ssaengine:
1. South African A-Darter missile
2. Intial design of Chinese PL-10 missile

They initially thought they could steal a lot more info on A-Darter. So initially just went ahead with our design. And when the initial stolen info dried up, they were forced to use their own intellect and change their design.

P.S this is an unofficial story and may or may not be completely made up :-)

jakeporeshenko:

henry i mentioned this back in July, i am not sure what plans NAF has for the C-130's that have been kept in storage in lagos but i know they all got a new paint job. they are no longer having their traditional camo scheme.
i'll try to find out whats going on.

jakeporeshenko:
Kenyan police air wing

chinese8107:


Yes,some "sub-standard" knock-offs,is not as good as the original,but far less expensive price. China made knock-offs weapons because of being embargo by US and EU for decades.

China has little to no arms deal with SA. The only deal I know is CS/VP3 is bought TOT from SA.
So you mean steal what technology?

South Africa follow the USA and EU 's embargo agaist China.No supprise on the black list.

andrewza:



rooivalk, A darter, pebble bed reactor are from the top of my head

chinese8107:


rooivalk deal was cancelled many years ago.China wanted to buy but SA refuse.

pebble bed reactor don't know

Henry240:


That information is not correct. I'll have to wait for confirmation from our side. As far as i know AESTL and a Nigerian company(BCgneeds) based in the US have been responsible for maintenance of all C-130s and G-222s in NAF service.

frumentius:


No need to get your knickers in a twist. Denel merely has the contract to maintain ALL Hercs and ALL Airbus products on the African continent.

Would think you'd approve when militaries in Africa no longer have to fly their aircraft to Europe for maintenance. For Nigeria for example, Denel is recruiting people to do the job in-country. Better, no?

PICS: Denel job ads for NAF Herc C-130s and Puma helis, for contracts that started in June 2014.

P.S. Denel also landed the contract with Russian helis. And yes, African militaries will be saving money by no longer flying aircraft elsewhere. Denel technicians come and base in-country so skills can be developed in-country.

Why would this be a problem?

frumentius:


No need to get your knickers in a twist. Denel merely has the contract to maintain ALL Hercs and ALL Airbus products on the African continent.

Would think you'd approve when militaries in Africa no longer have to fly their aircraft to Europe for maintenance. For Nigeria for example, Denel is recruiting people to do the job in-country. Better, no?

PICS: Denel job ads for NAF Herc C-130s and Puma helis, for contracts that started in June 2014.

P.S. Denel also landed the contract with Russian helis. And yes, African militaries will be saving money by no longer flying aircraft elsewhere. Denel technicians come and base in-country so skills can be developed in-country.

Why would this be a problem?

andrewza:



you want to buy 1 as in one helicopter. People got worried



Pebble bed reactor data was stolen and a short time later china had a reactor that was very similar

Henry240:


You're the one seeing a problem. I definitely am not seeing any. My comments are based on the information i had. We also don't fly our aircrafts out for PDM, they are all done in-country.

That's not the information currently available to us. Hence i'll have to wait for clarification from the NAF.


According to the Data i have, it doesn't correlate with what you've presented.


You don't suppose i'll just agree, do you?


....And here is the NAF on it's Helicopter Maintenance facility in Minna, Niger state.

https://www.naij.com/693182-nigerian-air-force-builds-helicopter-hangar-minna.html


And here is a joint report talking about both the C-130 and Helicopter maintenance.

He said the helicopter PDM will take care of servicing all
helicopters of the NAF instead of flying them abroad for
maintenance or bringing in expatriates to fix them, as was
obtainable in the past.

www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2016/08/31/nigerian-air-force-establishes-first-indigenous-helicopter-maintenance-centre/

chinese8107:


Yes,some "sub-standard" knock-offs,is not as good as the original,but far less expensive price. China made knock-offs weapons because of being embargo by US and EU for decades.

China has little to no arms deal with SA. The only deal I know is CS/VP3 is bought TOT from SA.
So you mean steal what technology?

South Africa follow the USA and EU 's embargo agaist China.No supprise on the black list.

patches689:


Well

We know for a fact that you guys broke into Pelandaba Nuclear Research Facility (and shot a guard) in order to steal our research on Pebble-Bed Nuclear Reactors

patches689:


Well

We know for a fact that you guys broke into Pelandaba Nuclear Research Facility (and shot a guard) in order to steal our research on Pebble-Bed Nuclear Reactors

ssaengine:
1. South African A-Darter missile
2. Intial design of Chinese PL-10 missile

They initially thought they could steal a lot more info on A-Darter. So initially just went ahead with our design. And when the initial stolen info dried up, they were forced to use their own intellect and change their design.

P.S this is an unofficial story and may or may not be completely made up :-)

jakeporeshenko:
Senegalese trooos training, these guys seem properly kitted

Odunayaw:
young man!!..get the hell outta here

Henry240:
Fumentius


Nigerian Air Force maintenance facility in at the Air Mobility Command in Lagos carrying out a complete overhaul of NAF C-130 and G-222, both are visible in the hangar. The jobs are carried out by AESTL and BCGneeds.


C-130 913 delivered after over-haul, and 917 in the hangar. There's no evidence available to support your Denel claim. Until one is provided, it is not permissible.


Jakeporeshenko, do you notice that the C-130s in the background are wearing a new grey camouflage. Can you confirm this?

jakeporeshenko:
Senegalese trooos training, these guys seem properly kitted

frumentius:


Get out! With your credibility on the line, you are citing media reports over Denel job ads? And you're a banker?
This guy

Odunayaw:
No problem at all this is d first tym I am getting to know this

africaken254:
Kenya administration police patrolling Nairobi city using all-terrain vehicles (ATVs)

Tinfoil:


I give them 3 months for them to turn those helos to junk. The level of incompetence is legendary, Saudi army level.
It didn't take them long to turn this brand new beauty into this
http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/files/2016/04/POLICE-CHOPPER-NEW.jpg
http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/images/thursday/nylmx9nctyzq0wx57d18b750fe9d.jpg
Mi8
http://www.nation.co.ke/image/view/-/597234/highRes/77553/-/maxw/600/-/y7wqlaz/-/INX+PIX.jpg

Henry240:


That supposed contract with Denel does not exist.