Please I need a real Man Of God that will help in delivering my family. We have been through a lot in the last few years.We have visited many places without any solution.We have fasted, prayed,gave out alms all to no avail.Please I really need your help if you posses the gift of sight.

sadiyaisiyaku:
Please I need a real Man Of God that will help in delivering my family. We have been through a lot in the last few years.We have visited many places without any solution. We have fasted, prayed,gave out alms all to no avail.Please I really need your help if you posses the gift of sight.

Considering that you have already done that, don't you think it is safe to conclude that fasting, praying and giving alms simply because you seek a "miracle" simply DO NOT work?

You have to employ logic to your situation.

What problems are you facing?

What is the best solution to that problem?

Can you afford the solution?

Can you work to afford the solution?

etc

I am a man of God,I can help . But you will need to see me in person. I have a special prayer for you.

All your family needs is salvation. Visit this church. The Apostolic faith church. May God bless you

hahn:


Considering that you have already done that, don't you think it is safe to conclude that fasting, praying and giving alms simply because you seek a "miracle" simply DO NOT work?

You have to employ logic to your situation.

What problems are you facing?

What is the best solution to that problem?

Can you afford the solution?

Can you work to afford the solution?

etc

What if your atheistic opinion doesn't work?

What if it is a medical problem, as in the case of my younger brother who got healed permanently right in the church when he was suffering from KIDNEY FAILURE at the age of 10, after the doctor said "THERE IS NOTHING MEDICAL SCIENCES CAN DO IN HIS CASE"? In the case of my younger brother, the doctor assured us of his death because all hope was lost, but thank God for Jesus' name. That's why I look foolish to my then-atheistic self when I was saying that there is NOTHING like miracle, because as far as I have lived I HAVE SEEN MANY SPONTANEOUS MIRACLE I CAN NOT DENY.


Bro, a times, SCIENCE and LOGIC CAN SUCK! Trust me bro they do! They aren't perfect!

I hope you would say, that since science and logic has no solution to offer, he should have lived and died in the disease, because in atheism NOTHING, even life or death, MATTERS!

sadiyaisiyaku:
Please I need a real Man Of God that will help in delivering my family. We have been through a lot in the last few years.We have visited many places without any solution.We have fasted, prayed,gave out alms all to no avail.Please I really need your help if you posses the gift of sight.

Hello your words here are a bit vogue as details are required. God knows his elect and He alone can deliver and bring your family out. No man has this ability but God does. Pls pm me. You can check my threads to know who I am.

Shalom

hahn:


Considering that you have already done mithat, don't you think it is safe to conclude that fasting, praying and giving alms simply because you seek a "miracle" simply DO NOT work?

You have to employ logic to your situation.

What problems are you facing?

What is the best solution to that problem?

Can you afford the solution?

Can you work to afford the solution?

etc

I suggest you keep quiet if you have nothing to offer. The OP obviously is smart enough to know why she seeks the services of a minister of the gospel. Do not try to paint a picture suggesting she is stupid because she is not.
If you think prayers do not work...think again! My threads declare testimonies on the efficacy of Prayer and God and just yesterday evening another testimony just happened to a nairalander who reached out to me for help. This time she will be the one to share it live here on Nairaland along with proof of her testimony.

You can keep trying to deceive but God remains true.

promise10:

What if your atheistic opinion doesn't work?

What if it is a medical problem, as in the case of my younger brother who got healed permanently right in the church when he was suffering from KIDNEY FAILURE at the age of 10, after the doctor said "THERE IS NOTHING MEDICAL SCIENCES CAN DO IN HIS CASE"? In the case of my younger brother, the doctor assured us of his death because all hope was lost, but thank God for Jesus' name. That's why I look foolish to my then-atheistic self when I was saying that there is NOTHING like miracle, because as far as I have lived I HAVE SEEN MANY SPONTANEOUS MIRACLE I CAN NOT DENY.


Bro, a times, SCIENCE and LOGIC CAN SUCK! Trust me bro they do! They aren't perfect!

I hope you would say, that since science and logic has no solution to offer, he should have lived and died in the disease, because in atheism NOTHING, even life or death, MATTERS!

Why would a doctor say that nothing can be done about kidney failure?

Ranchhoddas:
Why would a doctor say that nothing can be done about kidney failure?

Bro, this WAS A VERY SERIOUS COMPLICATED CASE!

You may not understand this exactly the way it all happened. You only missed the most interesting part of this incident. Imagine a 10 year old boy! To tell the incident, is so mind striking that I get soaked with tears each time I look at him and remember what happened. IT IS ALL A MIRACLE!

Even when he was he healed, the doctor mocked at us but when he ran his usual enormous test. The doctor CONFIRMED a TOTAL healing miracle. At the end of the day he was asking us, "WHAT REALLY HAPPENED?"

4everGod:


I suggest you keep quiet if you have nothing to offer. The OP obviously is smart enough to know why she seeks the services of a minister of the gospel. Do not try to paint a picture suggesting she is stupid because she is not.
If you think prayers do not work...think again! My threads declare testimonies on the efficacy of Prayer and God and just yesterday evening another testimony just happened to a nairalander who reached out to me for help. This time she will be the one to share it live here on Nairaland along with proof of her testimony.

You can keep trying to deceive but God remains true.

But the op has been praying and fasting and spending money on her pastor and church just so her problems and [size=20pt]SHE STILL HAS THESE PROBLEMS![/size]

Common sense should let her know that it it is ineffective.

As regards your threads, purrrllleeeeaaasssseeeee

hahn:


But the op has been praying and fasting and spending money on her pastor and church just so her problems and [size=20pt]SHE STILL HAS THESE PROBLEMS![/size]

Common sense should let her know that it it is ineffective.

As regards your threads, purrrllleeeeaaasssseeeee

Is common sense your exclusive right?

promise10:

What if your atheistic opinion doesn't work?

My atheist position? Did I mention that atheism is a cure? Do you even know what the fvck atheism means?

What if it is a medical problem, as in the case of my younger brother who got healed permanently right in the church when he was suffering from KIDNEY FAILURE at the age of 10, after the doctor said "THERE IS NOTHING MEDICAL SCIENCES CAN DO IN HIS CASE"? In the case of my younger brother, the doctor assured us of his death because all hope was lost, but thank God for Jesus' name. That's why I look foolish to my then-atheistic self when I was saying that there is NOTHING like miracle, because as far as I have lived I HAVE SEEN MANY SPONTANEOUS MIRACLE I CAN NOT DENY.

To make this your testimony valid, let us replicate the process by which your brother was "healed". We can go to LUTH and you can pray to your god to heal all the people suffering from kidney failure.

Have you ever wondered why there are hospitals when prayers work? Why go to a hospital when you can go to a church?

Bro, a times, SCIENCE and LOGIC CAN SUCK! Trust me bro they do! They aren't perfect!

Of course not. But at least it is more reasonable than repeating something, prayers in this case, that is obviously inefficient

I hope you would say, that since science and logic has no solution to offer, he should have lived and died in the disease, because in atheism NOTHING, even life or death, MATTERS!

Just read yourself. Science and logic have no solution to offer but the process for making the device you used in posting that nonsense comment is detailed in your unholy bible abi?

4everGod:



Is common sense your exclusive right?

No. I doubt it. I am a human. Stupidity is a part of us.

But then, "you cannot continue doing the same things and expecting the same result. That is insanity"

hahn:


No. I doubt it. I am a human. Stupidity is a part of us.

But then, "you cannot continue doing the same things and expecting the same result. That is insanity"

Exactly! The key word there id EXPECT! She is not expecting the same result because she feels there must be something she has left out...something undone...something not done right....or in this case something done with the wrong people which was why her thread specifically says she is seeking a TRUE believer.

Do you understand it now?

4everGod:



Exactly! The key word there id EXPECT! She is not expecting the same result because she feels there must be something she has left out...something undone...something not done right....or in this case something done with the wrong people which was why her thread specifically says she is seeking a TRUE believer.

Do you understand it now?

Lol. These are simple excuses used by patorpreneurs to exploit their gullible folk.

There is something she has not done abi? You mean more tithe? More offering? More prayers? More spiritual works?

Can't you discern that the op is frustrated because none of these things have worked?

Keywords: NONE OF THESE THINGS HAVE WORKED

And you expect her to continue?

Can't her god see that she has an urgent need and solve it if it indeed exists? What pleasure does god derive from watching it's children suffer?

What a psychopathic and incompetent "God". I am just glad it not real

hahn:


Lol. These are simple excuses used by patorpreneurs to exploit their gullible folk.

There is something she has not done abi? You mean more tithe? More offering? More prayers? More spiritual works?

Can't you discern that the op is frustrated because none of these things have worked?

Keywords: NONE OF THESE THINGS HAVE WORKED

And you expect her to continue?

Can't her god see that she has an urgent need and solve it if it indeed exists? What pleasure does god derive from watching it's children suffer?

What a psychopathic and incompetent "God". I am just glad it not real

Now you are simply sounding pathetically sadistic.

Why are you trolling her thread? She knows you don't mean well for her so quit looking and sounding desperate for attention.

If you fail to see why she is making this plea then keep trolling and see if she will pay you any mind.

Now your focus is not longer on the OP but now shifted to a God you hate which to you does not exist yet you have so much hate for the supposed non existent.

I think you need to see a shrink yourself.

4everGod:



Now you are simply sounding pathetically sadistic.

Why are you trolling her thread? She knows you don't mean well for her so quit looking and sounding desperate for attention.

I do not mean well for her by telling her to to approach her problems rationally and not continue being a victim and maga to her pastor?

If you fail to see why she is making this plea then keep trolling and see if she will pay you any mind.

Well, she asked for advice. It is left for her to pick which one she feels it is better. Afterall, I am not the one threatening her with hell fire and eternal damnation for not "believing blindly"

Now your focus is not longer on the OP but now shifted to a God you hate which to you does not exist yet you have so much hate for the supposed non existent.

My focus can't be on god because it is non existent, apart from in the brains of those who believe it, but if I have any hate at all, it is for the level that religion has degenerated Nigerians too. Instead of action, we "pray". And even when it doesn't work, instead of coming to the conclusion that indeed it doesn't work, we continue dwelling in the same delusional wishful thinking and ultimately blame the devil. It is pathetic really.

I think you need to see a shrink yourself.

Yes. I will see one and book a session for you

hahn:






I do not mean well for her by telling her to to approach her problems rationally and not continue being a victim and maga to her pastor?



Well, she asked for advice. It is left for her to pick which one she feels it is better. Afterall, I am not the one threatening her with hell fire and eternal damnation for not "believing blindly"



My focus can't be on god because it is non existent, apart from in the brains of those who believe it, but if I have any hate at all, it is for the level that religion has degenerated Nigerians too. Instead of action, we "pray". And even when it doesn't work, instead of coming to the conclusion that indeed it doesn't work, we continue dwelling in the same delusional wishful thinking and ultimately blame the devil. It is pathetic really.



Yes. I will see one and book a session for you

Make sure you book a session for me with a Shrink who is an atheist. I plan to make a convert out of that one.

4everGod:


Make sure you book a session for me with a Shrink who is an atheist. I plan to make a convert out of that one.

I will book a double session then. I am assuming you intend to go with Jehovah as well, as a form of proof that it actually exists? It definitely needs psychological examination.

I can only imagine the amount of psychological damage it's mass murder of humanity during Noah's flood and all the screams of the women and children it killed in Sodom and Gomorah and not to mention just sitticng back and watching billions of people suffering and dying daily, it experiences

hahn:


I will book a double session then. I am assuming you intend to go with Jehovah as well, as a form of proof that it actually exists? It definitely needs psychological examination.

I can only imagine the amount of psychological damage it's mass murder of humanity during Noah's flood and all the screams of the women and children it killed in Sodom and Gomorah and not to mention just sitticng back and watching billions of people suffering and dying daily, it experiences

Read up! I am sure you would see who actually needs psychological evaluation and a hug.

4everGod:



Read up! I am sure you would see who actually needs psychological evaluation and a hug.

It has to be Jehovah na/

It killed EVERYONE in the whole world by drowning them
It killed thousands of women and children in Sodom and Gomorrah.
It created deadly viruses and bacteria that kill millions of human yearly.
It sits back and watches people suffer and die every day.
It built a place where billions of people will be tormented, burnt and tortured for ETERNITY

You have to admit that your god is mad

hahn:


It has to be Jehovah na/

It killed EVERYONE in the whole world by drowning them
It killed thousands of women and children in Sodom and Gomorrah.
It created deadly viruses and bacteria that kill millions of human yearly.
It sits back and watches people suffer and die every day.
It built a place where billions of people will be tormented, burnt and tortured for ETERNITY

You have to admit that your god is mad

Now this post is worthy of an award on delusion.

First you say Jehovah does not exist and he isnt real...then you rant about him being responsible for Noahs flood and bacteria and creating hell for people...

What part of HE DOES NOT EXIST or HE IS NOT REAL don't you understand?

If you say He isnt real then why do you blame Him for all these plus hate Him.

Can someone who never existed create? Can someone who never existed flood the earth? Can someone who never existed be hated?

You do need a shrink.

hahn:


My atheist position? Did I mention that atheism is a cure? Do you even know what the fvck atheism means?



To make this your testimony valid, let us replicate the process by which your brother was "healed". We can go to LUTH and you can pray to your god to heal all the people suffering from kidney failure.

Have you ever wondered why there are hospitals when prayers work? Why go to a hospital when you can go to a church?




Of course not. But at least it is more reasonable than repeating something, prayers in this case, that is obviously inefficient



Just read yourself. Science and logic have no solution to offer but the process for making the device you used in posting that nonsense comment is detailed in your unholy bible abi?

Did I say position? Are you no longer an atheist? Is an atheistic view of life no longer the basis of yous thoughts and opinions? Why ask me if I know what atheism is all about? Bro wake up!

If I would go to LUTH to PUT GOD TO A TEST AND TEMPT HIM, then what is the difference between the devil and I, who tempted Jesus to turn stone into bread after seeing he had fasted for 40 days and night. I don't need to put God to a test to prove to you that my testimony is real. By asking for that, the bible exposes you as a devil for trying to tempt God. If we go to LUTH to tempt God(put God to a test) to heal and he heals so that YOU CAN BELIEVE IN HIM, doesn't that make him an idol?

There are many INSTANTENOUS miracles I have searched for and I have seen WITH MY BARE EYES because of my honesty to know how true miracles are. Both INSTANT STRETCHING of the arms ON MY BARE FACE during the laying of hands conducted by the pastor.

MUST GOD WORK BY GIVING US RADICAL ANSWERS TO PRAYERS? Don't you think that if we say that God is supreme, that in his supremacy, he can still allow the principles of science to help in some areas he wills?

The hospital you are even talking about is not even at it's best. THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE DIE DAILY IN HOSPITAL because sciences suck A TIMES, of which my younger brother would have been a victim of. Why would you expect someone to rely on sciences?

It has been LONG AGO I stopped going to the hospital. The last time I went to the hospital, I got some drugs from my professional family doctor, TO BE FRANK, I used those drugs and that night was like HELL to me. NEVER did I sleep that night, because it worsened. That was the day I stopped going to the hospital.

You are asking why there are still hospitals when prayer works. Yes, there are still hospitals, but yet why do millions of people DIE every year right in the hospital. If you ever wanted to know if prayer works you would taken up the challenge @kingebukasblog threw at you, to come to a lord's chosen crusade together with your investigation team and your HD VIDEO CAMERA. And see it happening right before YOUR EYES. But shamefully, you avoided the challenge out of fear! It is a shame!

hahn:


But the op has been praying and fasting and spending money on her pastor and church just so her problems and [size=20pt]SHE STILL HAS THESE PROBLEMS![/size]

Common sense should let her know that it it is ineffective.

As regards your threads, purrrllleeeeaaasssseeeee

If this is what you really think about prayers then you are simply deluded!

God DOES NOT answer prayers the way we will, but the way HE WILL. We don't know the best, but he knows the best because he is SUPREME!


So, that I prayed about something and it is delayed, means it can never be answered and as such prayer is useless. Which of the planet do you come from?

If you are honest in your views on prayers. Why can't you be honest at the same time in the case of science? What about people who will spend all they have at the hospital to see that their loved one is treated, only to receive a dead corpse at the end of the day? What about people who go to the hospital to get treated after few months of recovery the sickness re-occurs, only to be dead at the end of every thing.

hahn:


But the op has been praying and fasting and spending money on her pastor and church just so her problems and [size=20pt]SHE STILL HAS THESE PROBLEMS![/size]

Common sense should let her know that it it is ineffective.

As regards your threads, purrrllleeeeaaasssseeeee

So in a sincere view of this case, are you advising that if someone goes to hospital and couldn't get treated after all measures taken by the doctors, then it is advisable that the person stops going to the hospital since the treatment he received was ineffective?

hahn:


My atheist position? Did I mention that atheism is a cure? Do you even know what the fvck atheism means?



To make this your testimony valid, let us replicate the process by which your brother was "healed". We can go to LUTH and you can pray to your god to heal all the people suffering from kidney failure.

Have you ever wondered why there are hospitals when prayers work? Why go to a hospital when you can go to a church?




Of course not. But at least it is more reasonable than repeating something, prayers in this case, that is obviously inefficient



Just read yourself. Science and logic have no solution to offer but the process for making the device you used in posting that nonsense comment is detailed in your unholy bible abi?

You last paragraph is a big delusion.

This is WHAT I SAID, don't be insane please!

"I hope you would say, that since science and logic
has no solution to offer(I mean in the testimony I shared, he should have lived and died in the disease, because in atheism NOTHING,
even life or death, MATTERS!?"

You avoided tackling th issue and enjoyed faking up a shadow and fighting the shadow you faked up. This is where insanity comes in!

hahn:


It has to be Jehovah na/

It killed EVERYONE in the whole world by drowning them
It killed thousands of women and children in Sodom and Gomorrah.
It created deadly viruses and bacteria that kill millions of human yearly.
It sits back and watches people suffer and die every day.
It built a place where billions of people will be tormented, burnt and tortured for ETERNITY

You have to admit that your god is mad

Are you real?

A non existent god is mad? Bro, you have a 2 faced belief (aka state of confusion).

I have asked you to create a thread on this and let the whole NL watch us dance to the tone of this delusion you posted up there. Hope you will accept this proposal this time around just the way your co-confused atheistic friend(hopefulLandlord) did.

promise10:

So in a sincere view of this case, are you advising that if someone goes to hospital and couldn't get treated after all measures taken by the doctors, then it is advisable that the person stops going to the hospital since the treatment he received was ineffective?

It would be advisable to check another hospital and employ the services of doctors who are better qualified.

"Praying" that the sickness goes away is a useless venture.

If this is what you really think about prayers then you are simply deluded!

Do you even know the meaning of the word?

delusion
dɪˈl(j)uːʒ(ə)n/Submit
noun
an idiosyncratic belief or impression maintained despite being contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder.

God DOES NOT answer prayers the way we will, but the way HE WILL. We don't know the best, but he knows the best because he is SUPREME!

Lol. The truth is it NEVER answers prayers na. If it did, there wouldn't be people suffering in this world. What does your god gain by watching people die and suffer daily?

So, that I prayed about something and it is delayed, means it can never be answered and as such prayer is useless. Which of the planet do you come from?

Lol. It is "delayed"? Again, What does your god gain by watching people die and suffer daily? It knows it can do something about it but does nothing. Instead, it is waiting for the "perfect" time. Sounds like procrastination/incompetence.

If you are honest in your views on prayers. Why can't you be honest at the same time in the case of science? What about people who will spend all they have at the hospital to see that their loved one is treated, only to receive a dead corpse at the end of the day? What about people who go to the hospital to get treated after few months of recovery the sickness re-occurs, only to be dead at the end of every thing.

Of course science doesn't have ALL the answer and neither does it claim so. There are so many things we do not know about ourselves and the world around us. Science says, "okay we do not know, let us research" whereas religion says, "god did it" or "the devil did it"

On average, more people have benefited from visiting a hospital or from the products of science than in "praying". When you fall ill, you go to the hospital, meds are prescribed, you get well and that's it.

On the other hand, you pray and pray and pray and even when it doesn't work, you are still advised to pray. Isn't that madness?

At least doctors will tell you, "there is nothing we can do here" and refer you to a specialist. Religion will say keep praying, god will answer you someday

The bible makes bogus bold claims but none of what they claim can be replicated today. Does that not tell you that it is all bullshit?

Did I say position? Are you no longer an atheist? Is an atheistic view of life no longer the basis of yous thoughts and opinions? Why ask me if I know what atheism is all about? Bro wake up!

Guy, an atheist simply does not believe in a supreme entity. Every other thing you assume is your own personal misunderstanding of the subject.

If I would go to LUTH to PUT GOD TO A TEST AND TEMPT HIM, then what is the difference between the devil and I, who tempted Jesus to turn stone into bread after seeing he had fasted for 40 days and night. I don't need to put God to a test to prove to you that my testimony is real. By asking for that, the bible exposes you as a devil for trying to tempt God. If we go to LUTH to tempt God(put God to a test) to heal and he heals so that YOU CAN BELIEVE IN HIM, doesn't that make him an idol?

You cannot test god because deep down in your heart you know it won't work

There are many INSTANTENOUS miracles I have searched for and I have seen WITH MY BARE EYES because of my honesty to know how true miracles are. Both INSTANT STRETCHING of the arms ON MY BARE FACE during the laying of hands conducted by the pastor.

@ bolded, what does that mean?

MUST GOD WORK BY GIVING US RADICAL ANSWERS TO PRAYERS? Don't you think that if we say that God is supreme, that in his supremacy, he can still allow the principles of science to help in some areas he wills?

People suffer and die daily. Thousands of women and children. Don't you think that is enough for your god to be proactive and stop acting like the Nigerian FG?

The hospital you are even talking about is not even at it's best. THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE DIE DAILY IN HOSPITAL because sciences suck A TIMES, of which my younger brother would have been a victim of. Why would you expect someone to rely on sciences?

Science has a higher success rate than god bro. You cannot deny that.

It has been LONG AGO I stopped going to the hospital. The last time I went to the hospital, I got some drugs from my professional family doctor, TO BE FRANK, I used those drugs and that night was like HELL to me. NEVER did I sleep that night, because it worsened. That was the day I stopped going to the hospital.

Same here. I prefer using herbal medicine to orthodox medicine because it has worked for me and the only time I have been to ANY hospital in more than 15 years was to visit or help take care of friends and family.

You are asking why there are still hospitals when prayer works. Yes, there are still hospitals, but yet why do millions of people DIE every year right in the hospital. If you ever wanted to know if prayer works you would taken up the challenge @kingebukasblog threw at you, to come to a lord's chosen crusade together with your investigation team and your HD VIDEO CAMERA. And see it happening right before YOUR EYES. But shamefully, you avoided the challenge out of fear! It is a shame!

If prayer works and god exists, why do people die AT ALL?

What does god gain from watching people die and suffer?

Lol. I did not avoid the challenge bro. I simply told him to set up a meeting so we can both go together. I live in Sagamu, Ogun state and The HQ of Lord's Chosen in at Ijesha, Lagos. You really do not expect me to waste my time for nothing.

You can take up the challenge if you like.

4everGod:


Now this post is worthy of an award on delusion.

First you say Jehovah does not exist and he isnt real...then you rant about him being responsible for Noahs flood and bacteria and creating hell for people...

I am talking to someone who believes it is real and who believes in all those fairytales, am I not?

What part of HE DOES NOT EXIST or HE IS NOT REAL don't you understand?

Oh, you agree

If you say He isnt real then why do you blame Him for all these plus hate Him.

I do not. All I am trying to point out that IF IT IS REAL an all loving god, if it existed, would not sit back and watch people die and suffer.

Now put yourself in this position, you are walking home from church service late in the night and you hear a women screaming, "help! help!" and it is obvious she is being raped. Would you try to help or walk away?

Now, imagine that your god is everywhere and sees everything which means it witnesses ALL the rape cases in the world including cases where children get sexually molested and does NOTHING about it. Is this justice?

Can someone who never existed create? Can someone who never existed flood the earth? Can someone who never existed be hated?

Of course not. That is what I have been trying to say. God does not exist so it cannot have created the world, it cannot have flooded the earth(that story was stolen by the way. Read up on "The epic of gilgamesh". I will even help you small.

The Gilgamesh flood myth is a flood myth in the Epic of Gilgamesh. Many scholars believe that the flood myth was added to Tablet XI in the "standard version" of the Gilgamesh Epic by an editor who utilized the flood story from the Epic of Atrahasis.[1] A short reference to the flood myth is also present in the much older Sumerian Gilgamesh poems, from which the later Babylonian versions drew much of their inspiration and subject matter.

Read more @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilgamesh_flood_myth

You do need a shrink.

You need a brain bro

promise10:

Are you real?

A non existent god is mad? Bro, you have a 2 faced belief (aka state of confusion).

I have asked you to create a thread on this and let the whole NL watch us dance to the tone of this delusion you posted up there. Hope you will accept this proposal this time around just the way your co-confused atheistic friend(hopefulLandlord) did.

A thread on what? I must have missed the challenge

promise10:

You last paragraph is a big delusion.

This is WHAT I SAID, don't be insane please!

"I hope you would say, that since science and logic
has no solution to offer(I mean in the testimony I shared, he should have lived and died in the disease, because in atheism NOTHING,
even life or death, MATTERS!?"

You avoided tackling th issue and enjoyed faking up a shadow and fighting the shadow you faked up. This is where insanity comes in!

You don start. Why would you hope I say something like that?

I guess since you worship a psychopathic god, you will also act that way. Mad man

hahn:


It would be advisable to check another hospital and employ the services of doctors who are better qualified.

"Praying" that the sickness goes away is a useless venture.



Do you even know the meaning of the word?

delusion
dɪˈl(j)uːʒ(ə)n/Submit
noun
an idiosyncratic belief or impression maintained despite being contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder.



Lol. The truth is it NEVER answers prayers na. If it did, there wouldn't be people suffering in this world. What does your god gain by watching people die and suffer daily?




Lol. It is "delayed"? Again, What does your god gain by watching people die and suffer daily? It knows it can do something about it but does nothing. Instead, it is waiting for the "perfect" time. Sounds like procrastination/incompetence.



Of course science doesn't have ALL the answer and neither does it claim so. There are so many things we do not know about ourselves and the world around us. Science says, "okay we do not know, let us research" whereas religion says, "god did it" or "the devil did it"

On average, more people have benefited from visiting a hospital or from the products of science than in "praying". When you fall ill, you go to the hospital, meds are prescribed, you get well and that's it.

On the other hand, you pray and pray and pray and even when it doesn't work, you are still advised to pray. Isn't that madness?

At least doctors will tell you, "there is nothing we can do here" and refer you to a specialist. Religion will say keep praying, god will answer you someday

The bible makes bogus bold claims but none of what they claim can be replicated today. Does that not tell you that it is all bullshit?



Guy, an atheist simply does not believe in a supreme entity. Every other thing you assume is your own personal misunderstanding of the subject.



You cannot test god because deep down in your heart you know it won't work



@ bolded, what does that mean?



People suffer and die daily. Thousands of women and children. Don't you think that is enough for your god to be proactive and stop acting like the Nigerian FG?



Science has a higher success rate than god bro. You cannot deny that.



Same here. I prefer using herbal medicine to orthodox medicine because it has worked for me and the only time I have been to ANY hospital in more than 15 years was to visit or help take care of friends and family.



If prayer works and god exists, why do people die AT ALL?

What does god gain from watching people die and suffer?

Lol. I did not avoid the challenge bro. I simply told him to set up a meeting so we can both go together. I live in Sagamu, Ogun state and The HQ of Lord's Chosen in at Ijesha, Lagos. You really do not expect me to waste my time for nothing.

You can take up the challenge if you like.



I am talking to someone who believes it is real and who believes in all those fairytales, am I not?



Oh, you agree



I do not. All I am trying to point out that IF IT IS REAL an all loving god, if it existed, would not sit back and watch people die and suffer.

Now put yourself in this position, you are walking home from church service late in the night and you hear a women screaming, "help! help!" and it is obvious she is being raped. Would you try to help or walk away?

Now, imagine that your god is everywhere and sees everything which means it witnesses ALL the rape cases in the world including cases where children get sexually molested and does NOTHING about it. Is this justice?



Of course not. That is what I have been trying to say. God does not exist so it cannot have created the world, it cannot have flooded the earth(that story was stolen by the way. Read up on "The epic of gilgamesh". I will even help you small.

The Gilgamesh flood myth is a flood myth in the Epic of Gilgamesh. Many scholars believe that the flood myth was added to Tablet XI in the "standard version" of the Gilgamesh Epic by an editor who utilized the flood story from the Epic of Atrahasis.[1] A short reference to the flood myth is also present in the much older Sumerian Gilgamesh poems, from which the later Babylonian versions drew much of their inspiration and subject matter.

Read more @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilgamesh_flood_myth



You need a brain bro

You really need to ask yourself this simple question....


If a person does not believe something is real or ever existed why waste so much time and energy talking about it to someone else who believes it by using rhe same things he does not believe exists to try and make a point. Even psychology teaches on alternatives and speaking from ones direct perspective and not from anothers in order to profer an alternative.

You claim God does not exist yet ou throw a tantrum at the mention of anything relating to Him. What you are doing can be likened to a man who keeps shouting....NO NO NO at everyone as if there is no other word like YES in existence.

How would I blame my fathet for the crises I face or experience in this world is he never existed? Why would I ask my father to fix the problem if he never existed? You are talking like the child you are....


I see you have succeeded in derailing this thread opened by a simple nairalander seeking help just so you can shout GOD DOES NOT EXIST to her and everyone.

If that helps yu sleep at night then by all means continue.

To the OP you know God is real otherwise you would not have said the things u said in your OP so pm me like i said so we can talk. God bless you

4everGod:



Hello your words here are a bit vogue as details are required. God knows his elect and He alone can deliver and bring your family out. No man has this ability but God does. Pls pm me. You can check my threads to know who I am.

Shalom

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