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Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by Pidggin(f): 3:37pm On Oct 12, 2016
EyeHateGod:

Your Previous Post Didn't Answer Anything

Ok
Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by TruthHurts1(m): 6:05pm On Oct 12, 2016
TSOM:
Seun, I posted something similar to this months ago but for some odd reason it got hidden.


Here again, before the viewing public, I'd ask you this:


Seun , you reside in Ogun State which is as traditional as any typical african settlement can be with eerie fetish practices. You also believe there's no God, hence no Devil or spirit/ethereal beings.

Let's test your resolve.

Seun, what if you walk drive home tonight and right there on your doorstep you find bones stringed to feathers and wrapped with a reddish cotton band attached to knotted palm fronds. There's no way around it with removing.

Seun, on your honour, would you dare to remove it?


The question is open to other self-proclaimed atheists too.

Seun is already defecating in his trousers at the prospect having to pass the ultimate form of trial by ordeal which a self acclaimed atheist can go through.
Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by Ishilove: 8:12pm On Oct 12, 2016
Pidggin:


Read my previous post again, if you can't see the reason then your case of spiritual blindness is critical
Why do you even bother yourself? They are scoffers who have no intention of opening their minds to the truth.

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Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by JackBizzle: 8:13pm On Oct 12, 2016
grin grin grin


Common sense left this thread 2 pages ago

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Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by Nobody: 8:14pm On Oct 12, 2016
i ma out of this yey thread the intellectual dishonesty showed by Ishilove and are cohorts is just too bad i must confess

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Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by Nobody: 8:16pm On Oct 12, 2016
JackBizzle:
grin grin grin


Common sense left this thread 2 pages ago
very true ,after reading through this thread i could discover nigerias problem isnt the government but the people

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Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by Ishilove: 8:17pm On Oct 12, 2016
stephenmorris:
i ma out of this yey thread the intellectual dishonesty showed by Ishilove and are cohorts is just too bad i must confess
We're intellectually dishonest because we refuse to tow the path of ignorance?
Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by Nobody: 8:22pm On Oct 12, 2016
Ishilove:

We're intellectually dishonest because we refuse to tow the path of ignorance?
i'm begging you my dear, what path of ignorance.All i want is for you to refute the claims by the op
Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by Tallesty1(m): 8:26pm On Oct 12, 2016
Ishilove:

Scientists have a way of trying to rationalise spiritual things and of course end up with crap like the op.

The phenomenon of spirit spouses cannot be explained away by science.
The owner of this forum told me that the reason my friend experienced sleeping paralysis each time he traveled to the village was because his bed was uncomfortable.



I didn't even bother arguing with him.

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Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by Image123(m): 8:32pm On Oct 12, 2016
stephenmorris:
i'm begging you my dear, what path of ignorance.All i want is for you to refute the claims by the op

There are no claims to refute or even prove. The OP himself proved incapable of defending his OP. The world is not only operative in one narrow perspective. Issues have different angles. Life has different shades, they complement one another not fight or disprove one another. We have seen physical problems solved by spiritual means before and vice versa. There are many ways provided for problem solving and many styles to score a goal.

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Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by Seun(m): 8:32pm On Oct 12, 2016
Tallesty1:
The owner of this forum told me that the reason my friend experienced sleeping paralysis each time he traveled to the village was because his bed was uncomfortable. I didn't even bother arguing with him.
Your belief is that the overweight demons wait for him to wake up, sit on him for some seconds, and then leave. How does this benefit them?

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Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by Pidggin(f): 8:35pm On Oct 12, 2016
Ishilove:

Why do you even bother yourself? They are scoffers who have no intention of opening their minds to the truth.

I know dear, I thought there was hope for him but it seems he has a long way to go.
Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by Image123(m): 8:38pm On Oct 12, 2016
Tallesty1:
The owner of this forum told me that the reason my friend experienced sleeping paralysis each time he traveled to the village was because his bed was uncomfortable.



I didn't even bother arguing with him.

Lol. Some will even deny that there's any such experience. Thank God he's even enlightened enough to an explanation. We speak what we've seen, not Google search. Why, this same sleep paralysis never dared to attempt any attempt to happen to me since that year i prayed it away? i've since slept in all kinds of places, village and beds.

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Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by Tallesty1(m): 8:42pm On Oct 12, 2016
Image123:


Lol. Some will even deny that there's any such experience. Thank God he's even enlightened enough to an explanation. We speak what we've seen, not Google search. Why, this same sleep paralysis never dared to attempt any attempt to happen to me since that year i prayed it away? i've since slept in all kinds of places, village and beds.
Lols. People who think they know all are the most confused people on earth
Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by Image123(m): 8:45pm On Oct 12, 2016
Seun:

Your belief is that the overweight demons wait for him to wake up, sit on him for some seconds, and then leave. How does this benefit them?

i don't know about overweight devils, but satan likes to manipulate and oppress people. The goal and to instill fear and anxiety in you, and sometimes outright death. When he makes you sick, afraid,confused, powerless, that's his goal. To steal, kill and destroy. In whatever means. No small gains or victories for devil,he relishes them all e.g deceiving you.

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Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by Ishilove: 8:46pm On Oct 12, 2016
Tallesty1:
The owner of this forum told me that the reason my friend experienced sleeping paralysis each time he traveled to the village was because his bed was uncomfortable.



I didn't even bother arguing with him.
Lol. Science will always look for big big grammar to explain away things that defy explanations

Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by Ishilove: 8:48pm On Oct 12, 2016
Pidggin:


I know dear, I thought there was hope for him but it seems he has a long way to go.
I admire your faith in mankind

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Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by Tallesty1(m): 8:49pm On Oct 12, 2016
Seun:

Your belief is that the overweight demons wait for him to wake up, sit on him for some seconds, and then leave. How does this benefit them?
I wouldn't have asked the question if I knew enough about it to form any opinion but your quick and baseless conclusion that his bed was uncomfortable didn't click at all.


Talking about uncomfortable bed, if that truly causes sleep paralysis then it would have killed me a long time ago because I used to spend months in my grandfather's house and he's someone who hated anything soft.

His bed was made of sticks from palm palm branches and we used a piece of timber (hard wood) as pillow and Yet I suffered no sleep paralysis.

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Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by Pidggin(f): 8:53pm On Oct 12, 2016
Ishilove:

I admire your faith in mankind

cheesy
Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by Ranchhoddas: 9:10pm On Oct 12, 2016
stephenmorris:
i'm begging you my dear, what path of ignorance.All i want is for you to refute the claims by the op
Where are the claims? Sexomania is not even agreed upon as a disorder by medical practitioners. Where are the damned claims?

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Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by TSOM(m): 11:14pm On Oct 12, 2016
TruthHurts1:


Seun is already defecating in his trousers at the prospect having to pass the ultimate form of trial by ordeal which a self acclaimed atheist can go through.
He created a new thread to address to address it.

I'm awaiting his reply to my challenge there
https://www.nairaland.com/3404101/dare-remove-charm-placed-doorstep/1#50151120
Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by TSOM(m): 11:19pm On Oct 12, 2016
Image123:


Lol. Some will even deny that there's any such experience. Thank God he's even enlightened enough to an explanation. We speak what we've seen, not Google search. Why, this same sleep paralysis never dared to attempt any attempt to happen to me since that year i prayed it away? i've since slept in all kinds of places, village and beds.

These self-acclaimed atheists grew up in the same society like us and were exposed to everything we had to contend with.

They lie to themselves or feign ignorance to ease themselves of the burden of knowledge.

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Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by HyDef(m): 12:32am On Oct 13, 2016
Seriously speaking? Spirit spouses?

(Alliteration Double Score.)

Having not grown up among such... I dunno, ideas? I find them ridiculous. Why can't a dream just be a dream?

Same way a cat can't just be a cat. It has to be a messenger of Satan himself.
Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by Ishilove: 12:52am On Oct 13, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
Where are the claims? Sexomania is not even agreed upon as a disorder by medical practitioners. Where are the damned claims?
I bow. There are some so called postulations that are so ridiculous I don't even bother addressing them.
Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by Ranchhoddas: 3:11am On Oct 13, 2016
Ishilove:

I bow. There are some so called postulations are so ridiculous I don't even bother addressing them.
This is the quote I resort to when I am faced with these kinds of things. Ironically it was made by a famous atheist...The only thing worse than ignorance is the illusion of knowledge-Stephen Hawking

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Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by Nobody: 10:43am On Oct 13, 2016
Ishilove:

Lol. Science will always look for big big grammar to explain away things that defy explanations
If anything in the post you quoted is big grammar to you I feel bad for the people who have wasted their time debating you so far..
Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by Nobody: 10:47am On Oct 13, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
Where are the claims? Sexomania is not even agreed upon as a disorder by medical practitioners. Where are the damned claims?

Sexomnia is in the DSM 5. You can find journal articles on it.
Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by Ranchhoddas: 11:05am On Oct 13, 2016
LightandDarkness:


Sexomnia is in the DSM 5. You can find journal articles on it.
Why did you not put the article here? This article here clearly states that sexomania has not been given recognition by the American Psychiatric Association ie not in DSM-5 or any other DSM. Even if it were, the DSM is not a final authority on mental disorders. Independent practitioners and researches still reserve the right to disagree (Reasonable doubt) http://www.stbotanica.com/blog/is-sexomania-a-real-disease/
Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by Nobody: 11:17am On Oct 13, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
Why did you not put the article here? This article here clearly states that sexomania has not been given recognition by the American Psychiatric Association ie not in DSM-5 or any other DSM. Even if it were, the DSM is not a final authority on mental disorders. Independent practitioners and researches still reserve the right to disagree (Reasonable doubt) http://www.stbotanica.com/blog/is-sexomania-a-real-disease/

Also in your hurry you posted a link about Sexomania and not Sexsomnia, totally different things lol. Besidea that you're linking me a blog not an academic publication.

Apologies on the length of the first link. The section on parasomnias mentions the inclusion of sexsomnia in the DSM 5.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://psychiatry.ufl.edu/files/2015/10/Psychiatric_Times_Khurshid.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwj_joisxNfPAhVlK8AKHT9gASUQFghhMAk&usg=AFQjCNEo1yJ28SJiulNf1QRIbuqDGzpgGw&sig2=FYX6h5MZFede88NbFzUNqg

http://ww1.cpa-apc.org/Publications/Archives/CJP/2003/june/shapiro.asp
Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by Ranchhoddas: 11:33am On Oct 13, 2016
LightandDarkness:


Also in your hurry you posted a link about Sexomania and not Sexsomnia, totally different things lol. Besidea that you're linking me a blog not an academic publication.

Apologies on the length of the first link. The section on parasomnias mentions the inclusion of sexsomnia in the DSM 5.

My mistake. But this is even easier to refute. Sexomnia is described as a form of NREM parasomnia. ie sufferers have no memory of the acts when they wake up. This is very inconsistent with people with spiritual spouses as they remember the whole event. So you see that your sexsomnia hypothesis is dead on arrival. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_sex

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Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by Seun(m): 11:58am On Oct 13, 2016
Sexomnia seems to have little to do with the "spiritual spouse" superstition, but of course this doesn't mean that the superstition is real.
Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by Nobody: 12:07pm On Oct 13, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
My mistake. But this is even easier to refute. Sexomnia is described as a form of NREM parasomnia. ie sufferers have no memory of the acts when they wake up. This is very inconsistent with people with spiritual spouses as they remember the whole event. So you see that your sexsomnia hypothesis is dead on arrival. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_sex

No memory suggests sexsomnia.

Memory suggests it could be a persistent sexual dream.

How exactly do you intend to prove a spirit spouse to me?

Believing in a spirit spouse assumes spirit exist (assumes because so far you have all claimed you can't provide evidence of spirits), assumes they exist in a separate plane (which you also can't prove), assumes they can can leave this plane (but apparently only when their target is sleeping), assumes that once they leave they become physical and can now have sex with a person in this plane. You might notice the key theme here are assumptions, you can call it fact if you wish but fact requires actual evidence and proof.

This is in comparison to the sexomnia theory which is supported by observation, brain scans, psychological studies etc. Essentially the difference between actual science and pseudoscience.

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