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Ooni:
you have not countered me. Kwara south are similar to us yoruba but are not yorubas. Ilorin is a fulani emirate and i now way yorubaland. Kwara north is hausa and nupe. Saraki is a fulani. I am not one of those who claim what is not our own. Op might be correct. Please let us be serious.

Ooni:
that is the problem Ibos have. They will leave their PH and come and say they built Abuja. That notwithstanding, i must admit that Lagos is an awori and egun city, egun are not yorubas, awori people consistly mostly of settlers who intermarried with yorubas from ogun. They were later colonized by benin. Hence lagos names have idus eg idumota, idumagbo etc even oshodi and eko itself are edo names and not our yoruba names. That is also why indigenous lagosians have foreign surnames eg williams, bode george, desmond elliot, obafemi martins etc there is no yoruba name for lagos which shows that op may actually be correct about his claim that we yorubas are not indigenous to lagos. Pls we must learn to say the truth at all times despite the intimidation.

rlauncher:
Saraki is not a Fulani. The father of the late Dr Olusola Saraki, father of Bukola Saraki who is the current senate president was from Ogbomosho in Oyo state.He married a Fulani woman and they have lived in Ilorin all their lives.

You don't know anything about Kwara state. If you have read my previous response, you would have found answers to your foolish question.

By the way , you have not told me what what you' be been smoking that is turning your head upsidedown.

Hhundredhundred:
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You are the most shameless and pathetic person on this forum. A coward like ojukwu of cursed memory, you are a sissy that have no mind of his own. You are better in the grave than bringing shame and ridicule to your Iboe tribe. Are you that ashamed of your tribe that you had to waste your time to register more than 30 monikers just to impersonate the Yoruba you hate so much.

You hate Yoruba so much and wish them evil but still impersonating them cos you are ashamed of your Ibo tribe. Is that not madness? You all landgrabbers and homeless people of the sad beast have been crying and wallowing in pains cos Wike told you the truth and remove your shameless as.s from Rivers website, you have been splashing spits as if Wike is a Yoruba. Face Wike and leave us alone, we are not responsible for your being 10th class citizen of Nigeria.

No sane Yoruba will argue with you shameless landgrabbers over Lagos when we know the reality on ground, keep posting crap from your village in Enugu where Fulani herdsmen control your movement and destiny. Shameless people.

rlauncher:
Saraki is not a Fulani. The father of the late Dr Olusola Saraki, father of Bukola Saraki who is the current senate president was from Ogbomosho in Oyo state.He married a Fulani woman and they have lived in Ilorin all their lives.

You don't know anything about Kwara state. If you have read my previous response, you would have found answers to your foolish question.

By the way , you have not told me what what you' be been smoking that is turning your head upsidedown.

Ooni:
that is the problem Ibos have. They will leave their PH and come and say they built Abuja. That notwithstanding, i must admit that Lagos is an awori and egun city, egun are not yorubas, awori people consistly mostly of settlers who intermarried with yorubas from ogun. They were later colonized by benin. Hence lagos names have idus eg idumota, idumagbo etc even oshodi and eko itself are edo names and not our yoruba names. That is also why indigenous lagosians have foreign surnames eg williams, bode george, desmond elliot, obafemi martins etc there is no yoruba name for lagos which shows that op may actually be correct about his claim that we yorubas are not indigenous to lagos. Pls we must learn to say the truth at all times despite the intimidation.

BENIN ROOT OF ONITSHA
  Many of our traditional titles are the same with the Edos/Binis: Onicha titles like “Iyasele” is “Iyasere” in Bini; “Ogene Onira” is “Oliha” in Benin; “Odu Osodi” is “Osodin” in Benin; “Omodi Daike” in Onitsha is “Edaiken” in Benin; “Esagba” in Onitsha is “Esogban” in Benin; the “Isama” titles are the same in both towns amongst many others. The “Obi” of modern Onitsha today is the continuation of the ancient Pharonic dynasty of ancient Kemet or Egypt. Onitsha must retrace the history of her monarchs from his imperial Majesty Obi Achebe back to the Ogiso Kings of Igodomigodo in Edo, then to Egypt; to Pharoah Tutankhamon, Pharoah Amenemhet, Pharoah Amenemes, Pharoah Amenkhuti Ra; Pharoah Khafara, and back to the first dynasty in Egypt. Enough of this tracing of our kingship to just Obi Oreze or his father Ohime(corrupted to “Chima”) by his later descendants. Onicha people came from Benin or Edo land, they were also in Igbo land. I suspect that the Priests of Nri were distantly connected, that is why till date an Nri King upon consecration must bring certain sacrifial items to the Obi of Onicha and must sleep over in Onicha before assuming the Nri throne. Why would the very traditional Nri people who were(and still are) known all over the Igbo land as a holy people and the spiritual custodian of all Igbo lands, accord these rights to Onicha Kings? All these indicate that Onicha and many other tribes had had prior interactions and established certain traditional precedence which had been ongoing before the Onicha town was founded just around 700 hundred years ago. No Nri man would just concede to subject his divine King to some unknown immigrants who just crossed over from the Niger River, if that were to be the case.

authoritatively portray the following facts that the Ikelike people from the Bini kingdom were the first to settle in Ogwashi-Uku (see Ben Nwabua, Ogwash-uku Kingdom, 1000 Years of Traditional Democracy and Cultural Life, 950-1914). Both traditional and empirical sources gives credence that Ikelike people were the first set of immigrants to settle in the present Ogwashi-Uku as against the notion that Adaigbo who purportedly came from Nri in present Anambra State today is the founder of Ogwashi-Uku. So far, no counter claim has been made on this. According to Ogwashi-Uku intelligence report by Mr. J.E Hull, the then Assistant District Officer dated on the 9th of April 1936, the Ikelike people from all indications migrated from Benin to settle where they are found themselves today, because of a reign of wanton persecution of subjects by the then Benin Monarch, Oba Eweka 11. The story further goes that at the head was Odigie Ikelike with his younger brother Ado who later founded Adonta, a relatively small village close to Azungwu in Ogwashi-uku today.

The Ikelike migrants were said to be politically averse and could not, therefore evolve an orderly method of governance even though there were small in number. Jull`s report further went on to point out that because of such indisposition towards an effective means of governing themselves, it cost them the political leadership they were first to settle in. Rather, Adaigbo, the prince from Nri later came, controlled the situation and imposed leadership based on Igbo customs and tradition on them and what later became Ogwshi-Uku kingdom. Adaigbo’s imposed of republican system, however, later gave way to the hereditary system of the Benins . BENIN EMIGRATION OR EXODUS: The migration of Onicha people from Benin happened in phases over many years and did not happen once. The Ohime/Obi Ezechima’s exodus was one of the last ones that occurred but it should be noted that not all Onicha people left with Obi Eze Chima or Ohime. Some stayed back and are still in Benin today. Some took a different migrationary route towards Ile Ife and Ado Ekiti. Some went to establish Ondo. Some made a northern migrational journey towards the north to establish the Igala Kingdom.The Attah of Igala and a substantial part of the Igala kingdom were Onicha people who immigrated into Igala from Benin. The first Attah of Igala was a Prince of the Edo/Benin Kingdom. Now it can be understood why the Onicha people were ferried across the Niger and greatly assisted by their Igala kinsmen when they reached the banks of the Niger river. It can also be understood why Onicha people easily incorporated many Igala rituals and traditions into their own concepts. They were of the same roots but different branches. Onicha people left Benin to establish Igala; that was the secret behind the easy adoption of and exchange of different tenets amongst Onicha and Igala people. Some Onicha people, before Eze Chima’s exodus, had left Benin to establish other towns like Issele Ukwu, Ebu, Kwale, Ezzi, Onicha-Ukwu, Okpanam, Asaba(originally called “Araba”) and some other towns of Benin orientation that had been established before the Ezechima’s exodus from Benin.. It was these settlements that habored Obi Ohime/Ezechima when he and his family fled from Benin. The migration from Benin to Onicha Mmili took many years, towns of Onicha-Olona and Onicha-Ugbo were established by Onicha people who felt reluctant to continue and follow Obi Ohime to Onicha-mmili. ESTABLISHMENT OF ONICHA-MMILI AND HER RULING DYNASTY: Obi Ohime or Eze Chima, having been told that he could not enter Onicha, stayed for a long time in Obio with his family and relatives before he died. After he died, his relatives decided to continue with their migration to establish Onicha. The qualification for whom shall be crowned king was conditioned upon who shall sound ancient rhythms on a wooden Ufie. Traditionally, Ufie cannot be owned or be sounded/beaten by a person whose father is still alive. The contestants to the throne having just lost their father, had no ufie, however, Oreze Obi, had carved one which he hid under the boat and sounded first upon getting to Onicha whilst his siblings were busy looking for the appropriate wood to cut for the Ufie.

Ooni:
read the interview where olusola saraki admitted he was a fulani from mali
https://www.nairaland.com/311148/saraki-fulani-mali

Twistaray:
You know, you are right.
Just like this, below is true. Information Is power Oni,dont you agree?

Thursday, June 9, 2016
GREAT BENIN ORIGIN OF ONITSHA




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Babyfactory1:
Benin are the owners of Onitsha. Iboes migrated from Afganistan. Lol

Hhundredhundred:
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You are the most shameless and pathetic person on this forum. A coward like ojukwu of cursed memory, you are a sissy that have no mind of his own. You are better in the grave than bringing shame and ridicule to your Iboe tribe. Are you that ashamed of your tribe that you had to waste your time to register more than 30 monikers just to impersonate the Yoruba you hate so much.

You hate Yoruba so much and wish them evil but still impersonating them cos you are ashamed of your Ibo tribe. Is that not madness? You all landgrabbers and homeless people of the sad beast have been crying and wallowing in pains cos Wike told you the truth and remove your shameless as.s from Rivers website, you have been splashing spits as if Wike is a Yoruba. Face Wike and leave us alone, we are not responsible for your being 10th class citizen of Nigeria.

No sane Yoruba will argue with you shameless landgrabbers over Lagos when we know the reality on ground, keep posting crap from your village in Enugu where Fulani herdsmen control your movement and destiny. Shameless people.

Babyfactory1:
Ojukwu is from North East. Anambra is Igala land, Imo people are not Ibo. Enugu and Ebonyi is Fulani land. Abia people are Osu.

Ooni:
ogbeni omidina, is that you? Those ipob really finished you. Anyway the problem with us is that we are too emotional. We always attribute our failures to Ibos. Let us stop being too emotional and face logic. Op is correct. if you have counter opinion back it with facts instead of cursing ibos and faking monikers on Ibos threads.

Ooni:
ogbeni omidina, is that you? Those ipob really finished you. Anyway the problem with us is that we are too emotional. We always attribute our failures to Ibos. Let us stop being too emotional and face logic. Op is correct. if you have counter opinion back it with facts instead of cursing ibos and faking monikers on Ibos threads.

Ooni:
go to Ibo thread and tell them. This is our own yoruba thread.

Twistaray:
It's a known fact, honestly.

So, I do agree with oni our brother

Hhundredhundred:
What is omidina and ipob? Your being jobless is making you get angry and more frustrated. You Ibos have been the one that blame Yoruba all day for your misfortune. You even blame Tinubu for the rot in your own state, Abia. Why do you keep disgracing your father online? We saw your pictures here and you look sad and hungry, face those tormenting your soul and leave Yoruba alone.

Wike told you landgrabbers the truth and you have been blaming Yoruba. Is this a generational curse on you? I pity your old parents and hope they find a lasting solution to your predicaments.

Babyfactory1:
Benin are owners of Onitsha. Your own state Abia are all Osu and you are also Osu. Ibos migrated from Afganistan. Facts from wikipedia.

Twistaray:
This should explain better, here:

Ooni:
go to Ibo thread and tell them. This is our own yoruba thread.

Babyfactory1:
We love baby factory in Abia state cos we are Osu Ibo.

Twistaray:


Abeg, make una forgive oni my buuloda already.
Abeg he don repent already..

E don do

Babyfactory1:
We need to know the real and origin of Ibos. Ooni should come tell us.

Babyfactory1:
We need to know the real and origin of Ibos. Ooni should come tell us.

Ooni:
such a person must accept that he is a yoruba like you and I

dreamworld:
You yoro-uba people should stop forcing other people to be identified as yoruba, they are not yorubas
Lagos state, kwara and kogi doesnt have indiginous yoruba people in it, period

Ooni:
Just because i agree with op's submission with fact that there are no indigenous yorubas in lagos, i am now abused and some of my fellow yorubas are calling me Ibo. We need to learn to be civil.

Twistaray:
You ibo should do the same

I'e anambra isn't iboland. It belong to Edo people abegggg make una pack una load and leave their land asap

Nalikedis:
Ode Oshi... So Erinle, Offa etc are not part of Kwara state.

dreamworld:
Lay ur complains to ur stupidity, yes we are binis, go back to oshogbo and meet ur brothers