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| Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by Leopantro: 9:05am On Sep 01, 2016 |
Nature129:here's why it would fail In this basic example, you would need one new member per five existing members to keep the scheme afloat just to meet a 20% return – let alone the 100% return. For example, once there are 10 000 members, for each member to receive their 20%, a further 2 000 members would have to be recruited the next month. As they join, so the speed of recruitment has to increase. Now you have 12 000 existing members and need 2 400 new members the next month, 2 880 the following month and then 3 456 new members, and so on. "Based on the information provided on the website, MMM follows a classic pyramid structure," she said. "The participants derive their income or returns primarily for the recruitment of new members. In other words, the returns are not based on investments or the selling of any product, but on money paid by new people joining. The philosophy is that you offer assistance by paying a joining fee." Mavrodi has executed his exit strategy - claim BehindMLM said Mavrodi “executed his exit strategy a few weeks ago. On March 20th Mavrodi informed investors there would be no more news updates published to the MMM Global website”. “Mavrodi has not been heard from or seen since, and is presumed to be on the run. It’s highly likely he withdrew and/or transferred out as much of the money he stole from investors before fleeing.” |
| Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by Qtsnow(m): 9:06am On Sep 01, 2016 |
Joel3:Just yesterday i read about the russian originator of this scheme since the 90's and believe you me, the story has always been sour for all its investors, it will look rosy at first but becomes a story that touches the heart on the long run. I guess you have heard of the case of MMM investors in South Africa and Zimbabwe. |
| Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by Nobody: 9:06am On Sep 01, 2016 |
southernbelle:my dear, I will rather look for money and start a business myself than to give it to anyone, I read about yellow kid Weil one of the most notorious scammer in America and learnt alot, these things are as old as time |
| Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by Nobody: 9:07am On Sep 01, 2016 |
Chyvy:the life you are living now is all about risk sis....you can either be alive or dead..tell us an example of a biz one can do to make more 30% return in a month and not just blowing grammar...not insult intended |
| Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by Qtsnow(m): 9:09am On Sep 01, 2016 |
Less than three months after the company collapsed in South Africa, MMM Global, a Russian Ponzi Scheme company has opened shop in Nigeria with the domain name- MMM was established in 1989 by Sergei Mavrodi, his brother Vyacheslav Mavrodi, and Olga Melnikova. The name of the company was taken from the first letters of the three founders’ surnames. Initially, the company imported computers and office equipment. In January 1992, tax police accused MMM of tax evasion, leading to the collapse of MMM-bank, and causing the company to have difficulty obtaining financing to support its operations. Faced with difficulties in funding its foreign trade, the company switched to the financial sector. It offered American stocks to Russian investors, but met with little success. Later, MMM-Invest was created for the purpose of collecting vouchers during privatisation. This effort was similarly unsuccessful. MMM created its successful Ponzi scheme in 1994. The company started attracting money from private investors, promising annual returns of up to one thousand percent. It is unclear whether a Ponzi scheme was Mavrodi’s initial intention, inasmuch as such extravagant returns might have been possible during the Russian hyperinflation in such commerce as import-export. MMM grew rapidly. In February 1994, the company reported dividends of 1,000%, and started an aggressive TV ad campaign. Since the shares were not quoted on any stock exchange and the company itself determined the share price, it maintained a steady price growth of thousands of percent annually, leading the public to believe its shares were a safe and profitable investment. An important factor in the scheme’s success was word of mouth, but most of the company’s success came from its extremely aggressive ad campaign, which appealed to the general public by using “ordinary” characters that viewers could identify with. The most famous of them, a “folk hero” of early 1994, was Lyonya Golubkov. Another notable marketing effort was a giveaway of free Metro trips to all Moscow citizens on a particular day. MMM also was one of the first well-known companies in Russia with a logotype and slogans (“Flying from shadow to the light” and others). At its peak the company was taking in more than 100 billion rubles (about 50 million USD) each day from the sale of its shares to the public. Thus, the cashflow turnover at the MMM central office in Moscow was so high that it could not be estimated. The management started to count money in roomfuls (1 roomful of money, 2 roomfuls of money, etc.). Regular publication in the media of the rising MMM share price led President Boris Yeltsin to issue a decree in June 1994 prohibiting financial institutions from publicising their expected income. The success of MMM in attracting investors led to the creation of other similar companies, including Tibet, Chara, Khoper-Invest, Selenga, Telemarket, and Germes. All of these companies were characterised by aggressive television advertising and extremely high promised rates of return. One company promised annual returns of 30,000%. On July 22, 1994, the police closed the offices of MMM for tax evasion. For a few days the company attempted to continue the scheme, but soon ceased operations. At that point, Invest-Consulting, one of the company’s subsidiaries, owed more than 50 billion rubles in taxes (USD 26 million), and MMM itself owed between 100 billion and 3 trillion rubles to the investors (from USD 50 million to USD 1.5 billion). In the aftermath at least 50 investors, having lost all of their money, committed suicide. Several organisations of “deceived investors” made efforts to recover their lost investments, but Sergei Mavrodi manipulated their indignation and directed it at the government. In August 1994 Mavrodi was arrested for tax evasion. However, he was soon elected to the Russian State Duma, with the support of the “deceived investors”. He argued that the government, not MMM, was responsible for people losing their money, and promised to initiate a pay-back program. The amount ultimately paid back was minuscule compared to the amount owed. In October 1995, the Duma cancelled Mavrodi’s right to immunity as a deputy. In 1996, he tried to run for Russia’s presidency, but most of the signatures he received were rejected. MMM declared bankruptcy on September 22, 1997. While it was believed that Sergei Mavrodi left Russia and moved to the United States, it is possible that he stayed in Moscow, using his money to change apartments regularly and employ a group of former special agents. With the help of a distant relative he started Stock Generation Ltd., another pyramid scheme based around trading non-existent companies’ stocks in a form of the “stock exchange game” on the company’s site, stockgeneration.com. Despite a bold-letter warning on the main page that the site was not a real stock exchange, between 20,000 and 275,000 people, according to various estimates, fell for the promised 200% returns and lost their money. According to U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, losses of victims were at least USD 5.5 million. Mavrodi was found and arrested in 2003. While in custody, Mavrodi was given until January 31, 2006 to read the documents in his fraud case against him (The criminal case consisted of 650 volumes, each 250-270 pages long). At the end of April 2007, Mavrodi was convicted of fraud, and given a sentence of four and a half years. Since he had already spent over four years in custody, he was released less than a month later, on May 22, 2007. He later went on to creating yet another pyramid scheme called MMM-2011. The MMM scandal led to increased regulation of the Russian stock market, but the legacy of the fraud led many to become extremely suspicious of any joint stock companies. In 2015 MMM began operating in South Africa with the same business model as MMM-2011, claiming a “30% per month” return through a “social financial network”. The group was identified as a possible pyramid scheme by the National Consumer Commission and accounts of clients were later frozen by Capitec Bank. In response to mounting criticism and official investigations by state authorities in 2016 supporters of the South African MMM scheme staged a protest march in Johannesburg. In 2016, MMM launched a website targeting the Nigerian audience. Many Nigerians who are not conversant with the fact that the company is a fraudulent establishment that defrauded more than 40 million people of at least USD10 billion before being shutdown and declaring bankruptcy in Russia. mmm As reported by Fin24, MMM Global in its usual manner operated a platform where its members are encouraged to donate money to others by rewarding them with the bitcoin-linked virtual currency – Mavros – in return, and can apparently get 30% return on their rand investment by doing so. However, it is a known knowledge that a scheme is a Ponzi scheme when expected return is 20% higher than the repo rate. To the amazement of any reasonable person, many South Africans still fall prey despite the fact that the repo rate in SA is 7%. MMM Global only gave South Africans the bad news with a post on its website saying “We regret to inform you that we have to close down the Republic of Bitcoin. It was an experiment, and, unfortunately, it failed. We turned out not to be able to pay 100% per month.” How can a company that has been defrauding people since 1989 claim its scheme is an experiment in 2016? I met a former colleague who has fallen prey to the fraud. He was reveling in the phantom promise that his NGN100,000 will yield him additional 30% in return. I immediately alerted him that he has fallen for a Ponzi Scheme and that everything will soon blow up in his face. To further delude their victims, MMM Global has been using propaganda and lies. My colleague narrated the origin of the company to me. Even a smart person will get carried away. The height of the idiocy was when he told me that MMM was closed down in Russia because the company became richer than the Russian government and all the banks put together. A day before it collapsed in South Africa, BehindMLM, a website that reports news on Ponzi Schemes and Multi-level Marketing, MLM warned the public saying: “The financial apocalypse is upon us, MMM Global has collapsed,” “MMM Global’s Ponzi clones offering a lower percentage haven’t ‘proved’ themselves any more than MMM Global did,” “MMM Global cannot sustain paying out more than is invested. And as long as affiliate investment is the only source of revenue entering the scheme, any MMM Global scheme will ultimately collapse. “They’ll continue to pay ROIs (return on investments) until withdrawals exceed the rate of new investment, and then run out of money all the same. One only needs to look at the collapse of MMM China for evidence of what’s to come”. “Unfortunately for most MMM Global investors, the collapse is the end of the line. Those unlucky enough to live in countries where MMM Global runs secondary scams (like South Africa), were informed their accounts would be transferred over.” However, I am not surprised that Nigerians will fall prey to MMM Global. Ponzi Schemes are recurring decimals in the social history of Nigeria. From fraudulent investment clubs, to wealth solutions and other MLMs across the country. In the midst of the banking boom, many Nigerian lost billions of Naira (NGN) to Ponzi Schemes who promised millions of the population superfluous interest rates close to 150% within 30 days. A writer once accused many Nigerians of ‘momentary amnesia’, but in the midst of an economic crises, record inflation and ‘technical recession’, the lack of access to information by victims of such schemes seals their fate. |
| Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by Qtsnow(m): 9:10am On Sep 01, 2016 |
Investors have been warned by the Chinese Government about MMM Global and MMM China. The Chinese government believe that those schemes — and sites like them — are illegal. This news comes to us from Chinese media site Caixin [via Coinfox]. MMM Global is run by convicted Russian fraudster Sergey Mavrodi who served over four years in Russian prison for a pyramid scheme he ran in the 1990s. Mavrodi recently claimed that his more recent scheme was responsible for the price increase back in December 2015 and early January 2016. He provided no evidence to back up that claim (and neither did the writers who gave him more press by parroting his claims). It seems unlikely that is true, with bitcoin’s marketcap currently sitting at over $6 billion, it would take a lot of investment to move the price as significantly as it did. Since at least December 25th, withdraws from MMM Global have halted. As of today, users still cannot access their funds. Nevertheless, MMM Global was successful for a while, as far as pyramid schemes go. The global version of the site, is currently listed as the #27,875 ranked website in the world, according to alexa.com. MMM Global claims to be a mutual beneficiary network and ultimately, has very little to do with cryptocurrencies themselves. The connection only exists because MMM Global accepts bitcoin as a payment option and Mavrodi’s price claim. Nevertheless, Bitcoin does make these type of scams more effective because Bitcoin transactions are irreversible. As such, the Bitcoin community and especially Bitcoin media, should feel a responsibility to expose these types of scams as much and as quickly as possible. A Mutual Beneficiary Network (MBN) is a new name for an old scam. Essentially a classic Ponzi scheme, MBNs attempt to piggyback off of the viral giving movements that grew in popularity a few years ago. Activities like paying the bill for the person behind you in line at Starbucks gained some press attention and it made anonymous giving sound like a real trend. MMM claims that they are just connecting people. The idea is that you give to the network and then other people in the network will eventually give it back to you, and more. Unfortunately, with the promised returns of 20 – 100% a month, an exponential amount of new investors would have to join every month, in order for the scheme to continue. Paying out current investors with new investor money is the textbook definition of a Ponzi scheme. The Bank of China’s warning likely comes too little, too late for investors, with the scheme rapidly falling apart. That said, it does seem that Mavrodi is quickly running out of countries to operate MMM Global in. He has recently begun targeting South Africa. MMM Global appears larger than any other Ponzi schemes that have been linked to cryptocurrencies, but cryptocurrencies are no stranger to their own brand of Ponzi schemes. Paycoin / GAW Miners, as well as Banx Capital, show that alleged Ponzi schemes are common in new technologies like Cryptocurrencies. |
| Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by Nobody: 9:10am On Sep 01, 2016 |
I have nothing to say because every one with sense has said enough. I will leave you obsessed mavronites alone but i will be back when it crashes to mock.... even if it takes 2 years |
| Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by Lexusgs430: 9:11am On Sep 01, 2016 |
A ponzi scheme would always have winners and losers. One thing for certain is, the scheme would eventually collapse............ |
| Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by jakiedudu(m): 9:16am On Sep 01, 2016 |
priceaction:You made a good point. |
| Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by mployer(m): 9:16am On Sep 01, 2016 |
Acidosis:I cant beleive You wrote This. Did someone hack into your account. |
| Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by mployer(m): 9:16am On Sep 01, 2016 |
Acidosis:I cant beleive You wrote This. Did someone hack into your account? |
| Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by natakin(f): 9:17am On Sep 01, 2016 |
Qtsnow:One of the ironies of the information age is how it’s turning out to obscure rather than improve our understanding of what’s really going on. The pressure to report quickly errs towards unverified reporting, or reporting based on facts distributed via unchecked sources or biased lobby groups intent on propagating causes, which in turn leads to an abundance of misinformation which confuses everyone. |
| Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by southernbelle(f): 9:17am On Sep 01, 2016 |
cekhoe:of course, starting a business with the money you want to put in a ponzi scheme will always be wiser but trust most of us,Nigerians, we will always want the easiest way to achieving anything. |
| Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by jakiedudu(m): 9:17am On Sep 01, 2016 |
neocortex:True you have a point. |
| Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by Nobody: 9:19am On Sep 01, 2016 |
southernbelle:that is why people who are ready to gain more while parting with little or nothing are victim of scammers |
| Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by samigben(m): 9:20am On Sep 01, 2016 |
mckoolcharming:THOSE WHO HAVE EAR SHOULD HEAR WHAT SEC HAS JUST SAID. |
| Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by popemech(m): 9:21am On Sep 01, 2016 |
MMM taken to bank... MMM is real
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| Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by Ryabcool(m): 9:22am On Sep 01, 2016 |
Joel3:What if no one is willing to help with the 70k? |
| Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by ochuski(m): 9:22am On Sep 01, 2016 |
How many MMM did Seun do b4 he built NAIRALAND? Mark Zuckerberg do b4 he built FACEBOOK? Bill Gates do b4 he owned MICROSOFT? Quote me and add more name Hit like if u believe in yourself |
| Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by tuniski: 9:23am On Sep 01, 2016 |
grossintel:Wrong they won't cos all deposits are insured! The worst that will happen will be delay before CBN steps in worst case scenario NDIC steps in in-case of collapse!!!! Hope u get the difference! Ponzi is a cheap scam that thrive during economic difficulties! |
| Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by Godtaye: 9:23am On Sep 01, 2016 |
There even a better one 50% in 15days |
| Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by ephi123(f): 9:24am On Sep 01, 2016 |
lordy: |
| Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by Arisheloaded(m): 9:27am On Sep 01, 2016 |
Dear MMM participants, as I am poised to always bring you news, updates and encourage you about MMM and the opportunities it brings to Nigerians and people all over the world 'globally'. This also comes with the challenges that some financial institutions, government officials who still want many to be under financial slavery, will keep using the media to preach against MMM. It's our responsibility as individuals, people to know you and I are MMM and we must sustain the community. Many will raise false alarm about MMM, don't be shaken, it's becos they don't want u to live above your previous level (no one participate in MMM after a month and remain the same, that's the truth. You all can bear me witness) The financial institutions in South Africa has challenged MMM with false media post But never won. MMM SA is still running and stronger. Www.news24.com/mynews24/mmm-south-africa-20160413 LET'S RELATE THIS TO OUR NIGERIA COMMUNITY Don't be surprised if the Nigeria financial institutions, or sponsored bloggers or media gurus are paid to preach against MMM Nigeria to cause panic among its members. Your duty is to know who u are in MMM, take full advantage in MMM community, be focused and liberate your friends, families and yourself from financial slavery and zealously pursue and participate effectively in MMM without fear. Since these Anti-MMM cannot stop us from transferring money from and to bank accounts, you and I have no issue. *Don't indicate MMM when transferring or making deposit over the counter to accounts. I say to myself that, I will cling to MMM till the end of the world because MMM has helped me. If you are new in MMM, don't worry in 30days you will smile. =====let me quickly tell you this what these Anti-MMM will tell you. "MMM is a Ponzi Schemes, you will lose your money." . ======= Now MMM IS NOT a Ponzi Scheme, in Ponzi scheme old members don't put back their money. IN MMM BOTH OLD AND NEW MEMBERS CONTINUOUSLY PUT IN MONEY. NO FEAR, OUR SUCCESS IS SURE. because you and I no longer go begging for financial help, some individuals somewhere somehow are angry. Don't let anyone forced you and your friends to rely on anyone for your financial success. RELY ON GOD, AND WITH MMM YOU AND I CAN'T BEG FOR MONEY . I am MMM Ambassador I remain and I STAND STRONG. You can register through: http:///?i=larishekola@gmail.com Or chat up with MMM guider through 07033255396 |
| Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by Efewestern: 9:28am On Sep 01, 2016 |
PaulIdu:Bro don't waste your time arguing with them.. I got some of my frnds doing it... Nigerians re very gullible.. |
| Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by noble71(m): 9:28am On Sep 01, 2016 |
JeffreyJamez:You reason well. nice write up! |
| Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by globalresource: 9:31am On Sep 01, 2016 |
Leopantro:Who told you it is 100% |
| Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by Nobody: 9:33am On Sep 01, 2016 |
Naija Government want there cut. Period!!!!! |
| Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by natakin(f): 9:33am On Sep 01, 2016 |
Qtsnow:One of the ironies of the information age is how it’s turning out to obscure rather than improve our understanding of what’s really going on. The pressure to report quickly errs towards unverified reporting, or reporting based on facts distributed via unchecked sources or biased lobby groups intent on propagating causes, which in turn leads to an abundance of misinformation which confuses everyone. |
| Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by dayleke: 9:35am On Sep 01, 2016 |
Do all the defenders of this MMM go to the same seminar/workshop or what's with this their monotone of responses? 1. They all blaming the govt. on not delivering....... 2. The SEC is their enemy........ 3. MMM is not a scam....... They all sound alike,like one is watching a movie and everyone in that ghost town has the same expression on their faces and they can only answer your question(s) with the same answer over and over again. |
| Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by pippimp(m): 9:36am On Sep 01, 2016 |
mckoolcharming:I have a problem with the bold statement. The moment you started advertising to the public, you have/had to register with the SEC. How do you regulate situations like that if whoever is doing it is not regulated? In normal societies, you would be in jail for doing exactly what you are doing. This is the after effect of poverty and a depraved way of thinking in Nigeria. Just because the economy is bad does not give everyone the right to do whatever they like to make ends meet. It does not work like that. The ends do not justify the means. That is the same argument an armed robber uses when caught. |
| Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by Nobody: 9:37am On Sep 01, 2016 |
Instead of some of u just debating here whether MMM is real or SCAM why not join us and see if it will collapse or not or u can still sit at home and remain in financial slavery while others succed...MMM is real and am a proud participant. |
| Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by Nobody: 9:40am On Sep 01, 2016*. Modified: 10:00am On Sep 01, 2016 |
pippimp:From what I see, MMM doesn't need registration with CAC, SEC or any govt body since it is strictly online and operates no physical offices in Nigeria, unless there is a law regulating the cyber spaces against online communities such as MMM. |
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oga what happens when people decide to withdraw their money from banks in numbers? Even first bank will fold if that happens.
..... Na so you go dey put dey increase your money to receive even higher amount until e shele!!