of all Nations(Prophet T. B Joshua's)...gives food items, clothing and money to the needy occasionally.
NOTE: Most of them are not members of his church, they found themselves in the church coz of what they need, some are even pagans and the church knows this.

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I cited both scenarios above, to tell u that only a Religious Fanatic and Hypocrite Minces Religion with Humanism...
every religion preaches humanism as a highly prioritized moral standard. A good christian should know that objective humanism is a strong virtue, worthy of emulation, that cud even make an Atheist or any other religionist covert to be a christian.
bigotry, rooted in religious zealotry wud never convince an Atheist that our God is true, if our beliefs and actions are not in concomitance.
If anas09 chose to be on nairaland even though its owned by an atheist its her prerogative and not yours to dictateif I and some objectively reasoning others choose to condemn open religious hypocrisy, it's my prerogative and not urs to dictate as well..*chews kola*..lolz..another 2-way statement.
or are u d same Anas09 with an alternate moniker?...i wonder


I do not think you understand yourself when you respond to anything and you just wish to respond so as to keep your thread rolling. The examples you cited above are are they from the Church to the world or the world to the church? Listen young man if you feel the motives behind Daystars charitable works are not right then feel free to challenge it as well but we all know the root of Atheism and what they represent and if this church made a plea for donations do they still have no right to reject the ones they are not comfortable with? If they could go all out to start a charity is it 27k that will sink them?

Let me even ask you, if your Pastor in daystar knows that a donation is coming from a criminal or a thief would he accept it? Note the keyword there is KNOW!

Seun never started Nairaland by announcing that he is an Atheistparallel analogy.
he doesnt need to announce coz his profile dint give room for filling out religious views...if he created a column for religious views, u fink he wont fill-out Atheist there?...once again... plz read to comprehension
This forum as far as he is concerned is all about making moneythis is an educated assumption, but u never cud tel his real motive behind Nairaland u knw?. if his plan was sinister, he wont announce it.
sinx u dont trust Atheists money, why shud u trust an atheist's forum u bliv was propagated from Avarice?
avarice is not something a good christian of ur standard shud help promote by increasin his user-base(imagine u fuelling someones love of moni), why dont u deactivate ur acct here and go signup on christian forums only?..atleast the owners dont av selfish desire for money(as u prejudicially put it)....#hypocrisy
so he is willing to relegate his fellow Atheists here on Nairaland to the background to achieve that which is why he has clearly stated on a few occasions that Atheist threads do not carry traffic hence his not featuring them on the front page....Isnt that a huge irony?the irony here is in the fact that all dese facts exist in ur head alone..this is not a religious forum..why wud he brandish his views in d face of NLanders?.
answer: when u got an objective in mind, u dont let sentiments get in ur way or it spells u as being unfocused...#definitionOfabusinessman.

he however asserts his religious views whenever necessary..if u visit this forum as often as i imagine..u wud notice his comments here.
why? The selfish desire for money...which is a good thing as far as he is concernedprejudice
So we can say that these atheists whose donation was rejected were also being selfish and are also trying to prove a point and that point is that God cannot help so they are stepping up to the plate......The donation is not about the kids or their need (if they had any) its to prove the selfish desire of the Atheist which has a sadistic undertone..prejudice #2 u dont trust Atheist's moni but u trust his forum because u assume he wants to make moni...lolz...u made my day bro



I think when you get to Church tomorrow at your Sunday school class kindly ask this question which you opened a thread for and listen carefully to the response your very own pastor would give you. You are being emotional and so have thrown away all sense of reasoning in accordance to the scripture.

After they have given you an answer pls come back and narrate it to us truthfully.

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Re: Update On The Donations Refused From The Atheist Community For Charity by 0ubenji(m): 9:50am On Aug 27, 2016
naijadeyhia:
Let me even ask you, if your Pastor in daystar knows that a donation is coming from a criminal or a thief would he accept it? Note the keyword there is KNOW!
oh..ur own pastor educates u to label non-christians as thieves and criminals?...wow..i need to know the name of this church of urs pls..am sure u subscribe to accepting moni from corrupt naija politicians coz they av the tag "christian" to themselves..smh

naijadeyhia:
The examples you cited above are are they from the Church to the world or the world to the church?
now..am sure u dont read to comprehension at all...
if the peeps of other religion put their sentiments aside to accept humanitarian aid from christians..while the christians reject the same humanitarian aid(which they publicly requested for) from the non-christians...
who is the hypocrite and bigot here?



if the world behaves likes dis..nobody wud help anybody sinx we wud all reject help from our fellow humans(for humanitarian causes) coz of religion....are u not inadvertently subscribing to the Atheists views that religion is doin more harm to mankind than good?


u mentioned charity...young man..open ur dictionary for the meaning of charity weda it was hinged on religion or humanitarian act
Re: Update On The Donations Refused From The Atheist Community For Charity by Nobody: 10:05am On Aug 27, 2016
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oh..ur own pastor educates u to label non-christians as thieves and criminals?...wow..i need to know the name of this church of urs pls..am sure u subscribe to accepting moni from corrupt naija politicians coz they av the tag "christian" to themselves..smh


Young man do not quote me again if you lack simple comprehension. If Sam Adeyemi KNOWS his donations are coming from questionable sources would he accept them? Does refusing them mean he called them thieves or criminals? So if you were a Pastor to a congregation and perhaps via the spirit of God you discern that a donation is questionable or you even discover it yourself....e.g YOU WERE STROLLING DOWN THE STREET AND YOU SAW ONE OF YOUR CHORISTERS PROSITUTING OR EVEN ONE OF YOUR NORMAL MEMBERS and the next day they come to church and want to pay tithe or give offering what would you do?
a) Collect the money and correct them
b) Reject the money and correct them

now..am sure u dont read to comprehension at all...
if the peeps of other religion put their sentiments aside to accept humanitarian aid from christians..while the christians reject the same humanitarian aid(which they publicly requested for) from the non-christians...
who is the hypocrite and bigot here?



if the world behaves likes dis..nobody wud help anybody sinx we wud all reject help from our fellow humans(for humanitarian causes) coz of religion....


They have to accept our gesture as a church because they already know what we represent and they also know we operate via certain principles. If we do not help or give or love or care then they would bash us because that is who we are so when we do they are encouraged by our works.

Now how we got the funds to love and care is none of their businesses really until they find out we got it via questionable characters and means then we get bashed again and our works become useless.

The ones who should bother about how we get funds and whom it comes from are the church as we are first and foremost accountable to God. So when we already know that the source is questionable will we accept it and displease God and please the people? Are we to obey man or obey God?

I keep repeating that the key word here is Motive! If the motive is wrong which i am sure it is then we reject it.

Let me ask you directly, ARE WE TO OBEY MEN OR OBEY GOD?

You need to have a frank discussion with Sam Adeyemi because you are obviously not well grounded in the things of God to understand when a supposed gesture is mockery.

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Re: Update On The Donations Refused From The Atheist Community For Charity by Nobody: 10:16am On Aug 27, 2016
The attached image is the attitude of the atheist in a world where they pretend to deal fairly with everyone but when nobody is looking or when they see an opportunity they strike in a deadly and notable way.

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