Flashh:

Anambra people commonly differentiate themselves from other Igbos, which I know.

I once asked an Anambra lady if she is from Imo; to my surprise, she reacted like calling her "Imo" is a curse. She said God forbid. I asked her why is she discriminating her fellow people? She couldn't give me an answer. So I decided not to prolong on it.

That shows Igbos don't love each other. They are the ones dividing themselves.

abobakucannibal:




So na you Yoruba go tell us who be Igbo and who no be Igbo.Una get problem.What if I also say there are no Yorubas in kogi and kwara.

abobakucannibal:



Yoruba mind your business abi anioma and ikwerri sound Yoruba?

attackgat:


You forgot to add in the above that the individual examples you gave are thousands of miles from each other. But in the case of Anioma and Igbos, it is just one big area with no distance between them.

It is quite funny that a person or people speak Igbo as their ancestral language and have Igbo surname and there will still be argument if they are Igbo or not. There is no ethnic group in Nigeria called Anioma or Delta Igbo. Igbo is Igbo.

Can I go and tell the Obi of Asaba, Professor Chike Edozien that he is not Igbo and he will not kill me? Can I go and tell the 'Eze Ogwashiuku' Professor Chukwuka Okonjo (Ngozi Okonjo-Iwealas father) that he is not Igbo and he won't throw me out of his Palace? Can I go and tell the Obi of Issele-Uku, Obi Henry Ezeagwuna that he is not Igbo and he won't curse me?

The Igbanke (Igbo Akiri) people of Edo state are ruled by Eze's and Ndichie's. It is even Igbanke that people might question their ethnicity but yet, many are proud Igbos and wish to join their Ika brethren in Delta state.

So people should stop this 'Delta-Igbo' thing. Delta is a foreign word that cannot be used to connote any ethnic group in Nigeria.

SlayerSupreme:

You're wrong. It is your Ogba people that don't see the Igbo as brothers. You people are very quick to claim Benin. Take back that accusation.

Ikechukwu48:


The binis you see in anioma today are children of migrants. No offence but the Bini have also tried on multiple occasions to rewrite severall anioma history....for example: the Agbor. Prior to the current agbor king who testify that agbor kingdom stems from Benin kingdom, his father wrote a book stating otherwise. In the book, his dad attested that the origin is currently unknown and even stated and I quote "even the Bini that claims he's one of their own". It's similar to how I read an Onitsha argument about their origin and several of their people stated that the Binis migrated with their current leader to Onitsha but unfortunately, they started rewriting their history till now Onitsha is wrongly known as a kingdom started by Bini despite it is not. I've not read issele uku history so I cannot truly say if it's the same scenario but who knows

attackgat:


[b]It could be that she or someone she knows had a bitter experience with a guy from Imo state, nothing more. [/b]What ethnic group loves themselves 100%?

Igboid:


The migrating people from Bini to Anioma were Igbo speaking already. Eze Chima migration was a reverse migration. His name is Eze Chima for crying out loud. Not Osaze Osazuwa.

So even though they resided in Bini, they were not Binis. This is the only logical explanation why they were Igbo speaking from the word go!


They had bini friends in their company, yet on getting to Anioma, they met many primitive Igbo speaking groups already stationed there. This too was recorded in their histories.
It was easy to see why Igbo language prevailed in the end there.

Shym3xx:


Oh, shut up. If you claim you have ancestral ties to a place, doesn't that mean you're from there? Don't play semantics with.

And I was going to stop posting on the thread, but the fact that you opened ya ignorant mouth to chat shitt with the aid of ya fingers is the reason why I'll post these excerpts below:



This is an account from British explorers in 1900 and according to them, Igbos were slaves all over the Delta districts and the outnumber the original inhabitants.

Swallow the humble pie and accept you're wrong. Don't let me post more damning academic proofs.

Igboid:


The migrating people from Bini to Anioma were Igbo speaking already. Eze Chima migration was a reverse migration. His name is Eze Chima for crying out loud. Not Osaze Osazuwa.

So even though they resided in Bini, they were not Binis. This is the only logical explanation why they were Igbo speaking from the word go!


They had bini friends in their company, yet on getting to Anioma, they met many primitive Igbo speaking groups already stationed there. This too was recorded in their histories.
It was easy to see why Igbo language prevailed in the end there.

MrPresident1:


I will not allow this bare faced lie to stand. It is a fact of history that the Oyo empire stretched as far as Ashanti land in present day Ghana, and they paid tribute to the Alaafin. Dahomey and other kingdoms started to gain some measure of independence when the Oyo empire, as with all other empires, started to decline.

Ketu is not a village, like you have your small small clans and villages in Anambra, to this day Ketu exists in Benin republic, a thriving people who recognise their heritage as part of the people of Oduduwa, how come we have Ketu in Benin when 'the entire rest' were sold to the portuguese? I understand former president Boni Yayi of Benin is a prince of Ketu. If Ketu was defeated by the Dahomeans, it was after the fall of Oyo

Enough of your lies.

iamord:


but why do you people like to lie and distort history, or is is because you dont see anyone around trashing this your claims..
below is a diagram which shows oyo empire farthest reach , which does not exceed Benin republic..oyo empire has no history of stretching into the Ashanti empire what so ever.. the oyo empire NEVER expanded into Ghana !!!the highest oyo empire went to is the ewe and aja states of Benin republic and togo and In 1764, a joint Akan(Akyem)-Dahomey-Oyo force defeated an Asante army to define borders between neighboring states, this war even happened in far away dahomey.. .. ... pls you people should stop spreading rubbish... not every one is naive and misinformed

Ubenedictus:

Take a look at this ika names, ehi, ose, they are edoid.
1. ehiabor- Gods blessing
2. ehioma - GOD is good
3. ehiwarrior- it is god we pray to
4. omiken- mercy
5. ehimeninomiken God has shown me mercy
6. osedodo- God i plead
7. ehiedu- God leads
8. kpanmiose- God i thank you
9. ewere- good luck
10. osebor - Gods blessing

cremedelacreme:
Nice write up. Igbo is Igbo. From Igbanke to Ihiala, Ahoada to Arochukwu, Oguta to Oba, Ezza to Etche. there is nothing like ''Delta Igbo'' or ''Main Igbo'.


Meanwhile....

Ubenedictus:
Yah it may very well b true, eze chima may already b ibo. And it may be true that his migration populated the area with ibos even though the primitive people were edoid, and subsequent ibo migration turned the tide of language, the edoid clothing, culture and even names remained but the language and evolve to 80% igbo.

My point is dat the migration and primitive people may b either ibo or non ibo.

chukzyblingz:
you're not from Delta hence not an Anioma person but you've been mentioning your Bini influenced town and your Bini sounding name that I'm curious to know about it.

CeoMYN:

wanne woru obu ali. The igbos are good but just their greediness.
They don't even see us as brothers, we call the igbos Nde Isoma here.

MrPresident1:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Atakpam%C3%A9
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oyo_Empire

Dahomey was subject and tributary to Oyo. At the battle of Atakpam, Ashanti was defeated by Oyo and Dahomean forces.

Shym3xx:


Lol. You sound like an illiterate. And it seems you have a fundamental problem with English language. Especially reading and comprehension.

Everything I posted on this thread has been pretty much clear and straightforward. Igbos aren't indigenous to Delta. They got there as slaves, just as they were slaves everywhere in Rivers, all the way to a place called Bonny and where Jaja of Opobo ruled.

Those tribal settlement weren't that big back then and it was easy for the Igbo slaves to dominate them in terms of population. And everything is well documented. The population of the Itsekiris back then was about 10,000-20,000. The Urhobos weren't even more than 100,000. Now imagine what the huge Igbo population of 4million would do to all the other small settlements where they worked as slaves. It's well documented that Igbo slaves outnumber the number of indigenous folks where the worked in that axis.

Anyway, why do people who got to a location as slaves want to force their identity on those they met there? To know Igbos aren't indigenous to Delta - you just have to check the history of Onitsha. Onitsha folks just started embracing Igbo identity less than 50 years ago loool. Stop reaching loool.

Ngozi123:


There are 'Anioma' people in Anambra State and other areas of Igboland. If you really were from the Anioma axis then you would know this.

Igboid:
An Easy way to know what original Ika names sounded like is to take a look at Igbanke, the closest Ika clan to Bini, which as of today is still in Edo state.

The people have been fighting tooth and nail over centuries to hold unto what they called "Original Ika" names, that the Binis through systemic orchestrations had both subtly and forcefully tried to replace with Bini/ edoid names.

Let's hear from the Igbankes themselves:

ISSUES FROM THE STATEMENT OF FACTS
Consequent upon the facts drawn from the subject matter, some issues could be deduced to support Igbanke search for linguistic and cultural identity. These issues would go a long way in justifying our position.
1)Igbanke was deliberately, but selfishly carved into Edo state during the 1991 state creation irrespective of the linguistic difference between the people of Igbanke and the dominant Bini speaking population of the state.
2) Over 96% of Ika speaking communities in the defunct Bendel state were carved into Delta state while Igbanke and a handful other Ika speaking communities were severed into Edo state where they are presently subjected to acute linguistic and sundry discriminations
3) Because of linguistic factor, the people of Igbanke feel more at home with their kiths and kins (Ika speaking people) in Edo and Delta states.
4) Igbanke is made up of six (6) autonomous clans: Ake/Obiogba, Idumu-Odin, Igbontor, Oligie, Omolua and Ottah. These clans were governed by traditional rulers called ‘’Eze or Obi’’. These terms were of Ika origin, but have been forcefully changed to ‘’Enogie’’ a Bini term by the conquering Binis.
5) Our ancestral heritage like language, names and beliefs are being systematically destroyed by the domineering power of the Binis.

ARGUMENTS IN SUPPORT OF ISSUES RAISED
1)Most Igbanke indigenes who have Ika ancestral names like, “Emeka”, “Maduka”, “Chukwuka’’, “Chinyere”, “Amaka and “Ogorchukwu etc are often confronted with all forms of harrowing experiences when there are needs to visit our council headquarters, Abudu to process one official documents or the other. We are often denied the issuance of documents like, ‘’Certificate of Local Government of origin’’, Protest Letter’’, To Whom it May Concern’’ etc on the guise that we are Igbos not Binis.
2) Those who have the likes of the Ika aforementioned names, but can speak Bini language are rarely subjected to the above embarrassments and discriminations. This act goes a long way to vindicate our fear that there is a subtle, but carefully planned agenda to make us lose and abandon our ancestral linguistic and cultural heritage.
3) In order to escape from these unnecessary embarrassments, some have no other option left than to change their identity from Ika to Bini names.
4) Today, we, the good people of Igbanke are gradually losing our once envied linguistic and cultural identity.
5) Some of the eminent sons and daughters of Igbanke, whom out of their outstanding contributions to the development of the community, were recognized and given chieftaincy titles had had such titles changed from their original Ika origin to Bini equivalence. For example, few years ago, one of our sons who addressed himself as “Chief Orike-Eze” in Oba of Benin palace was shamefully harassed, insulted and forcefully forced, right in the palace to change the title to its Bini version. According to the palace, the title, “Orike-Eze” had its origin from Ika and Igbo nations.
5) Most times, when we have cause to attend meetings with the Binis in our local government area or senatorial district, deliberations are often conducted in Bini in language without considering the fact that the people of Igbanke in such meeting neither speak nor understand the language. Often than not, when we attend such meetings, we left the venue more confused than we were before we went.
6) In Edo state, Igbanke is only tolerated, not respected, seen, but not accepted. Today, in Edo state, plans are underway by the state Ministry of Education to introduce the teaching of Bini language in Primary and Secondary schools across Edo south senatorial district including Igbanke. Unfortunately, our indigenous language, Ika is not in any way considered qualified and appropriate to be taught in schools in Igbanke. To us, its another deliberate attempt to send our linguistic identity into extinction.
7) Our people have also suffered several inexplicable discriminations when..."

Even though Igbanke like the mainstream Ika remain Indifferent to the Igbo tag and even atimes Igbophobic. It's pertinent to observe what the Igbanke consider proper Ika names from the article above and attempts by Bini at replacing them all with Bini ones with force, having failed to do so subtly over the centuries.

Igboid:


Lol! Those are ancient Bini names taken by Ika ancestors during the Bini Renaissance to curry favour from Bini. They survived today as Surnames in Ika and rarely first names.

Take a look at the Bini names common in Ugbodu today that was taken by Ugbodu kings during the Bini Renaissance to curry favour from Binis.

Ozoluwa,
Izebuwa,
Ogbelaka,
Izedomen
, Osakpalor,
Esigie,
Igbinadolor,
Osalohua,
Osamewanmen,
Ebor,

I guess the Ugbodu people are no longer of Yoruboid origin, just because they adopted those Bini names?

You are on a slippery rope here.

supersystems:
I disagree with him slightly. As a Niger Deltan Man who travels and interact freely with people from different tribes Have toured and stayed in out 57 cities i think i can say one or two things about Nigeria after over 20 years in Nigeria.

Delta Igbo is a nice descriptive for my ibusa and Anoina brothers. I find them to be very straight forward people in many areas and more straight forward than my other fellow Niger Delta brothers. Infact i'm planning a resettlement i'm heading to Anioma and Ibusa axis cos i see them as a fantastic people. The descriptive gives very good report about the people not a negative one. Trust me my father and mother's side may nto see me for 20 more years ( though they haven't seen me for 20 years now ) but Anioma go see me live. They are a lovely people anyday anytime

The Urhobo's have a split unit and when u see one part you may get an imperfect view about what they think. We dont see Ifeanyi Okowa nor anyone from Asaba or Ibusa as an Igbo we see them as Aniomas who can decide who they are and their identity. Infact if there's going to be a split it wont be typical ndigbo versus urhobos etc. The Aniomas will reserve the full right to be an independent state or align with Ndigbo or The Niger Delta Overall o i'm coolest with Anioma my Urhobo Ijaw can be very sneaky attimes and yes they are my people but anyday anytime Aniomas are good people who should be proud of themselves.

The people who we all are waiting to understand is our Ikwerre people. Perhaps when i make an Ikwerre friend i can understand them beta

uckennety:

Isoma is D language of amaigbo in imo state it's not bad! Egbema calls us ISUu

iamord:

the above link clarifies all what i have said