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raphieMontella:
since you want to feign ignorance......i'd do well in having fun
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_as_fact_and_theory#Fact

When we say a thing is a fact, then, we only mean that its probability is an extremely high one: so high that we are not bothered by doubt about it and are ready to act accordingly. Now in this use of the term fact, the only proper one, evolution is a fact.

winner01:
Atheists are looking for relevance with science, agnostics and religions that profess no God. You should look up the word atheism and religion and then merge them together and see how much sense you make.

Just be a freethinker. I know you crave free thinking, but just try.

DoctorAlien:
Look at what a "scientist", Hermann Joseph Muller said



Since when did science begin to accept things as fact based on probabilities? The bigotry and myopic reasoning displayed in this quote from a "scientist" is startling.

Lennycool:
You say you are a scientist but you continue to show your ignorance. In science nothing is ever 100% certain, and I mean nothing. You might ask will the sun rise tomorrow and scientists will only give you a 99.9% chance of it rising. Because anything can happen. A black hole might just pop out of nowhere and consume the sun. So there's always a chance of the impossible happening. So Hermann Joseph is correct and you are simply ignorant. Go and sleep, maybe sleep depravation is what is causing this jargon you keep presenting.

felixomor:
If u really read that article. U wont provide it as evidence..
because the article even clearly highlights the controversy surrounding the claim of it as "fact". And that the "fact" is the one of onserved minor changes, not the one of man evolving from anything..

But I wont argue with u further, because I know ur mind already.

raphieMontella:
why you de lie like this?

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btw....i still say what i say...
Evo' is a fact...darwinism is a theory...theories can be subject to reformations etc....
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no you dont!
You asked for a reference..
I clearly embedded heading ''fact'' into the url...so as to take you to where i want you to go..
My reference is The National Academy Of Sciences,US ...which stated there:evolution is a fact...so i believe i did what you asked...
Btw why are you weaseling out?
Boomeranged by your own ideas?

felixomor:
because u even argue in the face of counter evidence that is why i wont drag it with u.

winner01:
Story!

There is no such thing as atheist religions or irreligious atheist. Be a free thinker for once and stop listening to deluded individuals.

Over 85% of avowed atheists who have found their way to power have tried all in their power to eradicate religion, we all know they make the catholic look like a learner when we compare the number of deaths.

This is funny because there are so many atheist politicians in Britain, China, Australia, Denmark, etc. And I don't see people killing religious people there today. Or by most do u mean only Stalin

I dont care on what personal convictions they killed millions of souls. Im certain you all have one thing in common. HATE.
Those who dont have this live their lives as though they really lack a belief.

This is hilarious. I have hate most of my best friends are christinas, I even have a christian as a mentor. So now u know why am laughing at this part. Lol

Im sure if you got to power today with this delusion, you'll force feed people your version of hopelessness the way you do here on a daily basis. And then ifenes and co will reject you

You have zero idea of who I am. So how do u know this Now u know why I don't take you serious.

ValentineMary:

Lol maybe u should study Taoism, buddhism or confucianism first before u make that conclusion

ValentineMary:
This is funny because there are so many atheist politicians in Britain, China, Australia, Denmark, etc. And I don't see people killing religious people there today. Or by most do u mean only Stalin

ValentineMary:
This is hilarious. I have hate most of my best friends are christinas, I even have a christian as a mentor. So now u know why am laughing at this part. Lol

ValentineMary:
You have zero idea of who I am. So how do u know this Now u know why I don't take you serious.

plaetton:
I once opened a thread asking why animals do not worship God.

I was actually attacked and mock for asking such kindergarten question.

Like this OP has written, without man , there are no gods.

Man is the creator of god.

Animals do not have an after death phobia.

Animals do not need insurance policies Redeemable after death.

Animals don't have a desire to live forever.

winner01:
I understand you people are terribly outnumbered hence the need to invite agnostics and naturalistic religions to your tent.
I thought atheism did not mandate religious rituals.
lol
Confusion.

Is this not funny because those religions are older than christianity and Islam. But many theist are ignorant so I don't expect u to know.

Lol. You wonder why people will rather vote for a theist than an atheist?
Its funny you wish to deny the facts, history will always stand in your face. I referred to atheist leaders who have existed not mere politicians.
Joseph stalin is one leader out of many, I gave examples here.

Of course, you may be surrounded by christians. Im quite sure that you dare not try this obsession with a "non-existent" God around them. So they dont wonder what has come over their friend.
Do you try to rid your friends and mentor of their delusions like you cowardly do here?
I guess not.
In real life, no one cares about your lack of whatever. lol....

I know because of the way you refer to religion and religious individuals even when you're still a nobody.
If you had your way, religion would be eradicated. Your brothers here are of the same opinion.
And to acheive that, it would take a bloodbath.

Lennycool:
The fact is even as controversial and disputed as the evolution theory is, it still a better alternative than believing a book thousands of years old, written by simple minded humans.

DeepSight:
Small Question:

How exactly do you know this? How exactly do you know that Animals do not worship God?

~ Have you spoken with any animal who let you into this secret?

~ If Animals were to worship God, would you recognize their mode of doing so, when they do it?

~ Would you expect to see them in prayerful dispositions or setting up churches or temples or mosques?



As well you should.



Just as surely as without man, who would conceive of the bbig bbang? Surely, without man, it never occurred, no?



Just as Isaac Newton invented gravity, no?



Again, how exactly do you know this? What village meeting of Animals did you attend, where animal professors explained this to you?

Because, what is obvious is that they exhibit a fear of death and do everything possible to avoid dying.

Further - many animals also mourn their dead, and exhibit grief and befuddlement at the phenomenon of losing a family member. Why do you think this is so? Have you ever been a bereavement counselor to any animal whereof such an animal patient of yours informed you that it had no phobia about the after life?



Who told you this? Why do you think animals show extreme concern about their next generation - going so far as to murder the young of possible competing genes in some cases (such as lions). Behavior which may very well suggest clear interest in the status of the gene pool, not just while they are alive but after they are dead?



Then why do they avoid death?

My friend, it seems to me you have made gross assumptions here - very akin to the type of assumptions you accuse theists of making!

plaetton:
My dear friend,
You wasted quite a lot of space here without making a tangible point.

Rather than merely asking me ' how do you know that' , it would have made much sense for you to have made a case for the opposite .

For centuries, we have been studying and observing animal behaviors and behavior patterns.
In fact , there are academic and professional disciplines completely devoted to the study of animal behavior.
In case this is news to you, I suggest you visit your nearest library, or better still, even a cattle rearer or chicken farmer.
Daahhhh!!

Animals do not show any behavior patterns that remotely resemble worship or acknowledgement of deities.
That's a fact.

They also do not show anxieties about an after life, talkless of buying insurance policies for such, as you do.
That's another fact.

Now, if you think otherwise, kindly present your facts , and stop weaving these tangled noodles of words you're very fond of.

plaetton:
My dear friend,
You wasted quite a lot of space here without making a tangible point.

Rather than merely asking me ' how do you know that' , it would have made much sense for you to have made a case for the opposite .

For centuries, we have been studying and observing animal behaviors and behavior patterns.
In fact , there are academic and professional disciplines completely devoted to the study of animal behavior.
In case this is news to you, I suggest you visit your nearest library, or better still, even a cattle rearer or chicken farmer.
Daahhhh!!

Animals do not show any behavior patterns that remotely resemble worship or acknowledgement of deities.
That's a fact.

They also do not show anxieties about an after life, talkless of buying insurance policies for such, as you do.
That's another fact.

Now, if you think otherwise, kindly present your facts , and stop weaving these tangled noodles of words you're very fond of.

DeepSight:
Many times, to be honest with you, I am sincerely forced to believe that you either do not read what is written, or you gloss over it, or you simply super-impose your own previously held notions onto it. I actually gave you point to think on, regarding what you said - and I referred to specific patterns of animal behavior to rebut what you said.

DeepSight:
Whilst I will respond again to this post - please note that your reference to the scientific study of animal behavior (which I am a great fan of) does not in anyway support your points. If anything, much study into animal behavior raises questions the answers to which may likely hold you against your assumptions.

plaetton:
Secondly, how does the fact that all animals ensure the survival of their genes through mating and protection of their offspring indicate to you that each individual animal looks forward to eternal life in the same way that you do?

DoctorAlien:
Do you mean anyone who doesn't have a desire to live forever is an animal?

DeepSight:
Can you see the way you read and the sorts of leaps of assumptions you make?

Where did I say the bold and particularly how did I suggest the bold in red?

plaetton:
And was that the conclusion you reached after reading my post ?

plaetton:
@Depardo.

I cannot rebut your points one by one in a because I am using my smart phone.

You stated or insinuated that I neither speak nor understand animal language, therefore, I should not able to say what they do or are capable of doing.

My response to that is simple.

The much that we know about animal behavior, how did we get to know ?
Did we have to have town hall meetings with them in Order to be able to catalogue( in most cases with mathematical precision) their behavioral patterns?

By your twisted logic, every thing we know about animals behavior Should be null and void simply because we have never had a successful Town Hall meetings with animals.
Right Sir Deepsight, mighty sire of the woven word ?

plaetton:
There are no controversies and disputes about the theory of evolution.

DeepSight:
This is a straightforward lie.

plaetton:
Huh?

Them are fighting words, Depardo.

DeepSight:
Oh no not at all sire: nevertheless it is [color=#990000][/color][U]a straight lie[/u] to say that "there are no controversies and no disputes about the Theory of Evolution," - your words exactly.

Is it not?

plaetton:
Well then, it's now incumbent upon you to do the needy.
We are all ears/ eyes.

DeepSight:
You must regard me as the Town Jester.