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Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by TSOM(m): 10:43pm On Oct 11, 2016
gensteejay:

Interesting comment. Let's see how the so-called 'logical' people will respond to this.

Of course, they'd play blind. Noticed even Hahn skipped it? How convenient! grin
Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by gensteejay(m): 10:49pm On Oct 11, 2016
From the perspective of some atheists on Nairaland, reality is solely based on facts or 'concrete ideas'. How then do they account for intuition or gut feeling (as stated by TSOM earlier) as a scientific concept, regardless of the fact that it is an idea in soft science?

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Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by TSOM(m): 10:50pm On Oct 11, 2016
Ishilove:

If you insist spirit spouses don't exist because you don't have proof, what explanation will you give for those who have personal experiences with these demons?

My dear, you can say these things don't exist because you've never come across those who have them, but it doesn't mean they don't exist. You cannot tell a man like lastchild who has a spirit wife to prove to you he has one because he has nothing to gain by trying to convince you.

Stephenmorris is just one of the many atheists who've built for themselves mansions with slabs of lies on Ignorance Avenue. cheesy


He/they want you to believe ethereal beings are non-existent but they cheer on scientists and organizations who believe in the existence of aliens without proof.

Double standards and hypocrisy? No surprises, it's always been the hallmark of atheism.

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Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by Ishilove: 10:53pm On Oct 11, 2016
TSOM:

Stephenmorris is just one of the many atheists who've built for themselves mansions with slabs of lies on Ignorance Avenue. cheesy


He/they want you to believe ethereal beings are non-existent but they cheer on scientists and organizations who believe in the existence of aliens without proof.

Double standards and hypocrisy? No surprises, it's always been the hallmark of atheism.
Hypocrisy much. grin

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Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by Ishilove: 10:54pm On Oct 11, 2016
gensteejay:
From the perspective of some atheists on Nairaland, reality is solely based on facts or 'concrete ideas'. How then do they account for intuition or gut feeling (as stated by TSOM earlier) as a scientific concept, regardless of the fact that it is an idea in soft science?
Hold on. They're coming with plenty English to spin yarn
Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by TSOM(m): 10:55pm On Oct 11, 2016
gensteejay:
From the perspective of some atheists on Nairaland, reality is solely based on facts or 'concrete ideas'. How then do they account for intuition or gut feeling (as stated by T.SOM earlier) as a scientific concept, regardless of the fact that it is an idea in soft science?

Heck! How do they explain the existence of aliens? Scientists still believe there are intelligent life forms which exist outside our planet.

Oddly and ironically, theism/religion has always asserted that "we are not alone." Other beings exist.

They call them "aliens", we call them "spirits". Yet, they criticize us even though they borrowed and modified the concept from religion. cheesy

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Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by HardMirror(m): 10:56pm On Oct 11, 2016
TSOM:


Surely you've been in a situations where you have odd gut feeling that a loved one is being endangered or harmed. You've not been in communication with the said person for months yet the gut feeling persists. Days later you get a call which informs you that the aforementioned has been harmed. It's called "CLAIRVOYANCE."

Pray, what's the scientific explanation for clairvoyance? Don't even start with immunologic memory 'cause it doesn't apply.

I've got a theism-based explanation for it but, first, let's read yours. smiley
There is nothing supernatural here. Our minds extract memories randomly or from inducements even a smell can make you recall someone. Now to your question. How many memories do u have in a day? How many are relevant?
Is it everyone u remember that something bad happens to?
Coincidences are bound to happen with how haphazard our minds work
Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by iDealWithFools: 10:57pm On Oct 11, 2016
TSOM:


Of course, they'd play blind. Noticed even Hahn skipped it? How convenient! grin
But I won't skip it because I've seen the potent power of our traditional ways, it's even more potent than the christian and moslem way.

This is why these christians and moslems go ahead and flout their own rules cos they know they can get away with it, 'in this life'.
Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by HardMirror(m): 10:59pm On Oct 11, 2016
gensteejay:
From the perspective of some atheists on Nairaland, reality is solely based on facts or 'concrete ideas'. How then do they account for intuition or gut feeling (as stated by TSOM earlier) as a scientific concept, regardless of the fact that it is an idea in soft science?
how many gut feelings are relevant. More like paranoid feelings
Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by iDealWithFools: 11:03pm On Oct 11, 2016
TSOM:

Stephenmorris is just one of the many atheists who've built for themselves mansions with slabs of lies on Ignorance Avenue. cheesy


He/they want you to believe ethereal beings are non-existent but they cheer on scientists and organizations who believe in the existence of aliens without proof.

Double standards and hypocrisy? No surprises, it's always been the hallmark of atheism.
And also christianity and Islam.
Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by HardMirror(m): 11:06pm On Oct 11, 2016
iDealWithFools:
And also christianity and Islam.
Lol
Nice
Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by gensteejay(m): 11:07pm On Oct 11, 2016
HardMirror:
how many gut feelings are relevant. More like paranoid feelings
By your reply, do you mean "intuition" is unscientific in nature? Just give a yes or no.
Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by iDealWithFools: 11:08pm On Oct 11, 2016
HardMirror:
Lol Nice
Why is what I said 'nice?'.

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Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by TSOM(m): 11:08pm On Oct 11, 2016
HardMirror:

There is nothing supernatural here. Our minds extract memories randomly or from inducements even a smell can make you recall someone. Now to your question. How many memories do u have in a day? How many are relevant?
Is it everyone u remember that something bad happens to?
Coincidences are bound to happen with our haphazard our minds work

Have a rethink if you think I'd let off you and the other residents of IgnoranceVILLE easily. I intend to draw you out and expose the lies you trade in. smiley

Trying to be evasive by throwing back the question at me?

Clairvoyance has nothing to do with memories. It's a connection with events which transcends space and happens in real-time. It's not a recollect of saved memories.

Save the semantics , forget about skating on this slippery floor - you'd fall face first. Answer the question. We're all waiting.

If you can't, admit your ignorance and I'd explain it. smiley
Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by hahn(m): 11:10pm On Oct 11, 2016
TSOM:


Surely you've been in a situations where you have odd gut feeling that a loved one is being endangered or harmed. You've not been in communication with the said person for months yet the gut feeling persists. Days later you get a call which informs you that the aforementioned has been harmed. It's called "CLAIRVOYANCE."

Pray, what's the scientific explanation for clairvoyance? Don't even start with immunologic memory 'cause it doesn't apply.

I've got a theism-based explanation for it but, first, let's read yours. smiley

I have never had such an experience though but it does sound similar to spiderman's "spider sense" so we can easily conclude that spiderman is responsible, right?

But what is it's benefit if "having a feeling" doesn't prevent the death of a loved one?
Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by gensteejay(m): 11:13pm On Oct 11, 2016
hahn:


I have never had such an experience though but it does sound similar to spiderman's "spider sense" so we can easily conclude that spiderman is responsible, right?

But what is it's benefit if "having a feeling" doesn't prevent the death of a loved one?
You are begging the question. You have said nothing reasonable.

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Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by TSOM(m): 11:15pm On Oct 11, 2016
HardMirror:
how many gut feelings are relevant. More like paranoid feelings

I'd bring it home. How do you explain the real-time reaction of mum miles away within minutes of her son being shot even with no voice or text communication?

How do you explain that mother-child connection that's almost telepathic even when distanced from each other? smiley

Look HARD in the MIRROR, the truth's about to hit you square in the face.

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Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by HardMirror(m): 11:15pm On Oct 11, 2016
iDealWithFools:
Why is what I said 'nice?'.
it is fair to all parties
Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by HardMirror(m): 11:20pm On Oct 11, 2016
TSOM:


Have a rethink if you think I'd let off you and the other residents of IgnoranceVILLE easily. I intend to draw you out and expose the lies you trade in. smiley

Trying to be evasive by throwing back the question at me?

Clairvoyance has nothing to do with memories. It's a connection with events which transcends space and happens in real-time. It's not a recollect of saved memories.

Save the semantics , forget about skating on this slippery floor - you'd fall face first. Answer the question. We're all waiting.

If you can't, admit your ignorance and I'd explain it. smiley
You've said nothing special. Wonder why u feeling fly?
The mind plays arnd our memories to keep us safe, having the intuition of an impending danger is always based on your memories. As said before, even a smell can stimulate your subconscious

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Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by hahn(m): 11:21pm On Oct 11, 2016
gensteejay:
You are begging the question. You have said nothing reasonable.
Okay
What is your own explanation?
Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by hahn(m): 11:21pm On Oct 11, 2016
gensteejay:
You are begging the question. You have said nothing reasonable.
Okay
What is your own explanation?
Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by iDealWithFools: 11:22pm On Oct 11, 2016
HardMirror:
it is fair to all parties
I see...
Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by HardMirror(m): 11:24pm On Oct 11, 2016
TSOM:


I'd bring it home. How do you explain the real-time reaction of mum miles away within minutes of her son being shot even with no voice or text communication?

How do you explain that mother-child connection that's almost telepathic even when distanced from each other? smiley

Look HARD in the MIRROR, the truth's about to hit you square in the face.
How many of such "mum" intuitions are right?
Out of 50, one coincidentally clicks and we are to jump for joy?
Give me a break. I honestly still don't see what you are excited about.
Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by Image123(m): 11:26pm On Oct 11, 2016
hahn:
Pastorpreneurs will not like this thread. If there is a logical explanation for "spirit husband and spirit wife" what will be the new method of exploiting their gullible members of 10% of their monthly salaries and weekly offerings?

tongue

This eternally gullible idea to filter supernatural from natural. Who determined that "spiritual" problems cannot be treated with medicine? Give some examples of "spiritual" problems?
Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by gensteejay(m): 11:27pm On Oct 11, 2016
HardMirror:

How many of such "mum" intuitions are right?
Out of 50, one coincidentally clicks and we are to jump for joy?
Give me a break. I honestly still don't see what you are excited about.
At least you agree intuition is a scientific concept.

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Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by TSOM(m): 11:33pm On Oct 11, 2016
hahn:


I have never had such an experience though but it does sound similar to spiderman's "spider sense" so we can easily conclude that spiderman is responsible, right?
It's pathetic and embarrassing that you have to resort to spandex-adorning, masked comic book superhero to explain an issue as topical clairvoyance. Then again, it further exposes the wisdom lacking in your arguments.



But what is it's benefit if "having a feeling" doesn't prevent the death of a loved one?
[b]Now we are heading for the home run, for the truth home run.

That's you admitting clairvoyance is real but you CAN'T explain the logic being it? Meaning atheism has no explanation for it but it can't explain it away?
O the many shortcomings of atheism!

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Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by HardMirror(m): 12:13am On Oct 12, 2016
gensteejay:

At least you agree intuition is a scientific concept.
So what is spiritual about intuitions? I have had thousands of intuitions that were wrong. So cos some coincidentally click, I shld believe in spirits?
Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by gensteejay(m): 1:00am On Oct 12, 2016
HardMirror:

So what is spiritual about intuitions? I have had thousands of intuitions that were wrong. So cos some coincidentally click, I shld believe in spirits?
The crux of the matter, IMO, is there are some natural occurrences/phenomena which cannot be described (physically or spiritually or in any other form) based on 'facts' or 'concrete ideas' only.

Intuition is the ability to acquire knowledge without proof, evidence, or conscious reasoning, or without understanding how the knowledge was acquired (Wikipedia).

The existence of spirits can't be denied on the basis that humans cannot see them. If we can't see them now with scientific equipment, that doesn't mean they will remain invisible to us in the future considering the rapid way scientific knowledge advances.

Prior to the 17th century, microorganisms were never observed by biologists using a microscope. But today, this breed of organisms can now be studied in detail under powerful lenses.

Anyone, who claims to be 'logical' and is well-informed about scientific discoveries, should have an open mind when it comes to seeking knowledge. This world is very deep and only people of sound intellect can understand (to a little extent) the nature of its depth.

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Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by HardMirror(m): 2:37am On Oct 12, 2016
Ishilove:
HardMirror, let me warn you for the last time. if you insist on being disgusting and vulgar I will keep reporting you for rule 2 until you are banned.

If you want to be obscene, don't quote me. I won't warn you again. You can be despicable all you want but don't bring that bullshit near me. Do you think rape is something to be joked with? Do you??

You disgust me! I repeat, don't quote me again, you nasty creature.
I just read this post fully, and I laughed real hard.
What do spiritual spouses do? Have sex with your consent? They basically rape their victims. So I repeat, if you or anyone has such experience it is about time you report to the police, someone may be taking advantage of your believe in spirit husband bullshit to ride you. Especially if the experience is as real as you are trying to make us believe here.
Take it or leave it, my advice is very valuable and you wld be shocked that spirit husband is just you being drugged and used.

Or do u think I am fooling arnd here?
I am a realistic man and what I just advised u to do is the realistic thing to do.

If u like take offense, u are the one with the problem not me

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Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by JackBizzle: 2:54am On Oct 12, 2016
HardMirror:

I just read this post fully, and I laughed real hard.
What do spiritual spouses do? Have sex with your consent? They basically rape their victims. So I repeat, if you or anyone has such experience it is about time you report to the police, someone may be taking advantage of your believe in spirit husband bullshit to ride you. Especially if the experience is as real as you are trying to make us believe here.
Take it or leave it, my advice is very valuable and you wld be shocked that spirit husband is just you being drugged and used.

Or do u think I am fooling arnd here?
I am a realistic man and what I just advised u to do is the realistic thing to do.

If u like take offense, u are the one with the problem not me


I honestly think she has a mental problem. A very strong case of elevated cognitive dissonance.

How can one talk seriously on the one hand about succubi (spirit spouses) and then be disgusted by the mention of r.ape? Is that not silliness of the highest order? How does someone not realise that r.ape is the main evil power of spirit spouses, according to the mythology?


I say it and I will continue to say it- the bane of the Nigerian man is arrogance in ignorance. When you tell the typical Nigerian that he or she is wrong, they will curse you and plant their feet in their illogical ideology.

Ishilove represents such people. Educated but still ignorant. Cram and pour education. Regurgitation rather than reasoning. Arrogance in ignorance.

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Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by gensteejay(m): 7:32am On Oct 12, 2016
Some Nairaland atheists here are so bent in showing the world how uncouth and fiendish they are. They try to win baseless arguments, which are a product of their arrogance and myopic attitude, by employing dishonorable tactics. They try to psych their opponents.

But such an attitude is not unexpected from ignorant fools, who have denied the One who gave them life and own their souls. They think by denying natural phenomena (physical or not), their warped logic can have some influence on the existence of such occurrences.

But the thoughts of a fool are only as potent as a cobweb, spun in an empty space and easily blown away by wind.

Arguments can be educative, eye-opening, when intelligent people present their points with logic and reason and without using obscene words unnecessarily. However, when sick minds have started displaying antisocial behavior -- that is characteristic of their condition -- such an argument is rather ignored because engaging in it will then become a waste of time.

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Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by HardMirror(m): 7:35am On Oct 12, 2016
TSOM:


Of course, they'd play blind. Noticed even Hahn skipped it? How convenient! grin
Oga Ade, it has been addressed nothing special or spiritual there. The way our subconscious works it is bound to be on point once a while. I can't count how many times my mum had called me ant told me not to travel and I travel without telling her and nothing happens to me. So get off your high horses and face reality. Sciences answers all things, may not have all the answers now but in science only can we get answers not spiritual mumbo jumbo

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