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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by Oches4me(m): 12:27pm On Oct 16, 2016
If u study John 16 verse 12 u will understand Jesus confirmed prophet Muhammad As prophet Of Almighty Allah, that mankind believe in him.
Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by obasivic: 12:27pm On Oct 16, 2016
Scholar8200:
your excellency, HRH, hear Jesus speak:

15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
John 14:23,24

That, sire, is true love for Jesus!
Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by dnawah(m): 12:27pm On Oct 16, 2016
Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by Alajiki(m): 12:27pm On Oct 16, 2016
Dejiy10:
Jesus told us "I am the way, the truth and the life, no one comes to the father except through me". The end. You can believe Jesus existed and he was a prophet and all that, but believing that he's the son of God, and confessing it with your mouth is the only thing that makes you a Christian, and for us, that's the biggest step, the most important step, to making heaven.

PS: I once saw a video of a man who got converted to Christianity by reading the Quran. Yes, the Quran.

The question is...did Jesus (peace be upon him) found Christianity?

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by DjAduba(m): 12:28pm On Oct 16, 2016
minifuworld:
The Greatest Commandment mark 12: 28. One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?” 29. “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. 30. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength. 31. The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.”
May Allah guide us to His path my brother.

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by mykel25(m): 12:28pm On Oct 16, 2016
ayobase:
For all my muslim friends on here, please bear with me as I unleash some Biblical proofs over some issues:

At least you accept the fact that Jesus Christ came into this world via a virgin Mary which makes a unique being among Prophets.

Can I say He was conceived without sin.

Sonship.

There in the Bible;

Matthew 3:17 says "And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."

Mark: 1:11 says "And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."

Mark: 9:7 says "And there was a cloud that overshadowed them: and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him."

Luke: 3:22. says "And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased."


Those are 3 of the 12 disciples of Jesus Christ giving accounts of what seen and heard while with Jesus Christ - more like news casting.



Tell me you don't believe in those.

Now the Jesus you believe in said this, coupled with written occurences by observers;

John: 10. 30. I and my Father are one.

John: 14. 20. At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

Matthew: 7. 21. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Matthew: 10. 33. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

Matthew: 24. 36. But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

John: 5. 43. I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

And many many more verses to establish fathership and sonship.

My question - why do you find it difficult to accept God calling Jesus Christ His son?

I learnt Mohammed was the Holy Spirit (Comforter) Jesus Christ said He will srnd while ascending into heaven.

John: 14. 26. But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

With sound mind and logical reasoning, how can Muhammad of all Prophets with many scandals be the comforter!

Muhammed did not get an inch close to Jesus Christ to being a Comforter, let alone of being one himself.

Muhammed is con artist, he had ideas of the Bible which he was able to pick and manipulate verses to suit himself. We now have the Sunnis and Shites a result of his unresurrecting death.

Jesus Christ performed miracles while on earth coupled with His merciful disposition.

Muhammed is not close to being Comforter - that hooligan is far away from it.



Until you tell me the Bible has been compromised long before now, then those quoted verses remain valid.


I'm a Christian and I was loving your epistle not until you started fanatical talk about Mohammed.... I don't support that....don't ever disrepute any prophet .....remember d bible says touch not my annoited and do my prophet no harm ...you re not to judge the genuineness of Mohammed as a prophet...thanks

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by serikiYCU(m): 12:29pm On Oct 16, 2016
Anas09:


Amplified Bible John 10:30 I and the Father are One.

What does that mean to you?

Can you tell me why allah snatched Jesus from the Jews and prevented them from killing him?

If you are sincere, you'd find yourself with the answer which was the reason for which the Jews wanted Jesus dead in the first place.

Till today, Islam can't tell us why allah saved Jesus.
The Jews wanted Jesus dead because Jesus claimed he is the Son of God. The Jews umderstood exactly what Christ was saying, for that, they moved to kill him (they knew that, the son of a goat is a goat, so if Jesus says God was his father, He then was invariably saying he was God) then your glorious allah came to his rescue.

Guy, stick to Islam, Christianity ia too hard for your head.
God saved Jesus from being killed the same way He saved Abraham from enemy, Moses from pharaoh, Joseph from his kinsman as well as the Noble prophet Muhammad (peace be upon them) from his enemies too... d list is endless

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by MrKrap(m): 12:29pm On Oct 16, 2016
iLiquidator:
A rule of thumb in Islam is that a Muslim must believe in Jesus. Any Muslim that reject Jesus is not a Muslim. Our difference is that we Muslims believe him to be a prophet born by virgin Mary. He isn't a God.
yes muslims believe in Jesus Christ, yet deny his God-head. to us christians, Jesus Christ is GOD.
take ur taqiyya to anoda place.
Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by ezesun(m): 12:31pm On Oct 16, 2016
Oches4me:
If u study John 16 verse 12 u will understand Jesus confirmed prophet Muhammad As prophet Of Almighty Allah, that mankind believe in him.
JESUS CHRIST THE SON OF GOD! Sorry to say o, you better read from verse 1 and make sure you read HOLY BIBLE....
Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by DjAduba(m): 12:31pm On Oct 16, 2016
Alajiki:


The question is...did Jesus (peace be upon him) found Christianity?
No Sir Xtianity was found by Paul Over 31yrs after Jesus left. He didn't even see the Bible Paul wrote, if am wrong someone shud correct me pls

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by Nobody: 12:31pm On Oct 16, 2016
jnrbayano:


Then you don't know him.

How can you quote the bible selectively? He says he is the only way.

How can you believe in someone without believing all his teachings.?


John 9:5:

John 9:5 While I am in the world, I am the light of the world.


please note the word "WHILE".

Meaning WHILE MOSES WAS IN THIS WORLD, HE WAS THE LIGHT OF THIS WORLD, WHILE ELIJAH OR JOSHUA ETC WERE IN THE WORLD, THEY WERE THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD. IT'S SO PLAIN TO UNDERSTAND. THEN HE ADDED HE WOULD ASK THE FATHER TO SEND ANOTHER TO GUIDE THE PEOPLE. YOU CAN TWIST IT HOW YOU WANT BUT IT REMAINS THE WORDS.

Now there is something that amazes me about Christians and "understanding" the Bible based on the "holy spirit's guidance". How can there be so many people influenced by the same holy spirit and interpreting the Bible differently. Some even say holy spirit asked them to do some plain evils. I know it may be hard to acknowledge the truth but Christians should try.

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by Garshyzee(m): 12:32pm On Oct 16, 2016
See divergent views undecided..watching in 3d cool
Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by ezesun(m): 12:32pm On Oct 16, 2016
mykel25:


I'm a Christian and I was loving your epistle not until you started fanatical talk about Mohammed.... I don't support that....don't ever disrepute any prophet .....remember d bible says touch not my annoited and do my prophet no harm ...you re not to judge the genuineness of Mohammed as a prophet...thanks
Who does that?
Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by ollah2: 12:33pm On Oct 16, 2016
Anas09:

Are you new here? Its either you are a typical muslim who adjudges everything muslims does as right, you wont come out here hypocrically spewing trash. If you are sincere, follow FriendChoice, as a matter of fact, go to his profile and checkout his threads and see what him and you guys say about Jesus.

At least we talk about muhammed, but what do u do? U kill Christians.

Was muhammed anything different from what is said about him here? Proof it.


Shut up. You should be ashamed of urself. This is something new thread and it started pretty well with great minds discussing and respecting each others religion until u and few others derailed it with disses et al.

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by Nobody: 12:36pm On Oct 16, 2016
MrKrap:
yes muslims believe in Jesus Christ, yet deny his God-head. to us christians, Jesus Christ is GOD.
take ur taqiyya to anoda place.

Hindus believe in a Trinity called Trimurti. Taqiyya is a corrupt practice by those who call themselves Shia don't generalize it on all Muslims. Paul was debating with Peter because he was going against what Jesus had taught them so he syncretized Greek beliefs to make it pleasing to the gentiles. His preaching was often parallel to Jewish tradition and teachings of which Jesus himself was a rabbi (a teacher of Jewish law).

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by Shafiiimran99: 12:37pm On Oct 16, 2016
Say (O Muhammad ): "We believe in Allah and in what has been sent down to us, and what was sent down to Ibrahim (Abraham), Isma'il (Ishmael), Ishaque (Isaac), Ya'qub (Jacob) and Al-Asbat [the twelve sons of Ya'qub (Jacob)] and what was given to Musa (Moses), 'Iesa (Jesus) and the Prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between one another among them and to Him (Allah) we have submitted (in Islam)."

And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers. Qur'an 3:84-85

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by Nobody: 12:37pm On Oct 16, 2016
DeHEIGHTS:
Jesus is not Isa.
Reasons :
Jesus is the Son of God, But Isa is not the Son of God according to Qur'an.
Jesus is God, the second Person of the GodHead; But Isa is not God.
God is not Allah, And Allah is not God. God has a Son called Jesus, But Allah has no Son.
Lesson:
Christianity and islam are two different religions, And there's no meeting point. They are opposite and parallel to each other.
You either choose one, And leave the other. There's no meeting point. The faithfuls of the two religions have two different destinations. And they will never see each other again after death.

is the Heaven and earth created by God or Allah...just asking
Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by lekan29ice(m): 12:38pm On Oct 16, 2016
iLiquidator:
A rule of thumb in Islam is that a Muslim must believe in Jesus. Any Muslim that reject Jesus is not a Muslim. Our difference is that we Muslims believe him to be a prophet born by virgin Mary. He isn't a God.
Jazakallahu khairan khairan jazaihi

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by Divinefavour2: 12:38pm On Oct 16, 2016
Sir may God bless u and ur generation for this single actin. This the true understanding of the Almighty God.Emir u are far better than most of our so called men of God and Imans that know the truth but will never mention such to their faithful followers but often teach hate and disunity.Just like the Pope,your highness,you have shown that Muslems and Christains can peacefully co-habit if we have better and this kind of understanding.I am a Christain and I love Muslems and I can even worship with them.God is one, just that religion is different ways of reaching him.The solution to our problem in Nigeria is simple:" if u are a muslem, be a good muslem and follow the good teachings of Islam, which is peace and love.And if u are a christain, be a good christians and follow the good teachings of christianity-which is Love our God ur Father and love ur neighbour as urself.At the end, both Muslems and Christians will arrive at the same point.Let us all in this country stop allowing Religion to divide us.I am proudly Igbo and a christian and I love my brothers from the north and west and all muslems.Once again Emir Sanusi,Change indeed begins with u; may u live long.IJN, Amen.

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by DoctorTim: 12:40pm On Oct 16, 2016
Bunch of brilliant guys talking religion without been abusive. I enjoyed this thread and it was very enlightening. As for the few that tried to reign curses on each other, May God/Allah help you. But to the young brilliant Christians and Muslims whom have argued with facts and respect for each other, May you be blessed for making this an interesting read. So impressed by your words and vast knowledge of the Bible/Quran

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by DjAduba(m): 12:40pm On Oct 16, 2016
MrKrap:
yes muslims believe in Jesus Christ, yet deny his God-head. to us christians, Jesus Christ is GOD.
take ur taqiyya to anoda place.
Oga don't forget that Jesus was held in the belly for 9months and was born of a woman, He belongs to an extended family who disposes His Mother. ( Begin Mary), He eat drink etc. can u worship ur sisters child who was born in ur present? How is He God?

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by intergral(m): 12:43pm On Oct 16, 2016
mustymatic:

[b]
Jesus rebuts the false charge of his enemies that he was ambiguous in his claims to being the Messiah that they were waiting for. He says that he did tell them clearly enough, yet they would not listen to him,

25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and you believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man PLUCK THEM OUT OF MY HAND.
29 My Father which gave them me, is greater than all, and no man is able to PLUCK THEM OUT OF MY FATHER'S HAND.

How can anyone be so blind as not to see the exactness of the ending of the last two verses. But spiritual blinkers are more impervious than physical
defects. He is telling the Jews and recording for posterity, the real unity or relationship between the Father and the son.
The most crucial verse -
30 I and my Father are one.

One in what? In their Omniscience? In their Nature? In their Omnipotence? No! One in purpose! That once a believer has accepted faith, the Messenger sees to it that he remains in faith, and God Almighty also sees to it that he remains in faith. This is the purpose of the "Father" AND the "son" AND the "Holy Ghost" AND of every man AND every woman of faith.

John explain his Gnostic mystic words:

That they all may be ONE; as thou. Father, art in
me, and I in thee, that they also may be ONE in us...
I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made
perfect in ONE . . .
John 17:20-22 [/b]
And according to your own bible God has sons
by the tons, can they all be gods?
Can't you see that in the language of the Jew, every righteous person, every Tom, Dick and Harry who followed the Will and Plan of God, was a SON OF
GOD. It was a metaphorical descriptive term, commonly used among the Jews.

"...Adam, which was the SON OF GOD."
Luke 3:38
"That the SONS OF GOD saw the daughters of men that they were fair...
"And when the SONS OF GOD came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them..."
Genesis 6:2&4
"...Israel is MY SON, even my firstborn:"
Exodus 4:22
"...for I (God) am a FATHER to Israel, and Ephraim is my
firstborn."
Jeremiah 31:9
"...the Lord hath said unto me, (David) Thou art MY SON: this day have I BEGOTTEN thee."
Psalms 2:7
"For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the
SONS OF GOD."
Romans1 8

And lastly for Jesus to die on the cross would have meant the triumph of his executioners; but the Quran asserts that they undoubtedly failed: "Assuredly God will defend those who believe";. He confounds the plots of the enemies of Isah (Jesus)... merciful God.
And yes I'll stick to Islam... Christianity is too hard twisted for every sane person
thank you bro... What i always ask my self is that if Christians will know the Quran the way you know the bible, they wiuld have for long converted to islam... The more they know the more Christianity looks like trash.... Sha it has been said in the Quran... They are more blind than the bat!

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by Bnladan(m): 12:45pm On Oct 16, 2016
eshietIntrepid:
And Jesus loves you so much, if only u will accept him as ur lord and personal saviour, it will be well with ur soul.
The problem is dat He (Jesus christ PBUH) never said I shud take him as my lord. If u re able 2 point out an unambiguous statement in any version of d bible wia He(jesus PBUH) said "I am God" or "Worship me", I will accept christianity. If following d teachings of Jesus PBUH makes one a Christian, den we the Muslims are more Christians dan d Christians themselves. because Jesus said dnt eat pork, we Muslims dnt take pork but d Christians do. Jesus PBUH said dnt take alcohol, d Muslims dnt take alcohol but d Christians do. Many examples lyk dat. I am a Muslim and I love Jesus. Infact I can't be a Muslim if I dnt love nd believe in Jesus. He is d servant and messenger of God. He was born miraculously and will come back @ d end of tym.

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by Omeokachie: 12:47pm On Oct 16, 2016
Leave Jesus out of this and deal with the shiites issue that is closer home. Will you?

A statement condemning the on-going jungle justice wouldnt be out of place.
Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by sammyj: 12:47pm On Oct 16, 2016
The Lord is spelt using Capital L and not small letter l please !!! wink
eshietIntrepid:
And Jesus loves you so much, if only u will accept him as ur lord and personal saviour, it will be well with ur soul.
Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by Armstrong34(m): 12:47pm On Oct 16, 2016
To my Muslims brothers.....
Jesus christ was always referencing the father..
But Philippians 2:5-11 explains it all y jesus always reference the father...
Phillipians 2 vs 5 says let this mind be in you which is in christ jesus
2 vs 6 says who, being in the form of God thought it not robbery to be equal with God....
In conclusion jesus jus wanna be humble and that is why God has highly exalted his name
Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by Iamabod(m): 12:49pm On Oct 16, 2016
carmag:


is the Heaven and earth created by God or Allah...just asking
.

It the same, God in Arabic language is ALLAH, In yoruba Eledumare/olorun.... it just language.... God is the same... each and every tribe, religion just av a way of worshiping him and different name ascribe to HIM
Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by Divinefavour2: 12:49pm On Oct 16, 2016
carmag:


is the Heaven and earth created by God or Allah...just asking

My dear stop allowing language to be a confusion to u.For God and Allah is the same thing.Just same thing said in different language.In Hebrew,He is God Yaweh, in English God,in Igbo Chineke, in Arabic Allah.And I know there is what he is called in ur own language.So we are all referring to one person.The Almighty creator.

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by pwetie: 12:50pm On Oct 16, 2016
Anas09:


Amplified Bible John 10:30 I and the Father are One.

What does that mean to you?

Can you tell me why allah snatched Jesus from the Jews and prevented them from killing him?

If you are sincere, you'd find yourself with the answer which was the reason for which the Jews wanted Jesus dead in the first place.

Till today, Islam can't tell us why allah saved Jesus.
The Jews wanted Jesus dead because Jesus claimed he is the Son of God. The Jews umderstood exactly what Christ was saying, for that, they moved to kill him (they knew that, the son of a goat is a goat, so if Jesus says God was his father, He then was invariably saying he was God) then your glorious allah came to his rescue.

Guy, stick to Islam, Christianity ia too hard for your head.
Jesus, did not die has the Christian claim. Jesus was saved by God from condemnation. From the Quran: God said every soul must taste death. This is one of the reason that will make Jesus comeback to earth towards the end of the world to restore faith and eventually taste death afterwards. Again from "Every soul must taste death"
Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by DjAduba(m): 12:50pm On Oct 16, 2016
intergral:
thank you bro... What i always ask my self is that if Christians will know the Quran the way you know the bible, they wiuld have for long converted to islam... The more they know the more Christianity looks like trash.... Sha it has been said in the Quran... They are more blind than the bat!
It is also stated that no matter how u try to show them the truth they won't accept it, bcus they are blind and lost and cannot see the light.

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Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by Okeikpu(m): 12:51pm On Oct 16, 2016
Funny!
Re: I Am A Muslim But I Love Jesus — Emir Sanusi by adedayor08(m): 12:51pm On Oct 16, 2016
ayobase:
For all my muslim friends on here, please bear with me as I unleash some Biblical proofs over some issues:

At least you accept the fact that Jesus Christ came into this world via a virgin Mary which makes a unique being among Prophets.

Can I say He was conceived without sin.

Sonship.

There in the Bible;

Matthew 3:17 says "And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."

Mark: 1:11 says "And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."

Mark: 9:7 says "And there was a cloud that overshadowed them: and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him."

Luke: 3:22. says "And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased."


Those are 3 of the 12 disciples of Jesus Christ giving accounts of what seen and heard while with Jesus Christ - more like news casting.



Tell me you don't believe in those.

Now the Jesus you believe in said this, coupled with written occurences by observers;

John: 10. 30. I and my Father are one.

John: 14. 20. At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

Matthew: 7. 21. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Matthew: 10. 33. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

Matthew: 24. 36. But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

John: 5. 43. I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

And many many more verses to establish fathership and sonship.

My question - why do you find it difficult to accept God calling Jesus Christ His son?

I learnt Mohammed was the Holy Spirit (Comforter) Jesus Christ said He will srnd while ascending into heaven.

John: 14. 26. But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

With sound mind and logical reasoning, how can Muhammad of all Prophets with many scandals be the comforter!

Muhammed did not get an inch close to Jesus Christ to being a Comforter, let alone of being one himself.

Muhammed is con artist, he had ideas of the Bible which he was able to pick and manipulate verses to suit himself. We now have the Sunnis and Shites a result of his unresurrecting death.

Jesus Christ performed miracles while on earth coupled with His merciful disposition.

Muhammed is not close to being Comforter - that hooligan is far away from it.



Until you tell me the Bible has been compromised long before now, then those quoted verses remain valid.

Sir if the bible say According to John 5:37, Jesus said that no
one had ever seen God at anytime or ever
heard his voice.
then the voice that came from heaven is whose ?

think carefully

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