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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:50am On Sep 20, 2016
frumentius:


So, dear Henry, unclench those butt cheeks. grin

I'm not disputing whether or not Denel is the MRO contractor in Africa. That truly is of no concern to me. I am basing my argument on the facts on the ground, and the available information to which i am privy to.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:06am On Sep 20, 2016
Henry240:


I'm not disputing whether or not Denel is the MRO contractor in Africa. That truly is of no concern to me. I am basing my argument on the facts on the ground, and the available information to which i am privy to.

So about what are you arguing? I would think we all here should applaud that an American company (Lockheed), European (Airbus Helicopters) and Russian (Russian Helicopters) have all entrusted the servicing and maintenance of all their civilian and military products on the African continent to an African company, Denel Aviation. And that company in turn, has decided to recruit so MRO work can be done at the operators' countries instead of bringing aircraft to South Africa. Unlike the past when all this work - and money - was undertaken outside our continent.

What about this clashes with or contrasts "the available information to which [you are] privy"?

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by andrewza: 10:19am On Sep 20, 2016
chinese8107:


I guess not that simple, they may want to by TOT but knowning this could be interupt by USA, instead they say buying 1.

China do have similar technology ,this concept was first created by german scientist in1950s.SA has the leading tech in this field.

How or whether the data was stolen by China.I don't know ,but I know the technology is still not mature in China.And SA closed the reactor aleady around 2010.


or you buy one to copy it and build cheap knock offs.


The data was stolen and then china started making great gains so it looks strange does it not

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 10:27am On Sep 20, 2016
tdayof:
This sound interesting. Any news link?

Al Jazeera leaks of South African intelligence documents.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 10:28am On Sep 20, 2016
chinese8107:


really? this is beyond ordinary people's imagination. Have you caught the criminals? What's the ending?
If this is real the Chinese really worthy hatred.I cannot make judgement based on my knownledge.because this type of news if appears in USA,most people have no reaction just like there are alien reports on their media. They take it for granted or ignore.unless CNN or Washington post,New Yourk Times ,or other open source main strain media comfims .

is this only insider knows or well known so that everybody in your country think Chinese are thief ? like what German people think about *** in 1930s?

Everyone knows

From iPhone to Humvee to the F35 and more

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by chinese8107: 11:02am On Sep 20, 2016
andrewza:



or you buy one to copy it and build cheap knock offs.


The data was stolen and then china started making great gains so it looks strange does it not

Even you know this scenario,sounds like every thing can be “buy one and copy.“ Then why still some people negotiate about TOT ?

Both side ensure the failed bid.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by andrewza: 11:19am On Sep 20, 2016
chinese8107:


Even you know this scenario,sounds like every thing can be “buy one and copy.“ Then why still some people negotiate about TOT ?

Both side ensure the failed bit.


Sorry but it not the china SOP. You well known for making illegal copies and stealing information. You cant be trusted
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by chinese8107: 11:28am On Sep 20, 2016
patches689:


Everyone knows

From iPhone to Humvee to the F35 and more


Some Western media obfuscate these words “copy ,reverse enginering, imitate.license built.“ to bash china.

IPhone parts is made by different countries and companies,but assembly in China a license built.Other brands other counties can design a similar phone but must not use Iphone parts.Many people say Korean Sumsung is an Iphone copy,but in fact they still have their own patents.

The Humvee case is a little bit imitation,in desigen and concept,or reverse enginering,but still different.

F-35 's case is merely“ borrowing the concept“,China got not even a piece of parts .
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:30am On Sep 20, 2016
Exercise Swift Eagle is a two-week bilateral military training exercise between KDF & Royal Jordanian Armed Forces.

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:34am On Sep 20, 2016
The CDF Gen Samson Mwathethe making his remarks during the official opening of Exercise Swift Eagle by Defence CS
i can see britain is continuing to loose its dominant influence even within the kenya military

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:39am On Sep 20, 2016
Defence CS Hon Amb Raychelle Omamo giving her speech when she launched Exercise Swift Eagle in Embakasi Garrison.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by chinese8107: 11:56am On Sep 20, 2016
andrewza:



Sorry but it not the china SOP. You well known for making illegal copies and stealing information. You cant be trusted

No supprise

The SA follows the western especially US media and policy.

But even US media is cautious fabricating some news.Anserwer me a simply question,do you think CNN is 100% truth,and can be trusted.

But if you want to talk about 'stealing information' , China may not be an expert,eveybody knows wikileaks and Edward Snowden's case.

USA Japan and some Western countries always bashing China and Russia on various issues,as if they are moral.But many contries still follow for various reasons.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by andrewza: 12:07pm On Sep 20, 2016
chinese8107:


No supprise

The SA follows the western especially US media and policy.

But even US media is cautious fabricating some news.Anserwer me a simply question,do you think CNN is 100% truth,and can be trusted.

USA Japan and some Western countries always bashing China and Russia on various issues,as if they are moral.But many contries still follow for various reasons.


I don't watch CNN the pebble bed reactor theft came to light from leaked intelligence documents and the rooivalk and A darta are from denel who wont work with china. Personaly I think the CCP is a corrupt cancer that needs to be wiped out. China builds ghost cities to inflate there GDP, murders prisoners locked up for the faith and harvest there organs, bulldozed a church with the priest in side. I will not post links, do your own research and funny you mention western media since china as in vest millions of USD to put there propergander in western media.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:28pm On Sep 20, 2016
Patches689, Andrewza, Chinese8107, you guys are posting off-topic. Stay on topic or take your discussion elsewhere

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:31pm On Sep 20, 2016
Nigerian Air Force Regiment

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by chinese8107: 12:33pm On Sep 20, 2016
andrewza:



I don't watch CNN the pebble bed reactor theft came to light from leaked intelligence documents and the rooivalk and A darta are from denel who wont work with china. Personaly I think the CCP is a corrupt cancer that needs to be wiped out. China builds ghost cities to inflate there GDP, murders prisoners locked up for the faith and harvest there organs, bulldozed a church with the priest in side. I will not post links, do your own research and funny you mention western media since china as in vest millions of USD to put there propergander in western media.

I am not a CCP propagandist,nor do I know your source of intelligence,I don't even have many motivation to plead .but your impresion about china based mainy on CNN sorts of media. Yes some of them is ture like infation, illeagl organ trade,but exaggerated...

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:42pm On Sep 20, 2016
chinese8107:

I am not a CCP propagandist.
This is not the right thread for this your discussion.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ssaengine: 12:44pm On Sep 20, 2016
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:48pm On Sep 20, 2016
There really is no comparison. If a proper free market existed, these expensive UK products would not be eating SA's lunch...

PIC 1: SuperCat Jackal (UK concept "inspired" by SA);

PIC 2 & 3: The original from OTT, the Hunter and based on that proven work-horse, the SAMIL 20;

PIC 4: The latest evolution from ICT, the REVA Scout, an improvement on the Hunter and capable of being up-armoured as per clients requirements.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:50pm On Sep 20, 2016
...and fin:

the SuperCat RDLV as opposed to the Gecko RDLV.

And of course not to be outdone, the Yanks are busy with an unmanned version:

PIC 1: the expensive SuperCat RDLV;

PIC 2: the very expensive US unmanned version:

PIC 3 & 4: the original Gecko in SA service.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:57pm On Sep 20, 2016
Henry240:
Patches689, Andrewza, Chinese8107, you guys are posting off-topic. Stay on topic or take your discussion elsewhere

Agreed. The China Stronk guy must go peddle his cheap inferior wares elsewhere wink

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by NighttWalker(m): 1:17pm On Sep 20, 2016
frumentius:
There really is no comparison. If a proper free market existed, these expensive UK products would not be eating SA's lunch...

PIC 1: SuperCat Jackal (UK concept "inspired" by SA);

PIC 2 & 3: The original from OTT, the Hunter and based on that proven work-horse, the SAMIL 20;

PIC 4: The latest evolution from ICT, the REVA Scout, an improvement on the Hunter and capable of being up-armoured as per clients requirements.
Fvcking love these reconnaissance vehicles, lightly armored but heavily armed, will take mobility over amour anytime any day.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:21pm On Sep 20, 2016
Proforce defense APC's spotted in Portharcout. I wonder who the customer is, probably NPF

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:25pm On Sep 20, 2016
frumentius:
There really is no comparison. If a proper free market existed, these expensive UK products would not be eating SA's lunch...

PIC 1: SuperCat Jackal (UK concept "inspired" by SA);

PIC 2 & 3: The original from OTT, the Hunter and based on that proven work-horse, the SAMIL 20;

PIC 4: The latest evolution from ICT, the REVA Scout, an improvement on the Hunter and capable of being up-armoured as per clients requirements.

.....And that rubbish Jackal cost 1.2 million a unit.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:26pm On Sep 20, 2016
jakeporeshenko:
Proforce defense APC's spotted in Portharcout. I wonder who the customer is, probably NPF

Wow.... This is very good news!
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:32pm On Sep 20, 2016
Members of Task Force Hurricane, 1st Battalion, 124th Infantry Regiment, are conducting unmanned aerial vehicle training with members of the Kenyan Defense Force Sept. 8-24, 2016, at a training center in Kenya.
KDF Military Intelligence Battalion members received basic training on assembly, disassembly, repair, and preventative maintenance for the AeroVironment RQ-11 Raven as those topics relate to basic mission planning and advanced flight plans.
The two-week training not only helped to continue fostering multinational relationships within the Horn of Africa, but it also gave the KDF additional knowledge and a new capability on the battlefield, said U.S. Army Sgt. 1st Class Charles Lewellen, 1/124th Inf. Rgt. and noncommissioned officer in charge of the Raven training.
“This (training) is going to help them survey the battlefield to be able to see what their obstacles are and what they can do through African Union Mission in Somalia in order to combat terrorism throughout the Horn of Africa,” said U.S. Army Staff Sgt. Charles Wirks, 1/124 Inf. Rgt. and Raven master trainer.
The class of approximately 40 KDF soldiers came with various levels of UAV experience, but they all valued the instructors’ knowledge and experience with the Raven to help them in future real world situations.
“Using the experience the trainers have passed to us as students, we look forward to getting as much (knowledge) as we can from them so that we can be more capable,” said KDF Cpl. Geoffrey, Military Intelligence Battalion. “The lessons gave us the experience to integrate into our standard operating procedures to become better prepared and better pilots.”
The course provided classroom lessons on basic care and assembly on the Raven, computer programs used in flight, how to tactfully employ it, and flying lessons. The students flew the Raven for daytime and nighttime practice as well.
“Our teams are trained to support the companies in combat. They provide reconnaissance and surveillance, so it’s good we have the platforms to be able to see (what is ahead),” said KDF Senior Sgt. Kasyoka. “We have that eye to see the other side and it’s good to provide that (imagery) to the commander to make a decisive action. This is why we feel it’s very important to have this training.”
At the end of the day, the training comes to show CJTF-HOA’s continuing commitment to support AMISOM troop contributing countries. The instructors were able to pass on their knowledge to the students, and in return the students kept the instructors on their toes with advanced technical questions during the classes, said Lewellen.
“The students have been very receptive and came wanting to learn more,” Wirks said. “During the training we get to see them face to face, see where their concerns are and they see how we operate with the systems. It’s great to have an open communication with them.”
As a troop contributing country to AMISOM, the KDF will now be able to take lessons learned from the Raven training and apply them in the defense force’s continued efforts to counter terrorism throughout the Horn of Africa, Lewellen said.
“The experience has been incredible and we realize there is so much (to learn) about the UAVs,” Kasyoka said. “The UAVs are the future, it’s the eye in the sky for the commander on the ground. It’s a good experience and fun too.”

1.U.S. Army Staff Sgt. Charles Wirks, 1st Battalion, 124th Infantry Regiment and Raven master trainer, and members of the Kenyan Defense Force Military Intelligence Battalion set up a computer system in preparation to fly the AeroVironment RQ-11 Raven, an unmanned aerial vehicle, Sept. 13, 2016, at a Kenyan training facility. U.S. Army Soldiers from the 1/124th Inf. Rgt., assigned to Combined Joint Task Force-Horn of Africa, provided basic training on assembly, disassembly, repair, and preventative maintenance in regard to basic mission planning and advanced flight plans for the Raven. (U.S. Air Force photo by Staff Sgt. Tiffany DeNault)
2.A Kenyan Defense Force Military Intelligence Battalion soldier takes notes during training on the AeroVironment RQ-11 Raven, an unmanned aerial vehicle, Sept. 13, 2016, at a Kenyan training facility. Members of the 1st Battalion, 124th Infantry Regiment, assigned to Combined Joint Task Force-Horn of Africa, provided the KDF training on the Raven for employment in future real world situations. (U.S. Air Force photo by Staff Sgt. Tiffany DeNault)
3.Kenya Defense Force Cpl Ezekiel, assigned to the KDF Military Intelligence Battalion, launches an AeroVironment RQ-11 Raven, an unmanned aerial vehicle, during training with U.S. Army Soldiers of the 1st Battalion, 124th Infantry Regiment, Sept. 13, 2016, at a Kenyan training facility. Assigned to Combined Joint Task Force-Horn of Africa, the 1/124th Inf. Rgt., provided basic training on assembly, disassembly, repair, and preventative maintenance in regard to basic mission planning and advanced flight plans for the Raven. (U.S. Air Force photo by Staff Sgt. Tiffany DeNault)
4.Members of the Kenyan Defense Force Military Intelligence Battalion set up the computer system and AeroVironment RQ-11 Raven, an unmanned aerial vehicle, for the flying lesson portion of training, Sept. 13, 2016, at a Kenyan training facility. Members of the 1st Battalion, 124th Infantry Regiment, assigned to Combined Joint Task Force-Horn of Africa, provided the KDF training on the Raven for employment in future real world situations. (U.S. Air Force photo by Staff Sgt. Tiffany DeNault)

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by chinese8107: 1:45pm On Sep 20, 2016
frumentius:


Agreed. The China Stronk guy must go peddle his cheap inferior wares elsewhere wink

China no stronk as USA. How comes China Stronk guy ? "cheap inferior wares" works sometimes at least.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:46pm On Sep 20, 2016
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U.S. Army Staff Sgt. Charles Wirks, 1st Battalion, 124th Infantry Regiment and Raven master trainer, and members of the Kenyan Defense Force Military Intelligence Battalion, use an imagery system to fly the AeroVironment RQ-11 Raven, an unmanned aerial vehicle, Sept. 13, 2016, at a Kenyan training facility. U.S. Army Soldiers from the 1/124th Inf. Rgt., assigned to Combined Joint Task Force-Horn of Africa, provided basic training on assembly, disassembly, repair, and preventative maintenance in regard to basic mission planning and advanced flight plans for the Raven. (U.S. Air Force photo by Staff Sgt. Tiffany DeNault)

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U.S. Army Staff Sgt. Charles Wirks, 1st Battalion, 124th Infantry Regiment and Raven master trainer, teaches members of the Kenyan Defense Force Military Intelligence Battalion how to tactfully use the AeroVironment RQ-11 Raven, an unmanned aerial vehicle, Sept. 13, 2016, at a Kenyan training facility. The KDF soldiers received basic training on assembly, disassembly, repair, and preventative maintenance in regard to basic mission planning and advanced flight plans for the Raven. (U.S. Air Force photo by Staff Sgt. Tiffany DeNault)

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U.S. Army Soldiers of the 1st Battalion, 124th Infantry Regiment assigned to Combined Joint Task Force-Horn of Africa, and the Kenyan Defense Force Military Intelligence Battalion, set up a computer system in preparation to fly the AeroVironment RQ-11 Raven, an unmanned aerial vehicle, Sept. 13, 2016, at a Kenyan training facility. The 1/124th Inf. Rgt. Soldiers provided basic training on assembly, disassembly, repair, and preventative maintenance in regard to basic mission planning and advanced flight plans for the Raven. (U.S. Air Force photo by Staff Sgt. Tiffany DeNault)

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U.S. Army Sgt. 1st Class Charles Lewellen, 1st Battalion, 124th Infantry Regiment and noncommissioned officer in charge of training, shows how to assemble the AeroVironment RQ-11 Raven, an unmanned aerial vehicle, to members of the Kenyan Defense Force, Sept. 13, 2016, at a Kenyan training facility. The 1/124th Inf. Rgt. provided basic training on assembly, disassembly, repair, and preventative maintenance in regard to basic mission planning and advanced flight plans for the Raven to members of the KDF Military Intelligence Battalion. (U.S. Air Force photo by Staff Sgt. Tiffany DeNault)

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Tinfoil: 1:49pm On Sep 20, 2016
denisfidha:


kenya police airwing

7 Cessna aircraft, the latest (2011) being a
Cessna 208 Caravan light aircraft (United States)

3 Mil Mi-17 helicopters (Russia)

1 MBB Bo 105 air ambulance helicopter (Germany)
3 Bell 206 (United States)

most of these have passed their recommended lifespan, but still airworthy

No few of those airworthy. The MBB has been down for years.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:49pm On Sep 20, 2016
Members of the 1st Battalion, 124th Infantry Regiment, assigned to Combined Joint Task Force-Horn of Africa, and Kenyan Defense Force Military Intelligence Battalion soldiers prepare to fly an AeroVironment RQ-11 Raven, an unmanned aerial vehicle, Sept. 13, 2016, at a Kenyan training facility. The course provided classroom lessons on basic care and assembly on the Raven, computer programs used in flight, and how to tactfully employ it for day and nighttime missions. (U.S. Air Force photo by Staff Sgt. Tiffany DeNault)

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:53pm On Sep 20, 2016
chkil:
mi 24 MKIII super hind algerian army

upgraded with south african ATE to superhind mkIII and now they are upgraded in ukraine with Aviakon

Aviakon was an interim solution when ATE was in business rescue. Aviakon upgraded the sensor suite for Algeria, as well as upgrading the Azeri Hinds to what is now unofficially known as SuperHind MK IV. Since then, Paramount bought ATE and SuperHind MK V has been brought on stream. I'm told by my mates at Paramount that SuperHind MK V takes it beyond the MI-35M and is currently what Algeria possesses, on par with Rooivalk.

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