TheArchangel:
Funny.
I also do not understand Anam, Otuocha, Ogbaru, Orumba, Anyamelum and Ihiala dialects. Mind you that these dialects are found in my state of Anambra talk more of Ngwa, Mbaise and the rest of them. Nobody is forcing you to be Igbo but the already tested evidence of Igbo language and cultural homogeneity should not be toyed with in a quest to determine who you really are.

I think it's time you listen and try to understand the explanations from the scholars on this thread why it is so.

FYI, I am not Igbo but Idemili.

Me too. I am not Igbo but Enugwu-ukwu.

SlayerSupreme:


Leave those dimwits. I once met one.A lady. She would speak at length with her mum in the village over the phone and I would understand every single thing she said. The first time I translated all she said,she was dumbstruck cause she keeps talking crap about how she's speaking "Ukwuani" and not "Igbo". Brain dead bunch.

Wait oo, why are you the only one here using harsh words on people? Are you the only Igbo man in the world? Do you think hatred can ever win the hearts of people to a cause or belief?
Stop insulting Anioma people pls. There are many things we don't like about Igbos but we don't go around calling them names. I bet you that you don't have the monopoly of insults. Continue insulting Aniomas and you and i will go down here. Mtchww

Some of you SE are very gullible.

Ridiculously GULLIBLE!!!!

Continue dancing to this people divide and rule tactics. I'm done trying to.get you Niggas to understand

As for you genieluv..MAY GOD BLAST THAT YOUR HEAD for pretending to be anioma. Useless things..both you and chukzyblingz.

Ngozi123:


No offence, but you sound like an ethnic bigot. As for the bolded, please explain to me how on earth you can distinguish between an Nsukka or Onitsha person and other Igbo speaking peoples, using the criteria above? When you say Onitsha, I'll assume that you're talking about my area (Ogbaru) as well, so I will politely ask you to speak for yourself when you make such claims. Btw, if you're really from Aniocha then you are Igbo. When you make such baseless claims, you bring my own heritage into disrepute, so you can see why I might be a bit bothered by this. Educate yourself more on your people's history before making such unfounded claims.

Well, i did not say i hate Imo, Abia or Anambra peeps, just that i have observed that they are somehow different from Onitsha n Nsukka peeps, not all but most.
Most Nsukka and Onitsha peeps i have met are quite friendly, they are detribalized, warm, somehow refined and calmer, they lack this extreme igbotic character which many core Imo and Anambra people posses. I am not claiming to be a final authority on anything, am just saying what i have observed personally.

There was no time anywhere when Anochia people came out to tell the world that they are Igbos. Anioma is the only identity which i know my people to celebrate. My people do not greet IGBO KWENU and neither do we adress ourselves as Igbo people. Our elders adress themselves as ENUANI people and that is what i know.

bigfrancis21:


To me I see those bini words as linguistic borrowings Ika imported from bini by virtue of their close proximity to bini land. When two different speaking tribes live side by side, there tends to be aan exchange of words between both tribes. Take the Ohafia people of Abia state who have the Annangs/Ibibios as neighbours. Due to centuries of cohabitation side by side, Ohafia Igbo is laced with several Ibibio words here and there and it's not uncommon to find some of them bearing Ibibio names such as 'Bassey'. Some Ohafia people could speak Ibibio and on the Ibibio side, it is the same thing too. The Ohafias even dress like the Ibibios, as in tie wrappers and wear the notorious hats Niger deltans are known to wear however they do not say they are not Igbos. Realize that they may have borrowed or been influenced by Ibibio culture due to living next to them, however their original stock is Igbo and the Ibibio influence does not distort their identity.

Not just the Ibibios. Igbos living at the boundaries of Igboland with other tribes tend to borrow one or two influences from these other tribes. The Nsukka people, for example, share boundaries with the Igalas and have borrowed Igala words such as 'attama', which means 'chief priest' and you can find one or two families in Nsukka land with Igala and Idoma surnames but they are Nsukka Igbos today, Ebonyi state Igbos at the boundaries too are influenced a little by their Idoma neighbours. This is no different for the Ika Igbos who have been influenced by Bini culture due to close cohabitation over the decades. To me, Ika is just an Igbo dialect influenced by bini culture and language. I've listened to several Ika songs and most of the singers call God 'chukwu' or 'chi' and rarely 'oselobue'. I've also seen some Ika movies and I could understand what was being said. Surprisingly, Ika Igbo is very similar to Owerri Igbo. Thus, if the Ikas are replacing hundreds of formerly adopted bini words with Igbo words instead, they are only gradually returning back to their original identity before the binis heavily influenced them.

I noticed that many denying people have barely been to the interior and corners of Igboland to notice the massive linguistic diversity Igboland has. They tend to lump all SE Igbos, with over 700 dialects, as one and then compare their clan to this cornucopia of Igbos they have created, which is poor comparison.

If you listen to Ika movies and musics and hear them use chukwu and chi instead of Osolobue and ehi, it's because they're not speaking the real Ika. The real Ika words have deep root in Ika cultures but the Igbo ones don't. Ika is neither Igbo nor Bini but majority of Ika kingdoms were founded by people from Bini/Ishan area.

genieluv:



Well, i did not say i hate Imo, Abia or Anambra peeps, just that i have observed that they are somehow different from Onitsha n Nsukka peeps, not all but most.
Most Nsukka and Onitsha peeps i have met are quite friendly, they are detribalized, warm, somehow refined and calmer, they lack this extreme igbotic character which many core Imo and Anambra people posses. I am not claiming to be a final authority on anything, am just saying what i have observed personally.

There was no time anywhere when Anochia people came out to tell the world that they are Igbos. Anioma is the only identity which i know my people to celebrate. My people do not greet IGBO KWENU and neither do we adress ourselves as Igbo people. Our elders adress themselves as ENUANI people and that is what i know.

Can you please in your worthless ass Stop pretending go be anioma. You sick f2k. We have NOTHING in common with you.

You are neither any part of Anioma, aniocha or Enuani.

Next time you going to pretend to be something you are not in effort to show your tribalistic ass, Do me a favour and NEVER attach to Anioma EVER again especially since you already exposed your real heritage you miserable Bleep.

#spits in your face

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genieluv:


Whatever. Everybody must not worship money in order to make it in life. Anioma people have produced Billionaires in Nigeria. The 2 richest people from the south-south are our sons.
In igbo land, once someone makes money, he is given all manners of chieftancy titles without people caring where the man makes his money from.
I never said that there were no positives about igbos, there are, but the negatives are more if you ask me and we were talking about the differences between igbos and Aniomas, so i listed them for you.

I have discovered that you are one of these IPOB members, i hate your likes because of the terrible attitudes you guys posses. Good riddance!

[/s]
Your Igbo hate has been registered. We have seen and heard you. Run along now.

genieluv:



Well, i did not say i hate Imo, Abia or Anambra peeps, just that i have observed that they are somehow different from Onitsha n Nsukka peeps, not all but most.
Most Nsukka and Onitsha peeps i have met are quite friendly, they are detribalized, warm, somehow refined and calmer, they lack this extreme igbotic character which many core Imo and Anambra people posses. I am not claiming to be a final authority on anything, am just saying what i have observed personally.

There was no time anywhere when Anochia people came out to tell the world that they are Igbos. Anioma is the only identity which i know my people to celebrate. My people do not greet IGBO KWENU and neither do we adress ourselves as Igbo people. Our elders adress themselves as ENUANI people and that is what i know.

Just to clarify, are you talking about Aniocha people or Anochia people? I don't know anything about the latter .

Ngozi123:


Just to clarify, are you talking about Aniocha people or Anochia people? I don't know anything about the latter .

SHE'S not Aniocha. She is from Benue state.
What I don't understand is the level of disgust people have to get just to showcase their bigotry.

If you are a bigot to igbo while attach to a community to showcase your bigotry. Honestly, I pray I pity that bitch cause I would slap her.

I'm getting very irritated with northernets, Benin and yoruba pretending to be anioma on this forum to cause division within a community. This is one of the main reason I cannot stand this miserable nation.

genieluv, so you are actually from Benue state but you've been parading yourself here since as an Anioma?

ikechu1:
Some of you SE are very gullible.

Ridiculously GULLIBLE!!!!

Continue dancing to this people divide and rule tactics. I'm done trying to.get you Niggas to understand

As for you genieluv..MAY GOD BLAST THAT YOUR HEAD for pretending to be anioma. Useless things..both you and chukzyblingz.

Yes Ikechu or whatever you call yourself. Let me give you a little history about myself! Not all of us have the time to be living fake lives on social network ok?

My mother's father is from Benue, but he migrated to Agbor very long ago while he was younger and he married an Ubulu-uku woman, he had 3 children of which my mother was one of them.
My mother and her sibblings grew up in Ubulu uku and my mother actually got into a relationship with a man from a neighbouring community and she gave birth to me. My grandfather got old and he decided to go back to Benue state and he took all his children and his Anioma wife back to Benue state, including me his grandaughter. My mother then later got married to a Benue man and i grew up in this my Benue step father's house and accepted him aa my father and this is the reason why i mostly claim Benue as my state of origin! It was later on that i re-united with my real father through the help of my grandmother from Ubulu-uku and i do visit that town yearly to see my biological father, sometimes together with my granny who is also from that town (are you happy now that i have told you my whole life history?)

genieluv:


All aniomas are in this together and not only Ikas.
We enuanis[/b]do not understand central Ibo 100% too, but [b]we can pick it to a large extent especially the Anambra dialect which is closer to ours.

Which part of Ika are u from?

Funny.
i have been following all ur Comment and non of it make any sense.
U said ur mother is from ubulu uku
that does not even automatically make u an Anioma person talkless of an Enuani person

ikechu1:
Some of you SE are very gullible.

Ridiculously GULLIBLE!!!!

Continue dancing to this people divide and rule tactics. I'm done trying to.get you Niggas to understand

As for you genieluv..MAY GOD BLAST THAT YOUR HEAD for pretending to be anioma. Useless things..both you and chukzyblingz.

Nna, dalu so. I was suspecting her but I wanted to make sure before I accused her of anything, hence my response to her. Her point about Igbos from Onitsha and Nsukka being similar to Anioma people but different to other Igbo people caught my attention. Why do these people try so hard to cause divisions amongst us?

genieluv:



Yes Ikechu or whatever you call yourself. Let me give you a little history about myself! Not all of us have the time to be living fake lives on social network ok?

My mother's father is from Benue, but he migrated to Agbor very long ago while he was younger and he married an Ubulu-uku woman, he had 3 children of which my mother was one of them.
My mother and her sibblings grew up in Ubulu uku and my mother actually got into a relationship with a man from a neighbouring community and she gave birth to me. My grandfather got old and he decided to go back to Benue state and he took all his children and his Anioma wife back to Benue state, including me his grandaughter. My mother then later got married to a Benue man and i grew up in this my Benue step father's house and accepted him aa my father and this is the reason why i mostly claim Benue as my state of origin! It was later on that i re-united with my real father through the help of my grandmother from Ubulu-uku and i do visit that town yearly to see my biological father, sometimes together with my granny who is also from that town (are you happy now that i have told you my whole life history?)

U are a Very Big Criminal

Abagworo:


I don't get you at all. Igbanke people wrote a petition and yet you are arguing with them. Obi of Agbo's name is Ikenchukwu which is an Ika name or you are one of those Bini trying to erase Ika heritage of Igbanke because of the Igbo similarity Like they wrote in that petition Ika names like Chikwe were modified to Ehikwe in order to spund similar to Bini. IMHO changing names is only a factor but I doubt if it can change the heritage.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z0_WpD12ho

Chikwe? an Ika name? hmmm!!!
seems you don't know anything about Ika.

ikechu1:
Some of you SE are very gullible.

Ridiculously GULLIBLE!!!!

Continue dancing to this people divide and rule tactics. I'm done trying to.get you Niggas to understand

As for you genieluv..MAY GOD BLAST THAT YOUR HEAD for pretending to be anioma. Useless things..both you and chukzyblingz.

i Knew it bro.
i just Ignored her

genieluv:



Yes Ikechu or whatever you call yourself. Let me give you a little history about myself! Not all of us have the time to be living fake lives on social network ok?

My mother's father is from Benue, but he migrated to Agbor very long ago while he was younger and he married an Ubulu-uku woman, he had 3 children of which my mother was one of them.
My mother and her sibblings grew up in Ubulu uku and my mother actually got into a relationship with a man from a neighbouring community and she gave birth to me. My grandfather got old and he decided to go back to Benue state and he took all his children and his Anioma wife back to Benue state, including me his grandaughter. My mother then later got married to a Benue man and i grew up in this my Benue step father's house and accepted him aa my father and this is the reason why i mostly claim Benue as my state of origin! It was later on that i re-united with my real father through the help of my grandmother from Ubulu-uku and i do visit that town yearly to see my biological father, sometimes together with my granny who is also from that town (are you happy now that i have told you my whole life history?)

Can you please shut the f2k up with your attache by force ass. You joined this forum last year, throughout years on NL you focused on Middle belt. You even exposed your own self by claiming Middle belt. When arguing with igbo regarding your bigot comments to igbo, you sheld yourself by pretending to be mixed igbo ( your own comments) And now, in a thread regarding anioma is when you decided to be Enuani that's not Igbo.

Next time you try to be a bigot, be proud of your Benue heritage and stop using others as your shield.

Lady, I'm Enuani and I'll appreciate it if you stop pretending to be one of us. You are NOT!!!

ikechu1:


SHE'S not Aniocha. She is from Benue state.
What I don't understand is the level of disgust people have to get just to showcase their bigotry.

If you are a bigot to igbo while attach to a community to showcase your bigotry. Honestly, I pray I pity that bitch cause I would slap her.

I'm getting very irritated with northernets, Benin and yoruba pretending to be anioma on this forum to cause division within a community. This is one of the main reason I cannot stand this miserable nation.

I wouldn't have really cared if she pretended to be from Ika as I don't really have that much in common with them but the fact that she tried to drag Aniocha/Oshimili people into her mess indirectly drags my people into it as well. I don't like it when people try to distort my history.

Chiwude:
You're right bro. The Igbo language is like a big umbrella accomodating all Igbo groups in every area and clime. An Ika man for instance does'nt need to understand Igbo Izugbe before he tells what an Nnewi man is saying, so fort and so on. I for instance understand Ika, Ukwuani and Ikwerre no matter how much the speaker try to twist the phonetics. Most to the dismay of my Owa friend who kept asking me whether I usually eavesdrop on his family whenever they speak their Ika in close doors.

What you just wrote is a fallacy. You cannot claim to understand every Igboid dialect without actually living or interacting with the speakers. Maybe when written down you can deduce the meaning using the similarity in lexis or the shared words. Ika will be difficult for even Onitsha Ugbo to understand not to talk of Imo State lime you. In Igbo language you understand dialects proximal to yours or you've interacted with.

bigfrancis21:
genieluv, so you are actually from Benue state but you've been parading yourself here since as an Anioma?

Read my story above. I am of dual origins but my biological father is originally Anioma, even my maternal grandmother and my mother and her sibblings were born in Anioma land. check my comments from the beginning, that is what i always wrote.
Infact i really did not used to accept my Deltan origin in the past until after some few years ago. Are u guys happy now?

chukzyblingz:
If you listen to Ika movies and musics and hear them use chukwu and chi instead of Osolobue and ehi, it's because they're not speaking the real Ika. The real Ika words have deep root in Ika cultures but the Igbo ones don't. Ika is neither Igbo nor Bini but majority of Ika kingdoms were founded by people from Bini/Ishan area.

Nah, I respect your decision if you want to carve a different identity for yourself but do not try to distort history in your bid for distinctness. Majority of Ika kingdoms were not founded by people from the Bini/Ishan area but instead the Ikas were aboriginally Igbo-speaking people influenced by Bini/Ishan customs and traditions due to living close to each other. Moreover, there is nothing like 'original ika'. You'd be surprised to find that the Ika spoken pre bini kingdom influence may have been fully Igbo before the bini influence on it. That would be the 'real ika' you are mentioning here which is gradually being restored again to its previous state in recent times. The Ikas practise several Nri customs such as the Nze na Ozo, etc. which indicates its historical connection to the Nri people who live far away from the Ikas. Just like the Ohafias borrowed from the Annangs/Ibibios, the Ikas borrowed the Bini style of leadership and some festivals such as Igue etc. but their true identity - their language, was never distorted. Language, when not forced upon on a people, is often said to be the main identity of a people that identifies a people regardless of the influence they may have. Best said, the Ikas who speak an Igbo dialect are ethnically an Igbo group but politically are not Igbo.

I understand that you are Ika and not Igbo. However, the history itself should not be distorted.

Ngozi123:


I wouldn't have really cared if she pretended to be from Ika as I don't really have that much in common with them but the fact that she tried to drag Aniocha/Oshimili people into her mess indirectly drags my people into it as well. I don't like it when people try to distort my history.

She's disgusting. Like I really don't care when they pretend to be ika but when you pretend to be something I am and giving out poor image and statement about us that's when I get pissed off.


I find that genieluv, the most disgusting out of all the attache by force on this forum.

genieluv:


Wait oo, why are you the only one here using harsh words on people? Are you the only Igbo man in the world? Do you think hatred can ever win the hearts of people to a cause or belief?
Stop insulting Anioma people pls. There are many things we don't like about Igbos but we don't go around calling them names. I bet you that you don't have the monopoly of insults. Continue insulting Aniomas and you and i will go down here. Mtchww

Who want's to exchange nonsense with you? Who's insulting Anioma? Don't hide under that umbrella. It is the Igbo-Hating 2-faced bi-polar dimwits like you that will continue to get the shorter end. A self-denying idiot will go out and misbehave with an Igbo name and then we're all dragged in the mud. No one cares the fool may be a benin-serving stooge under an Igbo name.
Lest you get it twisted,I have never cared what self-denying idiots claim to be so don't ever think I'll patronize you by trying to convince a brick. I'm the last person to convince you you're Igbo,who are you? Go and have seat biko. taata.

genieluv:


Read my story above. I am of dual origins but my biological father is originally Anioma, even my maternal grandmother and my mother and her sibblings were born in Anioma land. check my comments from the beginning, that is what i always wrote.
Infact i really did not used to accept my Deltan origin in the past until after some few years ago. Are u guys happy now?

Shut up U this Criminal
u claimed that only ur mother is from Ubulu uku now
U have change d story that its ur father and all ur family that is from anioma n was born in Anioma.
U are nothing but a Criminal

ikechu1:


Can you please shut the f2k up with your attache by force ass. You joined this forum last year, throughout years on NL you focused on Middle belt. You even exposed your own self by claiming Middle belt. When arguing with igbo regarding your bigot comments to igbo, you sheld yourself by pretending to be half igbo ( your own comments) And now, in a thread regarding anioma is when you decided to be Enuani that's not Igbo.

Next time you try to be a bigot, be proud of your Beniece heritage and stop using others as your shield.

Lady, I'm Enuani and I'll appreciate it if you stop pretending to be one of us. You are NOT!!!

The problem with some of you is that tribal hatred and madness has come over you that you really no longer act like civilized people. Infact very soon ama leave nairaland, this is why i really am not active in this site due to the level of tribalism here.
If you were a civilized person, you would have politely asked me why i claimed middlebelt in the past and now claiminig Enuani and i would have politely explained it to you.
If not, on a normal day, what business do you think a Benue person would have with Enuani issue?
Pls, we did not go to school or just acquired an education for nothing but to act as civilzed people.

If you doubt my 'Anioma-ness', you are free to ask me any question, at least my grandmother taught me about the culture and she and my mother used to speak the language a lot and since i have been visiting there for years now, i have learnt a lot of things about the culture. I also try my best to keep close to issues surrounding my hometown like this Kingship tussle of late which brought a teenager to become our crowned OBI in Ubulu-uku kingdom.

The fool is nearly an @boki sef. I've messed up. Egbe eluigwe sewa gi otu eba. Ya dikwana gi na mma nkita ara.

genieluv:



The problem with some of you is that tribal hatred and madness has come over you that you really no longer act like civilized people. Infact very soon ama leave nairaland, this is why i really am not active in this site due to the level of tribalism here.
If you were a civilized person, you would have politely asked me why i claimed middlebelt in the past and now claiminig Enuani and i would have politely explained it to you.
If not, on a normal day, what business do you think a Benue person would have with Enuani issue?
Pls, we did not go to school or just acquired an education for nothing but to act as civilzed people.

If you doubt my 'Anioma-ness', you are free to ask me any question, at least my grandmother taught me about the culture and she and my mother used to speak the language a lot and since i have been visiting there for years now, i have learnt a lot of things about the culture. I also try my best to keep close to issues surrounding my hometown like this Kingship tussle of late which brought a teenager to become our crowned OBI in Ubulu-uku kingdom.

YOH ARE NOT ENUANI, nor do you have a grandmother that is ENUANI. YOU ARE NOT EVEN FROM DELTA STATE AT ALL

You are NOT one of us it's beyond obvious with each of your post.
This face saving tactics is more stupid than pretending to be what you are not.

After getting exposed, it's all of a sudden you used to be middle belt, then turn to Anioma over night. Bitch shut up.

You'very NEVER CLAIMED ANIOMA EVER!!!! On this forum. I have looked through your past post and incase you try to modify one of your post and add one comment, I've already screenshot ed each of your post.

Bitch you went from Middle belt claiming to mixed igbo claiming back to middle belt and now, attaching to Anioma.

Stop pretending to be wtf you are NOT!!!!

ikechu1:


Next time you try to be a bigot, be proud of your Benue heritage and stop using others as your shield.

Lady, I'm Enuani and I'll appreciate it if you stop pretending to be one of us. You are NOT!!!

And just for your info! I am equally as proud of my Benue origin as i am proud of my Enuani origin. I was raised by a Benue man who took me as his own daughter and raised me up when my biological father was not there. If not for my grandmother whom i respect so much, such a lovely woman, i would not have cared about re-uniting with my biological father in Delta state some years ago.
So if you touch my Benue identity i roar against you, touch my Deltan identity i do likewise? Comprenez vous?

bigfrancis21:


Nah, I respect your decision if you want to carve a different identity for yourself but do not try to distort history in your bid for distinctness. Majority of Ika kingdoms were not founded by people from the Bini/Ishan area but instead the Ikas were aboriginally Igbo-speaking people influenced by Bini/Ishan customs and traditions due to living close to each other. Moreover, there is nothing like 'original ika'. You'd be surprised to find that the Ika spoken pre bini kingdom influence may have been fully Igbo before the bini influence on it. That would be the 'real ika' you are mentioning here which is gradually being restored again to its previous state in recent times. The Ikas practise several Nri customs such as the Nze na Ozo, etc. which indicates its historical connection to the Nri people who live far away from the Ikas. Just like the Ohafias borrowed from the Annangs/Ibibios, the Ikas borrowed the Bini style of leadership and some festivals such as Igue etc. but their true identity - their language, was never distorted. Language, when not forced upon on a people, is often said to be the main identity of a people that identifies a people regardless of the influence they may have. Best said, the Ikas who speak an Igbo dialect are ethnically an Igbo group but politically are not Igbo.

I understand that you are Ika and not Igbo. However, the history itself should not be distorted.

There is no Nze Na Ozo title in Ika. There are a few Igbo cultures in Ika but nobody knows about these them. They're very insignificant in Ika kingdoms. The major cultures and festivals are Edo ones.

There's no proof that the Aborigines of Ika lands are Igbos. Don't say what you don't know. And yes, there is a way the real Ika language is spoken you can't even understand it. Ika language has been Igbonized a great deal and that's the fact. There is nothing like a language going back to what it used to be. Igbo jas the population to influence any minority language around them but Bini doesn't have that.

More example of what that woman is.

SlayerSupreme:
The fool is nearly an Aboki sef. I've messed up. Egbe eluigwe sewa gi otu eba. Ya dikwana gi na mma nkita ara.

See how ipob members like you display stupidity. Are you better than the northernerns? They are ten times better than you ok? This madness you guys exhibit is the reason why the south-south ibo speaking tribea are running away from you. Ipob miscreants!

genieluv:


And just for your info! I am equally as proud of my Benue origin as i am proud of my Enuani origin. I was raised by a Benue man who took me as his own daughter and raised me up when my biological father was not there. If not for my grandmother whom i respect so much, such a lovely woman, i would not have cared about re-uniting with my biological father in Delta state some years ago.
So if you touch my Benue identity i roar against you, touch my Deltan identity i do likewise? Comprenez vous?

Get out of my comment and never quote me again. I already did what I wanted to do....exposed your fake @ss for what you truly are.

Every other save face tactics by you is not of my interest. You can create as many fictional bloodline to Anioma to save your miserable attach by force @ss.....it is not my concern.

As far as I'm concerned, you are a disgusting pig