Exodus 4:21 And the LORD said unto Moses, When thou goest to return into Egypt, see that thou do all those wonders before Pharaoh, which I have put in thine hand: but I will harden his heart, that he shall not let the people go.

Exodus 7:3 And I will harden Pharaoh's heart, and multiply my signs and my wonders in the land of Egypt.

Exodus 7:13 And he hardened Pharaoh's heart, that he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had said.

Exodus 7:14 And the LORD said unto Moses, Pharaoh's heart is hardened, he refuseth to let the people go.

Exodus 7:22 And the magicians of Egypt did so with their enchantments: and Pharaoh's heart was hardened, neither did he hearken unto them; as the LORD had said.

Exodus 8:15 But when Pharaoh saw that there was respite, he hardened his heart, and hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had said.

Exodus 8:19 Then the magicians said unto Pharaoh, This is the finger of God: and Pharaoh's heart was hardened, and he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had said.

Exodus 8:32 And Pharaoh hardened his heart at this time also, neither would he let the people go.

Exodus 9:7 And Pharaoh sent, and, behold, there was not one of the cattle of the Israelites dead. And the heart of Pharaoh was hardened, and he did not let the people go.

Exodus 9:12 And the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh, and he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had spoken unto Moses.

Exodus 9:34 And when Pharaoh saw that the rain and the hail and the thunders were ceased, he sinned yet more, and hardened his heart, he and his servants.

Exodus 9:35 And the heart of Pharaoh was hardened, neither would he let the children of Israel go; as the LORD had spoken by Moses.

Exodus 10:1 And the LORD said unto Moses, Go in unto Pharaoh: for I have hardened his heart, and the heart of his servants, that I might shew these my signs before him:
Exodus 10:20 But the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, so that he would not let the children of Israel go.


These extracts from the bible portray God as one who just wants to show off his might in this instance using Pharaoh as his scape goat. The verses obviously support the fact of his omniscient attribute, but make it seem he just let things happen for his amusement.
If he really cared so much for the Israelites as is claimed, why delay their freedom by "hardening" Pharaoh's heart thus increasing their period of suffering?

Romans 9 vs 15 - end

Romans 9:15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.

9:16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

9:17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, [/b]Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.[b]

9:18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.

The above is from your cited bible verse. All it does is further buttress the point that he seem to be doing it for self glorification. You mean as the almighty God that created everything, people don't already know the extent of his capability so he needed to show them how powerful he is? It makes it sound as if he need our awe to make himself feel powerful. After all he made us and all of our emotions.

Why do you question him? He is Lord of all and can do all.

Aaronsrod:
Why do you question him? He is Lord of all and can do all.

What a sad but predictable answer. How can a loving father not care about the suffering of his children.
The biblical God is a malevolent being, the same one that killed all Egyptian first born sons(innocent children), instead if just killing the pharaoh, his army or just making the whole of Egypt sleep, so Israelites can escape.

"These extracts from the bible portray God as one who just wants to show off his might in this instance using Pharaoh as his scape goat. The verses obviously support the fact of his omniscient attribute, but make it seem he just let things happen for his amusement.
If he really cared so much for the Israelites as is claimed, why delay their freedom by "hardening" Pharaoh's heart thus increasing their period of suffering?"

Will you say that a judge who sent a criminal to jail did it to show his might? Why do you correct your child by punishing him when he goes wrong? Is it for personal amusement? Is it because of hatred? No, it is for love! Same with God.

Daniel1990:
"These extracts from the bible portray God as one who just wants to show off his might in this instance using Pharaoh as his scape goat. The verses obviously support the fact of his omniscient attribute, but make it seem he just let things happen for his amusement.
If he really cared so much for the Israelites as is claimed, why delay their freedom by "hardening" Pharaoh's heart thus increasing their period of suffering?"

Will you say that a judge who sent a criminal to jail did it to show his might? Why do you correct your child by punishing him when he goes wrong? Is it for personal amusement? Is it because of hatred? No, it is for love! Same with God.

Is it because of this same love that he killed the Egyptian children?

Lennycool:

Is it because of this same love that he killed the Egyptian children?

I think he is God which make him differ from you! Once you and him reason at the same level, he is no longer God and you are no longer human!

You will not comprehend his ways! A clay cannot say to the potter I made you rather the potter will say to the clay I made. That is just the way brother!

Daniel1990:


I think he is God which make him differ from you! Once you and him reason at the same level, he is no longer God and you are no longer human!

You will not comprehend his ways! A clay cannot say to the potter I made you rather the potter will say to the clay I made. That is just the way brother!

Wow such beautiful nonsense. What else will you defend in the name of God.

Daniel1990:
"These extracts from the bible portray God as one who just wants to show off his might in this instance using Pharaoh as his scape goat. The verses obviously support the fact of his omniscient attribute, but make it seem he just let things happen for his amusement.
If he really cared so much for the Israelites as is claimed, why delay their freedom by "hardening" Pharaoh's heart thus increasing their period of suffering?"

Will you say that a judge who sent a criminal to jail did it to show his might? Why do you correct your child by punishing him when he goes wrong? Is it for personal amusement? Is it because of hatred? No, it is for love! Same with God.

A judge sending a criminal to jail is doing it within laid down jurisdiction according to human laws. He didn't create the criminal or deliberately made him commit a crime so he could jail him. He doesn't have any control over the criminal's actions in any way. So it is safe to say your comparison of these two cases does not hold much stance. So is your father-child analogy.