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Re: Nigerians Condemn Nba’s Threat Over Judges’ Arrest by cyprex: 12:04pm On Oct 10, 2016
I wonder what the hullabaloo is all about.
Some persons suspected of corruption were arrested and here we are making issues out of it.
I have hear many people rely on separation of powers to criticize the actions of the DSS, I wonder whether executing the law is not part of the functions of the executive.
Some have based their criticism on the time of carrying out the arrest, I wonder whether there are times in day/ night that the law prohibits arrest from being made.
Under S.308 the constitution, there is no immunity cover for judges.
Some highly placed persons have argued the judges ought to have been invited and not arrested. Which law prohibits arrest but prescribes invitation for persons where there are hard evidences indicating that crime is being committed.

It is expected that judges leave above board and must be treated like criminals when they descend to that realm.

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Re: Nigerians Condemn Nba’s Threat Over Judges’ Arrest by Phace(m): 12:08pm On Oct 10, 2016
koboko69:


I don't have time to argue with ignorant dundees like u.

Go to the constitution and read properly about arrests, the CPA acts, the NSA acts. Thank me later.

Lol. Just apprise yourself with the correct facts and laws before stepping out to argue.

No doubt, you must have read it but you applied it outta context. Any person can arrest, the police can arrest without warrants too but all is made subject to the strength of due process.

Be informed.
Re: Nigerians Condemn Nba’s Threat Over Judges’ Arrest by kaycodes: 12:08pm On Oct 10, 2016
Phace:


When the NJC retired the two justices and handed the other for prosecution, did they ask them to go and sin no more?

Please be sure of your facts!

The NJC did not break into the houses of those judges, they instead invited them upon investigations being carried out and questioned them before a disciplinary tribunal set up for that purpose.

That's Due Process.

Please retiring justices that are almost at the twilight of their careers, and asking one to refund the money he collected installmentally is in your opinion 'good enough' punishments? Please Mr. don't play technicalities here, because while we are at it, their corrupt actions have real and horrible consequences on Nigerians. If they collected bribes, they should all be handed over for prosecution and actually prosecuted. I don't see how retiring an alleged corrupt judge is hardly any punishment for his crimes, it seems more like a slap on the wrist. So tell me why they won't continue taking bribes? For an institution that prides itself as the hope of the common man, they sure don't inspire any hope.

Fortunately, the DSS will not use the same tactics as the NJC, because they are trained differently, that's why I've been asking if the DSS broke any laws, by arresting the judges based on their investigations. If so what part of their actions contravene the Nigerian constitution. If you're a legal practitioner, you should be able to point us to the facts! So we can be enlightened.

We want corruption to go, but we don't want a breakdown of law and order, so let's get the technicalities out of the way, and get to the nitty gritty of the matter....

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Re: Nigerians Condemn Nba’s Threat Over Judges’ Arrest by Pylony(m): 12:09pm On Oct 10, 2016
koboko69:
[b]1. I have never seen any where in the constitution where there is a stipulated time for arrest. As a matter of fact, u can be arrested anytime, any where and any day. Arresting by 1am, 4am, 12pm or on to of your olosho is inconsequential.

2. I have never seen any where in the constitution, where a serving Judge or a lawyer can not be arrested. This is more like saying they have immunity.

3. As a matter of fact, one can be arrested with or without a warrant, on suspicion on a criminal offence against the federal or state laws. E.g Bribery and Corruption.

4. The SSS takes their time to actually screen these clowns before confirmation of their appointments. This simply means their actions and inactions can be a threat to national security. If SSS screens them,why can't they be arrested by the same SSS?

In view of the above, the propaganda of tyranny and subversion of the rule of law, being propagated against this government by the wailing dundees, is a deliberate attempt to gag the present government from performing her constitutional duties. It is also a way of meeting up with their ever unendind wailing demand since the disgrace of an incumbent president loosing to the opposition.[/b]

Are u a Dundee?
Don't mind all those supporters of Anti-arrest who think a judge is a saint of justice. If a poor man could be stormed for arrest on his bed by the police in the middle of the night, who is a judge alleged to have taking part in eating our national yam??

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Re: Nigerians Condemn Nba’s Threat Over Judges’ Arrest by Lexxyburg(m): 12:09pm On Oct 10, 2016
I just want to wake up to the news that every politicians died mysteriously in their sleep.
Re: Nigerians Condemn Nba’s Threat Over Judges’ Arrest by Abok1(m): 12:10pm On Oct 10, 2016
sucess001:




they are only pummeled by governement sponsored persona like you...i am a member of the NBA and i allign fully with them...


for judges...their disciplinary process is different and handled by the NJC...


the reason is simple for anyone that has brains....if you arrest all the judges...who will judge their case?



and we have a principle in law saying you cant be a judge in your own case...DSS has started acting like judges...


we have laws....it should be respected...



instead of government to obey laws...they would rather pay pple like you to defend their indefensible actions on social media...


Unbelievable conclusion and inference from you right there.

If you are a member of the NBA as you claimed, then I shudder at the thought of you representing a client with your uninhibited support for the jumentous actions of these individuals.

Your line of argument to justify the corrupt judges is filipendulous, to say the least, and you wonder why the Nigerian law profession is not respected anymore like the days of yore.

Just like a mumpsimus, the NJC has been corrupt by the infection warranted by the people constitutes it. It is a futile effort expecting the NJC to adjudicate this matter because of the caliber of people involved.

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Re: Nigerians Condemn Nba’s Threat Over Judges’ Arrest by eaglechild: 12:14pm On Oct 10, 2016
Any country whose executive starts toying with separation of powers and starts justifying unlawful raids in the guise of arrest while flaunting laid down rules of how to tackle the judiciary is sliding into tyranny.

Nigeria is fast descending into tyranny.

The fight against corruption is highly targeted and selective. While some of the most corrupt Nigerians like Amechi and Tinubu are overlooked and rewarded with positions despite gross evidence against them, others in the opposition are being hounded to death.

We then wonder why our economy is not making any progress.

Buhari is replaying the same old script that led to his ousting as military president.

The fight against corruption is supported but must not be selective and must be done under the rule of law.
Re: Nigerians Condemn Nba’s Threat Over Judges’ Arrest by ilenaira: 12:16pm On Oct 10, 2016
malton:


As am I.

These morons have a knack for supporting vices.

I don tire for them wallahi.

Corrupt judges must face the full wrath of the people.


My brothers, thank you. That some people can, in all good conscience, support a corrupt judiciary ... smh cry cry cry

#iamoneofthem!

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Re: Nigerians Condemn Nba’s Threat Over Judges’ Arrest by Phace(m): 12:18pm On Oct 10, 2016
cyprex:
I wonder what the hullabaloo is all about.
Some persons suspected of corruption were arrested and here we are making issues out of it.
I have hear (sic) many people rely on separation of powers to criticize the actions of the DSS, I wonder whether executing the law is not part of the functions of the executive.
Some have based their criticism on the time of carrying out the arrest, I wonder whether there are times in day/ night that the law prohibits arrest from being made.
Under S.308 the constitution, there is no immunity cover for judges.
Some highly placed persons have argued the judges ought to have been invited and not arrested. Which law prohibits arrest but prescribes invitation for persons where there are hard evidences indicating that crime is being committed.

It is expected that judges leave above board and must be treated like criminals when they descend to that realm.

Nice.

But the power of the DSS to arrest is limited to only such offences provided by the Act that created them. Under such offences, siphoning of public funds is not among them. Hence, their arrest is outside the law.

Besides, the NJC is the body with the disciplinary powers over judges and justices and still remains so. It is not part of the judiciary.

The main crux of the whole argument is that uncouthed arrest could tell on the courts as the last hope of these helpless masses the FG has been tossing around.
Re: Nigerians Condemn Nba’s Threat Over Judges’ Arrest by bigtt76(f): 12:21pm On Oct 10, 2016
Don't mind them. They knew without those judges and other corrupt ones to be exposed soon, they can hardly win a case genuinely. grin

NgeneUkwenu:
The Useless NBA are being pummeled up and down all over the Social Media....They underestimated Nigerians anger towards corruption...

They thought everybody was an ipob Yoot!
Re: Nigerians Condemn Nba’s Threat Over Judges’ Arrest by Phace(m): 12:23pm On Oct 10, 2016
Abok1:



Unbelievable conclusion and inference from you right there.

If you are a member of the NBA as you claimed, then I shudder at the thought of you representing a client with your uninhibited support for the jumentous actions of these individuals.

Your line of argument to justify the corrupt judges is filipendulous, to say the least, and you wonder why the Nigerian law profession is not respected anymore like the days of yore.

Just like a mumpsimus, the NJC has been corrupt by the infection warranted by the people constitutes it. It is a futile effort expecting the NJC to adjudicate this matter because of the caliber of people involved.



So the NJC can be politically influenced and the SSS can't be.

Its not about grammar, brother. You make use of facts to support your argument.
Re: Nigerians Condemn Nba’s Threat Over Judges’ Arrest by donodion(m): 12:23pm On Oct 10, 2016
koboko69:
[b]1. I have never seen any where in the constitution where there is a stipulated time for arrest. As a matter of fact, u can be arrested anytime, any where and any day. Arresting by 1am, 4am, 12pm or on to of your olosho is inconsequential.

2. I have never seen any where in the constitution, where a serving Judge or a lawyer can not be arrested. This is more like saying they have immunity.

3. As a matter of fact, one can be arrested with or without a warrant, on suspicion on a criminal offence against the federal or state laws. E.g Bribery and Corruption.

4. The SSS takes their time to actually screen these clowns before confirmation of their appointments. This simply means their actions and inactions can be a threat to national security. If SSS screens them,why can't they be arrested by the same SSS?

In view of the above, the propaganda of tyranny and subversion of the rule of law, being propagated against this government by the wailing dundees, is a deliberate attempt to gag the present government from performing her constitutional duties. It is also a way of meeting up with their ever unendind wailing demand since the disgrace of an incumbent president loosing to the opposition.[/b]

Are u a Dundee?


Buhahahahaha you made my day.

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Re: Nigerians Condemn Nba’s Threat Over Judges’ Arrest by TROY85(m): 12:25pm On Oct 10, 2016
Abeymills:
Buhari n his hords of zombies d judgement of God awaits u all in dis life or d next
One of the 32%
Re: Nigerians Condemn Nba’s Threat Over Judges’ Arrest by nokingasgod: 12:32pm On Oct 10, 2016
koboko69:


I don't have time to argue with ignorant dundees like u.

Go to the constitution and read properly about arrests, the CPA acts, the NSA acts. Thank me later.

Sir, Its a waste of time arguing with some pathological mofos. The internet is the most approachable, most affordable institution of learning at primary, medium, higher levels etc. There is hardly a subject under the sun that you will not find abundant resources online needed to equip yourself for a debate, be it in academic, political, ''beer parlour'', name it.

If only some of us could spend half the time used propagating hatred, bigotry, spewing rubbish, exhibitting unpardonable ignorances online to research into matters online and then make informed opinion before joining online frays,ours will be a better society.

The DSS acted within the ambit of the law and its mandate and this should be clear to all except a ''charge and bail'' few that hijacked the body of a very noble profession.

Where a suspect is resisting entry into any property, abode, villa etc, the DSS has the right to apply reasonable force to gain entry.
Re: Nigerians Condemn Nba’s Threat Over Judges’ Arrest by hrykanu231(m): 12:39pm On Oct 10, 2016
dunkem21:


Honestly, I detest corruption more than a pig ..

I am just against the desperation to force Nigerians opinions along unnecessarily.

Let the masses see your efforts, facts and be the judge.

Cross reactions from the Twitter community would've been apt not this, Biko.

We all cannot think the same way bro and some of us don't even use Twitter*smiles* we have suffered enough in this country bro, the rule of law allowed Ibori escape, the same rules of law gave Maina a path on the back. So I think a new system was needed...let the elites feel the pain of the masses firsthand, atleast for once. Mark my words very soon Ameachi and his likes will face same. In the end, let the masses ask for judicious use of the funds to better our standard of living.

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Re: Nigerians Condemn Nba’s Threat Over Judges’ Arrest by Phace(m): 12:48pm On Oct 10, 2016
kaycodes:


Please retiring justices that are almost at the twilight of their careers, and asking one to refund the money he collected installmentally is in your opinion 'good enough' punishments? Please Mr. don't play technicalities here, because while we are at it, their corrupt actions have real and horrible consequences on Nigerians. If they collected bribes, they should all be handed over for prosecution and actually prosecuted. I don't see how retiring an alleged corrupt judge is hardly any punishment for his crimes, it seems more like a slap on the wrist. So tell me why they won't continue taking bribes? For an institution that prides itself as the hope of the common man, they sure don't inspire any hope.

Fortunately, the DSS will not use the same tactics as the NJC, because they are trained differently, that's why I've been asking if the DSS broke any laws, by arresting the judges based on their investigations. If so what part of their actions contravene the Nigerian constitution. If you're a legal practitioner, you should be able to point us to the facts! So we can be enlightened.

We want corruption to go, but we don't want a breakdown of law and order, so let's get the technicalities out of the way, and get to the nitty gritty of the matter....

Like I said, you have to be wary of your facts.

Two justices were compulsorily retired: Justices Mohammed Tsamiya and then, Justice A. Umezurike. The former was alleged to have DEMANDED sums of money prior to the judgement of a particular suit, while the latter was charged of malicious handling of a suit hence their retirement.

Not one of them collected money from anyone except the third Justice Kabiru Auta, who now must be in police custody. So I don't know where you got your fact that the justices were asked to return looted sums instalmentaly.

Moreover, the powers of the DSS like I've poured out over this thread is limited to only matters concerning internal security and the protection of the government, not financial crimes handling. They should leav that for the EFCC and ICPC.

Its not about tactics; its about rule of law.
Re: Nigerians Condemn Nba’s Threat Over Judges’ Arrest by Oblang(m): 1:05pm On Oct 10, 2016
dunkem21:


See the high calibre of zombies that commented. The strategy is prepare a thread by 12(when witches parade) then by 6pm they call a mod to put it on FP to represent the views of Nigerians.

It doesn't change the fact that u are wailing dundee...
Re: Nigerians Condemn Nba’s Threat Over Judges’ Arrest by NairaMaster1(m): 1:06pm On Oct 10, 2016
koboko69:


LINK:http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/more-news/212403-nigerians-condemn-nbas-threat-judges-arrest.html
Now premium time is supporting impunity because they have had a secret meeting at the villa before this. When buhari come for you we will still be here to comment. I expect another headline on those who are against impunity. Remember the key word is impunity " nobody is supporting corruption than PMB. Buratai earns less than A judge save $200M but ccleared Deciles
Re: Nigerians Condemn Nba’s Threat Over Judges’ Arrest by Oblang(m): 1:14pm On Oct 10, 2016
Love Machine:
If gej had taken that same step,zombies would have bitten him.

Are the wailers not bitting Buhari now? Does that intimidate him? That's what gej should have done but unfortunately he's too weak for that..
Re: Nigerians Condemn Nba’s Threat Over Judges’ Arrest by Oblang(m): 1:18pm On Oct 10, 2016
Phace:


Anyone who reads this will know how ignorant you are.

You ain't aware of the fact that the crime of corruption is under the enforcement auspices of the ICPC or the EFCC?

Or that the DSS or the SSS is charged with offences affecting internal security and like crimes?

I won't be surprised if you think that the police can wake up one morning to effect an arrest on another by breaking into his apartment even when such a person is not in absentia or that an arrest entails forcefully dragging a person into a person into police custody.

Boy, Due Process is more than that. Due process is following the law, not just the constitution but such other laws blessed by it with enforceable authority.

Besides, you don't just arrest with or without a warrant {which funny enough is given by a judge}, you also must have the authority to arrest. Again, the SSS does not screen judges and justices, it is done by the NJC and such body reserves the displinary powers over such officers.

Reread your constitution and Acts, before coming to make nasty comments.

And u think a compromised judiciary wont breach internal security.
Re: Nigerians Condemn Nba’s Threat Over Judges’ Arrest by dunkem21(m): 1:23pm On Oct 10, 2016
Oblang:


It doesn't change the fact that u are wailing dundee...

I no go wan make dem ban you make you no go follow your fellow zombie dey wail cheesy
Re: Nigerians Condemn Nba’s Threat Over Judges’ Arrest by Nexo: 1:38pm On Oct 10, 2016
koboko69:
[b]1. I have never seen any where in the constitution where there is a stipulated time for arrest. As a matter of fact, u can be arrested anytime, any where and any day. Arresting by 1am, 4am, 12pm or on to of your olosho is inconsequential.

2. I have never seen any where in the constitution, where a serving Judge or a lawyer can not be arrested. This is more like saying they have immunity.

3. As a matter of fact, one can be arrested with or without a warrant, on suspicion on a criminal offence against the federal or state laws. E.g Bribery and Corruption.

4. The SSS takes their time to actually screen these clowns before confirmation of their appointments. This simply means their actions and inactions can be a threat to national security. If SSS screens them,why can't they be arrested by the same SSS?

In view of the above, the propaganda of tyranny and subversion of the rule of law, being propagated against this government by the wailing dundees, is a deliberate attempt to gag the present government from performing her constitutional duties. It is also a way of meeting up with their ever unendind wailing demand since the disgrace of an incumbent president loosing to the opposition.[/b]

Are u a Dundee?
DSS is primarily concerned with Homeland security. EFCC and ICPC for financial crimes. Why should a serving judge should be arrested by over 500 DSS and Police officers by that time. Are they terrorists or insurgents?? Say what ever you like but would you say same if either of the judges was your dad and wasn't treated fairly? Why did they not get invited like everyone else? Why is their case aan exception? This has all the trappings of intimidation and victimization. And just for the record your the dumb person here.
Re: Nigerians Condemn Nba’s Threat Over Judges’ Arrest by LORDOFAFONJAS: 1:43pm On Oct 10, 2016
where did they see the nigerians that commented?
Re: Nigerians Condemn Nba’s Threat Over Judges’ Arrest by progress69: 1:52pm On Oct 10, 2016
Nexo:
DSS is primarily concerned with Homeland security. EFCC and ICPC for financial crimes. Why should a serving judge should be arrested by over 500 DSS and Police officers by that time. Are they terrorists or insurgents?? Say what ever you like but would you say same if either of the judges was your dad and wasn't treated fairly? Why did they not get invited like everyone else? Why is their case aan exception? This has all the trappings of intimidation and victimization. And just for the record your the dumb person here.
You were the one that counted the 500 DSS officers abi. You peoppe will just come here with beer palor gist. In b/w the internet is there to learn. Read about the roles of the SSS. Like i said, if the NJC sends names to SSS for screening before appointment, why can't the DSS arest the same thieves?
Re: Nigerians Condemn Nba’s Threat Over Judges’ Arrest by dunkem21(m): 1:57pm On Oct 10, 2016
progress69:


Oga...u are a wailing Dundee!

Omenka, I don hear wink
Re: Nigerians Condemn Nba’s Threat Over Judges’ Arrest by sucess001(m): 2:55pm On Oct 10, 2016
Abok1:



Unbelievable conclusion and inference from you right there.

If you are a member of the NBA as you claimed, then I shudder at the thought of you representing a client with your uninhibited support for the jumentous actions of these individuals.

Your line of argument to justify the corrupt judges is filipendulous, to say the least, and you wonder why the Nigerian law profession is not respected anymore like the days of yore.

Just like a mumpsimus, the NJC has been corrupt by the infection warranted by the people constitutes it. It is a futile effort expecting the NJC to adjudicate this matter because of the caliber of people involved.




So you have made sense with the big grammar u posted?


i cant address any point you made cos you didnt make any...


senseless bigot
Re: Nigerians Condemn Nba’s Threat Over Judges’ Arrest by kaltonga: 3:02pm On Oct 10, 2016
koboko69:


LINK:http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/more-news/212403-nigerians-condemn-nbas-threat-judges-arrest.html
i dont see nigerians , all i see is afonjas and the baboons of the dahomey empire
Re: Nigerians Condemn Nba’s Threat Over Judges’ Arrest by Rasheed02(m): 3:39pm On Oct 10, 2016
Ìwà ọmọ níí mú ọmọ jẹ òkigbẹ́. Gentleman kan a máa ṣe oògùn ìlayà bí?. Ìka tó bá ṣẹ ni ọba ń gé. Anybody tó bá fẹ́ ba country wa jẹ́, ẹ gbé e, gbogbo aṣebàjẹ́ pátápátá ló ń lọ nílè yìí. Lílọ sì ti wá pé oríṣiríṣi.Ẹlòmíràn á fi lé lẹ, á gbọna àtìmọ, ẹlòmíràn á fi ayé nlẹ, á gbọrun lọ!!! Say no to ìwà jẹgúdú jẹrá!!! Steer clear of corruption!!! Stop tampering with our Baytul Mal!!! Kúnrunmí is on his way with his sword of justice!!! - JURIST AYODEJI RASHEED TEMITOPE 2016
Re: Nigerians Condemn Nba’s Threat Over Judges’ Arrest by Abok1(m): 3:45pm On Oct 10, 2016
Phace:


So the NJC can be politically influenced and the SSS can't be.

Its not about grammar, brother. You make use of facts to support your argument.



I for one wouldn't muddle up facts while explaining a situation, and would gladly elaborate on the point(s) I've made if it seems ambiguous.

Although in reality, the Laws of nature do not always double as natural laws, but one law has proven its validity beyond science. Every action has an opposite reaction. The DSS made a clear point of its disapproval of the way an appeal court judge was merely retired by the NJC and told to pay the #200 million embezzled in installments. Like seriously? Someone took a bribe of #200 million, and the only punishment is refunding the money? Where is the punishment in that?

The legal definition of punishment is: "The imposition of hardship in response to misconduct.". Where is the hardship in paying in installments, considering the relative value of money over time, inflation and other factors are taken into consideration?


The NJC appears as haughty in its disdain for reality as the fabled elephant on his coronation. The issue at hand is not the legality of the decisions of the DSS, which is very legal.

Its as simple as this; an NJC riddled with ridiculous outcomes of cases handed over to them cannot simply be entrusted with the cleansing of the rot in the judiciary.

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Re: Nigerians Condemn Nba’s Threat Over Judges’ Arrest by TulsaOklahoma: 4:46pm On Oct 10, 2016
[quote author=koboko69 post=50067156][b]1. I have never seen any where in the constitution where there is a stipulated time for arrest. As a matter of fact, u can be arrested anytime, any where and any day. Arresting by 1am, 4am, 12pm or on to of your olosho is inconsequential.

2. I have never seen any where in the constitution, where a serving Judge or a lawyer can not be arrested. This is more like saying they have immunity.

3. As a matter of fact, one can be arrested with or without a warrant, on suspicion on a criminal offence against the federal or state laws. E.g Bribery and Corruption.

4. The SSS takes their time to actually screen these clowns before confirmation of their appointments. This simply means their actions and inactions can be a threat to national security. If SSS screens them,why can't they be arrested by the same SSS?

In view of the above, the propaganda of tyranny and subversion of the rule of law, being propagated against this government by the wailing dundees, is a deliberate attempt to gag the present government from performing her constitutional duties. It is also a way of meeting up with their ever unendind wailing demand since the disgrace of an incumbent president loosing to the opposition.[/b]

Are u a Dundee? [/no I'm not a dundee, I'm a celtic fc]

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